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Another Reggie Bust Article

Man this is a message board. It's here for this exact thing. If you want we can just call each other names all day.

We have different opinions... ha thats the beauty of it. I enjoy talking football and expressing my opinion. Is my opinion bias? Hell yea it is, but its the same for you and everyone on this board.

I'll be the first to tell you that as a Titans fan I fear Young, the passer. 51% completion is pathetic for anybody but theres a reason for everything. I believe his stats last year were an effect of a bad supporting cast, as well as his own problems that he seemed to have worked on throughout the summer.

Damn I'm glad football season is back...
 
the wonger need food said:
You consider a 51% passer rating with more INT's than TD's and a passer rating of 66.7 a good year? Not to mention 12 fumbles. I guess you don't look far past ESPN for your NFL football research.

Bruce Gradkowski had almost the same stats. Leinart and Cutler were statistically better than Young.

But don't let your blind love for players get in the way of reality.
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It's kinda hard to have 12 fumbles when the league leader was Andrew Walter with 7.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/statistics?stat=rush&sort=fum&league=nfl&season=2&year=2006

Young had 6.
 
The media is a fickle friend, and after being built up as being the next great thing, it will likely crush him when every media outlet begins turning on him and the only source left that can spin his occasional 9 yard gain as being "tantalizing" is the Saints' official site. I almost feel sorry for him...almost.
 
Yeah, I'll trust the NFL's stats over ESPiN's. The problem is all of these brainwashed people only listen to what ESPN tells them and don't bother to do their own independent research.
 
With all the trash people on this board say about ESPN, I seriously doubt that anybody is brainwashed by their talking heads.
 
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"They is what we thought they is."
 
Bulluck53 said:
It's an excuse but its reasonable. Excuse the company for a second, I'm not trying to group VY with these guys just making a point.

Joe Montana/Steve Young..... Jerry Rice
Peyton Manning.... Marvin Harrison
Troy Aikman...... Michael Irvin
Jim Kelly...... Andre Reed
Dan Marino....... Mark Clayton
Dan Fouts..... Charlie Joyner
Terry bradshaw..... Lynn Swan

Vince Young..... Bobby Wade?

My point is every great QB had his go-to, reliable guy on the outside (in some cases they had two). Give Vince someone that will be consistent, that will grow with him as a player and be his safety net.

To say the supporting cast thing isn't important is kind of funny to me. Barry Sanders, arguably the best running back in history, played on a dismal Detroit team for ten years..... his playoff record during his career? 1-6. A supporting cast is a important to anyone's success in this league.
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I like how you conveniently left Tom Brady off of your list because he destroys your argument, as his supportimg cast prior to this year hasn't had a go-to guy and yet he has been the QB of a 3-time Super Bowl Championship team. The only QB on your list with more SuperBowl wins then him is Terry Bradshaw, and of course Troy Aikman and Joe Montana are tied with Tom Brady as well.
 
the wonger need food said:
You consider a 51% passer rating with more INT's than TD's and a passer rating of 66.7 a good year? Not to mention 12 fumbles. I guess you don't look far past ESPN for your NFL football research.

Bruce Gradkowski had almost the same stats. Leinart and Cutler were statistically better than Young.

But don't let your blind love for players get in the way of reality.
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you would think that someone who watched Carr fail for 5 years would realize that stats dont mean anything. its about winning and moving the chains. Can you deliver a game winning drive in the 4th quarter? can you make the big play on 3rd down when you HAVE to get the 1st down or lose? Vince can and guys with far superior stats and measurables CANT. Please look at the pathetic roster that the Titans have and you should be further impressed by what VY did last year. If he can do it this year, then his value and worth will continue to skyrocket because this year's Titans roster is a joke.

the anti-VY agenda is just laughable by some of you guys. I don't want Vince to succeed because he is in our division, just like Peyton. But anyone who thinks he sucks or had a bad year is just pathetic. I hope its mostly an anti-UT agenda because if some of you actually believe what you type, it just outs you as complete retards when it comes to football.

some of you guys probably still think Carr is better than VY...now that is just pathetic and sad
 
Exithios said:
Reggie is the product of not only a dominant USC lineage but of the sports media as well. I dislike the guy but feel for him as well. This kid was never going to be anything more than a scat back and a slot receiver yet the media put him on a pedistal with a HOF tag before his rookie season even started. It won't be long before Reggie is seen as just another one trick pony.

Here's to hoping Mario will bathe in Reggies spot-light on opening day. :victory:
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I'm more impressed with Owen Daniels than Reggie Bush. Have to admit I wasn't happy when we picked him last year,:redface: but I love the pick now. Great to see our FO doesn't go by hype:yahoo:
 
BattleRedToro said:
I like how you conveniently left Tom Brady off of your list because he destroys your argument, as his supporting cast prior to this year hasn't had a go-to guy and yet he has been the QB of a 3-time Super Bowl Championship team.
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Haha you're exactly right. But I didn't purposely leave him off I was going off of a website (I couldn't remembers all of the receivers names). But you are exactly right, Brady is the exception. I'm just making a point... I'll change it to MOST of the great QB's have/had a go-to guy.
 
Second Honeymoon said:
you would think that someone who watched Carr fail for 5 years would realize that stats dont mean anything. its about winning and moving the chains. Can you deliver a game winning drive in the 4th quarter? can you make the big play on 3rd down when you HAVE to get the 1st down or lose? Vince can and guys with far superior stats and measurables CANT. Please look at the pathetic roster that the Titans have and you should be further impressed by what VY did last year. If he can do it this year, then his value and worth will continue to skyrocket because this year's Titans roster is a joke.

the anti-VY agenda is just laughable by some of you guys. I don't want Vince to succeed because he is in our division, just like Peyton. But anyone who thinks he sucks or had a bad year is just pathetic. I hope its mostly an anti-UT agenda because if some of you actually believe what you type, it just outs you as complete retards when it comes to football.

some of you guys probably still think Carr is better than VY...now that is just pathetic and sad
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I have to do a search, I don't know if anyone (realistically) said Carr was better.
I know I didn't, but I know some of the people you can't win

Carr would have bad stats and we win and people would say "wish we had a QB
Carr would had bad stats and we loss, they'd say ,wish we had a QB

Carr have good stats and we win, it was *pick a name* is the reason why

Carr have good stats and we lose, it was he didn't do enough

I guess we can officially change Carr's name with VY's name with all the arguments and counter arguments
 
Bulluck53 said:
Haha you're exactly right. But I didn't purposely leave him off I was going off of a website (I couldn't remembers all of the receivers names). But you are exactly right, Brady is the exception. I'm just making a point... I'll change it to MOST of the great QB's have/had a go-to guy.
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Brady never had Capers as a head coach ( I have liked Capers as a defensive coordinator not as HC )

Norv Turner will probably prove me wrong this year, but my feelings on Norv is the same as capers ,except switch offense with defense
 
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