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Vick pleads not guilty and other urban legends.

hollywood_texan said:
If you are at famaliar with celeberties, very regularly, they don't make donations directly themselves.

It's their publicists and managers that handle these affairs and orchestrate these events.

To some extent, it's just marketing money so they get bigger endorsements in the future because it promotes their public image.

What is $10,000 relative to Mike Vick and his net worth anyway?
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I covered that.... .007 of 1%
 
Double Barrel said:
So what. The mafia does a lot of charity work, as does Hamas and Hugo Chavez. I guess we should just excuse FEDERAL CRIMES because their hearts are in the right place? Ever hear of smoke screens and mirrors? Maybe Vick's "charity" is more about making an image and selling a product, one that you have happily lapped up like a kitten with milk.
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That's true...good point...
 
swtbound07 said:
hasn't been proven to be a dogfighter.

Only the blind see otherwise.

Your opinion is worthless, bet 10,000 meant a lot to the people it went to help.

"Your opinion is worthless"

Signed,

A clueless Vick fan

Why does he need to go away? nothings been proven?

People like him make the NFL look bad. It will be proven and when it does, you'll be one of the misguided Vick fans whimpering with disgust.
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I'm done with the Vick topic today. Good day
 
xtruroyaltyx said:
It is a Vick thing.
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No, it is a dog fighting thing that just happens to involve a moron who pimped his house out for dog fights...allegedly. As I said before, they conduct stings in their sleep and whomever gets caught up, gets caught up. If there is someone above him, they will go after him. If Vick was the ringleader, then they will get him and everyone under him. I keep hearing callers talk about the Feds just wanting to nail a black athlete and it is ludicrous. He may be the main cog but he isn't why they went after this group. It is a large, multi-state dog fighting ring. I don't care if it is this, porn rings, drug rings, whatever or whomever..get them off the street. I've always liked Vick but that doesn't excuse him for at the least gross negligence.

I'm not dense and I know this puts a face on dog fighting that they can use the "Vick" tag for the future but I also know some guys who do secret service work and do Fed work and they are a different cat and are pretty serious about the case or task itself.
 
HoustonFrog said:
No, it is a dog fighting thing that just happens to involve an ***** who pimped his house out for dog fights...allegedly. As I said before. They conduct stings in their sleep and whomever gets caught up, gets caught up. If there is someone above him, they will go after him. If Vick was the ringleader, then they will get him and everyone under him. I keep hearing callers talk about the Feds just wanting to nail a black athlete and it is ludicrous. He may be the main cog but he isn't why they went after this group. It is a large, multi-state dog fighting ring.
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It is for that reason, that I think the Feds will go the extra mile to have their ducks in a row, and treat this case with kit gloves....
 
swtbound07 said:
Nobody here has 1 percent of all the facts, and he's already nailed to a couple of 2 by 4s.
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I must admit that in terms of Mike Vick I have already:

1. Inserted an IV needle into his forearm and started the saline drip....

2. Shaved his head and attached electrodes to his head and forerm....

3. Put a noose around his neck and a hood over his head....

4. I'd put him in a gas chamber, if I could find one....

But to compare what Mike Vick deserves to the pain and suffering, and persecution endured by our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ is just WRONG.
 
I rally have to laugh at some comments in this thread. Just like I laugh at callers that call into 610 just to say Vick is a good gy and they should just forget about this case and let him play football.

This whole he is guilty until proven innocent bullcrap line is a joke. That means to say that we should not have an opinion one way or another on any case ever presented to the courts. Which is not going to happen.
 
HoustonFrog said:
No, it is a dog fighting thing that just happens to involve an ***** who pimped his house out for dog fights...allegedly. As I said before. They conduct stings in their sleep and whomever gets caught up, gets caught up. If there is someone above him, they will go after him. If Vick was the ringleader, then they will get him and everyone under him. I keep hearing callers talk about the Feds just wanting to nail a black athlete and it is ludicrous. He may be the main cog but he isn't why they went after this group. It is a large, multi-state dog fighting ring.
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If this is a black athelete thing, the Fed's need to saddle up and get after a white athelete doing something similar.

I am all for that, let's clean this up regardless of the ethnicity of the people involved.

They can go black to white sting operations, or vice versa, until we run out of vice versa and keep going when the ethnicity is the same.
 
HoustonFrog said:
No, it is a dog fighting thing that just happens to involve an ***** who pimped his house out for dog fights...allegedly. As I said before. They conduct stings in their sleep and whomever gets caught up, gets caught up. If there is someone above him, they will go after him. If Vick was the ringleader, then they will get him and everyone under him. I keep hearing callers talk about the Feds just wanting to nail a black athlete and it is ludicrous. He may be the main cog but he isn't why they went after this group. It is a large, multi-state dog fighting ring.
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You talk about the Feds like they are robots.....

Just like any other human, emotions and personal beliefs do come into play...

I'm not saying they are going after him because he is Mike Vick...that's stupid...

They are going after him because he broke the law....

But that still doesn't make it out of the realm of possibility that the fact that he is Mike Vick is playing part in how people (yes even the people that work for federal prosecutors) are approaching this case.
 
xtruroyaltyx said:
You talk about the Feds like they are robots.....

Just like any other human, emotions and personal beliefs do come into play...

I'm not saying they are going after him because he is Mike Vick...that's stupid...

They are going after him because he broke the law....

But that still doesn't make it out of the realm of possibility that the fact that he is Mike Vick is playing part in how people (yes even the people that work for federal prosecutors) are approaching this case.
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Sorry, if it came out that way. I'm just looking at it without trying to put any bias into it and am trying to separate what is happening with an investigation and what I hear as a sports fan from people.

You may be right on how they approach this and like I said, they can put a face on dog fighting. I just don't buy that they are trying to put a "black" face or a "football" face on it. I think there are people of all backgrounds that get involved in this stuff. I'm sure they have some feeling towards it within the investigation and as Bill said above, I would think they would even be a little more meticulous knowing what the general public might think. I just didn't hear this outcry when Nate Newton and some other fun, nice guys were nailed for driving trash bags of dope around, etc. I just wanted to point out that the Feds nailed and jailed Ralph Sampson and others and people didn't bat an eye.

Again, I hear ya, I am just trying to separate the two and am looking at it as if we were debating the merits of dog fighting and busting a ring instead. No harm..I hope..lol
 
hollywood_texan said:
If this is a black athelete thing, the Fed's need to saddle up and get after a white athelete doing something similar.
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"PHOENIX -- A federal magistrate judge planned to rule Friday on an application by The Associated Press to have prosecutors reveal the names of players allegedly implicated in drug use by former major league pitcher Jason Grimsley.

During a hearing Thursday at federal court in Phoenix, Major League Baseball Players Association lawyer Ethan Balogh called the AP's attempt to make the names public a "craven search for the sensational and the morbid, nothing more."

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/baseball/325394_steroids27.html

Paging Jason Grimsley, Jason Giambi, Roger Clemens, please report to the nearest Federal Grand Jury....

Do Bonds and Sosa get their own "special" Grand Jury??
 
I would be perfectly happy if his punishment is no jail time....instead, how about some creative sentencing. Put him in a pit with a few of the hungry mistreated pitt bulls. About 6 sounds right. Rub him down with meat and A1 steak sauce. If Vick wins, he can walk. If he loses, then throw him down on the pavement head first a few times. Then, wet him down and hook him up to the car battery. If he somehow manages to survive that, then hang him by his mouth on a tree for a few hours. Then throw him on the rape stand and tie him down for a while some inmates have their way with him. Lastly, throw him in a cage for weeks on end, and don't feed him and neglect him.

Sounds about right to me. :bat:
 
xtruroyaltyx said:
Of course Federal prosecutors are probably some badd azzes themselves, but I just can't see a plea of not guilty if they weren't fairly confident in getting the verdict to swing their way...

Maybe the case isn't as air tight as everyone seems to think...
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Wow, Elle and you need to step away from the keyboard with this logic. The 95% conviction rate comes against people who 100% plead not guilty.

Did you really expect him to take a plea this early in the game and face an instant suspension from the league?

How do you know any plea offered didn't include jail time?
 
infantrycak said:
Wow, Elle and you need to step away from the keyboard with this logic. The 95% conviction rate comes against people who 100% plead not guilty.

Did you really expect him to take a plea this early in the game and face an instant suspension from the league?

How do you know any plea offered didn't include jail time?
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I have never heard of a federal plea in a felony criminal case against an individual that DIDN't involve some terms of confinement.

They make you do at least 10 days in confinement before you start Probation just for "interferring with a flight crew" a/k/a "pissing off the flight attendant"...
 
You guys are lost in your hatred. Anyone criticizing someone for donating money they don't have to is absurdly idiotic & frankly there's nothing else that needs to be said.
 
Mr teX said:
You guys are lost in your hatred. Anyone criticizing someone for donating money they don't have to is absurdly idiotic.......... period.
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I was not criticizing Vick for donating money.

Vick donating money and his indictment are two different independent scenarios. The two should not even be discussed at the same time, much less connected in some train of dots of some type of logic.

Point is, neither one should be impacting the other outcome. Gifts are done with no expectation of something in return. Otherwise, they wouldn't be gifts. Would they?

SWT was putting it out there that since Vick donated money, he should get some type of leyway or something like it.

We are saying no. If you are indicted for a crime, donations or any other good deeds are irrelevant in proceeding with a trial.

I don't see how that is hate.
 
hollywood_texan said:
I was not criticizing Vick for donating money.

Vick donating money and his indictment are two different independent scenarios. The two should not even be discussed at the same time, much less connected in some train of dots of some type of logic.

Point is, neither one should be impacting the other outcome. Gifts are done with no expectation of something in return. Otherwise, they wouldn't be gifts. Would they?

SWT was putting it out there that since Vick donated money, he should get some type of leyway or something like it.

We are saying no. If you are indicted for a crime, donations or any other good deeds are irrelevant in proceeding with a trial.

I don't see how that is hate.
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no, i was saying you guys were calling him scum, and was pointing out things to prove that that isn't so. He's a good guy. He's done good things. I like that his entire name is getting buried in this federal vickhunt
 
swtbound07 said:
no, i was saying you guys were calling him scum, and was pointing out things to prove that that isn't so. He's a good guy. He's done good things. I like that his entire name is getting buried in this federal vickhunt
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Ted Bundy helped little old ladies across the street and donated to the red cross, he is not scum.

Signed

SWT and his bet on the Falcons
 
hollywood_texan said:
I was not criticizing Vick for donating money.

Vick donating money and his indictment are two different independent scenarios. The two should not even be discussed at the same time, much less connected in some train of dots of some type of logic.

Point is, neither one should be impacting the other outcome. Gifts are done with no expectation of something in return. Otherwise, they wouldn't be gifts. Would they?

SWT was putting it out there that since Vick donated money, he should get some type of leyway or something like it.

We are saying no. If you are indicted for a crime, donations or any other good deeds are irrelevant in proceeding with a trial.

I don't see how that is hate.
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Wasn't really aimed at you per se, but you gotta be kidding me if you think stuff like this doesn't come into play during a trial. PETA has brought so much heat to the case that Goodell had to kick the guy out of training camp just so the falcons could practice in peace. Some witnesses are called into a trial exclusively to lend credibililty to the accused. I'm sure his lawyer will mention it at some point to tug on their heart strings a little bit & to loosen them up a bit,but that's not to say it'll work though.
 
Specnatz said:
Ted Bundy helped little old ladies across the street and donated to the red cross, he is not scum.

Signed

SWT and his bet on the Falcons
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yeah, b/c you've lived your life absolutely perfect & you never engaged in anything that might've got you in trouble when you were younger! :sarcasm:
 
Elle said:
He doesn't bet on the Falcons. Please stop using his part-time job as a poker player to attempt a slam. It's very unappealing.
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your wrong on this one elle. I've got a very decent sum of money on the falcons to win this super bowl....they have the facts straight on this one. I admitted it a couple of weeks ago. Aprreciate the sentiment though. It was a lapse in my own personal policy. mea culpa.
 
Elle said:
Why should I walk away from my keyboard because I'm saying that this anger is getting out of hand, we need to wait and see what happens and let's save our community before we have to sign up into 2 groups: Vicks and Non-Vicks?
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My comment was directed solely to the non-logic of arguing a not guilty plea provides any indication of weakness in the government's case.

And you are peeing into the wind if you think people here or elsewhere are not going to take the information available and make judgments and discuss it.
 
Elle said:
Some dirtbag, or manybe more, are reducing their time by turning on Vick. Chances are they had bigger roles than him and will get away with much less. Is that fair?
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When this indictment came down last week, the two practicing attorneys in my family all sat down and discussed it.. Based upon the factual detail in the indictment they were convinced that at least one of the “CW” named is an undercover Federal Agent. The other CW may be “thug snitches” but at least one CW is an Agent.

Where you have an undercover Federal Agent, there is very likely electronic surveillance, wires, etc. I’m sure the superceding indictment will maybe have RICO and money laundering and tax evasion counts. Lots of more “Bad Newz” for the “Dog Boys”

And given that some of Mike’s “Possee” likes to traffic marijuana –there may be a drug trafficking charge added in as well.
Remember Mikes "Magic Water Bottle" that reeked of weed?

Also remember I think it was that fine outstanding citizen “P Funk” that was arrested in 2004 with a pound of marijuana in a pickup truck owned by “sweet, pure, innocent Saint Mike”...

I can just see Mike Vick after the superceding indictment bawling....

"This is all entrapment.. I was set up by the "cracker Feds" and they just want to keep me down because I'm Mike Vick."
 
swtbound07 said:
no, i was saying you guys were calling him scum, and was pointing out things to prove that that isn't so. He's a good guy. He's done good things. I like that his entire name is getting buried in this federal vickhunt
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Elle said:
He doesn't bet on the Falcons. Please stop using his part-time job as a poker player to attempt a slam. It's very unappealing.
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Want to see why SWT is getting "unnecessarily slammed"? Please look at the bolded words above.

Who says he's a good guy? Why is this a Federal Vickhunt? The first asserts that he knows Vick any better than we do, and the second asserts that's the Feds are after HIM and not illegal dogfighting in general.
 
disaacks3 said:
Want to see why SWT is getting "unnecessarily slammed"? Please look at the bolded words above.

Who says he's a good guy? Why is this a Federal Vickhunt? The first asserts that he knows Vick any better than we do, and the second asserts that's the Feds are after HIM and not illegal dogfighting in general.
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I do know him better than you. I am saying he is a good guy. I called it a Vickhunt as a playon words to Witchhunt. Sorry that flew over your head. They aren't after illegal dogfighting in general, they are after Michael Vick.
 
swtbound07 said:
I do know him better than you. I am saying he is a good guy. I called it a Vickhunt as a playon words to Witchhunt. Sorry that flew over your head. They aren't after illegal dogfighting in general, they are after Michael Vick.
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Witchhunt = Hunt for Witches Vickhunt = Hunt for Vick - guess your own analogy is lost on you?

..and you know him better than the rest of us....riiiight! :ok:
 
swtbound07 said:
I do know him better than you. I am saying he is a good guy. I called it a Vickhunt as a playon words to Witchhunt. Sorry that flew over your head. They aren't after illegal dogfighting in general, they are after Michael Vick.
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(Shaking Head) I have no other words that will make you get this. So you are arguing that the Federal Government has been waiting all this time to bring down the super crafty Michael Vick?Sorry, they got the face of dog fighting only because he owned property..which had buildings specifically for dog fighting training..and then investigated. Its the other way around. Come on, I think you are now just trying to throw gasoline on the fire.
 
HoustonFrog said:
(Shaking Head) I have no other words that will make you get this. So you are arguing that the Federal Government has been waiting all this time to bring down the super crafty Michael Vick?Sorry, they got the face of dog fighting only because he owned property..which had buildings specifically for dog fighting training..and then investigated. Its the other way around. Come on, I think you are now just trying to throw gasoline on the fire.
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you will never convince me otherwise. C-O-N-spiracy.
 
I am positively convinced now that SWT doesn't really beleive the ignorant stuff that he's spewing. He's just trying to get a rise out of people just for the sake of it....

It was fun....
 
Texan_Bill said:
I am positively convinced now that SWT doesn't really beleive the ignorant stuff that he's spewing. He's just trying to get a rise out of people just for the sake of it....

It was fun....
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i believe it. If this ship goes down, I go down with it.
 
swtbound07 said:
i believe it. If this ship goes down, I go down with it.
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Come on SWT. I know you too well. I don't think you really believe half the **** you spew. You've admitted as much to me personally before. Come on, now. Admit it. You're just the resident pot stirrer, trying to get under people's skin. If you actually do believe the **** you spew, you are in serious need of immediate help. :pirate:
 
Mr teX said:
You guys are lost in your hatred. Anyone criticizing someone for donating money they don't have to is absurdly idiotic & frankly there's nothing else that needs to be said.
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What is truly idiotic is justifying animal cruelty because someone gave to a charity.

But you're a dog hater, so I'm not sure why I even bother to respond. You will never get it.

swtbound07 said:
I do know him better than you.
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Prove it.

I think you are 'acting' delusional because of a personal agenda, not because you actually hold Mike Vick up to be your hero.

swtbound07 said:
If this ship goes down, I go down with it.
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I honestly don't get it, swt. Why such an emotional attachment to an entertainer?

If it's personal and you don't want to talk about it, I understand and respect your position.

I'm just trying to figure out the logic behind your devotion.
 
Mr teX said:
yeah, b/c you've lived your life absolutely perfect & you never engaged in anything that might've got you in trouble when you were younger! :sarcasm:
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A good tax accountant should have a sliding chart that tells them what to donate. Ever notice donations usually do not come in until the end of the year usually? It is because there tax guy tells them make the donations before the end of the year and make it for this amount to have the smallest amount of tax liability.
 
Double Barrel said:
What is truly idiotic is justifying animal cruelty because someone gave to a charity.

But you're a dog hater, so I'm not sure why I even bother to respond. You will never get it.



Prove it.

I think you are 'acting' delusional because of a personal agenda, not because you actually hold Mike Vick up to be your hero.



I honestly don't get it, swt. Why such an emotional attachment to an entertainer?

If it's personal and you don't want to talk about it, I understand and respect your position.

I'm just trying to figure out the logic behind your devotion.
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I know Marcus personally, have met him a couple of times and found him to be a really nice guy. Vick has been my favorite player for a long time. I was in Atlanta at a draft party when he was taken, own 4 of his jerseys, and have watched almost every game he plays. To me he embodies everything a quarterback should be, and nothing that any other quarterback pre-vince could do. I'm not going to sit here and watch an idol of mine be destroyed over something as stupid as dogfighting.
 
swtbound07 said:
I know Marcus personally, have met him a couple of times and found him to be a really nice guy. Vick has been my favorite player for a long time. I was in Atlanta at a draft party when he was taken, own 4 of his jerseys, and have watched almost every game he plays. To me he embodies everything a quarterback should be, and nothing that any other quarterback pre-vince could do. I'm not going to sit here and watch an idol of mine be destroyed over something as stupid as dogfighting.
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Hello children, today's word is TROLL. As in, don't feed the troll.

:troll:
 
swtbound07 said:
I know Marcus personally, have met him a couple of times and found him to be a really nice guy. Vick has been my favorite player for a long time. I was in Atlanta at a draft party when he was taken, own 4 of his jerseys, and have watched almost every game he plays. To me he embodies everything a quarterback should be, and nothing that any other quarterback pre-vince could do. I'm not going to sit here and watch an idol of mine be destroyed over something as stupid as dogfighting.
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That's cool, man. Thanks for sharing the details, because it sheds some light on your devotion to defending the guy.

Although I do find it strange that a self-professed "liberal" would be so callused about animal cruelty, but I guess it takes all kinds in this big world of ours.
 
infantrycak said:
LOL--yeah, I am best buds with about 25 of the Texans because I met them at the All Access party.


And that pretty much sums it up. Idol worship over reality.
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My ex-girlfriend used to go to Hampton, up in virginia....her and her friends used to party with marcus and his friends, and I went up there a couple of times to see her and hung out with him. Im not in his inner circle or anything, but we've hung out and he's a nice guy.
 
Michael Vick:
1. Current situation
2. Water bottle incident
3. Flipping the bird at fans
4. Herpes / Ron Mexico incident...

I guess he is a good person compared to his little brother Marcus:

2002-2003
While Vick arrived at Tech with great fanfare, he did not in fact play as a true freshman. Beamer redshirted him, and he was a member of the dress squad for every game. During his freshman year, he ran a 4.48 forty and posted a 36-inch vertical jump during spring max testing. Vick threw five touchdown (TD) passes during spring scrimmages and added another in the Maroon-White game. He was 6-for-7 passing for 95 yards and one TD during one scrimmage, and turned in a 57-yard run in another scrimmage. He hit 10-of-15 passes for 92 yards and a TD in the Maroon-White game. Earned the Paul Torgersen Award for the top offensive newcomer.

In 2003, Vick played in eleven games, splitting time with Bryan Randall. The highlight of Vick's season came during a 31-7 upset win over #2 Miami. Despite completing only one pass, Vick's exceptional running ability and the outstanding play of Tech's defense contributed to one of the biggest wins in Tech's history. In Virginia Tech's loss in the Insight Bowl to the California Golden Bears, Vick racked up 82 receiving yards, including one touchdown reception. [3]


[edit] 2004: suspension for multiple unlawful incidents
Prior to the 2004 collegiate season, Vick was arrested and ultimately convicted for providing alcohol to three underage girls who "claimed" to be college students. In a subsequent incident, Vick was charged with reckless driving and possession of marijuana. He was suspended from the university for the fall semester of 2004. [4]


[edit] 2004: conditional reinstatement
Vick was reinstated to the school and the football team under specific guidelines that warranted immediate dismissal from the team for further transgressions.


[edit] 2005: strong playing, more incidents
Head coach Frank Beamer initially announced that Vick would enter the 2005 season as the team's third-string quarterback, but he quickly won the starting role after impressive spring practices and scrimmages. All in all, it was Vick's most successful season which saw the Hokies contending for a national championship and culminating in an impressive 11-2 record, an ACC Coastal Division title, an appearance in the inaugural ACC Championship Game in the 2005 season, and a win in the 2006 Gator Bowl.

The 2005 season, however, saw more controversy surrounding Vick. On October 1, 2005, Vick angered fans and press in Morgantown, West Virginia with a display of his middle finger to the crowd during the game at West Virginia University. Vick later apologized and made no further comments. He also was pushed into a West Virginia University assistant coach while coming back onto the playing field after being run out of bounds. This incident was caught on film and played on ESPN later.

During the 2006 Gator Bowl on January 2, 2006, Vick once again courted controversy when he violently stomped on the leg of University of Louisville defensive end Elvis Dumervil with his foot. Following the game Vick claimed the incident was accidental and asserted he apologized to Dumervil after the game. However, Dumervil and Louisville coaches all said that Vick didn't even talk to Dumervil after the game. Virginia Tech Athletic Director Jim Weaver issued a statement from the university on the incident:

“ The unsportsmanlike conduct of quarterback Marcus Vick in yesterday's Gator Bowl game against Louisville is unacceptable behavior and contrary to the Hokies Respect Campaign. Such on-field action is not reflective of Virginia Tech football nor of the values we hold at Virginia Tech. I and my colleagues in central administration are embarrassed and this athletic administration will not condone such acts of unsportsmanlike conduct. We will review and assess this incident further and deal with it accordingly. ”


[edit] Additional traffic arrests
Vick had lost his privilege to drive a motor vehicle in Virginia as the result of multiple traffic convictions, including reckless driving. On December 17, 2005, he was charged in Hampton, Virginia with speeding, and for the second time, with the more serious misdemeanor charge of driving on a suspended or revoked license. [5],


[edit] Dismissal from Virginia Tech
In 24 career games at Virginia Tech, Vick threw for 2,868 yards, 19 touchdowns and 15 interceptions while also running 184 times for 492 yards and six touchdowns. However, during the same period, he was charged with nine traffic offenses, as well as convictions for possession of marijuana and contributing to the delinquency of a minor.

On January 6, 2006, Virginia Tech announced his permanent dismissal from its football program "due to a cumulative effect of legal infractions and unsportsmanlike play."[6]

In response to being thrown off the team, Vick has been quoted as saying, "It's not a big deal. I'll just move on to the next level, baby."[7]


[edit] More non-driving legal troubles
With three days of expulsion from Virginia Tech, Marcus Vick became involved in another incident resulting in criminal charges, this time back home in Hampton Roads. The result in court was yet another misdemeanor conviction, but only suspended jail time. He also subsequently became the target of a civil lawsuit which had not been resolved as of June 8, 2007.


[edit] Criminal charges, conviction in Suffolk, Virginia

Marcus Vick's mugshot in Suffolk, VirginiaOn January 9, 2006, he was charged with three counts of brandishing a firearm, a Class One misdemeanor [8] [9], in Suffolk, Virginia. A police report stated that he allegedly pointed a gun at a 17-year-old and at least two of his friends in the parking lot of a McDonald's restaurant in the 6200 block of Town Point Road in Suffolk. It has been reported that Vick approached the group of teenagers after his girlfriend told him that someone from the group had made disparaging remarks towards her. [10] Vick claimed that the "gun" in question was actually a BlackBerry cell phone that was mistaken for a gun and that his accusers were trying to blackmail him. [11] Marcus Vick was convicted and received a six month suspended sentence for this incident. [12]

[edit] Civil lawsuit, fraud and sex with minor
On December 14, 2006, a 17-year old girl from Montgomery County, Virginia, filed a civil lawsuit against Marcus Vick accusing him of sexual battery upon a minor, fraud, and additional charges. In the lawsuit, seeking $6.3 million, an unnamed girl claims that when she was 15 (below the legal age of consent in Virginia) and was student in high school, she engaged in a sexual relationship with Vick, who was 20 years old, over a nearly two year long period. She also alleges Vick offered to provide her alcohol and marijuana and asked her to have sex with other men.[13] [14] It is not known whether any criminal charges were filed in connection with these alleged incidents.
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Fine, fine people..... :rolleyes:
 
Blazing Arrow said:
A troll with 4600+ post is quite a troll. I thought I was a heavy troller and I am less then 400.
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You should take lessons. swt is a professional pot stirrer. :shades:

Texan_Bill said:
Michael Vick:
1. Current situation
2. Water bottle incident
3. Flipping the bird at fans
4. Herpes / Ron Mexico incident...

I guess he is a good person compared to his little brother Marcus:

Fine, fine people..... :rolleyes:
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yeah, but Marcus bought cases of Girl Scout cookies every year, so I really don't know what all the media hoopla is about. :howdy:
 
Double Barrel said:
You should take lessons. swt is a professional pot stirrer. :shades:



yeah, but Marcus bought cases of Girl Scout cookies every year, so I really don't know what all the media hoopla is about. :howdy:
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Very nice... I guess when its all said and done the Vicks will be considered the Philanthropists of the century...
 
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