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whodknee said:
I expect his will happen. But without the 2. Denver is also a trade option
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Depending on who was drafted, I'd be more than ok with spending 1.25 and a 3rd next year to trade up. It's pick 58 plus the third next year that bothers me, especially since its for only 4 spots
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
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JB said:
WTH did they have them committing that gross incompetence for?
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7-Round 2025 NFL Mock Draft With Trades: Shedeur Sanders Replaces Derek Carr, Steelers Land Surprise QB | PFSN

In this 2025 NFL Mock Draft, four quarterbacks go in Round 1, while Ashton Jeanty, Tyler Warren, and Tetairoa McMillan lead the playmakers.
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21) Houston Texans (via PIT)
Kelvin Banks Jr., OL, Texas
Projected Trade: Texans receive 21st pick; Steelers receive 25th pick, 58th pick, HOU 2026 3rd

Non-QB trades do happen in the NFL Draft, and this is a scenario where one could occur in 2025. Banks has fallen out of the top 20, and the Houston Texans might not want to risk losing a talented local prospect at a position of need to Los Angeles, Green Bay, or Minnesota.

Houston could use an experienced, traits-rich blocker who projects well at both tackle and guard, and that’s what Banks brings to the table. Leverage maintenance can be an issue at times with his build, but he’s explosive and rangy in space, and a mauler in both phases.
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JB said:
I like the pick, but not at that price.Pittsburgh would have to include a player such as Darnell Washington
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If the Texans were willing to put 2.58 on the table, they could make it up to 1.15. The Falcons are said to be looking to move down for extra picks.

The Steelers don't have a 2nd round pick, traded in the Metcalf deal. A pick swap of 1.21 + 3.83 for 1.25 & 2.58 would still be an overpay. But not nearly as outrageous.
 
TheRealJoker V2 said:
One scenario I am playing with is doubling up on a position of need. Texans have done this before (2023 draft WR, DE and OL double dip). 2024 they took two OL but I don’t really count the 7th rounder.

The Green Bay Packers notably double dipped on the position 2022/2023 to revamp their WR corps. 2023 they double dipped on both WR/TE.

One scenario I am looking at for my final mock is taking Emeka Egbuka at 25 and Elic Ayomanor at 79. Ayomanor needs development but has excellent traits and physical profile.

Both Egbuka and Ayomanor are 4.4 guys who are tough, physical run blockers. Egbuka plays outside while Kirk mans the slot year 1.

Ayomanor takes Hutchinson’s roster spot and contributes on ST and sprinkled in on offense year 1.

Then hopefully you’re confident that Ayomanor can take over outside duties full time year 2 while Egbuka moves to slot in Kirk’s spot.

Kirk is a rental, maybe you get a comp pick for him but after the resurgent all pro season he’ll have you wont be able to afford him with CJ/WA contracts coming ;)

This move also addresses long term roster construction with WR contracts blowing up. Get two core weapons for CJ on a rookie contract, revamp the room. Swarm types like Nico :)
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I agree on doubling up at need and why I have been posting two wide receivers and two offensive linemen for quite a while. We are actually in really good place with four pics in top 89. If we just remain with those, Nick should bring in some really good players.
 
I just read PFF’s current 7 round Mock.

RD1-058: LT- Josh Simmons (Ohio State)
RD2-058: RB- TreyVeon Henderson (Ohio State)
RD3-079: **TRADE** WR- Tyreek Hill to Houston for PK79.
RD3-089: LB- Chris Paul (Ole Miss)

I’d really like to see a true Houston fan doing the Mock. Everyone keeps Mocking an injured Simmons to the Texans instead of going to their favorite team.
 
One thing is certain, with trader Nick stay close to your TV or radio at all times.

Nick has pulled off 18 draft trades in 4 years. His most prolific year was 23 with a staggering 8 trades. Even in his quiet years, he’s pulled off 3 trades.

13 of the 18 trades have been move ups. 5 times he’s traded down.

Philly and Arizona have been his teams he most likes to trade with.

Taken altogether, I think it’s more likely than not that the first pick is somwhere other than 25.

And given the history, I think it’s more likely up than down. I think he is making contingency deals as we speak. If certain things happen, the deal is already in place as the clock plays a huge role and time is limited.

Last thought and strictly a guess. I think he only moves up for Banks or Booker and only if one falls into the low 20’s. If they are gone early…its more likely a stick and pick or even a move down the board.
 
OptimisticTexan said:
I just read PFF’s current 7 round Mock.

RD1-058: LT- Josh Simmons (Ohio State)
RD2-058: RB- TreyVeon Henderson (Ohio State)
RD3-079: **TRADE** WR- Tyreek Hill to Houston for PK79.
RD3-089: LB- Chris Paul (Ole Miss)

I’d really like to see a true Houston fan doing the Mock. Everyone keeps Mocking an injured Simmons to the Texans instead of going to their favorite team.
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Part of me is very scared that Simmons keeps getting mocked to Houston because the people doing the mocks are hearing whispers through the grapevine about Simmons to Houston
 
OptimisticTexan said:
I just read PFF’s current 7 round Mock.

RD1-058: LT- Josh Simmons (Ohio State)
RD2-058: RB- TreyVeon Henderson (Ohio State)
RD3-079: **TRADE** WR- Tyreek Hill to Houston for PK79.
RD3-089: LB- Chris Paul (Ole Miss)

I’d really like to see a true Houston fan doing the Mock. Everyone keeps Mocking an injured Simmons to the Texans instead of going to their favorite team.
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Would love to see Jared Wilson C - come to us at #89 !
 
Porky said:
One thing is certain, with trader Nick stay close to your TV or radio at all times.

Nick has pulled off 18 draft trades in 4 years. His most prolific year was 23 with a staggering 8 trades. Even in his quiet years, he’s pulled off 3 trades.

13 of the 18 trades have been move ups. 5 times he’s traded down.

Philly and Arizona have been his teams he most likes to trade with.

Taken altogether, I think it’s more likely than not that the first pick is somwhere other than 25.

And given the history, I think it’s more likely up than down. I think he is making contingency deals as we speak. If certain things happen, the deal is already in place as the clock plays a huge role and time is limited.

Last thought and strictly a guess. I think he only moves up for Banks or Booker and only if one falls into the low 20’s. If they are gone early…its more likely a stick and pick or even a move down the board.
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I'm seeing this morning, of the WR trio of Golden, Burden and Egbuka, at least one, maybe two, will be there at 25. I'm also seeing a growing consensus that Jackson's draft position may possibly be the top half of the 2nd round, the 40's.

Trading a 2026 2nd and 58, would put us near the top of the 2nd.

We could get us our TE, maybe Taylor, in the 3rd, or Gunnar Helm. That would leave our second 3rd'er available for RB, or my preference, OT Charles Grant.
 
Number19 said:
I'm seeing this morning, of the WR trio of Golden, Burden and Egbuka, at least one, maybe two, will be there at 25. I'm also seeing a growing consensus that Jackson's draft position may possibly be the top half of the 2nd round, the 40's.

Trading a 2026 2nd and 58, would put us near the top of the 2nd.

We could get us our TE, maybe Taylor, in the 3rd, or Gunnar Helm. That would leave our second 3rd'er available for RB, or my preference, OT Charles Grant.
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This is what I'm looking at and although Taylor will probably be gone, I'm on the Terrance Ferguson at 3-79 train.
 
steelbtexan said:
This is what I'm looking at and although Taylor will probably be gone, I'm on the Terrance Ferguson at 3-79 train.
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I agree Taylor will require another trade up. Helm has the edge as an inline blocker; Ferguson as a receiver. Both will possibly be there at 79, without the need for another trade. I'm liking the way this draft is shaping up to give us a solid day 1 and day 2.
 
Number19 said:
I agree Taylor will require another trade up. Helm has the edge as an inline blocker; Ferguson as a receiver. Both will possibly be there at 79, without the need for another trade. I'm liking the way this draft is shaping up to give us a solid day 1 and day 2.
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Ferguson is the better blocker IMHO
 
Errant Hothy said:
Part of me is very scared that Simmons keeps getting mocked to Houston because the people doing the mocks are hearing whispers through the grapevine about Simmons to Houston
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As I posted a long time ago, I can see Nick and Ryans deciding to take Simmons with the idea that he can sit and learn and occasionally play behind Robinson. I can see them thinking that Derek Stingley could be a role model for Josh Simmons.

If many are thinking that Conerly and Grant can sit and learn for a year then why not Josh Simmons?
 
Number19 said:
I'm seeing this morning, of the WR trio of Golden, Burden and Egbuka, at least one, maybe two, will be there at 25. I'm also seeing a growing consensus that Jackson's draft position may possibly be the top half of the 2nd round, the 40's.

Trading a 2026 2nd and 58, would put us near the top of the 2nd.

We could get us our TE, maybe Taylor, in the 3rd, or Gunnar Helm. That would leave our second 3rd'er available for RB, or my preference, OT Charles Grant.
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I believe I posted a mock from someone with Donovan Jackson being available at 2.50. That would be hard to ignore.
 
badboy said:
As I posted a long time ago, I can see Nick and Ryans deciding to take Simmons with the idea that he can sit and learn and occasionally play behind Robinson. I can see them thinking that Derek Stingley could be a role model for Josh Simmons.

If many are thinking that Conerly and Grant can sit and learn for a year then why not Josh Simmons?
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My fear has little to do with his ability, and nearly everything to do with the injury. I've got no problems with any draft pick learning for most of his rookie season.
 
zshawn10 said:
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If, Banks is there. Maybe. If, and a big if, the plan was to have him at LT. At LG? I think Jackson in the 2nd round may be a better way to go. Graded as a guard, Banks is not that much better, if any at all, to Jackson. Banks' higher grade is his athleticism, especially as a LT. Jackson grades out higher, as a guard, with his strength, his anchor ability and, surprisingly, his hand technique.
 
Number19 said:
Graded as a guard, Banks is not that much better, if any at all, to Jackson. Banks' higher grade is his athleticism, especially as a LT. Jackson grades out higher, as a guard, with his strength, his anchor ability and, surprisingly, his hand technique.
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Not what I've been seeing in scouting reports. They are saying Banks can be a good LT or an all-pro LG
 
JB said:
Not what I've been seeing in scouting reports. They are saying Banks can be a good LT or an all-pro LG
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Yes, I've seen that also. Just maybe this implies Jackson's ceiling may be All-Pro as well.

I kind of wish there were more reports than the one I know of, that broke down the various components of a positions game and graded prospects on these.

The one I know of graded Banks as an OT and graded Jackson as an OG, so one has to read between the lines for those components which are the same, but even then, like with hand technique, the two positions may be graded differently. In this example Banks was graded 7/10 as an OT. Jackson 8/10 as an OG.

But Banks will be drafted in the 1st. Jackson will likely fall to the top of the 2nd.
 
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1-25. Tyler Booker, G, Alabama

The first choice on the Texans’ draft board was offensive tackle Kelvin Banks Jr., who a source confirmed is well-liked by the team’s staff. And if he’s on the board at No. 25, I think the Texans take him.

2-39. Josh Conerly Jr., OT, Oregon — Mock trade: Texans send No. 58 and a 2026 second-round pick to the Chicago Bears for No. 39.

I’ve also heard the Texans like Conerly and likely wouldn’t have a problem taking him at No. 25 if the board fell that way. He’s considered one of the top offensive tackles in this draft class.

Ohio State’s Donovan Jackson is an option here, too.

One league source told me the Texans like Jackson, a Houston native, and have done a lot of research on him. He took a top-30 visit with the team just last week. He also previously played with Stroud. And I don’t think Houston would have a problem doubling down on guards.

But Jackson is viewed as a early second-round pick, while Conerly could go in the first. If both are on the board, it makes more sense to take Conerly.

3-79. Alfred Collins, DT, Texas
4-89. Cameron Skattebo, RB, Arizona State
6-195. Mitchell Evans, TE, Notre Dame — Mock trade: Texans send No. 166 to Los Angeles Rams for Nos. 195 and 202.
6-202. Tim Smith, DT, Alabama
7-236. Antwane Wells Jr., WR, Ole Miss
7-241. Dante Trader Jr., S, Maryland
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• Speaking of linemen, we have another team that has at least started sniffing around on a trade up, and that’s the Houston Texans. It’s no secret that Houston needs offensive line help, and I’d expect the Texans to target strong-character players as they continue to remake that room.

With the possibility that Campbell, Membou and Banks are all gone inside the top 10, the next group of linemen could get moved up the board a bit. And the Texans have two teams in front of them, the Green Bay Packers and the Minnesota Vikings, that could take an offensive lineman.

Thanks to the Laremy Tunsil trade, the Texans do have three picks on Day 2 (Nos. 58, 79 and 89) to work with, though they’re without fourth- and sixth-rounders.

I could see where that sets up for a short move up, potentially to try to land someone like Zabel; or, if they’re feeling froggy and include 2026 picks, maybe a more significant move up for Banks. One player I’ve heard the Texans have done plenty of work on is Jackson. Again, right now, this is just sniffing around. But it’s notable because there aren’t a lot of teams looking to climb in the draft order this year, and Houston has a pretty specific reason to at least explore doing it.
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CBS channel 11 sports extra with Cody Stoots and Landry Locker now saying that the Texans have a short board of players they are interested in. That's surprises me. Then again, in 2024 draft Nick knew what he wanted and went after them. They also mentioned that the Texans were willing to select Bullock where they did Fisher but decided that Bullock would be available later. That is working the other team's board as well as yours!
Their "want" was Banks but agreed probably will not be available.
WR Egbuka seem to be second choice and Josh Conerly and Donovan Jackson were not on the list.
 
badboy said:
CBS channel 11 sports extra with Cody Stoots and Landry Locker now saying that the Texans have a short board of players they are interested in. That's surprises me. Then again, in 2024 draft Nick knew what he wanted and went after them. They also mentioned that the Texans were willing to select Bullock where they did Fisher but decided that Bullock would be available later. That is working the other team's board as well as yours!
Their "want" was Banks but agreed probably will not be available.
WR Egbuka seem to be second choice and Josh Conerly and Donovan Jackson were not on the list.
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I have a hard time believing that Jackson and Conerly are not on the list
 
Lucky said:
I can see the Texans liking these players. I just can't see the Texans not adding a WR by the end of day 2. I think the Steelers will be looking to trade George Pickens, but they will be looking for pick(s) in this draft. And I'm not sure if Pickens is a SWARM player. Got to find WR help in the draft.
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Seems like almost everyone thinks Houston can get a wide receiver or two round three or later.
 
badboy said:
Seems like almost everyone thinks Houston can get a wide receiver or two round three or later.
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This my opinion, but I see about a dozen WRs in this draft that can become at least WR3. And by WR3, I mean can average 3 receptions for 40 yards/game. If an injury to a WR1 or WR2 occurs later in the season, they may be able to bump that up to 5 catches for 65 yards.

Having said that, there will be WRs found on day 3 that might become productive as rookies.

Tai Felton, Maryland - Felton improved over each of his 4 years at Maryland, cumulating in an All Big 10 senior year. Showed versatility as he played all across the formation. Felton is lanky (180ish lbs) but was a key contributor on special teams coverage units. And that's what will make Felton active on game days and give him the opportunity to get snaps on offense. That will be a reoccurring theme here.

Nick Nash, San Jose State - Nash led the nation in receptions, yards/catch, and TD receptions in his 7th year at SJS. His initial 4 seasons was as a QB, Nash switched to WR in year 5 and became an All American in year 7. A below average tester, Nash operates out of the slot at 6'3 200 lbs to create mismatches. Will be age 26 during his 1st pro training camp. But I feel that his maturity will help him get on the field sooner than younger WRs.

Ricky White, UNLV - A Michigan state transfer, White was very productive in his 3 seasons in Vegas (218 catches, 3143 yards, 23 TDs). Played all across the formation, but may be best suited in the slot due to his thin frame (6'1" 180 lbs). Did not test well at the combine (4.61 40) but improved to 4.50 on pro day, which matches his play on tape. Mountain West special teams POY with 4 blocked punts in 2024. The more you can do, the more chances you'll get.

Jordan Watkins, Mississippi - Did not see a lot of targets at Louisville, and transferred after his 2nd year. Became a steady contributor with the Rebels, playing mainly out of the slot. Watkins production took a big step up after #1 WR Tre Harris went down with an injury. Averaged over 18 ypc and led the SEC in TD receptions in 2024. Watkins has home run speed (4.37) and can take the top off the defense. Not big (5'11" 190 lbs) but strong for his size. Has experience as punt returner, with a TD in 2023. I think the draft gurus may be sleeping on Watkins, but I'm listing him as a Day 3 pick right now.

Ja'Corey Brooks, Louisville - Brooks was a 5 star recruit in Alabama's 2021 class. During his sophmore year, Brooks became one of Bryce Young's favorite targets (6 TDs over the last 8 games). A shoulder injury wiped out Brooks 2023 season, and he moved on to Louisville for 2024. Brooks quickly became QB Tyler Shough's #1 target, and collected 5 games with over 100 receiving yards. A lanky 6'2" 185 lbs, Brooks is best served on the outside. Brooks did not run at the combine and had a poor 4.65 at his pro day. That number does not matchup with Brooks play, as he routinely gets on top of his coverage and was 3rd inthe FBS in 20+ yard catches last season. Injury perhaps? Brooks has some experience as a kick and punt returner. But he shines on the punt teams with 3 punt blocks during his time at Bama.
 
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Sports Illustrated’s Albert Breer reports the Texans have “started sniffing around on a trade up” for an offensive lineman.
After dealing Laremy Tunsil to the Commanders, the Texans have an extra third-round pick this year and an extra second-round pick in 2026 to maneuver their way around the draft board. Nick Caserio is no stranger to trading up — Will Anderson Jr. is only his most famous strike as he’s also paid up for the picks to select players like Nico Collins and John Metchie — so this would not at all be surprising from a need and talent perspective. Particularly if Caserio sees a huge tier drop on his preferred linemen in the teens.

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