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Round 1 trade up candidates would be OT Banks and Conerly. I think he would stick and pick if his target is an interior OL like Jackson, Zabel or *nervous gasp* Booker. But value of the OT position and both targets ability to kick inside year one would make them worth a moderate trade up (3-5 picks or so to leapfrog other teams targeting).

Round 2 trade up would be to lock in the WR they want to develop opposite Nico or Caley’s future TE1.

Both trade ups I could see requiring a current or future 3rd. I would not move one of the seconds in next year’s draft given the team’s current needs and value of a second round rookie contract player considering contracts up for renewal.
 
The two biggest holes are OT and WR. There is arguably not a single good OT in this draft, especially not one that will be available at the low 20s. IMO the 1st pick is their BPA WR or maybe an interior DL like Nolen from Ole Miss.

I don't think Shemar Stewart goes nearly as high as people seem to think he will. All the measurables but no production in college.
 
Simple question Are there rules preventing us from demanding all new players, (offensive linemen we have acquired for temporary duty), come in for physical drills ? For that matter .... include players on salary from last year , who may or may not have improved physically - over the off-season .... inquiring and Ancient minds need to know !
 
Simple question Are there rules preventing us from demanding all new players, (offensive linemen we have acquired for temporary duty), come in for physical drills ? For that matter .... include players on salary from last year , who may or may not have improved physically - over the off-season .... inquiring and Ancient minds need to know !
Voluntary Organized Team Activities are scheduled for May 28-30, June 2-3, June 5. There will be a mandatory mini camp scheduled for June 10-11. All are under the rules agreed to by Article 22 of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.
 
I like Booker. Tone setter. Totally opposite for the line culture from the dearly departed 78 - physical, mauler, swarm for miles.

If all were available, I’d go Banks first. Conerly is a little finesse for me, but he does seem to have the type of athleticism that would protect CJ’s blindside. I just don’t know if he’s as nasty as I want. I want a big ugly that eats nails for breakfast and lives and breathes football.

That guy is Booker. If you want a Tunsil type out at LT, I’m good with it and can get onboard. If you want a short area mauler with fight and attitude, I’m also good with Booker.

If forced to choose, it’s Banks > Conerly > Booker but all 3 will be successful imho.
 
I like Booker. Tone setter. Totally opposite for the line culture from the dearly departed 78 - physical, mauler, swarm for miles.

If all were available, I’d go Banks first. Conerly is a little finesse for me, but he does seem to have the type of athleticism that would protect CJ’s blindside. I just don’t know if he’s as nasty as I want. I want a big ugly that eats nails for breakfast and lives and breathes football.

That guy is Booker. If you want a Tunsil type out at LT, I’m good with it and can get onboard. If you want a short area mauler with fight and attitude, I’m also good with Booker.

If forced to choose, it’s Banks > Conerly > Booker but all 3 will be successful imho.
Booker @ 58 would be ok, 3rd round more optimal
 
Does he really expect anyone to believe?
"It's never playing football again," Hunter told CBS Sports. "Because I've been doing it my whole life, and I love being on the football field. I feel like I could dominate on each side of the ball, so I really enjoy doing it."
 
Not well, he's a mauler. What bothers me is because he's got slow feet guys get into his chest in pass pro. That's an issue playing against NFL caliber players.
I'm not a Booker fan but I think he's strong enough to prevent penetration on his pass set even with guys into his chest. In the run game, his forte will be to provide an instant hole where he's drive blocking. He won't be any good trying to get out front to a next level or pulling. He will have a place in the NFL for sure, but my preference would not be for the Texans.
 
I like Booker a lot. And he brings intangibles that in time can really change the culture of this line. He’s from Alabama…you know that’s already a huge advantage. He’s also been described as the Will Anderson of the offense. He is the anti-Tunsil. Tunsil had supreme athleticism but was a near zero on intangibles and leadership. Booker is a big strong mauler…but not the sort of athlete that will wow you. But when you add in the leadership qualities, the toughness and all sorts of swarm that can rub off on the others in that room…suddenly you see what he can bring to the team.

He is not going to bust like Green. He may not be a pro bowler either but taken in whole…he could be special for the team. Look beyond the feet, and consider the whole person we would be adding. There was a reason they traded the house to get Anderson and it wasn’t entirely for his physical gifts. Meco wants that same guy for his offense.

I would prefer to trade down a bit and then take Booker, but ifs Booker at 25…I’m 100% onboard. I’ve been one of his bigger boosters this spring, so I’d be pickled tink.

Ps to this - if they select Booker, we are moving to a power/gap type scheme, which doesn’t bother me a bit. The zone concepts haven’t worked here since Gary left.
 
I'm not a Booker fan but I think he's strong enough to prevent penetration on his pass set even with guys into his chest. In the run game, his forte will be to provide an instant hole where he's drive blocking. He won't be any good trying to get out front to a next level or pulling. He will have a place in the NFL for sure, but my preference would not be for the Texans.
It doesn't work against grown men in the pros. I also wonder about his ability to pickup stunts against more athletic DL in the pros. I'm not saying he can't do it, but I wouldn't be willing to risk 1-25 on him proving me wrong.
 
Does he really expect anyone to believe?
"It's never playing football again," Hunter told CBS Sports. "Because I've been doing it my whole life, and I love being on the football field. I feel like I could dominate on each side of the ball, so I really enjoy doing it."
John Harbaugh doubts there are “enough hours in the day” to play both ways on a full-time basis
Published April 16, 2025 10:47 AM

One of the biggest stories as the 2025 draft approaches relates to the plans for Travis Hunter after he’s drafted. He clearly wants to try to play both ways on a full-time basis.

Will the team that picks him let him do it?

Hopefully, they’ll let him try. It’s far better for him to figure it out on his own that it’s too much to handle than for someone else to tell him he can’t do it.

On Tuesday, Ravens coach John Harbaugh suggested it will be hard for anyone to do it.

“It’s gonna be interesting to see how they do it, wherever he goes,” Harbaugh said during a pre-draft press conference. “But to say that you’re gonna be completely immersed in everything that there is to know on offense and everything there is to know on defense. I don’t know if there’s enough hours in the day for a player to be able to do that, and to have every detail locked down.

“But you certainly could do it I would think on one side of the ball and then have some sort of a package on the other side of the ball, which is my guess is how the team will do it, wherever he goes. But I assume we’ll be playing against him, so we’re about to find out how that team does it.”

That team is likely the Browns. A division rival of the Ravens. So, yes, Harbaugh will find out — twice this year and every year Hunter is in Cleveland — how the Browns use him.

Harbaugh has a point. Think of the time a player spends (if he’s truly committed to his craft) preparing for a game. Beyond the reps on the practice field, he has to know the playbook. He has to know the audibles. He has to know the game plan. He has to know the various adjustments and checks at the line of scrimmage. He has to study film of the upcoming opponent. It’s a full load on one side of the ball. Double it, and it could be overwhelming.

Still, Hunter did it in college. And he did it well enough to be regarded as a top receiver prospect AND a top cornerback prospect.

He has earned the opportunity to attempt to do it at the next level. For now, the question is whether the team that drafts him is willing to let him try. If that team isn’t willing to let him try, it just shouldn’t draft him.

That said, Harbaugh has had a player play extensively on both sides of the ball. In 2019, Patrick Ricard became the first player since Browns receiver/safety Mike Furrey to play 100 or more snaps on offense and 100 or more snaps on defense. Furrey did it by shifting from receiver to safety due to injuries in the secondary. Richard played both defensive tackle and fullback by design.

Still, Hunter is looking at far more than 100 snaps on offense and defense in a season. If he gets his wish, he’ll be reaching that level every two games.

It would be great for the Browns if he can pull it off. It would be like having an extra player on the roster. It would give the Browns flexibility on game days, when it’s time to decide who should and shouldn’t be in uniform. They can dress one fewer receiver or one fewer defensive back, allowing them to use another player at another position.

Here’s hoping the Browns, if they take him, are willing to let him give it a shot. Then, if he concludes on his own that it’s too much to handle, he can settle into one position or the other.
 


Mock from Dane brugler
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/62...ck-draft-2025-full-seven-rounds-dane-brugler/

25. Houston Texans: Walter Nolen, DT, Ole Miss

Another true wild card in this draft class, Nolen could be snatched up in the top 15 by a team such as the49ers or Cowboys … or he could fall to the mid-20s,where the Texans would be ready to bet on his high-impact upside as an interior disruptor.

58. Texans: Jalen Royals, WR, Utah State
79. Texans: Marcus Mbow, G/C, Purdue
89. Texans: Charles Grant, OT, William & Mary
166. Texans: LeQuint Allen, RB, Syracuse
236. Texans: Jason Marshall, CB, Florida
241. Texans: Eli Cox, C, Kentucky
 
I certainly don't doubt his talent. But I've seen several articles that have pointed out long-standing character issues.

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DT Walter Nolen (Ole Miss)​

Nolen is coming off of his best season in 2024 in his long campaign with Ole Miss. In 13 games, Nolen recorded 48 total tackles, 14 tackles for loss, and 6.5 sacks. The 6-3, 300-pounder started to finally show off that five-star impact that once made him a hot commodity.

If it was just about talent, Nolen would have an argument to go inside the top 15 selections in April. The biggest test for Nolen in Indianapolis is to sell himself as a person to teams. There is some worrisome feedback regarding character for Nolen, which goes back to his high school days, and continued both at Texas A&M and with the Rebels. There are even a couple of NFL teams who have already taken Nolen off their boards. link
 
I certainly don't doubt his talent. But I've seen several articles that have pointed out long-standing character issues.

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DT Walter Nolen (Ole Miss)​

Nolen is coming off of his best season in 2024 in his long campaign with Ole Miss. In 13 games, Nolen recorded 48 total tackles, 14 tackles for loss, and 6.5 sacks. The 6-3, 300-pounder started to finally show off that five-star impact that once made him a hot commodity.

If it was just about talent, Nolen would have an argument to go inside the top 15 selections in April. The biggest test for Nolen in Indianapolis is to sell himself as a person to teams. There is some worrisome feedback regarding character for Nolen, which goes back to his high school days, and continued both at Texas A&M and with the Rebels. There are even a couple of NFL teams who have already taken Nolen off their boards. link
There's a reason he would be available at 1-25. Even with those character concerns he was the best DL on the field while playing for the Rebels last yr and also was the best DL on the loaded A&M DL the yr before IMHO. Dude can play and if Caserio goes DT in the 1st Nolen is worthy of 1-25. I would rather Caserio draft a guy like Donovan Jackson or Josh Conerly at 1-25 and then draft Tyliek Williams or Albert Collins at 2-58. But that puts you in the position of hoping one of Royals/Ayomanor/ long shot Thornton etc... falls to 3-79. I guess they could trade up to make sure they got their guy.
 
Nolen has high end talent. All pro upside. In a draft filled with stud DTs he has the highest ceiling. If he hits, you’ve got the next Quinnen Williams/Chris Jones. Worth the risk at 25. Especially if you don’t feel 100% sure on the OL or WR being more than a solid starter as their ceiling. Getting an all pro talent is the difference between competing for AFC South Banners vs Lombardi Trophies.
 
There's a reason he would be available at 1-25. Even with those character concerns he was the best DL on the field while playing for the Rebels last yr and also was the best DL on the loaded A&M DL the yr before IMHO. Dude can play and if Caserio goes DT in the 1st Nolen is worthy of 1-25. I would rather Caserio draft a guy like Donovan Jackson or Josh Conerly at 1-25 and then draft Tyliek Williams or Albert Collins at 2-58. But that puts you in the position of hoping one of Royals/Ayomanor/ long shot Thornton etc... falls to 3-79. I guess they could trade up to make sure they got their guy.
Digging a little deeper, I found several examples throughout his career where he claimed injury without evident trauma and refused to go back into games. Furthermore, from what I have been told, beginning in high school and bleeding into his college career, when frustrated, he would unexplainably leave practices including with A&M and the Rebels.

Immaturity? Maybe. Some players grow out of it...............some don't.
 
•As the draft approaches, Georgia center Jared Wilson is one of the hottest names in scouting communities. A one-year starter for the Bulldogs, he turned in an elite predraft circuit, including a ridiculous 4.84 in the 40-yard dash at 6-foot-3 and 310 pounds. Wilson also added a 32-inch vertical and a 9-foot-4 broad jump. His elite physical tools and agility show up on tape, putting him into late-Round 1 to early-Round 2 territory.

•I've heard that the Kansas City Chiefs are actively looking to trade up in Round 1. They signed left tackle Jaylon Moore in free agency but were otherwise quiet, opting to re-sign their own versus hitting the open market. A move up in Round 1 would likely be for a long-term offensive tackle solution; I heard the goal would be to move in front of the Houston Texans (No. 25) and Los Angeles Rams (No. 26) if the Chiefs like a specific left tackle still on the board.

•Speaking of trades, two teams that continue to come up as trade-back candidates are the Carolina Panthers (No. 8) and Minnesota Vikings (No. 24). The Panthers have nine total selections but could be tempted to trade back for more Day 2 picks, which they would use on the defensive line and at wide receiver. And Minnesota has the fewest picks this year with four, so it could be looking for more draft capital.

 
They aren’t drafting Simmons imho. Too risky. Now…if he drops to the 3rd round…I’ll take that gamble, but not before.
I get your logic, but they signed Howard to the extension (I think?) and signed a FA with a patellar injury as well. I get the feeling that the Texans don't view the injury as serious as we do.
 
If KC jumps the Texans, and Houston drafts Simmons; I will not have enjoyed Thursday night.
If you can't get a stud OT, then get a stud LG.
Hopefully the vets they brought in can be decent and the rook G can bolster that left side.
If they don't do something on that side on draft night, I will be fearful for CJ
 
Good listen from LZ. Cliff notes: Does not think OL issues can be fixed this offseason. Not a very strong draft for OT and doesn’t think they should significantly trade up for any of them. Thinks Texans target interior OL if they stay at 25 Booker, Zabel or Jackson.

I'd add Banks to this list, at OG not OT. I've read one assessment, and it is only an opinion, that Banks could be very good at OT, but would be a Pro Bowl OG.
 

"Yeah, I don't think they're both on the board. I think that decision would be made for them. It might be a situation where they're both off the board at that point in time. I would think a guy like Donovan Jackson could enter into their mix as a possibility there for one of those selections. It just feels like offensive line, and those are the two names that I had heard connected to them that they really, really liked.

So in terms of how I would stack it up, you know, the one guy in this draft class--there's usually a guy like this every year where he kind of starts off in a range on my initial list, and then it feels like other guys are kind of moving up and moving around, and then without any rationale for it, he is kind of--Banks for me has kind of slipped down, but it feels more like--I was looking at it the other day. I was, like, I need to go back and revisit my original list and see who has moved and why, why did I have him go up or down? He's one that felt more like other guys I had just moved up more so than he did anything to disqualify himself and move down.

When I do my final update, I'll move Banks back up a little bit closer to where I had him originally, which I think he was my 19th player at that point in time. He's a solid player. I just wish he strained to finish a little bit more. Booker to me is a little more physical, has a little more edge to him. Obviously you are talking tackle versus guard. Pure grade-wise, I had Booker over him, but I don't know that there's a wrong answer there. I think they're both immediate upgrades."
 
Good listen from LZ. Cliff notes: Does not think OL issues can be fixed this offseason. Not a very strong draft for OT and doesn’t think they should significantly trade up for any of them. Thinks Texans target interior OL if they stay at 25 Booker, Zabel or Jackson.

They are going to pick Booker. I hope I'm wrong about this.

If they want to change the attitude of the OL, draft Booker and Ratledge in rds 1-2. Then draft a guy like Fidone in rd 4-5. These are attitude changers IMHO.
 
If Conerly and Donovan Jackson are available in round 2, a trade for 33 and 67 would be amazing. Two 2s and three 3s could bring huge haul of quality players and that doesn't include Caserio utilizing 2026 extra round two and four.
Some KC fans saying Chiefs are sold on Josh Simmons despite knee. Nick could work that angle.
KC may not want to trade with Houston but that would be an ideal spot to have a choice between the Josh's and perhaps zabel.
 
They are going to pick Booker. I hope I'm wrong about this.

If they want to change the attitude of the OL, draft Booker and Ratledge in rds 1-2. Then draft a guy like Fidone in rd 4-5. These are attitude changers IMHO.
I agree with Jeremiah, I think Booker goes before 25. Coaches love his tape and what he’d bring to the locker room they’ll look past his combine numbers. He’s so big maybe they hope it’s a non-issue like Orlando Brown Jr. at tackle.

If we are rating OL by their “swarm” rating he’d be the top ranked OL this year.

That being said, Donovan Jackson is my OG1. And all indications point to him being available at 25. And if that’s the case I am perfectly happy with him if they choose to go OL at 25.
 
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