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Texansballer74 said:
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Surprised? Said nobody.
 
Hear a lot of media & draft experts say Texans can’t afford to take risks in first round on OT. Either because of scaring, missing on talent, overpaying or my favorite, Texans and Caserio don’t know how to evaluate offensive line talent.

You know what the risk is, not protecting your franchise QB CJ Stroud. Period. End of discussion. Doesn’t matter what weapons @ his disposal if he can’t escape pressure & become a sack lunch.

The window is farther forward than his rookie contract expiration date. Foundation pieces are not in these journeyman, veteran linemen, only stop gap. It’s vitally important not to ignore dangers it presents over some shiny offensive object.

They say, Texans filled need and can move on to WR, RB or TE. To me it’s an elaborate smoke screen to thwart another team from taking a LT.

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We did fill the need with Cam Robinson, so it's not a high priority. I wouldn't want to trade up; let the draft fall to us. Golden is the only WR I absolutely couldn't pass up at 25, maybe trade up a few spots. I can't ignore his speed. But I expect him to be gone. In which case I'd be considering the OL. Whoever the Texans like, but I'm liking Donoven Jackson. Maybe trade back a few spots and still get him. Then WR at 58.
 
Thorn said:
One way or the other, if the Texans don't fix the oline we aren't getting anywhere close to a SB. And I'm not convinced the off season moves so far fixed it.
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I don't think anyone thinks the off season moves "fixed" our OL. They are only stop gaps. Truth be told, we don't know what we have, or how our young OLmen already on the team are going to improve under the new coaching. That's the problem with coaching changes. You sometimes are set back until we see what we have. We can say with certainty that we'll draft for the OL.
 
beerlover said:
Hear a lot of media & draft experts say Texans can’t afford to take risks in first round on OT. Either because of scaring, missing on talent, overpaying or my favorite, Texans and Caserio don’t know how to evaluate offensive line talent.

You know what the risk is, not protecting your franchise QB CJ Stroud. Period. End of discussion. Doesn’t matter what weapons @ his disposal if he can’t escape pressure & become a sack lunch.

The window is farther forward than his rookie contract expiration date. Foundation pieces are not in these journeyman, veteran linemen, only stop gap. It’s vitally important not to ignore dangers it presents over some shiny offensive object.

They say, Texans filled need and can move on to WR, RB or TE. To me it’s an elaborate smoke screen to thwart another team from taking a LT.

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I'm beginning to come around on Conerly at 1-25.
 
Number19 said:
I don't think anyone thinks the off season moves "fixed" our OL. They are only stop gaps. Truth be told, we don't know what we have, or how our young OLmen already on the team are going to improve under the new coaching. That's the problem with coaching changes. You sometimes are set back until we see what we have. We can say with certainty that we'll draft for the OL.
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We can only hope that our past oline problems were coaching related. Because, if that's the case, we stand a good 50-50 chance the oline will show some improvement. Maybe.

I just totally distrust our oline and it's capabilities to protect Stroud. Until I see an actual improvement, I'm going to continue to be negative as hell about it. LOL
 
Thorn said:
We can only hope that our past oline problems were coaching related. Because, if that's the case, we stand a good 50-50 chance the oline will show some improvement. Maybe.

I just totally distrust our oline and it's capabilities to protect Stroud. Until I see an actual improvement, I'm going to continue to be negative as hell about it. LOL
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The other thing to remember, our recently drafted, young OLmen will only be going into their 2nd or 3rd year. This is the year they need to prove themselves. But it's not unreasonable to remain skeptical until they do prove themselves.
 
RE Banks: Guard in 2025 likely kicks to T in 2026.

There are those that think the only way to protect CJ is to draft 5 first round draft picks. We see it in this thread with shrill sounds of fix the o-line, nothing else matters. Like the o-line performs in a vacuum and is completely isolated from anybody else on the offense.

There’s so much more to it. Starting with a better overall set of play designs and offense that is well-suited to the talent on hand.

Also drafting and signing Talented RB’s, WR’s and TE’s that other teams actually fear will help keep the blitz packages to a minimum and give CJ an outlet and playmakers when the play goes awry. A smart in game play caller (Bobby was not) that can work on quicker developing routes, make sure everyone knows hot reads, etc. A line coach that knows how to blend guys to form one cohesive unit, rather than 5 individuals. And lastly, a smarter CJ that can be his own best protection asset by being smarter in the pocket, and using his newfound wheels more often when the play is breaking down.

In short, it’s all 11 guys, plus all of the coaches together that will dictate the success of the offense in 2025. We’ve got a right to be skeptical…not saying we should just assume that magically everything is going to be great.

What I am saying is that many successful offenses do not have a bunch of first round o-lineman. They have 5 guys working together, along with the other elements noted above.

I think they will draft 1 or quite possibly two offensive lineman. Let’s see if all the other pieces can mesh together and at least get this offense into average territory this year.
 
Number19 said:
I don't think anyone thinks the off season moves "fixed" our OL. They are only stop gaps. Truth be told, we don't know what we have, or how our young OLmen already on the team are going to improve under the new coaching. That's the problem with coaching changes. You sometimes are set back until we see what we have. We can say with certainty that we'll draft for the OL.
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The idea may be to get through this season & space out the cost of a 1st Round LT.
 
Number19 said:
We did fill the need with Cam Robinson, so it's not a high priority. I wouldn't want to trade up; let the draft fall to us. Golden is the only WR I absolutely couldn't pass up at 25, maybe trade up a few spots. I can't ignore his speed. But I expect him to be gone. In which case I'd be considering the OL. Whoever the Texans like, but I'm liking Donoven Jackson. Maybe trade back a few spots and still get him. Then WR at 58.
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Jackson could fill OG or OT.
 
I am not sure that Robinson is even a stop gap. If he does work out for one or maybe two seasons, we definitely need someone to replace him so why not get one who can be a 10 to 12 year fixture? I have said I want whoever we get at 1.25 to be a day one starter but may need to rethink that for left tackle. The puzzle for me is: if Banks/Conerly or Simmons will sit for a season can Charles Grant be equivalent to those in 2026? That would create a whole different look at 25.
Can Simmons be even better basically sitting behind Robinson as would the others sitting?

If Donovan Jackson can start LT in 2026, again shuffle that round 1 thinking. Left tackle at Ohio State is not the same as left tackle for the Houston Texans, yet Jackson resolved that issue remarkably well.
Do you want to mess with Jackson starting at left guard in 2025 and then relocate him to 2026 left tackle?

I imagine Nick and Nick thinking a lot about this.
 
badboy said:
I am not sure that Robinson is even a stop gap. If he does work out for one or maybe two seasons, we definitely need someone to replace him so why not get one who can be a 10 to 12 year fixture? I have said I want whoever we get at 1.25 to be a day one starter but may need to rethink that for left tackle. The puzzle for me is: if Banks/Conerly or Simmons will sit for a season can Charles Grant be equivalent to those in 2026? That would create a whole different look at 25.
Can Simmons be even better basically sitting behind Robinson as would the others sitting?

If Donovan Jackson can start LT in 2026, again shuffle that round 1 thinking. Left tackle at Ohio State is not the same as left tackle for the Houston Texans, yet Jackson resolved that issue remarkably well.
Do you want to mess with Jackson starting at left guard in 2025 and then relocate him to 2026 left tackle?

I imagine Nick and Nick thinking a lot about this.
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There's not an OT in this years draft that I'd want to I bet a 1st round pick on to be the long term answer at the position. There's been comment that Nick may be looking at 2026 and this may be best. OG? Yes. Jackson at OT? No.
 
Number19 said:
There's not an OT in this years draft that I'd want to I bet a 1st round pick on to be the long term answer at the position. There's been comment that Nick may be looking at 2026 and this may be best. OG? Yes. Jackson at OT? No.
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Waiting till 2026 would be a huge Gamble. Especially if we go even deeper into the playoffs this year
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
I wish I hadn't seen him play in the Senior Bowl. He doesn't seem to be very strong. If he is going to make it in the NFL, someone is going to put him through vigorous strength training.
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Best thing that could’ve happened to him. Took a practice rep less than full speed and got steamrolled. That ain’t happening again, promise you. He only gave up two sacks and 8 pressures in over 1000 snaps LT in PAC 12 then Big 10. Something to fully understand about Josh is he super young, had just turned 21 couple months before Senior Bowl Practices. He will obviously get much stronger and bigger. What he has is feet & balance of a RB. Rare, elite traits with frame of Duane Brown.
 
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CloakNNNdagger said:
I wish I hadn't seen him play in the Senior Bowl. He doesn't seem to be very strong. If he is going to make it in the NFL, someone is going to put him through vigorous strength training.
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Go look at both of his games against very good OSU edges. He more than held his own. He's got great feet and long arms that he puts to very good use in pass pro. Give him a yr to get stronger and you'll have something. Although he's not terrible in the run game either. I guess this comes down to do you value his Sr. Bowl tape vs his gameday tape.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
For Conerly's sake, I hope you're right. But I would without a doubt choose Jackson over him any day of the week.

I just can't seem to unsee this...........

https://twitter.com/x/status/1884644036176216559
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That's the only time I remember seeing this all week and OL are at a big disadvantage in these one on one drills. It didn't happen in the game. Really, I'm just hoping one of Jackson/Conerly/Loveland/Zabel/Golden are available at 1-25.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
For Conerly's sake, I hope you're right. But I would without a doubt choose Jackson over him any day of the week.

I just can't seem to unsee this...........

https://twitter.com/x/status/1884644036176216559
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Mike Green stock rose from borderline 1st rounder to top 10 pick, thanks to that play. Reminds me of the Clowney mugging in College he rode all the way to the #1 overall pick in draft to Houston.
 
beerlover said:
Mike Green stock rose from borderline 1st rounder to top 10 pick, thanks to that play. Reminds me of the Clowney mugging in College he rode all the way to the #1 overall pick in draft to Houston.
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Mike Green was in Mobile at the request of NFL teams. They knew Green was good, just didn't know how he would matchup with guys from bigger schools. They found out that was not an issue. Green's as sudden as Abdul Carter. That's why he has moved up.
 
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Lucky said:
Mike Green was in Mobile at the request of NFL teams. They knew Green was good, just didn't know how he would matchup with guys from bigger schools. They found out that was not an issue. Green's as sudden as Abdul Carter. That's why he has moved up.
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Maybe because sexual assault red flag, allegedly.
 
steelbtexan said:
Man it would be so good to get both of these guys to solidify the left side of the OL for the next 5-10 yrs. Hopefully they can find a WR at 3-79.
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Isaac TeSlaa, Jaylin Noel, Isaiah Bond, Chimera Dike may all be there; and as much as we like Kyle Williams, some have him available in round three also.
We often are not specific in mentioning the 2026 picks we got from the Commander trade. Nick has an extra round two and round four to utilize if he chooses that do not impact our own 2026 .
 
beerlover said:
Adding little more context to viral rep -

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Good review! He explained the "pancake drill" as a RT, but also pointed out similar problems when he manned LT.

The bottom line is what I brought out previously.................he is weak. With a decent amount of time in good strength training, he may be able to overcome that. Many college players do.........but some don't. For several reasons, including the level of increased defense competition from college, he is not going to be 2025-ready. Time will tell beyond that.
 
Errant Hothy said:
Watching the reps after this, all of the OL were giving up space to Green as quickly as possible
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I remember when Elgton Jenkins had some rough tape against Quinnen Williams people said not to draft him. OL will lose reps against these super athletic DL from time to time.

There aren’t a lot of teams who would pass on adding Elgton Jenkins to their team now.
 
Porky said:
RE Banks: Guard in 2025 likely kicks to T in 2026.

There are those that think the only way to protect CJ is to draft 5 first round draft picks. We see it in this thread with shrill sounds of fix the o-line, nothing else matters. Like the o-line performs in a vacuum and is completely isolated from anybody else on the offense.

There’s so much more to it. Starting with a better overall set of play designs and offense that is well-suited to the talent on hand.

Also drafting and signing Talented RB’s, WR’s and TE’s that other teams actually fear will help keep the blitz packages to a minimum and give CJ an outlet and playmakers when the play goes awry. A smart in game play caller (Bobby was not) that can work on quicker developing routes, make sure everyone knows hot reads, etc. A line coach that knows how to blend guys to form one cohesive unit, rather than 5 individuals. And lastly, a smarter CJ that can be his own best protection asset by being smarter in the pocket, and using his newfound wheels more often when the play is breaking down.

In short, it’s all 11 guys, plus all of the coaches together that will dictate the success of the offense in 2025. We’ve got a right to be skeptical…not saying we should just assume that magically everything is going to be great.

What I am saying is that many successful offenses do not have a bunch of first round o-lineman. They have 5 guys working together, along with the other elements noted above.

I think they will draft 1 or quite possibly two offensive lineman. Let’s see if all the other pieces can mesh together and at least get this offense into average territory this year.
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badboy said:
I am not sure that Robinson is even a stop gap. If he does work out for one or maybe two seasons, we definitely need someone to replace him so why not get one who can be a 10 to 12 year fixture? I have said I want whoever we get at 1.25 to be a day one starter but may need to rethink that for left tackle. The puzzle for me is: if Banks/Conerly or Simmons will sit for a season can Charles Grant be equivalent to those in 2026? That would create a whole different look at 25.
Can Simmons be even better basically sitting behind Robinson as would the others sitting?

If Donovan Jackson can start LT in 2026, again shuffle that round 1 thinking. Left tackle at Ohio State is not the same as left tackle for the Houston Texans, yet Jackson resolved that issue remarkably well.
Do you want to mess with Jackson starting at left guard in 2025 and then relocate him to 2026 left tackle?

I imagine Nick and Nick thinking a lot about this.
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I liked both of these posts but wanted to comment on some things they mentioned. Personally, I don't want our 1st round pick to essentially sit a year as a backup. Maybe give them a couple of games to feel things out but want that player to have significant play time by about the first 1/4th-1/3rd of the season. I understand why you would just want to grab the guy that will have the highest upside and figure it out. I think Badboy makes a excellent point that you don't want to draft a guy for a position on the OL and keep moving him around. We've seen how that has worked out in the past. Fortunately, the Texans have positioned themselves to take BPA [best player available...I know most of you know what this means, but there could be newer fans that don't know].

One of the things I think that the Texans did correctly in FA is making sure they didn't have to reach for any particular player group. I've seen this be the weak point of the previous Texans regime's drafts. They always had to reach for a guy that wasn't ready because they didn't address it sooner, which made them have to pass up BPA and create a chain reaction that we don't see for another year or two. The next year we're doing the same thing and always robbing Peter to pay Paul.

As scary as it is to go into this year with the line as is, I have a strong suspicion they will draft at least 2 OL. Where they draft them is a great question. I do know one thing: the Texans need some offensive weapons, especially guys with speed that can get open fast. I don't care if that is a TE, WR, or RB. We need a weapon. Kudos to Porky about recognizing that with play calling and better scheming, the Texans can take 5 average guys and make them a viable OL. You don't need 5 hall of famers on your line to get good results, you need a QB that makes good decisions and a play caller that utilizes the strengths of their players and keeps them away from having your faberge egg, non-blocking TE blocking edge guys. Mixon was completely misused in the passing game. I'm sure everyone has an observation about why the offense sucked last year and they probably are all valid.

I could see the Texans trading up (a few spots) or trading back significantly if Caserio and Co. think they can get the "pool" of players they seek. There is no doubt they want culture guys and Egbuka and Booker fit that mold. Would they trade up to get them both? Maybe, but I think that's why the Texans have had a pretty good offseason so far because other organizations can't predict exactly what they're going to do.
 
Texans current roster per Texans.com. If accurate I count 74 players.

Offense -- 37 Players

WR: Braxton Berrios -- Nico Collins -- Tank Dell -- Xavier Hutchinson -- Johnny Johnson III -- Xavier Johnson -- Christian Kirk -- John Metchie III -- Justin Watson -- Jared Wayne
C/G: Jarrett Patterson -- Juice Scruggs
OT: Trent Brown -- Cam Robinson
RB: British Brooks -- Jawhar Jordan -- Joe Mixon -- Dare Ogunbowale -- Dameon Pierce -- J.J. Taylor
TE: Brevin Jordan -- Dalton Schultz -- Cade Stover
T: Austin Deculus -- Blake Fisher -- Tytus Howard -- Jaylon Thomas -- Zach Thomas
FB: Jakob Johnson
G: Tremayne Anchrum Jr. -- Nick Broeker -- Jerome Carvin -- Ed Ingram -- Laken Tomlinson
QB: Davis Mills -- Kedon Slovis -- C.J. Stroud

Defense -- 34 Players

LB: Azeez Al-Shaair -- Jake Hansen -- Christian Harris -- Jamal Hill -- Nick Niemann -- E.J. Speed -- Henry To'oTo'o
DB: Tremon Smith
DE: Will Anderson Jr. -- Denico Autry -- Derek Barnett -- Solomon Byrd -- Dylan Horton -- Danielle Hunter -- Kingsley Jonathan -- Darrell Taylor -- Casey Toohill
CB: Ronald Darby -- Gregory Junior -- Kamari Lassiter -- D'Angelo Ross -- Derek Stingley Jr.
S: Calen Bullock -- C.J. Gardner-Johnson -- Jalen Pitre -- M.J. Stewart -- Jimmie Ward -- Russ Yeast
DT: Mario Edwards Jr. -- Kurt Hinish -- Jayden Peevy -- Sheldon Rankins -- Tim Settle Jr. -- Tommy Togiai

Special Teams -- 3 Players

LS: Tucker Addington
P: Tommy Townsend
K: Ka'imi Fairbairn

Man it looks weird not to see Jon Weeks as long snapper.
 
mws said:
Texans current roster per Texans.com. If accurate I count 74 players.

Offense -- 37 Players

WR: Braxton Berrios -- Nico Collins -- Tank Dell -- Xavier Hutchinson -- Johnny Johnson III -- Xavier Johnson -- Christian Kirk -- John Metchie III -- Justin Watson -- Jared Wayne
C/G: Jarrett Patterson -- Juice Scruggs
OT: Trent Brown -- Cam Robinson
RB: British Brooks -- Jawhar Jordan -- Joe Mixon -- Dare Ogunbowale -- Dameon Pierce -- J.J. Taylor
TE: Brevin Jordan -- Dalton Schultz -- Cade Stover
T: Austin Deculus -- Blake Fisher -- Tytus Howard -- Jaylon Thomas -- Zach Thomas
FB: Jakob Johnson
G: Tremayne Anchrum Jr. -- Nick Broeker -- Jerome Carvin -- Ed Ingram -- Laken Tomlinson
QB: Davis Mills -- Kedon Slovis -- C.J. Stroud

Defense -- 34 Players

LB: Azeez Al-Shaair -- Jake Hansen -- Christian Harris -- Jamal Hill -- Nick Niemann -- E.J. Speed -- Henry To'oTo'o
DB: Tremon Smith
DE: Will Anderson Jr. -- Denico Autry -- Derek Barnett -- Solomon Byrd -- Dylan Horton -- Danielle Hunter -- Kingsley Jonathan -- Darrell Taylor -- Casey Toohill
CB: Ronald Darby -- Gregory Junior -- Kamari Lassiter -- D'Angelo Ross -- Derek Stingley Jr.
S: Calen Bullock -- C.J. Gardner-Johnson -- Jalen Pitre -- M.J. Stewart -- Jimmie Ward -- Russ Yeast
DT: Mario Edwards Jr. -- Kurt Hinish -- Jayden Peevy -- Sheldon Rankins -- Tim Settle Jr. -- Tommy Togiai

Special Teams -- 3 Players

LS: Tucker Addington
P: Tommy Townsend
K: Ka'imi Fairbairn

Man it looks weird not to see Jon Weeks as long snapper.
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Plus 7 from the draft and a handful from unfa.
Still leaves a few options like trades and free agency.
Nice to have options but Nick still has some more work to do.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
Good review! He explained the "pancake drill" as a RT, but also pointed out similar problems when he manned LT.

The bottom line is what I brought out previously.................he is weak. With a decent amount of time in good strength training, he may be able to overcome that. Many college players do.........but some don't. For several reasons, including the level of increased defense competition from college, he is not going to be 2025-ready. Time will tell beyond that.
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Weak is a strong term, maybe arm wrestling match😂 Or pay per view, one on ones with Mike Green?
beerlover said:
Best thing that could’ve happened to him. Took a practice rep less than full speed and got steamrolled. That ain’t happening again, promise you. He only gave up two sacks and 8 pressures in over 1000 snaps LT in PAC 12 then Big 10. Something to fully understand about Josh is he super young, had just turned 21 couple months before Senior Bowl Practices. He will obviously get much stronger and bigger. What he has is feet & balance of a RB. Rare, elite traits with frame of Duane Brown.
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Should have elaborated or mentioned what I consider a red flag when it comes to Mr. Green, he left the Senior Bowl next day after that practice. Don’t know if that’s on his agent or him, but going back to Clowney, fool me once, not fooling me twice.
 
mws said:
Texans current roster per Texans.com. If accurate I count 74 players.

Offense -- 37 Players

WR: Braxton Berrios -- Nico Collins -- Tank Dell -- Xavier Hutchinson -- Johnny Johnson III -- Xavier Johnson -- Christian Kirk -- John Metchie III -- Justin Watson -- Jared Wayne
C/G: Jarrett Patterson -- Juice Scruggs
OT: Trent Brown -- Cam Robinson
RB: British Brooks -- Jawhar Jordan -- Joe Mixon -- Dare Ogunbowale -- Dameon Pierce -- J.J. Taylor
TE: Brevin Jordan -- Dalton Schultz -- Cade Stover
T: Austin Deculus -- Blake Fisher -- Tytus Howard -- Jaylon Thomas -- Zach Thomas
FB: Jakob Johnson
G: Tremayne Anchrum Jr. -- Nick Broeker -- Jerome Carvin -- Ed Ingram -- Laken Tomlinson
QB: Davis Mills -- Kedon Slovis -- C.J. Stroud

Defense -- 34 Players

LB: Azeez Al-Shaair -- Jake Hansen -- Christian Harris -- Jamal Hill -- Nick Niemann -- E.J. Speed -- Henry To'oTo'o
DB: Tremon Smith
DE: Will Anderson Jr. -- Denico Autry -- Derek Barnett -- Solomon Byrd -- Dylan Horton -- Danielle Hunter -- Kingsley Jonathan -- Darrell Taylor -- Casey Toohill
CB: Ronald Darby -- Gregory Junior -- Kamari Lassiter -- D'Angelo Ross -- Derek Stingley Jr.
S: Calen Bullock -- C.J. Gardner-Johnson -- Jalen Pitre -- M.J. Stewart -- Jimmie Ward -- Russ Yeast
DT: Mario Edwards Jr. -- Kurt Hinish -- Jayden Peevy -- Sheldon Rankins -- Tim Settle Jr. -- Tommy Togiai

Special Teams -- 3 Players

LS: Tucker Addington
P: Tommy Townsend
K: Ka'imi Fairbairn

Man it looks weird not to see Jon Weeks as long snapper.
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Over the Cap has two additional names
T -Tremayne Anchrum
G - LaDarius Henderson

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