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Watson cant play football

I think the Browns are lying that they didn’t know considering they just restructured his contract again. Maybe they didn’t know. But Watson dancing on the side of the highway SHOULD cause that insurance clause to be null and void or it not to be underwritten.
 
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@djohn2oo8
Setbacks post Achilles rupture repair come in only 2 forms.......................infection and re-rupture. Both are extremely rare! Postop infections occur less than 2.5% of cases and re-ruptures occur only 1 to 1.5% of cases. Infections are typically superficial and can be treated with antibiotics (almost never require surgery). Both of these complications tend to occur within ~1 month of surgery............not 2 1/2 months later.

Either way, these complications can usually be treated with expectations of performance close to what they might have been had the complication not occurred................which I've previously posted for Watson, a QB that relies heavily on his mobility, is not that promising.

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CloakNNNdagger said:
@djohn2oo8
Setbacks post Achilles rupture repair come in only 2 forms.......................infection and re-rupture. Both are extremely rare! Postop infections occur less than 2.5% of cases and re-ruptures occur only 1 to 1.5% of cases. Infections are typically superficial and can be treated with antibiotics (almost never require surgery). Both of these complications tend to occur within ~1 month of surgery............not 2 1/2 months later.

Either way, these complications can usually be treated with expectations of performance close to what they might have been had the complication not occurred................which I've previously posted for Watson, a QB that relies heavily on his mobility, is not that promising.

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The smell is getting stronger as the Browns will get

https://twitter.com/x/status/1876292917717070028

I hope that independent insurance doctors examine Watson and review his case before signing off on any pay out. Fraud should be on everyone's mind.
 

Percutaneous Achilles Repair System (PARS)​

I know Dr. Robert Anderson who is world-famous as a foot and ankle surgeon. He uses the above repair technique on virtually all his Achilles rupture patients, especially elite athletes (including Watson). Expected return to football is 5 months. Even with the very unlikely occurrence of a complication, a redo would still allow him to return to play for the 2025 season.

Again, Watson may not be able to return to play as a QB the Browns expected (which he never has in Cleveland), but there is no reason that he cannot return to play this upcoming season. The Browns should have no legitimate claim to the $44.3 million "insurance" money.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:

Percutaneous Achilles Repair System (PARS)​

I know Dr. Robert Anderson who is world-famous as a foot and ankle surgeon. He uses the above repair technique on virtually all his Achilles rupture patients, especially elite athletes (including Watson). Expected return to football is 5 months. Even with the very unlikely occurrence of a complication, a redo would still allow him to return to play for the 2025 season.

Again, Watson may not be able to return to play as a QB the Browns expected (which he never has in Cleveland), but there is no reason that he cannot return to play this upcoming season. The Browns should have no legitimate claim to the $44.3 million "insurance" money.
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Yep. It would be easy for anyone to see this thing stinks and should be thoroughly evaluated. I’m betting other owners would be irate. Andrew Berry didn’t say what the setback was. He also said they just found out which does not add up.
 
Coming off of a ruptured Achilles, it’s going to be hard for Watson to win whatever phony camp battle the Browns assemble. He struggled in Stefanski’s offense. Cleveland.com reported last week that a source close to Watson said that he’d be most functional if he had full command of the offense.
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Watson is going to travel to see Dr. Robert Anderson his Achilles surgeon for evaluation.

Mary Cabot meanwhile is saying:

“If he needs another surgery, and if he does need this thing repaired again, I think he’s out for the 2025 season. I mean, I just don’t know how you can try to come back from another surgery that you’re going to have in January, maybe even February, after you do all your due diligence and try to be back on the football field by the start of the season.”
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The average return to play after even a redo would be ~ 6 month..............no reason to expect that he would not be ready to play near the beginning of this next season. If he's out for the season, it's strictly manipulation/dishonesty and attempting insurance fraud.
 
If I were the Browns, I would say that we believe in Watson but know that he will never play again because of his injuries and we are moving on. If Ward is not chosen, he would be my quarterback and hope for the best. If it's Sanders, I would hope for a huge trade package to be offered. I would also trade down in round two and select Longhorns Ewers.
If I got Ward, I would call Houston and work a deal for tunsil. Raiders 6 and 37 plus.. would it be a place to begin and would also please Sheuders Daddy.
 
badboy said:
If I were the Browns, I would say that we believe in Watson but know that he will never play again because of his injuries and we are moving on. If Ward is not chosen, he would be my quarterback and hope for the best. If it's Sanders, I would hope for a huge trade package to be offered. I would also trade down in round two and select Longhorns Ewers.
If I got Ward, I would call Houston and work a deal for tunsil. Raiders 6 and 37 plus.. would it be a place to begin and would also please Sheuders Daddy.
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Everything always comes back to Tunsil?
 
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CnDs Watson “therapy”
 
djohn2oo8 said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1877807022726373613
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CloakNNNdagger said:
@djohn2oo8
Setbacks post Achilles rupture repair come in only 2 forms.......................infection and re-rupture. Both are extremely rare! Postop infections occur less than 2.5% of cases and re-ruptures occur only 1 to 1.5% of cases. Infections are typically superficial and can be treated with antibiotics (almost never require surgery). Both of these complications tend to occur within ~1 month of surgery............not 2 1/2 months later.
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CloakNNNdagger said:

Percutaneous Achilles Repair System (PARS)​

I know Dr. Robert Anderson who is world-famous as a foot and ankle surgeon. He uses the above repair technique on virtually all his Achilles rupture patients, especially elite athletes (including Watson). Expected return to football is 5 months. Even with the very unlikely occurrence of a complication, a redo would still allow him to return to play for the 2025 season.

Again, Watson may not be able to return to play as a QB the Browns expected (which he never has in Cleveland), but there is no reason that he cannot return to play this upcoming season. The Browns should have no legitimate claim to the $44.3 million "insurance" money.
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Dr. Morse did not know that Watson underwent a minimally invasive PARS Achilles repair which allows the athlete out of a boot and into a shoe with heel lifts at 8 weeks (Watson's video with Jilly clearly shows him out of the boot as per the protocol). But you still need to be careful to not allow ankle motion beyond neutral. The insurance company should definitely investigate how he rolled his ankle..................something that would be difficult to do if he were following protocol.

Dr.Morse states that with the redo, he would not be able to play in 2025. This is absolutely false. By 6-7 months he should be able to return to play..............probably the beginning of the 2025 season.
 
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How the heck does some roll their ankle during a routine rehab.............doesn't happen.


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It does happen though. I severed several tendons in my hand… had surgery to reattach them. Went home and had “relations” for a lack of a better word. One of the tendons had to be reattached again.
 
The PARS Achilles repair as I've posted before does not require a boot to be worn at the time he supposedly sustained his recent re-injury.

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Deshaun Watson’s new Achilles injury potentially jeopardizes $92 million​


The second tear of quarterback Deshaun Watson’s Achilles tendon could give the Browns their last and best chance to avoid the remaining $92 million owed to him under his fully-guaranteed five-year deal.

The primary question is whether he re-tore the tendon doing something that his contract specifically prevents him from doing, under the clauses that guarantee his $46 million salary in 2025 and his $46 million salary in 2026.

Based on his contract, the guarantees void if Watson is injured “as a result of skydiving, hang gliding, rock or mountain climbing, racing of any kind including as a driver or passenger, motorcycling, use of any off-road or all-terrain vehicle, professional wrestling, boxing, use of firearms, scuba diving, jet skiing, surfing, bungee jumping, basketball, diving, and snow or water skiing.”

The team’s announcement of Watson’s re-injury says that he rolled his ankle in Miami. If he rolled his ankle by doing any of the things he is expressly prohibited from doing and the injury happened because of it, the Browns have an avenue for avoiding $92 million.

Even if the Browns can’t prove that Watson was engaging in activities that triggered a void of his guarantees, recent images on social media show him without a walking boot. Given the difficulty of rolling an ankle while in a walking boot, it’s possible that he wasn’t wearing a boot when he was supposed to be wearing a boot. If the team-specified rehab protocols required him to wear a boot, that could be another avenue for voiding the guarantees.
https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profo...llion-nil-payment-keeps-changing-the-nfl-game
For the Browns, here’s the question: Do they want to play hardball with Watson? If they do, the first step is to fully investigate what he was doing when he rolled his ankle. The second step is to assess whether he rolled his ankle while not wearing a walking boot when he possibly should have been.

With $92 million at stake, and given that the contract has to date been a disaster for the Browns, why wouldn’t they explore every possible strategy for legitimately avoiding the obligation? And, since they employ a chief strategy officer, wouldn’t it be Paul DePodesta’s job to strategize a path toward avoiding $92 million in cash and cap commitments to a player they’d undoubtedly cut if they could?

Given the magnitude of the remaining payments, a legal fight would be inevitable, if the Browns try to cut Watson off. And that opens the door for a settlement, with reduced guarantees and/or a reduced salary. Watson would have to decide whether to take an all-or-nothing risk in a grievance — or to manage the risk of losing by accepting less than he’s owed.

However it plays out, the Browns specifically stating that Watson rolled his ankle in Miami becomes a strong hint that they’re thinking about their options. As they should be.

Time will tell what they opt to do. Based on the facts as developed during the team’s investigation of how and where and when the ankle was rolled, the Browns might be able to get out from under the worst contract in NFL history.
 
steelbtexan said:
This would be awesome.

Then I hope more women come forward and break this perverts bank accounts.
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Look who he's listening too.. YoungBoy Never Broke Again 😂

Deshaun Watson is a moron.. and idiots and their money are soon parted. He's definitely one of those athletes you're going to hear about filing for bankruptcy shortly after retirement. I wonder how much of that money he's already spent? I'm sure Jelly Anus isn't cheap. She might've just cost him 92 million dollars
 
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Injury information including is his required time in a boot was over with and actual time necessary for rehab is essentially what I posted before. Other interesting information regarding contract and future implications.​


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Was the Deshaun Watson trade Jimmy Haslam’s doing? Will the Browns try to recoup some of the money? Mary Kay Cabot​

  • Updated: Jan. 12, 2025, 12:14 p.m.
  • |Published: Jan. 12, 2025, 5:31 a.m.

By Mary Kay Cabot, cleveland.com

CLEVELAND, Ohio — With Deshaun Watson undergoing surgery again Thursday to repair his re-ruptured right Achilles, questions abound about what it all means and where the Browns go from here.

What we know for sure is that the clock resets on his rehab, and that it will take him at least six months — possibly more — for him to get back on the practice field. If his surgeon, Dr. Bob Anderson in North Carolina, proceeds with even more caution this time, the rehab could take longer. As it stands, there’s a chance Watson could return sometime during training camp, but the Browns aren’t counting on him in 2025.



In their statement on Thursday, they made it clear that “Watson’s recovery time and return-to-play status is uncertain, and he will likely miss significant time during the 2025 season.”

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It sounds like they’re ready to move forward and essentially close the book on what will likely go down as the worst trade in the history of the NFL.
Here are some questions and answers about the Watson situation:

Q: Did Browns owner Jimmy Haslam initiate the Watson trade with Houston?​

A: No. Haslam didn’t initiate the trade with Houston, one that sent a net a five draft picks, including three first-rounders to the Texans. The Browns, as an organization, determined that they needed a Pro Bowl-caliber quarterback to get them to the Super Bowl, and that their 2018 No. 1 overall pick Baker Mayfield wasn’t the answer. The decision-makers, including GM Andrew Berry and coach Kevin Stefanski, collectively decided that Watson, a three-time Pro Bowler, would be an upgrade.
But when Watson decided during the four-team sweepstakes — Browns, Saints, Falcons and Panthers — that he didn’t want to come to Cleveland, Haslam stepped in and upped the ante to the $230 million contract, the first fully guaranteed pact in the history of the NFL. Watson jumped at it, and the deal was done.

As fate would have it, Watson has gone 9-10 in three seasons, and Mayfield has the Bucs in the playoffs with a chance to scare every team they face.

Q: Will the Browns go after some of the remaining $92 million now that Watson re-ruptured the Achilles?​

A: It’s doubtful that Watson was engaging in a prohibited activity when he rolled his ankle in Miami. The contract stipulates, according to Pro Football Talk’s Mike Florio, that it voids if Watson was injured “as a result of skydiving, hang gliding, rock or mountain climbing, racing of any kind including as a driver or passenger, motorcycling, use of any off-road or all-terrain vehicle, professional wrestling, boxing, use of firearms, scuba diving, jet skiing, surfing, bungee jumping, basketball, diving, and snow or water skiing.”
Granted, Watson had been rehabbing in sunny Miami since undergoing the surgery Oct. 25, but the notion of him jet skiing two months after major surgery jumps the shark.
The Browns made it clear in their statement on Friday that Watson, during his exit physical on Sunday, “complained of discomfort after rolling his ankle in Miami.”

What we don’t know yet is how or when he actually rolled it. Watson posted photos of himself on Instagram on Dec. 26 out of his walking boot for the first time with the caption Back on My Feet! MORE GLORY!” If Watson was posting such photos of himself, he undoubtedly had been given the green light to shed the boot by a member of his medical team. When it came to his recovery from the fractured shoulder, he followed the protocol closely even when he felt he could do more.
Nevertheless, sometime in the 10 days between then and his exit-physical on Jan. 5, he somehow rolled the ankle in Miami.
Cleveland.com had reported on Dec. 10 that Watson was rehabbing in Miami and Cleveland after undergoing surgery to repair the ruptured Achilles on Oct. 25 with Dr. Anderson. Most of the rehab took place in Miami, where Watson worked with his private physical therapist Billy Voltaire. Watson also purchased a home in Miami over a year ago.
The Browns undoubtedly would’ve liked Watson to spend more time rehabbing in Cleveland and engaging with his teammates, but he had their approval to train in Miami, and the rehab protocol was a joint effort between Anderson and the Browns medical staff.

Last year, when Watson underwent surgery to repair his fractured glenoid bone in Los Angeles, the Browns permitted him to rehab in L.A. under the guidance of his surgeon, Dr. Neal ElAttrache.
The Browns will surely do their diligence to get to the bottom of exactly what happened, but it’s doubtful Watson took himself out of the walking boot.

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Q: Will he still get all of the money?​

A: Watson is under contract for two more seasons — through 2026 — at an average of $46 million a year. He’s still due all of that money because the contract is fully guaranteed and only void for certain reasons, including the above activities.
Some sites have shown Watson enjoying time on a yacht with his girlfriend, Jilly Anais, but at least some of those photos and videos were from an offseason trip to Croatia.
Besides, boating is not a prohibited activity per his contract. With Watson rupturing his Achilles Oct. 20 vs. the Bengals, the Browns understand that this was a football injury, and the re-tear is unlikely to get them off the hook.

Q: What about insurance?​

A: One way the Browns might get some money back is in the form of an insurance policy against an injury of this magnitude. The Browns likely protected themselves in this way, and could have something to show for their troubles. Watson has started only 19 of 51 possible games over the past three seasons, with 20 of those 32 absences due to injury.

Q: What did his recent contract restructure do?​

A: Watson’s contract restructure last month added two more “void” or “ghost” years to the deal in which to spread out the enormous cap hits. The void years now go through 2030. If the Browns decide to part ways with Watson after this season, they’ll still have a $73 million dead cap charge in 2026, but they might be able to live with that. As it stands, his cap charges for 2025 and 2026 are $73 million, but the Browns will restructure again this season to lower the cap hit and give him another restructure bonus. He’ll get the $230 million one way or the other. It’s just a matter of when.

Q: Will he rehab in Cleveland?​

A: Watson will probably rehab in Miami again, but will likely return to Cleveland once he’s ready to practice, which could be sometime during camp. In the meantime, the Browns will find another starting quarterback or two for 2025, through the draft, free agency or a trade. Watson was unlikely to win the starting job out of camp even before the setback as worked his way back from the original surgery. If anything, it impacts their backup job in 2025.
 
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