Sweech
Onside Kick Specialist
So were we letting them take home crates of gatorade? Why was JJo noticing it as a big difference compared to there?
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cland
Rookie
Hehe, this discussion reminds me of "Moneyball," where the players had to pay for vending machines. I don't have any facts, but as a short-term Cincinnatian in the late 90s, I have no problem believing that they milked the players. Both Mike Brown and the Cincinnati Reds Marge Schott were well known for being penny-pinchers (to put it nicely.)
paycheck71
Hall of Fame
I saw a list somewhere, either on this board or somewhere else on the internet, recently that ranked net worth of all NFL owners. Cinci is by far the "poorest."
The difference was about far more than just gatorade
Mark Davis is no better than neck and neck with him..
Which should be apparent by his haircut..
TexanBorn51
All Pro
Good evening Texans
So happen to read here about the tail end of NFL owners net worth. Allow me to ask cuz idnk the only team I understand that is owned by the fans are the Green Bay Packers no? So then who would be the owner in this situation? js
So happen to read here about the tail end of NFL owners net worth. Allow me to ask cuz idnk the only team I understand that is owned by the fans are the Green Bay Packers no? So then who would be the owner in this situation? js
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paycheck71
Hall of Fame
I don't think the "net worth" scenario applies to GB.
TexanBorn51
All Pro
Always wondered yet not reach into it why out of all the city teams that only one is owned by the fans. Pros and cons?
paycheck71
Hall of Fame
Goes back to the beginnings of football and GB in particular. Don't know the specifics of their history, I'm sure it's out there on the internet, but I suspect at some point, the team wasn't profitable, nobody wanted to own it, so the community took it over.
TexanBorn51
All Pro
ikr I thinks so but do not know tho will look it's all new to me. Just a thought my friend. I did have a best friend pass away big time Packers fan and raised up there but was born in Texas then I met him. Also a Cubs fan lived and died for both. RIP. That's when I learned about them the citizens owning the team. Very proud of it.
badboy
Hall of Fame
If you're interested, I would suggest you do a little internet research as it is a little bit more complicated than that. As I understand, some fans own stock that is good to hang on the wall only and has no True Value other than bragging rights.
I am positive that by Monday you will have others who have more knowledge than I give you information. That's one good thing about this place.
badboy
Hall of Fame
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Porky
Hall of Fame
If the Packers operate like any other public company, they would likely be listed on an exchange. They could also choose to not be listed which makes them over the counter. Still, the SEC requires all public companies to file quarterly and annual balance sheets. As such, if the Pack fall under that requirement, fans and shareholders can see what the net worth of the team is along with income, expenses and P&L. It’s likely more vanity than an actual investment, and I have no idea how much a share costs or how to purchase it. I’ve never seen a listing for it on any major stock exchange like the Nasdaq or NYSE.
FuzzyLogic
Mathematically Possible
A list of NFL owner's net worth if anyone is interested.
Owner Net Worth 2024
I would gladly be the 'poorest' person on this list.
Owner Net Worth 2024
I would gladly be the 'poorest' person on this list.
badboy
Hall of Fame
IIRC, several years ago it was decided that no new stock would be issued. Those who possessed shares could pass them on.
Texansballer74
The Marine
It only stops at the Bengals in which is 31st.
FuzzyLogic
Mathematically Possible
Hey TB, not sure I follow? Do you only see the Bengals then not the rest of the list? Do you not have the 'Read More' button which expands the rest of the list?
Texansballer74
The Marine
Yes I only seen the Bengals and Packers on that website. The rest were ads.
Try this link
https://www.profootballnetwork.com/nfl-richest-owners-net-worth-ranked/
19) Janice McNair, Houston Texans
Janice McNair, the widow of Robert (Bob) McNair, inherited her late husband’s 80% stake in the Houston Texans following his passing in 2018.In 1999, Bob sold Cogen Technologies — the largest privately owned energy cogeneration company in the world at the time — to Enron for $1.5 billion. After amassing his fortune, McNair was determined to bring an NFL team back to Houston after the Oilers left for Tennessee, and he did just that in 2002.
Net worth: $5.6 billion
FuzzyLogic
Mathematically Possible
In case the link still isn't working, here is the content of the article - https://www.profootballnetwork.com/nfl-richest-owners-net-worth-ranked/
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It’s no secret that to own an NFL team, you need to have deep pockets and several commas in your bank account. Based on net worth, who are the NFL’s richest owners? Where does the newest owner, Josh Harris, rank? Let’s take a look at all 32 owners.
With that said, they are one of the wealthiest teams in the NFL, regardless of the dynamic.
Net worth: N/A
Brown has spent most of his adult life working within the organization, and his net worth of $925 million is based on a Forbes report from 2015. However, he’s not currently listed on the Real-Time Billionaires List.
Net worth: $925 million
Net worth: $1.2 billion
Virginia’s late father, George Halas, bought the Chicago Bears three years before she was born in 1920. McCaskey, 101, is the oldest owner in the league.
Net worth: $1.3 billion
The Wilfs’ companies own more than 100 shopping centers and 90,000 apartment units around the country. The Vikings are just another piece of their impressive portfolio.
Net worth: $1.3 billion
Net worth: $1.4 billion
Net worth: $2 billion
Hamp took over as principal owner of the Detroit Lions in June 2020 after her mother, Martha Firestone Ford, stepped down after leading the organization.
MORE: How Lions Owner Sheila Ford Hamp Made Her Fortune
The Ford family is worth $2 billion, according to Forbes, of which Hamp is the matriarch.
Net worth: $2 billion
Tisch is a movie producer and the son of Bob Tisch, co-founder of the Loews Corporation, which bought a 50% stake in the team in 1991 and has maintained the split since.
Combined, Mara and Tisch are worth at least $2.1 billion.
Net worth: Mara – $500 million, Tisch – $1.6 billion
Mark has worked exclusively for the Raiders throughout his adult life, including stints in the equipment department and retail sales. Now, he finds himself at the top of the organization.
Net worth: $2.3 billion
After failing to secure a new stadium in San Diego, Dean Spanos moved the Chargers to Los Angeles, where they are currently situated. The team is owned by the family, which, as a whole, is worth $2.4 billion.
Net worth: $2.4 billion
Robert initially bought the Los Angeles Rams in 1972 for $19 million but traded the team to Carroll Rosenbloom in exchange for the Baltimore Colts and has since controlled the Colts organization as we know it.
Net worth: $4.4 billion
Having initially tried to purchase the Patriots in 1993, Lurie purchased the Philadelphia Eagles in May 1994 for $195 million and has been in control of the franchise ever since.
Net worth: $4.6 billion
In 1999, Bob sold Cogen Technologies — the largest privately owned energy cogeneration company in the world at the time — to Enron for $1.5 billion. After amassing his fortune, McNair was determined to bring an NFL team back to Houston after the Oilers left for Tennessee, and he did just that in 2002.
Net worth: $5.6 billion
Denise also presided over the Pittsburgh Penguins during their 1990-1991 championship season, making her the third woman to serve as president of a Stanley Cup-winning team, adding to her impressive business résumé.
Net worth: $5.8 billion
In 2018, Gayle inherited the New Orleans Saints and New Orleans Pelicans following Tom’s passing.
Net worth: $6.1 billion
In 2011, they purchased the Buffalo Sabres for $189 million. In 2014, they bought the Buffalo Bills for $1.4 billion, outbidding groups led by former President Donald Trump and Bon Jovi.
Net worth: $6.8 billion
In the deal, he had the option to purchase the remaining 51% for $325 million in 2004 from Art Modell, which he exercised, setting up the power dynamic that Bisciotti currently oversees.
Net worth: $7.1 billion
Net worth: $8 billion
Net worth: $8.4 billion
Harris stepped down from day-to-day duties at Apollo in 2021. In September 2022, he founded a new asset management firm called 26North, which reportedly has more than $5 billion in assets under its control. In addition to owning the Commanders, he’s also the managing partner of the Philadelphia 76ers in the NBA and New Jersey Devils in the NHL.
Net worth: $8.6 billion
At the time of his passing in 2014, Glazer owned a diverse portfolio of investments, including food service equipment, food packaging and supplies, marine protein, broadcasting, health care, property, banking, natural gas and oil, stocks, and bonds. His family inherited the team after his passing.
Net worth: $10 billion
Ross also owns the Miami Dolphins and has stakes in Equinox Fitness, SoulCycle, and numerous restaurant chains.
Net worth: $10.1 billion
He purchased the New England Patriots in 1994 for $172 million, and they have grown into one of the most popular and successful sports franchises.
Net worth: $11.1 billion
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Khan purchased the Jacksonville Jaguars in 2012. Now, he and his son, Tony, are front and center for the day-to-day operations of the Jaguars.
Net worth: $12.2 billion
Back in 1989, Jones bought the Cowboys for $150 million, and today the franchise is worth $9 billion — the highest valuation of any sports team in the world. Jones has become one of the most powerful (and polarizing) owners in all of sports.
Net worth: $13.8 billion
The Johnson family was reported to be worth $16 billion in 2024.
Net worth: $16 billion
He owns some 60 million square feet of real estate, more than 1.5 million acres of ranches across the U.S. and Canada, and is married to Ann Walton, the daughter of late Walmart co-founder Bud Walton.
MORE: Get To Know Los Angeles Rams Owner Stan Kroenke
Kroenke is one of the biggest powers in sports, with an impressive catalogue of teams under his control.
Net worth: $16.2 billion
Jody is currently the chairwoman of the Seahawks. Her family’s estimated net worth is around $20.3 billion.
Net worth: $20.3 billion
Net worth: $20.6 billion
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They also own FC Dallas of MLS and a minority stake in the Chicago Bulls. Lamar Hunt helped launch the American Football League, and their family played a huge part in the history of the game we know and love.
Forbes estimates the Hunt family’s wealth to be $24.8 billion.
Net worth: $24.8 billion
Walton is considered the richest owner in the NFL by net worth. According to Forbes, Walton’s net worth is $77.4 billion, which makes him more than twice as rich as any of the other NFL ownership groups.
Net worth: $77.4 billion
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It’s no secret that to own an NFL team, you need to have deep pockets and several commas in your bank account. Based on net worth, who are the NFL’s richest owners? Where does the newest owner, Josh Harris, rank? Let’s take a look at all 32 owners.
Richest NFL Owners Ranked by Net Worth
Here’s how the NFL’s 32 owners stack up in terms of their net worth, according to Forbes’ Real-Time Billionaires List. If an owner is not listed on the Forbes list, we have sought other sources to estimate their net worth for a complete picture across the league.32) Green Bay Packers
Right off the bat, this is a bit of a technicality. The Green Bay Packers are the only team that doesn’t have a traditional “owner.” Instead, they sell stock in the Packers, allowing fans to become pseudo-owners and shareholders.With that said, they are one of the wealthiest teams in the NFL, regardless of the dynamic.
Net worth: N/A
31) Mike Brown, Cincinnati Bengals
Mike Brown’s father, Paul Brown, was the original coach of the Cleveland Browns and the founder of the Cincinnati Bengals in 1968. Mike took control of the Bengals after his father passed away in August 1991.Brown has spent most of his adult life working within the organization, and his net worth of $925 million is based on a Forbes report from 2015. However, he’s not currently listed on the Real-Time Billionaires List.
Net worth: $925 million
30) Art Rooney II, Pittsburgh Steelers
Art Rooney II’s grandfather, Art Rooney Sr., founded the Pittsburgh Steelers in 1933. The Rooneys have made the majority of their wealth from the team rather than outside funds or other business ventures. The Rooney family is one of the most well-respected families in the NFL.Net worth: $1.2 billion
T-28) Virginia Halas McCaskey, Chicago Bears
Much like the Rooneys, the Halas/McCaskey family has made its wealth via owning and running their NFL team, which they’ve done for a very long time.Virginia’s late father, George Halas, bought the Chicago Bears three years before she was born in 1920. McCaskey, 101, is the oldest owner in the league.
Net worth: $1.3 billion
T-28) Zygi Wilf, Minnesota Vikings
The Wilf family business is Garden Homes, a nationwide leader in retail, commercial, and private residential development. Zygi began working as an attorney before joining the family business and becoming head of one of its affiliates, Garden Commercial Properties.The Wilfs’ companies own more than 100 shopping centers and 90,000 apartment units around the country. The Vikings are just another piece of their impressive portfolio.
Net worth: $1.3 billion
27) Michael Bidwill, Arizona Cardinals
Similar to the Steelers and Bears, the Arizona Cardinals are a family-run business. Michael Bidwill’s grandfather, Charles Bidwill, bought the team in 1932. Michael was a federal prosecutor before he joined the Cardinals in 1996.Net worth: $1.4 billion
T-25) Amy Adams Strunk, Tennessee Titans
Amy Adams Strunk’s father, Bud, was one of the founders of the AFL and the Houston Oilers, which became the Tennessee Titans. Bud Adams made his money in the petroleum business before delving into football. Adams Strunk also founded Kenada Farms and the Little River Oil and Gas Company.Net worth: $2 billion
T-25) Sheila Ford Hamp, Detroit Lions
A descendant of Henry Ford, Sheila Ford Hamp’s family runs the massive car powerhouse, Ford Motor Company, headquartered in Michigan.Hamp took over as principal owner of the Detroit Lions in June 2020 after her mother, Martha Firestone Ford, stepped down after leading the organization.
MORE: How Lions Owner Sheila Ford Hamp Made Her Fortune
The Ford family is worth $2 billion, according to Forbes, of which Hamp is the matriarch.
Net worth: $2 billion
24) John Mara and Steve Tisch, New York Giants
The Giants’ situation is a bit unique. The team is co-owned by John Mara and Steve Tisch with a 50-50 share. Mara is a former labor lawyer and the grandson of original team investor Timothy Mara, as well as the oldest son of Wellington Mara.Tisch is a movie producer and the son of Bob Tisch, co-founder of the Loews Corporation, which bought a 50% stake in the team in 1991 and has maintained the split since.
Combined, Mara and Tisch are worth at least $2.1 billion.
Net worth: Mara – $500 million, Tisch – $1.6 billion
23) Mark Davis, Las Vegas Raiders
Mark and his mother, Carol Davis, inherited the Las Vegas Raiders after Al Davis passed away in October 2011.Mark has worked exclusively for the Raiders throughout his adult life, including stints in the equipment department and retail sales. Now, he finds himself at the top of the organization.
Net worth: $2.3 billion
22) Dean Spanos, Los Angeles Chargers
In 1960, Dean’s father, Alex, founded A.G. Spanos Companies, one of the most prominent apartment developers in the country. The company remains among America’s largest family-owned businesses.After failing to secure a new stadium in San Diego, Dean Spanos moved the Chargers to Los Angeles, where they are currently situated. The team is owned by the family, which, as a whole, is worth $2.4 billion.
Net worth: $2.4 billion
21) Jim Irsay, Indianapolis Colts
Jim Irsay’s father, Robert, was a Chicago-based industrialist who built his fortune mostly on various heating and air conditioning businesses. Jim, the current owner of the Indianapolis Colts, inherited the team and his father’s wealth when the latter passed away in 1997.Robert initially bought the Los Angeles Rams in 1972 for $19 million but traded the team to Carroll Rosenbloom in exchange for the Baltimore Colts and has since controlled the Colts organization as we know it.
Net worth: $4.4 billion
20) Jeffrey Lurie, Philadelphia Eagles
In 1983, Jeffrey Lurie joined General Cinema Corporation, a major film company founded by his grandfather, Philip Smith, and headed by his uncle, Richard A. Smith. He then founded Chestnut Hill Productions in 1985, which produced a string of Hollywood movies and TV shows.Having initially tried to purchase the Patriots in 1993, Lurie purchased the Philadelphia Eagles in May 1994 for $195 million and has been in control of the franchise ever since.
Net worth: $4.6 billion
19) Janice McNair, Houston Texans
Janice McNair, the widow of Robert (Bob) McNair, inherited her late husband’s 80% stake in the Houston Texans following his passing in 2018.In 1999, Bob sold Cogen Technologies — the largest privately owned energy cogeneration company in the world at the time — to Enron for $1.5 billion. After amassing his fortune, McNair was determined to bring an NFL team back to Houston after the Oilers left for Tennessee, and he did just that in 2002.
Net worth: $5.6 billion
18) Denise DeBartolo York and Jed York, San Francisco 49ers
Denise is the granddaughter of Edward J. DeBartolo Sr., an Ohio-based construction mogul and commercial real estate developer who purchased the San Francisco 49ers in 1977.Denise also presided over the Pittsburgh Penguins during their 1990-1991 championship season, making her the third woman to serve as president of a Stanley Cup-winning team, adding to her impressive business résumé.
Net worth: $5.8 billion
17) Gayle Benson, New Orleans Saints
Gayle married Tom Benson in 2004. Tom was a businessman and owner of multiple car dealerships. He eventually purchased several small Southern banks and formed Benson Financial, which he sold to Norwest Corporation in 1996.In 2018, Gayle inherited the New Orleans Saints and New Orleans Pelicans following Tom’s passing.
Net worth: $6.1 billion
16) Kim and Terry Pegula, Buffalo Bills
Terry Pegula made his fortunes in the fracking industry. He sold the bulk of the assets of his company, East Resources, to Royal Dutch Shell in 2010 for $4.7 billion. Terry and his wife Kim married in 1993 and have been in business dealings together ever since.In 2011, they purchased the Buffalo Sabres for $189 million. In 2014, they bought the Buffalo Bills for $1.4 billion, outbidding groups led by former President Donald Trump and Bon Jovi.
Net worth: $6.8 billion
15) Steve Bisciotti, Baltimore Ravens
Steve and his cousin, fellow billionaire Jim Davis, started what is now called Allegis Group in 1983 and turned it into the largest staffing firm in the U.S. In 2000, Bisciotti purchased 49% of the Baltimore Ravens following the approval of NFL owners.In the deal, he had the option to purchase the remaining 51% for $325 million in 2004 from Art Modell, which he exercised, setting up the power dynamic that Bisciotti currently oversees.
Net worth: $7.1 billion
14) Jimmy and Dee Haslam, Cleveland Browns
Jimmy Haslam is the CEO of Pilot Flying J, a company his father Jim founded in 1958. Haslam purchased a small stake in the Steelers in 2008 before purchasing the Cleveland Browns for $990 million in 2012. His brother, Bill, was the governor of Tennessee from 2011 to 2019.Net worth: $8 billion
13) Arthur Blank, Atlanta Falcons
Arthur Blank and Bernie Marcus co-founded Home Depot in 1978 after being fired from their jobs at a regional hardware store. Blank retired as Home Depot’s co-chairman in 2001 and purchased the Atlanta Falcons in 2002 for $545 million, and that has been his main operation control for the last 21 years.Net worth: $8.4 billion
12) Josh Harris, Washington Commanders
After graduating from Penn and Harvard, Josh Harris worked in mergers and acquisitions at Drexel Burnham Lambert before co-founding the alternative investment firm Apollo Global Management alongside billionaires Mark Rowan and Leon Black in 1990.Harris stepped down from day-to-day duties at Apollo in 2021. In September 2022, he founded a new asset management firm called 26North, which reportedly has more than $5 billion in assets under its control. In addition to owning the Commanders, he’s also the managing partner of the Philadelphia 76ers in the NBA and New Jersey Devils in the NHL.
Net worth: $8.6 billion
11) Glazer Family, Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Malcolm Glazer was a real estate and business mogul who purchased the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in 1995. The Glazers also owned Manchester United before selling their shares in 2021, but now, they’re mainly focused on the NFL and their Buccaneers franchise.At the time of his passing in 2014, Glazer owned a diverse portfolio of investments, including food service equipment, food packaging and supplies, marine protein, broadcasting, health care, property, banking, natural gas and oil, stocks, and bonds. His family inherited the team after his passing.
Net worth: $10 billion
10) Stephen Ross, Miami Dolphins
Stephen Ross was a tax attorney before founding Related Companies in 1972 as an affordable housing developer. Related has developed or acquired $60 billion worth of properties since its inception.Ross also owns the Miami Dolphins and has stakes in Equinox Fitness, SoulCycle, and numerous restaurant chains.
Net worth: $10.1 billion
9) Robert Kraft, New England Patriots
Robert Kraft sold newspapers growing up and then amassed a fortune as the owner of paper and packaging companies Rand-Whitney and International Forest Products.He purchased the New England Patriots in 1994 for $172 million, and they have grown into one of the most popular and successful sports franchises.
Net worth: $11.1 billion
8) Shahid Khan, Jacksonville Jaguars
Shahid Khan is an engineer who bought Illinois-based Flex-N-Gate, an auto parts supplier, in 1980. His design for a one-piece truck bumper was key to his success, and the company now has 69 plants and more than 26,000 employees worldwide.MORE: Check Out Shahid Khan’s $200 Million Superyacht
Khan purchased the Jacksonville Jaguars in 2012. Now, he and his son, Tony, are front and center for the day-to-day operations of the Jaguars.
Net worth: $12.2 billion
7) Jerry Jones, Dallas Cowboys
Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones amassed his fortune in oil drilling with the Arkansas-based company, Jones Oil and Land Lease. He struck oil in 12 of his first 13 wells, with the first yielding $4 million in oil, according to the book “The Dallas Cowboys: The Outrageous History of the Biggest, Loudest, Most Hated, Best Loved Football Team in America.”Back in 1989, Jones bought the Cowboys for $150 million, and today the franchise is worth $9 billion — the highest valuation of any sports team in the world. Jones has become one of the most powerful (and polarizing) owners in all of sports.
Net worth: $13.8 billion
6) Johnson Family, New York Jets
Woody and Christopher Johnson are businessmen and owners of the New York Jets. They are great-grandsons of Robert Wood Johnson and heirs to the Johnson & Johnson empire.The Johnson family was reported to be worth $16 billion in 2024.
Net worth: $16 billion
5) Stan Kroenke, Los Angeles Rams
Stan Kroenke is a real estate magnate who also owns the Denver Nuggets, Colorado Avalanche, Colorado Rapids, and the Arsenal Football Club in England.He owns some 60 million square feet of real estate, more than 1.5 million acres of ranches across the U.S. and Canada, and is married to Ann Walton, the daughter of late Walmart co-founder Bud Walton.
MORE: Get To Know Los Angeles Rams Owner Stan Kroenke
Kroenke is one of the biggest powers in sports, with an impressive catalogue of teams under his control.
Net worth: $16.2 billion
4) Jody Allen and the Paul G. Allen Trust, Seattle Seahawks
Jody and Paul Allen were once considered the richest owners in the NFL. Paul Allen, who passed away in 2018, co-founded Microsoft with Bill Gates. At the time of his passing, he owned the Seattle Seahawks and Portland Trail Blazers, and he was part-owner of the Seattle Sounders.Jody is currently the chairwoman of the Seahawks. Her family’s estimated net worth is around $20.3 billion.
Net worth: $20.3 billion
3) David Tepper, Carolina Panthers
In 2018, David Tepper bought the Carolina Panthers for $2.8 billion. Tepper is a hedge fund manager. His Appaloosa Management hedge fund firm now manages nearly $13 billion in assets. He recently surpassed the Allen family on this list.Net worth: $20.6 billion
2) Hunt Family, Kansas City Chiefs
The Hunts are one of the wealthiest families in America. Clark Hunt, CEO of the Kansas City Chiefs, is the son of Lamar Hunt, who was one of H.L. Hunt’s 14 children. The family remains active in the oil and gas businesses, as well as in real estate.KEEP READING: Who Is Gracie Hunt? Meet the Kansas City Chiefs Heiress
They also own FC Dallas of MLS and a minority stake in the Chicago Bulls. Lamar Hunt helped launch the American Football League, and their family played a huge part in the history of the game we know and love.
Forbes estimates the Hunt family’s wealth to be $24.8 billion.
Net worth: $24.8 billion
Who Is the Richest NFL Owner?
The Denver Broncos have been sold to the Walton-Penner ownership group. The group led by Walmart heir Rob Walton, Greg Penner, and Carrie Walton Penner, and including limited partners Mellody Hobson, Condoleezza Rice, and Lewis Hamilton, will be the Broncos’ first new owners in 38 years.Walton is considered the richest owner in the NFL by net worth. According to Forbes, Walton’s net worth is $77.4 billion, which makes him more than twice as rich as any of the other NFL ownership groups.
Net worth: $77.4 billion
Texansballer74
The Marine
Prayers for the Jones’s family, friends, teammates and his fans.
Former NFL wide receiver Jacoby Jones, a Pro Bowler and Super Bowl champion with the Baltimore Ravens, died overnight on Saturday in his Houston-area home, according to multiple reports. Jones, who celebrated his birthday on July 11, had just turned 40. A cause of death is not immediately clear.
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Former NFL wide receiver Jacoby Jones, a Pro Bowler and Super Bowl champion with the Baltimore Ravens, died overnight on Saturday in his Houston-area home, according to multiple reports. Jones, who celebrated his birthday on July 11, had just turned 40. A cause of death is not immediately clear.
Former NFL wide receiver Jacoby Jones, a standout with the Texans and Ravens, dies at age 40
Jones, known for the Mile High Miracle and his two touchdowns for the Ravens in Super Bowl XLVII, died at home days after his 40th birthday.
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Texansballer74
The Marine
Texansballer74
The Marine
Man we’ll find all that out here in a few weeks. We really can’t gauge his improvement from mini camp. Once the pads goes on and they get give some live preseason action against other teams. Then we should be able to see if he improved or not.
I don't think he's a penciled in starter.
badboy
Hall of Fame
He may be referring to ESPN's depth chart which shows To'oTo'o as a starter.
Does that sound right to you?
badboy
Hall of Fame
Based on roster in 4-3 set up.. sure. I would consider Jerry Hughes also. I think more 5-2.
TexanBorn51
All Pro
Wow amazing!
I didn't see anything from To'o to think he should be "penciled" in as a starter. The 3rd LB position is wide open. If there is a favorite I'd think it would be Hansen
badboy
Hall of Fame
I think it is just semantics and I do not know how ESPN chose which player to put where. Yes we all know, the depth chart will be better known closer to game one
TexansBull
Hall of Fame
I can’t help but feel that this season a has a goal, at the minimum to be in the AFC Championship game or bust.
Or did I miss the memo and its Super Bowl appearance or bust?
Or did I miss the memo and its Super Bowl appearance or bust?
badboy
Hall of Fame
I am thinking that you missed the memo but not necessarily saying it's a bust if we don't make it there. Everyone get on board the soul [Super Bowl] train.
Bust as in get rid of players, coaches, and management? More like Super Bowl and keep going after Super Bowls.
TexansBull
Hall of Fame
Bust as in not a year that lived up to expectations. What you are referring to is called a “blow it up” situation.
The expectations for the Texans from now on is the Super Bowl. That will be the case no matter the results this year. "Or bust"? Doesn't mean anything.
Texansballer74
The Marine
I would say it’s neither because they’re still trying to build their team up. If we make it to the AFC Championship game or even the Superbowl, that will be the icing on the cake.
cland
Rookie
This is where I'm at. More than anything, the health of the team can absolutely derail the best laid plans. I think a reasonable expectation is to expect a playoff team that can compete when they get there. Anything higher than that is unfair to DeMeco in his 2nd year.
Thorn
Dirty Old Man
The Texans are a better team this year, they also have a tougher schedule to contend with. It's entirely possible the Texans win the AFC South with the same amount of wins as they did last year. I think they are capable of a bit better than that. But for whatever reason, not winning the useless AFC South is something that just shouldn't happen without a major catastrophe. If they can't beat those other three, then I'd be real surprised.
Porky
Hall of Fame
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I think you are selling the south short. Steichen is a great coach, and if AR 15 stays healthy, they can win this division. The health question is a big one, but all teams have if’s, ands, and buts to deal with.
The Jags are also capable of winning this division. Peterson is a good HC, although a bit under Ryans and Steichen on my list. They added some nice pieces, and like the Colts have a plus running game. The QB is somewhat inconsistent but he’s certainly good enough to lead a good team to the playoffs.
The Titans could be sneaky good IF their QB shows major growth in year 2 and they actually landed a lot of quality FA’s and had a nice draft. I’m not buying into Levis at this point….but to dismiss them out of hand is a mistake. They can at least be a thorn (get it) in the south’s side.
That said, I’ve got Texans, Colts, Jags and Titans in that order in a highly competitive division. There are 3 teams capable of taking this, and a darkhorse run by the Tits cannot be ruled out. People assuming this is going to be a cakewalk are likely to be disappointed imho.
I think you are selling the south short. Steichen is a great coach, and if AR 15 stays healthy, they can win this division. The health question is a big one, but all teams have if’s, ands, and buts to deal with.
The Jags are also capable of winning this division. Peterson is a good HC, although a bit under Ryans and Steichen on my list. They added some nice pieces, and like the Colts have a plus running game. The QB is somewhat inconsistent but he’s certainly good enough to lead a good team to the playoffs.
The Titans could be sneaky good IF their QB shows major growth in year 2 and they actually landed a lot of quality FA’s and had a nice draft. I’m not buying into Levis at this point….but to dismiss them out of hand is a mistake. They can at least be a thorn (get it) in the south’s side.
That said, I’ve got Texans, Colts, Jags and Titans in that order in a highly competitive division. There are 3 teams capable of taking this, and a darkhorse run by the Tits cannot be ruled out. People assuming this is going to be a cakewalk are likely to be disappointed imho.
TexansBull
Hall of Fame
I don’t see the point in setting expectations or goals and not being or holding people accountable.
That’s what it sounds like you are doing. Setting expectations but not willing to hold the team accountable.
If we are giving out participation ribbons then let’s go ahead and say “ThE eXpEctAtioNs FoR tHE TeXanS fROm NoW oN is ThE sUpeR BowL” because if they don’t hit it apparently we can just shrug it off.
This is a safe area now for the Texans.
TexansBull
Hall of Fame
Uh - the rebuild is done. What is being built?
Last year we were a game out of the AFC Championship ship game. With a rookie QB. We should be a better team with better results. Making it to the AFC Championship game isn’t icing on the cake. At a minimum we should have that better team and make it there (barring the injury bug and catastrophes).
Bluehen Texan
Waterboy
There are 31 other teams vying for the same trophy and only one can win. Even if every single team somehow had the same coach and players there would still only be only 1 Super Bowl winner. The ball is oddly shaped and not every moment can be predicted. Getting close and missing doesn’t constitute huge changes. We are at a point where most of the controllable factors are favorable. This team is capable of winning it all. Missed opportunities don’t equal start all over. Continue to tweak. Continue to grind.
TheRealJoker V2
Veteran
This is the first time since the 2011 Texans while Schaub was healthy that I believed the Texans could win any game they played. I hope this holds up when the games start.
Like they say, haters gonna hate. But let's wait for something to hate on, first.
And how exactly would you “hold the team accountable?”
OK. How many teams do you believe have a better chance at winning the Super Bowl than the Texans? You don't need to list the teams, just the number of teams.