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CJ Stroud year 2

Do you believe in the Madden Curse? If so, bad things may be coming for the Texans QB.

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C.J. Stroud
Houston Texans · QB
Stroud's NFL résumé obviously isn't as lengthy as those of many other notable signal-callers yet to grace the cover, but the 22-year-old immediately catapulted himself into superstardom with a transcendent debut campaign. There's also precedent for reigning Offensive Rookie of the Year winners receiving the honor, with Vince Young getting the nod in the summer of 2007 and Odell Beckham Jr. following suit in the summer of 2015. Stroud, who threw for 4,108 yards and 23 touchdowns (against just five interceptions), was arguably more prolific than both. He set the single-game rookie passing record (470 yards), led the league in passing yards per game (273.9) and had the best interception percentage (1.0) of any qualifying quarterback, reviving the Texans franchise with a division title and an emphatic playoff win. Plus, Year 2 could be even better, as Houston has set up Stroud to eviscerate all who oppose him after going all in on the offseason with bold moves like the trade for Pro Bowl WR Stefon Diggs.
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C.J. Stroud is the winner of the Pro Football Writers Association Good Guy Award for 2024.

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Houston Texans quarterback C.J. Stroud, who was praised for his dealings with local and national media during the previous season, has been selected as the 2024 Good Guy Award winner by the Professional Football Writers of America (PFWA).

"First and foremost, I want to give all glory and praise to my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. It's a blessing to be recognized as the PFWA Good Guy Award winner, and it stands out to me because it's more of an award that embodies someone's character rather than the stats they compile on the field," Stroud said. "I appreciate the job the media has and thank them for choosing me as someone who is deserving of this honor. A special shoutout to the other very deserving players who were nominated and those that won before me." – Texans QB C.J. Stroud
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The Good Guy Award is given to an NFL player for his qualities and professional style in helping pro football writers do their jobs. The award has been presented annually by the PFWA since 2005.
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thunderkyss said:
I remember when Charger fans were feeling similarly about Herbert & rightfully so.

But their future didn't turn out anywhere close to where they thought it would.
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This is still TBD now that they have a real HC. I don't expect much from them this year. But 2025 they should be really good. Unfortunately Herbert is going to eat up t9 much cap for them to win a SB.
 
badboy said:
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Houston Texans' QB CJ Stroud to Have Full Control Calling Plays in 2024 Season

The Houston Texans started their 2023 NFL campaign with a 3-4 record, which was fitting given the situation. The team had a rookie quarterback in CJ Stroud -- w
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I think "full-control" might be a misnomer. My understanding with the Shanahan system is that each play has options and alerts that can be checked into to handle defensive alignments (ie. man-zone) and hot routes to handle blitzes. Some plays can be switched from pass to run (or vice-versa) as well, particularly in the red-zone. That's a little different than switching a play to a completely different one at the line of scrimmage (full-control). In today's NFL even the most experienced QBs rarely have that type of control. In some offenses, two plays are called in the huddle and the QB can opt for one or the other, but I don't believe that's the case in the Shanahan offense.
 
NFL.com has Stroud among their 8 "dark horse" candidates for MVP in 2024.

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C.J. Stroud
Houston Texans · QB
Stroud likely won't be a dark horse much longer, if he even counts as one at all now following a dynamic rookie season in which he overcame a shuffled offensive line and absences from each member of a superb group of pass catchers. How could Stroud make the leap from 2023 Offensive Rookie of the Year to MVP in just one season? The addition of Stefon Diggs to the cast of weapons will help. Diggs has had six straight 1,000 yard receiving seasons. He scored eight touchdowns in a diminished role in Buffalo in 2023, but he still has the route-running ability and the hands to give Stroud the big-moment security that only a veteran like him can bring. Stroud is already on the MVP radar. Big play in the Texans' slate of prime-time games will elevate him into the conversation quickly, and he will probably stay there for years to come.
 
cland said:
I think "full-control" might be a misnomer. My understanding with the Shanahan system is that each play has options and alerts that can be checked into to handle defensive alignments (ie. man-zone) and hot routes to handle blitzes. Some plays can be switched from pass to run (or vice-versa) as well, particularly in the red-zone. That's a little different than switching a play to a completely different one at the line of scrimmage (full-control). In today's NFL even the most experienced QBs rarely have that type of control. In some offenses, two plays are called in the huddle and the QB can opt for one or the other, but I don't believe that's the case in the Shanahan offense.
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For the most part that is true, but one thing about the Shanahan/Kubiak system and the disciples is they all have their own spin on things and do things their own way. There aren't really any hard and fast rules that they all adhere to. What you describe is likely the way things are run, but CJ does potentially have the ability to adjust singular routes and even protections as well.
 
Sweech said:
For the most part that is true, but one thing about the Shanahan/Kubiak system and the disciples is they all have their own spin on things and do things their own way. There aren't really any hard and fast rules that they all adhere to. What you describe is likely the way things are run, but CJ does potentially have the ability to adjust singular routes and even protections as well.
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I remember the story where CJ and Schultz pitched a 'fake hook' route to Slowik, he approved and then scored a TD with it. I agree with the (lack of) hard and fast rules comment. It really just comes down to the QB and OC being on the same page.

In terms of pass-pro I actually don't remember if the QB or the center assigns the Mike. Anyone recall?
 
cland said:
I remember the story where CJ and Schultz pitched a 'fake hook' route to Slowik, he approved and then scored a TD with it. I agree with the (lack of) hard and fast rules comment. It really just comes down to the QB and OC being on the same page.

In terms of pass-pro I actually don't remember if the QB or the center assigns the Mike. Anyone recall?
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Historically in the system the C calls protections and that's what they did last year. I do believe the QB can make adjustments or point something out if he sees a blitzer though.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
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Here comes the next one!

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How Snoop Dogg's youth football league played an 'instrumental' role for Texans' C.J. Stroud

When the Houston Texans quarterback joined the rap icon's league, he never thought it would be as vital of a stepping stone as it was.
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Stroud's mother, Kimberly, was skeptical about a league run by rap icon Snoop Dogg. But any hesitation didn't last long.
"When we went to the actual practices and saw how everybody was so professional and great people," Kimberly Stroud told ESPN. "So don't judge a book by its cover."
Beyond his pinpoint accuracy, Stroud's ability to unify teammates regardless of their background, was something he learned in Snoop's league. All of those tools helped the Texans in their quest to win the AFC South and make it to the second round of the playoffs during Stroud's rookie season.
"I was so competitive and wanted to win so I was like 'I have to find a way to be a leader and relate to these guys.' That was my first step," Stroud told ESPN. "I started hanging out with guys off the field, my mom would have kids come over and spend the night. She would allow me to go over to their houses.
SNOOP AND STROUD now have a mentor-mentee relationship. But Snoop leans on the quarterback just as much to gain wisdom that he can relay to his athletes.
"It's special because [Stroud] is exactly what we breed kids to be," Snoop told ESPN. "Good students, good athletes, respecting their elders, their parents and being a great listener. C.J. was a great listener. That's why he's translating on that football field into a great leader.

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Snoop oversees everything, but he delegates responsibility to an executive board and staff that has a league president and commissioner. His main goal is to provide an outlet for "people that look like me."
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JB said:
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How Snoop Dogg's youth football league played an 'instrumental' role for Texans' C.J. Stroud

When the Houston Texans quarterback joined the rap icon's league, he never thought it would be as vital of a stepping stone as it was.
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Stroud's mother, Kimberly, was skeptical about a league run by rap icon Snoop Dogg. But any hesitation didn't last long.
"When we went to the actual practices and saw how everybody was so professional and great people," Kimberly Stroud told ESPN. "So don't judge a book by its cover."
Beyond his pinpoint accuracy, Stroud's ability to unify teammates regardless of their background, was something he learned in Snoop's league. All of those tools helped the Texans in their quest to win the AFC South and make it to the second round of the playoffs during Stroud's rookie season.
"I was so competitive and wanted to win so I was like 'I have to find a way to be a leader and relate to these guys.' That was my first step," Stroud told ESPN. "I started hanging out with guys off the field, my mom would have kids come over and spend the night. She would allow me to go over to their houses.
SNOOP AND STROUD now have a mentor-mentee relationship. But Snoop leans on the quarterback just as much to gain wisdom that he can relay to his athletes.
"It's special because [Stroud] is exactly what we breed kids to be," Snoop told ESPN. "Good students, good athletes, respecting their elders, their parents and being a great listener. C.J. was a great listener. That's why he's translating on that football field into a great leader.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1748404959056654825
Snoop oversees everything, but he delegates responsibility to an executive board and staff that has a league president and commissioner. His main goal is to provide an outlet for "people that look like me."
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Good stuff JB, thanks for posting this
 
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Gary Kubiak shares thoughts on C.J. Stroud, Texans coaches

"I was extremely impressed. The first thing that jumps out to you is that he can make any throw at any time," Kubiak said. "It doesn't take a lot of effort for him to flip a ball 30-40 yards down the field with people around his feet and those type of things. Those are just God-given talents that are really really special, when you watch him, you see that. To me, you never see any panic in him when things are going on — that's a tremendous sign."
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xtruroyaltyx said:
I dont know if they do this or not when meeting with qb prospects, but this is exactly what id have them do:

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Id get more out of seeing how their minds work doing that vs an S2 test.
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I remember reading a book by John McPhee about basketball star Bill Bradley. He said his greatness was due to his “panoptic” vision (playing out of his head) when he was on the court. In fact Bradley could score facing away from the basket without looking because of this vision. I don’t know how a NC and a DMR can measure or determine this ability when looking at QB prospects but it’s a trait whereby for those so blessed as Bradley or a CJ, rather than their game decisions flowing from them as a thinking player agent, the game actually flows through them and this panoptic vision of the activity on the field allows them, seemingly without thinking, to make the correct responses to the game activity. Like CJ said, he doesn’t test well he just plays football. I believe this ability renders an S2 test useless. But how do you measure this “mystical” ability in a player within a group of highly skilled prospects whose game activity is otherwise a thinking action from them to the activity on the field?
 
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Dejaview said:
I remember reading a book by John McPhee about basketball star Bill Bradley. He said his greatness was due to his “panoptic” vision (playing out of his head) when he was on the court.
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Bill Bradley's "greatness"? I remember Bradley as an average player. The 5th best player on the Knicks behine Clyde Frazier, Willis Reed, Dave DeBusschere, and Earl "The Pearl" Monroe.
 
Lucky said:
Bill Bradley's "greatness"? I remember Bradley as an average player. The 5th best player on the Knicks behine Clyde Frazier, Willis Reed, Dave DeBusschere, and Earl "The Pearl" Monroe.
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He's in politics so...
 
Lucky said:
This guy is one of the better youtube analysts I've seen. Surprised he didn't go into coaching after retirement, but he's till young and could go that way.
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He's a bit of a knobhead but I guess that never really stopped anybody.
 
Lucky said:
Bill Bradley's "greatness"? I remember Bradley as an average player. The 5th best player on the Knicks behine Clyde Frazier, Willis Reed, Dave DeBusschere, and Earl "The Pearl" Monroe.
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I didn’t write it but the point was the expressed concept but I know that I, Jefe, do not have your superior intellect and education, but could it be, once again, you are angry at something else and are looking to take it out on me?
 
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