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2023 TEXANS DRAFT DISCUSSION

We should only be taking a QB with a number 2 overall if you think there is a likely chance they can develop into a top 10 QB. Don’t take someone who’s ceiling is a middle of the pack player just because our current QBs suck.

If we think Stroud can be that guy, then great, run to the podium and take him. If not, don’t over complicate this and take Anderson or trade back if an offer is there.

It’s ok to suck for one more year to build the team the right way.
 
For those of you that are so dead set on taking a QB in this draft, this is the year to build a great foundation (offense & defense) for the QB we take next year. And, next year we have two 1st round picks & all of our 1st round picks in future years. Since there are no Andrew Luck type players coming out next year, offering 2-3 1st round picks should be able to get us one of the top projected QB's. So, quit worrying about it. This team is on the right path to becoming a Super Bowl contender. And if done right, a Super Bowl contender for many years to come.
 
thunderkyss said:
I’m starting whichever knows how to read NFL defenses, how to call the play in the huddle, & make the calls at the line.

For me, it’s not about developing a QB. It’s building a foundation for our future QB.
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That would be CK.
So, in that scenario, you absolutely draft a potential starter to develop now and start growing and familiarising with the team and play some snaps in garbage time.
That way he can be about as well equipped as possible to start in 2024 without being thrown in the deep end.
 
Then don't draft the guy, but leaking you don't like a specific guy for 3 weeks is just dumb it eliminates teams willing to trade up because they know now you weren't drafting the guy.
 
Double Barrel said:
I don't watch college football, but as a Texans fan I know that the one QB prospect that "sometimes one works" will be the one the Texans pass and falls to the Colts. lol

And I'd rather take a chance with a rookie QB than Davis Mills or Case Keenum. If either of these guys are the Texans starting QB in 2023, I think all the hope I had for DeMeco will just blow away like smoke in the wind.
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Next Thursday night I am prepared to be informed that the Texans have been diagnosed with Leprosy.

I just don’t who this years Kenyon Green will be, and for the impatient Texans to trade up at least twice using five draft picks to do so.
 
Thorn said:
Of course it is, and I can't wait to do it. :D
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Not me this year.

I think I am going to wait for something good/bad to happen and act like I told everyone know but the people on this message board that I knew that it was going to happen.

Or just wait for the consensus of opinion to form and disagree with it. Consistently enough to get on people’s ignore list.

I haven’t decided which one so I will just do both.
 
Hottoddie said:
For those of you that are so dead set on taking a QB in this draft, this is the year to build a great foundation (offense & defense) for the QB we take next year. And, next year we have two 1st round picks & all of our 1st round picks in future years. Since there are no Andrew Luck type players coming out next year, offering 2-3 1st round picks should be able to get us one of the top projected QB's. So, quit worrying about it. This team is on the right path to becoming a Super Bowl contender. And if done right, a Super Bowl contender for many years to come.
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The QB position is far too key to ignore.
Texans FO has already stated that they like both of the top two QB's in this draft so you must take one. This will allow you to let him start acclimating now and if you don't want to throw him in the deep end, then CK starts as he already knows the offense. The rookie can train with the team and play snaps in garbage time.
 
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texanhead08 said:
Then don't draft the guy, but leaking you don't like a specific guy for 3 weeks is just dumb it eliminates teams willing to trade up because they know now you weren't drafting the guy.
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It makes teams know you might be targeting THEIR player after the consensus for us was a qb. It means we're a threat to do anything and increases trade possibilities.

It's exactly what we should be doing. Arizona at #3 is no longer the biggest pivot point in the draft. We are.

Nicely done Nick.
 
powda said:
It makes teams know you might be targeting THEIR player after the consensus for us was a qb. It means we're a threat to do anything and increases trade possibilities.

It's exactly what we should be doing. Arizona at #3 is no longer the biggest pivot point in the draft. We are.

Nicely done Nick.
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Agree. It also lets Carolina know we are not trading up for the first pick so they can start lowering their expectations.
 
powda said:
It makes teams know you might be targeting THEIR player after the consensus for us was a qb. It means we're a threat to do anything and increases trade possibilities.

It's exactly what we should be doing. Arizona at #3 is no longer the biggest pivot point in the draft. We are.

Nicely done Nick.
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We are talking about the same team that drafted 2 injured players in the first round last year.
 
Texian said:
It's his fault because under pressure he threw an airball pass falling backward off of his left leg. Because of his awkward throwing position, he couldn't get any zip on the ball or enough strength to throw the ball out of bounds.


I'm not sure why you're fascinated with Burrow and LSU unless you're trying to make an argument that Stroud is better than Burrow. That I disagree with and is a bet I would happily make.

You can either believe what your eyes and ears are telling you or become infatuated with the player and make excuses for his poor play.
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You're reaching as usual. If you go back and read, I had issues with him staying in the pocket too long and not using his legs last year, not even this past season. Posters want to use a 1 sided conversation. You speak of his wrs, yet all those guys at those big programs have studs at wr. Burrow had Chase, Jefferson and a 1400 yd back in the backfield. If a guy makes a bad play he makes a bad play. That play was a jailbreak. It was a throw away. I notice you didn't mention the supposed #1 didn't play the entire season. Yep, keep pushing Bortles and Carson Wentz
 
TexCanada said:
We should only be taking a QB with a number 2 overall if you think there is a likely chance they can develop into a top 10 QB. Don’t take someone who’s ceiling is a middle of the pack player just because our current QBs suck.
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For this team? No.

A top 10 QB will fool you, make you think you are better than you are. You get to the divisional round & get stomped.

For this team, where it's at you need a franchise changer, like Peyton Manning, Elway, Favre, Young...

Otherwise you have Stafford in Detroit, Rivers in San Diego, Kosar in Cleveland
 
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Texansphan said:
That would be CK.
So, in that scenario, you absolutely draft a potential starter to develop now and start growing and familiarising with the team and play some snaps in garbage time.
That way he can be about as well equipped as possible to start in 2024 without being thrown in the deep end.
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If you think there's a natural born leader, sure. But I wouldn't take a guy because he's the best of this year's bunch.
 
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Hottoddie said:
For those of you that are so dead set on taking a QB in this draft, this is the year to build a great foundation (offense & defense) for the QB we take next year. And, next year we have two 1st round picks & all of our 1st round picks in future years. Since there are no Andrew Luck type players coming out next year, offering 2-3 1st round picks should be able to get us one of the top projected QB's. So, quit worrying about it. This team is on the right path to becoming a Super Bowl contender. And if done right, a Super Bowl contender for many years to come.
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Caleb Williams is considered that in the top of the top-tier prospects. My guess is that half of the posting about waiting until next year is the fantasy that the Texans can suck again or trade for the next generational talent. Some posters are aware that what they are doing, and some not.
 
djohn2oo8 said:
Also, if Bryce was actual NFL playing size, there would be a much further gap between him and Stroud. It’s funny. The Stroud folks can’t even tell you why they want the Texans to draft him. Other than they say the Texans NEED a QB.
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Not true.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
Nick on 610: "I think this first round has to the potential to maybe be a little more unpredictable than people think."

Went on to say teams follow their process, aren't necessarily relying on "information on the periphery that may or may not matter."

He rarely gives information out like this.
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I agree. I have Nolan Smith as the #1 player on my board and I think he is in the Top 10 on most team boards. Is Nick foreshadowing Anderson or trading back?
 
AcresHomesTexan said:
Caleb Williams is considered that in the top of the top-tier prospects. My guess is that half of the posting about waiting until next year is the fantasy that the Texans can suck again or trade for the next generational talent. Some posters are aware that what they are doing, and some not.
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Last year at this time Bryce Young and CJ Stroud were that guy that people couldn't wait for
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
Nick on 610: "I think this first round has to the potential to maybe be a little more unpredictable than people think."

Went on to say teams follow their process, aren't necessarily relying on "information on the periphery that may or may not matter."

He rarely gives information out like this.
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I wrote a couple weeks ago that positionally, these prospects at the top are clumped together. Wilson/Anderson, Bryce/CJ, three or four receivers have very little separation between them. It's going to be a very interesting draft. More and more I believe the Texans are taking Tyree Wilson at #2. Which I would be okay with, not thrilled. I still think Anderson is going to be really good in the NFL.
 
Watch the Texans draft Anderson, JSN, and trade in to the first for Stroud.

Would be the craziest draft....Bad look for Hooker as well who I actually think is good at reading defenses Pre Snap.
 
djohn2oo8 said:
Back from April 10th

https://twitter.com/x/status/1645469071503130630
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Young scores well on the S2. That makes sense, if the S2 correlates to QB decision making.

Will Levis scores well on the S2. That doesn't make a lot of sense, if the S2 correlates to QB decision making.

CJ Stroud scores...an 18? CJ Stroud, the guy with a career 1.4% INT rate?

I would need more info to see how exactly the S2 correlates to NFL QBs. Because it doesn't seem to correlate to college QBs very consistently.
 
Lucky said:
Young scores well on the S2. That makes sense, if the S2 correlates to QB decision making.

Will Levis scores well on the S2. That doesn't make a lot of sense, if the S2 correlates to QB decision making.

CJ Stroud scores...an 18? CJ Stroud, the guy with a career 1.4% INT rate?

I would need more info to see how exactly the S2 correlates to NFL QBs. Because it doesn't seem to correlate to college QBs very consistently.
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Maybe he didn’t take it seriously, which would be even worse, IMO.
 
Lucky said:
Young scores well on the S2. That makes sense, if the S2 correlates to QB decision making.

Will Levis scores well on the S2. That doesn't make a lot of sense, if the S2 correlates to QB decision making.

CJ Stroud scores...an 18? CJ Stroud, the guy with a career 1.4% INT rate?

I would need more info to see how exactly the S2 correlates to NFL QBs. Because it doesn't seem to correlate to college QBs very consistently.
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Makes you question Nick's comments when he talked about having their own stuff to determine. Maybe Nick feels like he performed well in their own test and those comments were to protect his decision.

The Stroud score makes absolutely no sense to me if you watch his tape.

It really is concerning though.

Can this guy learn a playbook or is he a really talented flag football player when given time to throw?

Its kind of the things that go through your mind.

What he did to Georgia should carry more weight, but his stock seems like its really going to take a hit.
 
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