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2023 TEXANS DRAFT DISCUSSION

banned1976 said:
I'll be surprised if the Texans don't draft a quarterback at #2. They'll probably draft a wide receiver at #12. And they'll probably be one of the worst defenses in the league once again. And while the rookie quarterback tries to get used to the speed of the game, the offense will probably struggle again as well.
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Concur, this would be a recipe for continuing as a basement dweller. If you want to WIN, you've to WIN upfront, on both sides of the line.
 
banned1976 said:
And we could easily debate BPA throughout the draft. The difference in talent is as clear as mud. There's probably 3 or 4 different TE's that we could argue is better than the others. Same with quarterbacks, OT's and wide receivers. And that seems to be from the #1 overall pick to the last pick in the draft. Jalen Carter, Will Anderson or Young?

Last year was different. For example, everyone (except the Texans) knew who the best corner was in the draft.
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And will that be any different this year? If what we hope is true, and that's Caserio is heavily influenced by his HC, we'll probably be OK. If Caserio is influenced from above, then chances are we're in for more trouble.

And if Caserio is most influenced by Caserio then who the hell knows anyway? I'm not sure we've figured that out yet.
 
Mangler said:
Were them guys watching the same combine? The receivers had to slow down on all of those “beautiful deep throws” by CJ. I’d take him over Bryce Young though. Also, jumping super high and running super fast does not automatically make a guy a good QB. I watched Anthony Richardson on Saturdays and he was just a bigger, bit slower, way more inaccurate Lamar Jackson.
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Jumping high does get them elevated on throws over Dline.
 
banned1976 said:
I'll be surprised if the Texans don't draft a quarterback at #2. They'll probably draft a wide receiver at #12. And they'll probably be one of the worst defenses in the league once again. And while the rookie quarterback tries to get used to the speed of the game, the offense will probably struggle again as well.
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No free agents?
 
Mangler said:
Were them guys watching the same combine? The receivers had to slow down on all of those “beautiful deep throws” by CJ. I’d take him over Bryce Young though. Also, jumping super high and running super fast does not automatically make a guy a good QB. I watched Anthony Richardson on Saturdays and he was just a bigger, bit slower, way more inaccurate Lamar Jackson.
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I was thinking the same thing. Richardson consistently had the better throws in the video above. CJ was either short or long on his throws. There wasn't any consistency there. Richardson looked effortless throwing those deep balls. Stroud, not so much. Wasn't impressed with Stroud at all from that passing drill.
 
vtech9 said:
I was thinking the same thing. Richardson consistently had the better throws in the video above. CJ was either short or long on his throws. There wasn't any consistency there. Richardson looked effortless throwing those deep balls. Stroud, not so much. Wasn't impressed with Stroud at all from that passing drill.
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Watched both complete throwing workouts, and Richardson was fairly inconsistent except on deep balls. Stroud was very consistent, but he was obviously hitting the limits of his throwing range deep.

I almost feel like Richardson could throw it as far as his imagination would allow though

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vtech9 said:
I was thinking the same thing. Richardson consistently had the better throws in the video above. CJ was either short or long on his throws. There wasn't any consistency there. Richardson looked effortless throwing those deep balls. Stroud, not so much. Wasn't impressed with Stroud at all from that passing drill.
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Couldn’t disagree more. CJ killed it. Richardson is an athlete. CJ is a QB. Huge difference. CJ also fits the general WC scheme way better.
 
vtech9 said:
I was thinking the same thing. Richardson consistently had the better throws in the video above. CJ was either short or long on his throws. There wasn't any consistency there. Richardson looked effortless throwing those deep balls. Stroud, not so much. Wasn't impressed with Stroud at all from that passing drill.
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I don't know what combine you were watching. Stroud was throwing that deep ball with ease. He didn't have to hop step or wind up. The ball was traveling 60 yds easy. How far does anyone thing he needs to throw the ball. Not to mention, on those drills, the ball was on the correct shoulder and very catchable balls.
 
djohn2oo8 said:
And Ramsey now wants ANOTHER trade. Fields likely will want a trade soon as well.

And since you want to downplay it. How many QBs signed an extension, and then demanded a trade 6 months later? Not only just demanded a trade. But demanded the entire front office and coaching staff be Black? That’s what you get with Mulugheta. Making demands of how the employer should make hires…..This is how it will play out again in Cleveland.
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The part about the front office and coaching staff to be all black are all lies.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
Re. Young, I was asked how much weight could he gain in 24 hours for the Combine weigh in. I have had athletes gain ~5-6 pounds (wanted or not) overnight after eating a large high sodium meal like hamburgers and French fries. It would likely affect some of his performance...........but that variable was entirely removed by Young opting to forego Combine testing.
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I've been wondering about his newly added weight at the combine myself & whether or not he'll keep it on. The University of Alabama has him listed as 6' & 194lbs. Unless I'm mistaken, the numbers listed on the university's website are usually posted when the player first joins the team & they don't get updated again while he's there. If that's the case, the height was most likely taken with his shoes on & as for the weight, he's only added 10 pounds in three years at a major university with all the exercise equipment & trainers they have. That makes me think he did do something like you mentioned above & that Young's frame/metabolism just won't support any/much extra weight. I'm okay with the Texans taking him if they feel they can work with him & keep him from being killed by chiseled 250 lb linebackers & 300+ lb d'linemen, but I'm deeply concerned about his durability in the NFL.
 
I like all 4 of the top qbs for one reason or another but i still trade back and take Richardson. Not Going to complain with any of them. Young wont ever be able to fix his size but qb skills wise hes the best. The other guys have areas they need to work on but imo enough positives to work with.
 
Just watched the Mock Draft Guy's assessment video of Calijah Kancey on a whim scrolling through my suggested videos. I'm on board. Size is an issue but hey if the motor and desire is off the charts. And y'all know that's what I want. After I watched the video I Googled him and also searched his name on here and saw that he did great at the combine the last few days? I'm not crazy about workout warriors but it seems like he's a bit more than that.


Seems like a guy who can't really go inside on an NFL line but maybe he can be moved around in a versatile defense.

Trade down from 2, get a bunch of picks, draft Witherspoon/Gonzalez and this Kancey, see if you can grab some WR and TE somewhere in the mix, draft a QB late and sign one in FA and let's rock and roll.
 
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Porky said:
It is. Did you see Stroud play this year. This is simply a confirmation of what I saw in the Georgia game. And he did show me he can make every throw including some beautiful darts and some bombs that were on target. Very smooth and accurate passer. I still rely primarily on game play, which is why I plainly stated I still had Bryce ahead.

This is also why Richardson doesn’t dramatically move up my board. I go back to the games.
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Richardson is not a perfect prospect. He completed just 53.8 percent of his passes last season at Florida, and he started just 13 games in his college football career. Completion percentage and games started are two of the college quarterback stats with the best track record for predicting NFL success, and Richardson ranks near the bottom of all the quarterbacks in this year’s draft in both categories.
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Hottoddie said:
I've been wondering about his newly added weight at the combine myself & whether or not he'll keep it on. The University of Alabama has him listed as 6' & 194lbs. Unless I'm mistaken, the numbers listed on the university's website are usually posted when the player first joins the team & they don't get updated again while he's there. If that's the case, the height was most likely taken with his shoes on & as for the weight, he's only added 10 pounds in three years at a major university with all the exercise equipment & trainers they have. That makes me think he did do something like you mentioned above & that Young's frame/metabolism just won't support any/much extra weight. I'm okay with the Texans taking him if they feel they can work with him & keep him from being killed by chiseled 250 lb linebackers & 300+ lb d'linemen, but I'm deeply concerned about his durability in the NFL.
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With this information that I dug up, it is likely that he maxed out his comfortable playing weight of 194 lbs in 2021 and 2022. He joined Alabama at 180 lbs, and in his redshirt 2020 year, he already gained 10 lbs to weigh 190 lbs.

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https://alabama.rivals.com/news/updated-heights-and-weights-for-alabama-s-enrolled-freshmen

2/19/2020 FOOTBALL
Updated heights and weights for Alabama's enrolled freshmen

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The Alabama Crimson Tide recently released the heights and weights of enrolled freshmen. The Crimson Tide has 12 freshmen that have enrolled early along with one junior college transfer in Ronald Williams Jr. The Crimson Tide signed four five-star freshmen, which have each enrolled early and who are already participating in the 4th quarter program with Alabama strength and conditioning coach Scott Cochran.

Below are the updated heights and weights of the four five-star freshmen


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Updated Height: 6-0

Updated Weight: 190 Pounds

According to Alabama's new weight for Young, the freshmen five-star from California has put on 10 pounds since joining the Crimson Tide. Ranked as the No. 2 overall player in the Country by Rivals.com, Young is expected to come right into Tuscaloosa, Alabama and push favorites Mac Jones and Taulia Tagovailoa for the starting position. Young threw for 164-yards with two touchdowns during the Army All-American Game, which earned him MVP honors.
 
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vtech9 said:
I was thinking the same thing. Richardson consistently had the better throws in the video above. CJ was either short or long on his throws. There wasn't any consistency there. Richardson looked effortless throwing those deep balls. Stroud, not so much. Wasn't impressed with Stroud at all from that passing drill.
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I was listening to a few different radio shows this week and they all said accuracy is his biggest problem and they said accuracy is the hardest thing to fix. I have no idea if this is true. They also said just because some QBs fix their accuracy, most that have accuracy issues don't. A couple of shows had receivers on who agreed with this.
 
Hottoddie said:
I've been wondering about his newly added weight at the combine myself & whether or not he'll keep it on. The University of Alabama has him listed as 6' & 194lbs. Unless I'm mistaken, the numbers listed on the university's website are usually posted when the player first joins the team & they don't get updated again while he's there. If that's the case, the height was most likely taken with his shoes on & as for the weight, he's only added 10 pounds in three years at a major university with all the exercise equipment & trainers they have. That makes me think he did do something like you mentioned above & that Young's frame/metabolism just won't support any/much extra weight. I'm okay with the Texans taking him if they feel they can work with him & keep him from being killed by chiseled 250 lb linebackers & 300+ lb d'linemen, but I'm deeply concerned about his durability in the NFL.
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He has shrunk then! Doc should he be checked for osteoporosis? ;)

Also the first thing Young probably said after his weigh in was "Man I've got to take a dump"
 
Xopher said:
I was listening to a few different radio shows this week and they all said accuracy is his biggest problem and they said accuracy is the hardest thing to fix. I have no idea if this is true. They also said just because some QBs fix their accuracy, most that have accuracy issues don't. A couple of shows had receivers on who agreed with this.
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An older article on this subject..........but still seems very applicable today.

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2016 NFL DRAFTSCOUTING
Quarterback Traits: The Attainable Versus The Inherent
March 17, 2016

Ted Nguyen

The NFL Scouting Combine is in the rear view mirror and as evaluators assemble their draft boards, it is important to think about how players may improve once they reach the next level. Some talents just comes naturally while others take years of fine-tuning. Ted Nguyen breaks down the quarterback traits and weighs the attainable versus the inherent.
 
Porky said:
Couldn’t disagree more. CJ killed it. Richardson is an athlete. CJ is a QB. Huge difference. CJ also fits the general WC scheme way better.
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So sounds like you are prettry much all-in with CJ Porky, but which QB do you think the Texans will actually draft ?
 
leebigeztx said:
I don't know what combine you were watching. Stroud was throwing that deep ball with ease. He didn't have to hop step or wind up. The ball was traveling 60 yds easy. How far does anyone thing he needs to throw the ball. Not to mention, on those drills, the ball was on the correct shoulder and very catchable balls.
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Dude doesn’t like Stroud, so therefore, he’s going to be extra critical and negative towards him.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
An older article on this subject..........but still seems very applicable today.

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2016 NFL DRAFTSCOUTING
Quarterback Traits: The Attainable Versus The Inherent
March 17, 2016

Ted Nguyen

The NFL Scouting Combine is in the rear view mirror and as evaluators assemble their draft boards, it is important to think about how players may improve once they reach the next level. Some talents just comes naturally while others take years of fine-tuning. Ted Nguyen breaks down the quarterback traits and weighs the attainable versus the inherent.
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QB traits
 
vtech9 said:
I was thinking the same thing. Richardson consistently had the better throws in the video above. CJ was either short or long on his throws. There wasn't any consistency there. Richardson looked effortless throwing those deep balls. Stroud, not so much. Wasn't impressed with Stroud at all from that passing drill.
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Even NFL QBs can be much less effective under pressure and surely most, if not all rookies.
Percentage points also may not include a multitude of variables.
Stroud has that magic # 10" hands and a quick release and is very accurate.
He has been consistently ranked as the second best QB in this class by the vast majority of professional scouts.
Passing up on him because of one fluid variable would be shortsighted.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
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I don't think the Texans are going to draft Richardson. Maybe before yesterday it was a 2% chance they took him and today it's at 4%. But, AR having the performance he did yesterday should only increase the value (unless you are sticking to the value chart) of the #2 overall pick. The price to move up to #1 may be too steep for some teams but to move up to #2, that may be more palatable to a team that has fallen in love with Richardson. Bottom line - CJ Stroud and Anthony Richardson helped the teams at the top of the draft yesterday.
 
Give me Richardson IF he keep going like he has been. Spot on passes, huge, 4.3 40 spoke well. Other articles are out saying just how great he is looking. Did he get it all together?

profootballtalk.nbcsports.com

Anthony Richardson’s sensational Combine performance raises his draft stock

Florida quarterback Anthony Richardson may have done more than any other player to improve his draft stock at the Scouting Combine. Richardson was outstanding in Indianapolis, and as a result he&#8…
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banned1976 said:
I don't think the Texans are going to draft Richardson. Maybe before yesterday it was a 2% chance they took him and today it's at 4%. But, AR having the performance he did yesterday should only increase the value (unless you are sticking to the value chart) of the #2 overall pick. The price to move up to #1 may be too steep for some teams but to move up to #2, that may be more palatable to a team that has fallen in love with Richardson. Bottom line - CJ Stroud and Anthony Richardson helped the teams at the top of the draft yesterday.
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Stroud tightened the gap between him and Young - especially as Young came in under expectations with his height.
I think it also reduces the chances of Texans trading up slightly unless Stroud has been their target all along.
It will be interesting to watch the various big boards and mock drafts over the next few weeks after the combine.
 
Texansballer74 said:
Dude doesn’t like Stroud, so therefore, he’s going to be extra critical and negative towards him.
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I think some people, myself included, I look for reasons to not draft a guy at a particular spot in the draft. That's with every guy, every pick. It's almost like reading Amazon reviews for products. I'm more picky when it comes to quarterbacks because they are high dollar "purchases". Quarterbacks in the first round are like buying the newest gaming computer. Negative reviews have more weight than if I was buying a pair of socks.
 
Texansphan said:
Stroud tightened the gap between him and Young - especially as Young came in under expectations with his height.
I think it also reduces the chances of Texans trading up slightly unless Stroud has been their target all along.
It will be interesting to watch the various big boards and mock drafts over the next few weeks after the combine.
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He didn't actually. Stroud is now +550 on Caesars for 1st overall pick odds, dropping from +230 48 hours ago. Richardson moved from +800 to +400. Stroud fell back actually. This is real world money and based on aggregated books across the line. Guessing his comments didn't help. But his throwing yesterday at the combine didn't appear to have moved the needle either. Just facts.
 
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Skip Bayless makes a BOLD claim about Bryce Young’s future amidst extravagant talks over his size
Skip Bayless has fallen head over heels for Bryce Young and believes the 2021 Heisman winner is going to be a star in the NFL.
by Yash Karandekar
March 5, 2023


Being a quarterback in the NFL is a herculean task. Every aspect has to be perfect for a player who wants to be a quarterback in the NFL. The arm strength, size, weight, accuracy, and football IQ need to be the best of the prospect.

Quarterbacks are judged on the very minute details as well. Last year, Pittsburgh Steelers signal-caller Kenny Pickett was ridiculed for his small hand size. And now, in the 2023 NFL Combine, Alabama’s signal-caller Bryce Young has been subjected to the same ridicule for his same height and weight.

Bryce Young was listed by Alabama to be 6 foot and 194 pounds. It is common for colleges to add a little juice to players and that’s the reason why players’ measurements are taken during the draft. One scout revealed to ESPN’s draft analyst Todd McShay that he had pegged Young at 5-foot-10 and a half and 194 pounds.

Bryce Young has attracted a lot of heat for his small size

Fans on social media and even analysts started to see Bryce Young‘s small size as a deficiency that will make teams skip on him during the draft. There have been only about 11 quarterbacks that are 6 feet or less since the merger of the NFL and AFL. These quarterbacks include Super Bowl LXIV champion Drew Brees, and former first-overall picks Michael Vick and Kyler Murray. These are the only noteworthy quarterbacks from this sample size, and it doesn’t necessarily mean that Bryce Young will join this group.

With all the negative comments following in, veteran TV personality and co-host of UNDISPUTED, Skip Bayless, came forward and showed his support for the 2021 Heisman winner. Skip wrote on Twitter, “I am just fine with Bryce Young measuring 5-10 1/8 and weighing 204 pounds. HE’S THE BEST OF THESE QBS AND HE’S GOING TO BE A STAR. The arm, the accuracy, the leadership, the clutch guts. I like C.J. Stroud but I love Bryce Young.”

https://twitter.com/x/status/1632092972404850688

Bryce Young has all the qualities of a franchise quarterback capable of winning the Super Bowl. Prior to announcing that he will forgo his senior year at Alabama and enter the draft, the 21-year-old played 34 games for the Tide. He had a 23-4 record with a 65.8 completion percentage and threw for 8,356 yards, 80 touchdowns, and 12 interceptions. These stats are definitely the marking of an elite quarterback.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1632150742180978688

While no one is doubting Young’s ability as a leader, his weight does raise some eyebrows. Even though Kyler Murray is just 5-foot-10, he weighs in at 207 pounds, which is way above the recommended for someone of his height. Young, on the other hand, weighs 194 pounds. NFL scouts are worried about his ability to break tackles and extend play out of the pocket because passer rushers the size of a mountain who weighs more than 230 pounds will be running full speed at him to pancake him to the ground.

Teams will be wary of drafting Bryce Young since he is at high risk for injury given his weight. He doesn’t have enough body armor or mass to absorb the hits laid on him by defensive linemen. It’ll be interesting to see which teams will line up to draft Alabama’s signal-caller now that his height and weight have become a huge question mark on his stellar resume.
 
Texansphan said:
Stroud tightened the gap between him and Young - especially as Young came in under expectations with his height.
I think it also reduces the chances of Texans trading up slightly unless Stroud has been their target all along.
It will be interesting to watch the various big boards and mock drafts over the next few weeks after the combine.
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I think the one move that will upset the most people on this board will be trading up to take Stroud.

So they'll most likely trade up to take Stroud.

I'll make room for y'all on the CasterioGetdafuOuttaHere train.
 
ben.aires.smith said:
He didn't actually. Stroud is now +550 on Caesars for 1st overall pick odds, dropping from +230 48 hours ago. Richardson moved from +800 to +400. Stroud fell back actually. This is real world money and based on aggregated books across the line. Guessing his comments didn't help. But his throwing yesterday at the combine didn't appear to have moved the needle either.
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The passing has to be looked at objectively - like how familiar was he with the receivers at the combine vs those on his team?
And nothing speaks like actual game tape.
Teams that want AR over Stroud must have a run option heavy scheme. He's not very accurate - THE top consideration for your QB.
 
Texansphan said:
The passing has to be looked at objectively - like how familiar was he with the receivers at the combine vs those on his team?
And nothing speaks like actual game tape.
Teams that want AR over Stroud must have a run option heavy scheme. He's not very accurate - THE top consideration for your QB.
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"Stroud tightened the gap between him and Young - especially as Young came in under expectations with his height."

I was just presenting facts in terms of actual money being placed that the gap between Young and Stroud has actually widened, not tightened as you stated. It's not my opinion, but the books opinions based on thousands of wagers and where money is moving.

Interesting to note that Young's measurements were a complete non-issue with wagerors. And it's probably because everyone already knew Young wasn't 6'0, so nobody was surprised by the outcome. And he weighed over 200lbs, which was the biggest concern. Although I doubt this is actually permanent muscle mass and Young didn't just bloat-up before the weigh-in like boxers do.

Excellent decision by Young not to throw and risk having his tools/measurables look subpar relative to his peer class. Went from -120 odds of being the 1st overall pick before the combine to -175 currently. In other words, Young extended his lead in odds of being the first overall pick, even though he didn't participate. Good call.
 
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ben.aires.smith said:
"Stroud tightened the gap between him and Young - especially as Young came in under expectations with his height."

I was just presenting facts in terms of actual money being placed that the gap between Young and Stroud has actually widened, not tightened as you stated. It's not my opinion, but the books opinions based on thousands of wagers and where money is moving.

Interesting to note that Young's measurements were a complete non-issue with wagerors. And it's probably because everyone already knew Young wasn't 6'0, so nobody was surprised by the outcome. And he weighed over 200lbs, which was the biggest concern. Although I doubt this is actually permanent muscle mass and Young didn't just bloat-up before the weigh-in like boxers do.

Excellent decision by Young not to throw and risk having his tools/measurables look subpar to his peer class. Went from -120 odds of being the 1st overall pick before the combine to -175 currently. In other words, Young extended his lead in odds of being the first overall pick, even though he didn't participate. Good call.
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As I previously presented as the most likely scenario for his new weigh in.
 
Saturday Combine thoughts....

I expected Jalin Hyatt to run a high 4.2 or low 4.3. He ran a 4.40. Makes me question the Bama DBs the way Hyatt torched them. Hyatt may be an exceptional route runner by the way he got open. He is frail weighing only 176 lbs. I Thought Hyatt may have small hands due to drops but his hands measured 9".

QB surprises
Nobody threw the ball worse than Tanner McKee. Stetson Bennett threw the ball best.
 
ben.aires.smith said:
"Stroud tightened the gap between him and Young - especially as Young came in under expectations with his height."

I was just presenting facts in terms of actual money being placed that the gap between Young and Stroud has actually widened, not tightened as you stated. It's not my opinion, but the books opinions based on thousands of wagers and where money is moving.

Interesting to note that Young's measurements were a complete non-issue with wagerors. And it's probably because everyone already knew Young wasn't 6'0, so nobody was surprised by the outcome. And he weighed over 200lbs, which was the biggest concern. Although I doubt this is actually permanent muscle mass and Young didn't just bloat-up before the weigh-in like boxers do.

Excellent decision by Young not to throw and risk having his tools/measurables look subpar relative to his peer class. Went from -120 odds of being the 1st overall pick before the combine to -175 currently. In other words, Young extended his lead in odds of being the first overall pick, even though he didn't participate. Good call.
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I'll take that with a generous grain of salt.
After all, if Stroud for example chose not to throw at the combine, do you think his stock would rise or fall?
Most people probably also thought Young would be closer to 5'11" than 10".
Anyone who thinks that doesn't hurt his draft stock is shortsighted.
No pun intended.
 
leebigeztx said:
I don't know what combine you were watching. Stroud was throwing that deep ball with ease. He didn't have to hop step or wind up. The ball was traveling 60 yds easy. How far does anyone thing he needs to throw the ball. Not to mention, on those drills, the ball was on the correct shoulder and very catchable balls.
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Na. Every receiver he threw to had to literally slow down in order to catch CJ’s deep passes. That won’t fly in the NFL. Other than that, I think CJ did well. I’d still take him over Bryce Young any day if the Texans are convinced they must draft one of them. With that said, I’m still in the pass on a QB in the 1st round crowd.
 
Texansphan said:
I'll take that with a generous grain of salt.
After all, if Stroud for example chose not to throw at the combine, do you think his stock would rise or fall?
Most people probably also thought Young would be closer to 5'11" than 10".
Anyone who thinks that doesn't hurt his draft stock is shortsighted.
No pun intended.
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So you are taking your a whole betting market's opinion with a grain of salt and superceding that with your own subjective opinion that Stroud's stock has risen. Is that what you are saying?? Because it sure sounds like that's what you said, and that's a whole lot of confirmation bias which disregards a super majority opinion based on where actual dollars are being placed.

And I don't think within an inch on height really makes that much difference. It's more about Young's frame.
 
Texian said:
Saturday Combine thoughts....

I expected Jalin Hyatt to run a high 4.2 or low 4.3. He ran a 4.40. Makes me question the Bama DBs the way Hyatt torched them. Hyatt may be an exceptional route runner by the way he got open. He is frail weighing only 176 lbs. I Thought Hyatt may have small hands due to drops but his hands measured 9".

QB surprises
Nobody threw the ball worse than Tanner McKee. Stetson Bennett threw the ball best.
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You're missing the underwear speed vs actual in pads football speed though. Those are totally different things.
 
Texian said:
Saturday Combine thoughts....

I expected Jalin Hyatt to run a high 4.2 or low 4.3. He ran a 4.40. Makes me question the Bama DBs the way Hyatt torched them. Hyatt may be an exceptional route runner by the way he got open. He is frail weighing only 176 lbs. I Thought Hyatt may have small hands due to drops but his hands measured 9".

QB surprises
Nobody threw the ball worse than Tanner McKee. Stetson Bennett threw the ball best.
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Yeah, I’m surprised not more Bennett discussion isn’t happening here.
He had the best overall combine of all the QBs. He basically threw it perfect. Almost every throw. He’s 5’11 190 and has 10 inch hands. The guy is a Drew Brees clone.
The whole QB pre draft thing is so overhyped and over analyzed with so much underlying personal BS, that it’s best to sit back and watch the entire thing 1st.
 
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