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2023 TEXANS DRAFT DISCUSSION

CloakNNNdagger said:
Mina: I am 5'7" and wearing 4" high heels!

5'7" + 4" = 5'11"..............the picture shows Bryce ~4" taller than Mina............supposedly making him ~6'3"" tall.............Riiiiiight!
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Bryce: Mina, nice try. I know you are wearing 4" heels, but I shall not be outdone!! :foottap:

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Na. I’m sure she meant even while wearing 4” heels she’s still only 5’7”

Therefore, Bryce Young is 6’0 - 6’1” pushing it.
 
Porky said:
I had Stroud as a mid-first selection until that Georgia game. He really showed me something there and to me that made him a top 5 pick.

Yes it was one game, but it's important to note it's Georgia, not the little sisters of the poor - senior division. Stroud was on fire that game and threw numerous dimes under pressure and off-schedule against a ridiculously good college defense.

I guess the lingering question is did the guy grow in that game and will continue to progress in that area, or will he revert to the mean. I'd like to think with good pro coaching and a dedication to improvement, it's the former and not the latter.
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The Georgia defense last year wasn't nearly as good as the defense was in 2021. I think they had 7 starters drafted in the 1st three rds off of the 2021 defense including four 1st rd picks . Last years defense wasn't nearly as good.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
I won't make you wait. It's simple. No one has bothered to do a compprehensive long-term collegiate or NFL comparison study. The Packers did a very limited "observation" of this subject and concluded that the smaller players spent more time on the Injury reports than did the larger players. But I wouldn't necessarily accept this isolated observation as valid.

If we are going to speak of Bryce and his injury history..........which is not being discussed at all for some reason, let's take a look. Oct of last year, he sustain an A/C shoulder separation when he was tackled and landed on his shoulder. He missed only 1 game. In the NFL, the most common mechanism for a QB to sustain an A/C separation is when a tackler comes down with his full weight on the QB, driving his shoulder into the turf.

What is concerning is that I have found that Young has sustained at least 4 A/C separations in the past, albeit apparently grade I. But in the NFL those NFL defensive players will be likely expected to place much more weight behind any similar trauma to the shoulder.
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Thanks as always Doc!

To me it comes to this. Does the guy look for contact, not know how to slide, has issues feeling the rush, etc. If so...I'm with the naysayers. That said, from the games I've watched, Bryce the opposite of that. I think certain guys have that self-awareness and some guys do not. Some guys crave contact, some know how to avoid the big hits.

Look at how large Cam Newton was. Cam was large framed and muscular at 6' 5" and around 245. About as big as you'll see an NFL QB. Care to see his injury history? Check it out below. Rib fractures, sprains, ligament tears, rotator cuff tear...shall I go on? In conclusion your honor, I present Cam's injury history. I ask that this be read into the record for the jury. :-)

Jan 12, 2014NFLPedal Ankle Ligament Tear Grade 3The procedure was designed to tighten ligaments in Newton's left ankle and give him more range of motion. Surgery was on March 19, 2014.
Aug 30, 2008Non-NFLPedal Ankle Sprain Grade 2During his sophomore season, Newton played in the season opener against Hawaii but suffered an ankle injury. He then took a medical redshirt.
Aug 22, 2014NFLChest Rib FractureNewton suffered a fractured rib in a preseason game. He missed the first game of the regular season as a result.
Dec 30, 2012NFLPedal Ankle Sprain/Pull Unspecified Grade 1Newton suffered a left ankle sprain against the Saints that was considered minor.
Oct 2, 2016NFLHead Cranial Concussion Grade 1Newton took a hard hit to the head during Week 4 action.
Dec 11, 2016NFLShoulder Rotator Cuff TearNewton eventually underwent surgery on March 30, 2017.
Dec 9, 2014NFLBack Vertebral FractureNewton endured two transverse process fractures in his lower back in a car accident.
Jan 7, 2018NFLKnee Strain Grade 1Newton suffered ligament and cartilage damage, as well as extensive swelling. He avoided surgery.
Oct 21, 2018NFLShoulderNewton played through the injury until the final 2 weeks, when Carolina shut him down. Newton underwent surgery on January 24.
Sep 12, 2019NFLPedal Lisfranc SprainNewton aggravated a left foot injury in the Week 2 loss to Buccaneers. He missed the rest of the regular season.
Jun 4, 2021NFLHandNewton suffered a slight bruise on his throwing hand in the Patriots' OTA session. He was ready for the Patriots' mandatory minicamp
 
OptimisticTexan said:
No. I wouldn’t invest in Richardson until RD4 or later. His CFB stats and on field results left a lot to be desired. Sure he has the physical tools, but so did Ryan Leaf.
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Damn round 4? That would be the lowest I’ve seen Richardson go. Personally I think he’ll go way earlier than that, like every qb does come draft day. Heck I think hooker even with his injury status will go higher (2nd round)
 
Texian said:
Anytime you can upgrade your QB, you do it. Jalen Hurts Justin Fields is not the current GM or HC pick. For those reasons don't be surprised if Chicago trades Hurts Fields and drafts Young. It’s kind of a no brainer. Texans will get the scraps if they go QB or they can get the cream if they go DL.
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If they trade Fields I would be surprised. He should at least be their #1 backup.
If they really want a QB, I doubt they will be open to trading that #1 pick
 
The Pencil Neck said:
All of this nonsense is why IDNGAF until after the combine.

Looking at pictures where he's standing next to people whose heights are just as mysterious as his own? Seriously.

We'll know soon enough.
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Yep. Fun to talk about, but at the end of the day, I'll fall in line with supporting whoever DeMeco chooses to lead his offense.

DocBar said:
The Texans made the attempt. According to @steelbtexan, Smith wouldn't give up a third to get the deal done. The Chiefs gave up what was needed. For the record, if Mahomes came to the Texans, I doubt he'd be the Mahomes we know today. OB would've broken him.
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Maybe, or maybe Mahomes is so good that O'Brien could still be here after finally making it to an AFC Championship game.

OB did not break QBs. Quite the opposite when some have praised him for elevating their games.

And we might be getting one of his QBs with our first pick, too.

Porky said:
A lot of you football savants surely have empirical data to back up your claims that a slighter build equals a much higher risk of a reduced career length and/or an increased risk of severe injury over a guy with a larger frame.

Why is it that none of you have posted this yet? I'll continue to wait.
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lol

Why do you ask from others what you never do? How about you present empirical data to back up your claim that physical size is irrelevant at the QB position? Not talking height, but frame.

We'll be waiting for your detailed analysis that you demand from others. :rolleyes:

DocBar said:
I think they should make whichever QB they draft start the season with a clipboard in their hands and only play them when they are clearly ready to play. Especially since it's going to be a transitional year for the OL. Let Mills take the lumps as the OL finds its way.
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Not a chance, because it's the Houston Texans. They'll be marketing whoever they pick before he even gets to camp. lol

I agree with you, though. I'd like to see them exercise some patience and restraint when developing a young QB, but it's never been their M.O.
 
banned1976 said:
If I think I can get Hooker in the 4th, or fairly painlessly move back into the third round and take him, no.

I just feel like 2023 is all about getting the stage set for a quarterback. They can wait on Hooker to heal for a year.
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I really hope so. But in that scenario, why use a draft pick on one at all?
That's why you bring in a vet to bridge - one that is better than Mills.
Take a swing at a good one next year and those appear to be Drake Maye, Caleb Williams and Bo Nix.
 
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AcresHomesTexan said:
Elway and Eli were technically drafted by a team and then immediately traded, so Elway was a career Bronco and Eli a career Giant.
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True, although the point of the tweet is that the tanking teams (the teams in position to draft them) did not win.

Not directed at you, but i dont think the point of the tweet was that top three qbs generally dont win superbowls, but rather a general indictment of the teams that are bad enough to be drafting in the top three to draft said qbs.

Hopefully the Texans have turned a corner and can add another name to that list if they go qb.
 
Texansphan said:
I really hope so. But in that scenario, why use a draft pick on one at all?
That's why you bring in a vet to bridge - one that is better than Mills.
Take a swing at a good one next year and those appear to be Drake Maye, Caleb Williams and Bo Nix.
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Just say no to Caleb Williams, don't trust USC QB's period. If I miss on one the law of averages still in my favor.
Bo Nix is boom or bust, no thanks 2nd round prospect who will need development.
All that would leave Texans is Drake Maye who is still raw but does have elite traits. last I checked Texans would have to be selection near same slot next year to get him. I'm unwilling to take that chance or trade up to get him. Bryce & CJ are way more polished than Maye. I'll take one in the hand over two in the bush anyday and both Young and Stroud are better options today.
 
I know the pressure DeMeco is under to get a QB. All I'm hoping for is he use the 1.2 pick for one of those totally prime D-Linemen/Edge and then use the 1.12 pick on the best of the rest of the QBs at that point. You should be able to still get one of the top QBs at pick 12.

And no, that's not what I want them to do. DL with 1.2 and either an OL or DB with 1.12 is what I would like to see them do. And then take a QB if they have to with that 2.2 pick. Or trade up to the lower 1st round with that 2.2 pick and something else if they panic.
 
I think I've changed my mind again...

I hope the Colts or someone jumps up and drafts Young and the Texans go with Jalen Carter at 2.
And then Anthony Richardson at 12.

Not going to be upset if they grab a qb at two but I think Richardson would look really nice in this offense and he's got good size.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
I won't make you wait. It's simple. No one has bothered to do a compprehensive long-term collegiate or NFL comparison study. The Packers did a very limited "observation" of this subject and concluded that the smaller players spent more time on the Injury reports than did the larger players. But I wouldn't necessarily accept this isolated observation as valid.

If we are going to speak of Bryce and his injury history..........which is not being discussed at all for some reason, let's take a look. Oct of last year, he sustain an A/C shoulder separation when he was tackled and landed on his shoulder. He missed only 1 game. In the NFL, the most common mechanism for a QB to sustain an A/C separation is when a tackler comes down with his full weight on the QB, driving his shoulder into the turf.

What is concerning is that I have found that Young has sustained at least 4 A/C separations in the past, albeit apparently grade I. But in the NFL those NFL defensive players will be likely expected to place much more weight behind any similar trauma to the shoulder.
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I thought I had read that during the 2022 season but then couldn't locate it again. Thank for posting.
 
Porky said:
I had Stroud as a mid-first selection until that Georgia game. He really showed me something there and to me that made him a top 5 pick.

Yes it was one game, but it's important to note it's Georgia, not the little sisters of the poor - senior division. Stroud was on fire that game and threw numerous dimes under pressure and off-schedule against a ridiculously good college defense.

I guess the lingering question is did the guy grow in that game and will continue to progress in that area, or will he revert to the mean. I'd like to think with good pro coaching and a dedication to improvement, it's the former and not the latter.
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That was a coming out party that happened at the exact right time. CJ Stroud has been playing quite well for years. But, when the gun was pointed at him and all the lights were on...he came alive. He did things he apparently had held back on prior to that game.
 
beerlover said:
Just say no to Caleb Williams, don't trust USC QB's period. If I miss on one the law of averages still in my favor.
Bo Nix is boom or bust, no thanks 2nd round prospect who will need development.
All that would leave Texans is Drake Maye who is still raw but does have elite traits. last I checked Texans would have to be selection near same slot next year to get him. I'm unwilling to take that chance or trade up to get him. Bryce & CJ are way more polished than Maye. I'll take one in the hand over two in the bush anyday and both Young and Stroud are better options today.
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Iwill take any of these 3 plus McCarthy over any QB in this draft.
 
xtruroyaltyx said:
I think I've changed my mind again...

I hope the Colts or someone jumps up and drafts Young and the Texans go with Jalen Carter at 2.
And then Anthony Richardson at 12.

Not going to be upset if they grab a qb at two but I think Richardson would look really nice in this offense and he's got good size.
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Richardson?

Yuck
 
xtruroyaltyx said:
What is it that you do not like about him?
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He's 2 yrs away from maybe becoming a starting QB in the NFL if you're lucky. He has a great amount of talent and con make some all world throws. But he doesn't consistently throw with accuracy/anticipation.

If you like Fields then Richardson is your guy. I'll pass.
 
steelbtexan said:
He's 2 yrs away from maybe becoming a starting QB in the NFL if you're lucky. He has a great amount of talent and con make some all world throws. But he doesn't consistently throw with accuracy/anticipation.

If you like Fields then Richardson is your guy. I'll pass.
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Yeah, I don't really know how to respond to that. I only see the one critique in there about his accuracy and anticipation, which I don't really agree with...

But the thing is, Andrew Luck type prospects really don't come along that often. What I mean by that is, Luck didn't really have any glaring faults...He was more than mobile enough, had the size, the arm, the accuracy, the processing ability...He had it all...

There's a reason that Mahomes, Rodgers, Brady, Big Ben, ect, ect slipped in the draft...There were red flags that kept them from being top picks...But we know in hindsight that whatever those flaws were during scouting time didn't keep them from showing that they were more than worth a top selection...

I am saying all this because it seems that after the Watson crap, some have this "would not date, elbows too pointy" thing going on.

It's fine if you don't like a guy and wouldn't draft him because a red flag or two are just deal breakers, but when you said "Yuck" I thought there'd be more there than "Doesn't consistently through with accuracy/anticipation"....

I do like Richardson, Fields, Tiny Tim, or Levis for the direction this offense seems to be shaping up because I think they check enough boxes to be very effective in this offense. If we weren't going with the WCO and were implementing something that had more straight 5/7 step drop backs then Fields and Richardson probably wouldn't be high on my list. But with this type of offense I think they could be very effective. Regarding those two specifically, They have faults that I think coaching and growth can get them past IN THIS OFFENSE, and there are already enough positives there where they could be highly effective pretty soon. But for me, getting one of the top defenders at 1.2 and still getting a guy like Richardson at 12 would be ideal. JMO.
 
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I say pass on Bryce and Stroud and instead draft Haener or Hooker at #73 (from CLE) as we need pass rushers, LBs, a DT, a wr, a tag team partner for Pierce, a TE, RT, and a Center.
 
Porky said:
I had Stroud as a mid-first selection until that Georgia game. He really showed me something there and to me that made him a top 5 pick.

Yes it was one game, but it's important to note it's Georgia, not the little sisters of the poor - senior division. Stroud was on fire that game and threw numerous dimes under pressure and off-schedule against a ridiculously good college defense.

I guess the lingering question is did the guy grow in that game and will continue to progress in that area, or will he revert to the mean. I'd like to think with good pro coaching and a dedication to improvement, it's the former and not the latter.
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Does anyone know which QB trainers this year's draft prospects are going to? I assume Gruden is persona non grata in that area anymore.
 
xtruroyaltyx said:
Yeah, I don't really know how to respond to that. I only see the one critique in there about his accuracy and anticipation, which I don't really agree with...

But the thing is, Andrew Luck type prospects really don't come along that often. What I mean by that is, Luck didn't really have any glaring faults...He was more than mobile enough, had the size, the arm, the accuracy, the processing ability...He had it all...

There's a reason that Mahomes, Rodgers, Brady, Big Ben, ect, ect slipped in the draft...There were red flags that kept them from being top picks...But we know in hindsight that whatever those flaws were during scouting time didn't keep them from showing that they were more than worth a top selection...

I am saying all this because it seems that after the Watson crap, some have this "would not date, elbows too pointy" thing going on.

It's fine if you don't like a guy and wouldn't draft him because a red flag or two are just deal breakers, but when you said "Yuck" I thought there'd be more there than "Doesn't consistently through with accuracy/anticipation"....

I do like Richardson, Fields, Tiny Tim, or Levis for the direction this offense seems to be shaping up because I think they check enough boxes to be very effective in this offense. If we weren't going with the WCO and were implementing something that had more straight 5/7 step drop backs then Fields and Richardson probably wouldn't be high on my list. But with this type of offense I think they could be very effective. Regarding those two specifically, They have faults that I think coaching and growth can get them past IN THIS OFFENSE, and there are already enough positives there where they could be highly effective pretty soon. But for me, getting one of the top defenders at 1.2 and still getting a guy like Richardson at 12 would be ideal. JMO.
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Agree to disagree.

Throwing with accuracy and anticipation are 2 of the biggest things that are needed for the WCO to be effective. See the Walsh offense. It's a plus if you can run like Steve Young but out of the 2 Montana was much more effective than Young. With this said you cant be a statue and be effective, although before he got hurt Schaub did have some success. I see Purdy as a slightly more athletic Schaub. I see Richardson as a slightly more athletic Lance but they both have the same issues.
 
Double Barrel said:
Maybe, or maybe Mahomes is so good that O'Brien could still be here after finally making it to an AFC Championship game.

OB did not break QBs. Quite the opposite when some have praised him for elevating their games.

And we might be getting one of his QBs with our first pick, too.
Name a QB he's developed into an NFL QB other than Watson, who feasted on a lot of broken plays. He can probably talk Xs' & O's with the best of them but he doesn't have any QB, other than Watson who's done anything in the NFL. Don't even bother mentioning Brady. We all know he didn't do anything to develop Brady.
I guess we'll see with how Mac Jones develops with OB as his OC. Jones looked capable under McDaniels. Not so much under Judge/Patricia. Let's re-visit this post in a year.
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Texansballer74 said:
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Not really

I didn't see Young raising another Heisman. Maybe I missed something

Stroud looked a lot like he did 2 yrs ago, last yr. I didn't see any real improvement. Same guy, top 10-15 NFL QB.

Levis definitely regressed and drafting him on traits isn't something that I would risk 1-2 on.

Hooker is the only guy who really showed improvement and he got hurt.

Surely you can see why I dont like this QB class.
 
steelbtexan said:
Agree to disagree.

Throwing with accuracy and anticipation are 2 of the biggest things that are needed for the WCO to be effective. See the Walsh offense. It's a plus if you can run like Steve Young but out of the 2 Montana was much more effective than Young. With this said you cant be a statue and be effective, although before he got hurt Schaub did have some success. I see Purdy as a slightly more athletic Schaub. I see Richardson as a slightly more athletic Lance but they both have the same issues.
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If you like Josh Allen, then Richardson is your guy. Lance hasn't shown jack crap at the NFL level. If accuracy and anticipation are your main traits with a QB, Stroud is your guy. He might actually be able to throw on bootlegs better than when being moved off his spot due to that being the structure of the play. Young would greatly benefit from the bootlegs and moving the pocket. It will give him better throwing lanes.
If I were drafting a developmental QB, it would be Richardson, Levis, or Hooker. Hell, all of them are developmental QBs, in all honesty.
I'd be ecstatic if the Texans drafted BPA, other than QB, at 1.2 and 1.12 and picked up Hooker in the 2nd or third, or even if they traded back up onto the late 1st round to get him. Or trade back at 1.2 and 1.12 to get extra picks. The Texans have a lot of huge holes to fix. I expect a few draft day trades with Caserio if there aren't players they love at a particular draft spot.
 
DocBar said:
If you like Josh Allen, then Richardson is your guy. Lance hasn't shown jack crap at the NFL level. If accuracy and anticipation are your main traits with a QB, Stroud is your guy. He might actually be able to throw on bootlegs better than when being moved off his spot due to that being the structure of the play. Young would greatly benefit from the bootlegs and moving the pocket. It will give him better throwing lanes.
If I were drafting a developmental QB, it would be Richardson, Levis, or Hooker. Hell, all of them are developmental QBs, in all honesty.
I'd be ecstatic if the Texans drafted BPA, other than QB, at 1.2 and 1.12 and picked up Hooker in the 2nd or third, or even if they traded back up onto the late 1st round to get him. Or trade back at 1.2 and 1.12 to get extra picks. The Texans have a lot of huge holes to fix. I expect a few draft day trades with Caserio if there aren't players they love at a particular draft spot.
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Hooker is the guy I would want to try to develop.

If I wanted Stroud I would draft McKee and avoid having to deal with Stroud's POS agent. They're basically the same guy, only McKee has to work with a bunch of 3 stars and Stroud works with a bunch of 5 stars.
 
Man are we really going to trade some serious draft capital to move up one spot (which we blew in the first place by telling our HC we were going to fire him but let him continue to coach) just to draft a 5’11” 190 pound QB without elite quickness or speed that played with a bunch of 5 stars and has never faced real adversity like he will with the Texans. Come on- Seriously?!!!
 
GanadoUHCoog said:
Man are we really going to trade some serious draft capital to move up one spot (which we blew in the first place by telling our HC we were going to fire him but let him continue to coach) just to draft a 5’11” 190 pound QB without elite quickness or speed that played with a bunch of 5 stars and has never faced real adversity like he will with the Texans. Come on- Seriously?!!!
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No we are not.
 
NFL Draft Buzz has nothing but praise to say about Bryce Young. But, they do point out one thing that the Texans are sorely lacking at the moment. A solid offensive line to protect him. It can be fixed, but it's most likely going to take a full season to get it right. Can Young stay alive long enough for the O'Line to jell? That is the question. I've been opposed to drafting him due to his lack of size, but it would be fun to watch if he can bring the same excitement to the team that he's had in Alabama. Here's the paragraph in his write up I'm referring to.

"The only major negative we can find to Young is his susceptibility to injury, and while playing behind an elite (for the most part) Tide offensive line he's been able to stay on the field - behind a subpar basement-dwelling pro line things could turn bad, quickly. This is a potentially serious issue - any team that drafts him will need to have the team to keep him upright. Despite this we still consider Bryce Young to be the best player in the class and easily worthy of the top pick in the 2023 NFL Draft."

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Bryce Young Quarterback Alabama | NFL Draft Profile & Scouting Report

Rating: 93.6 Rank: #1 Forty: 4.52 Bryce Young has the ability to become a generational talent at the next level. He has impressive arm talent, excellent overall accuracy, elite mobility, an...
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xtruroyaltyx said:
I think I've changed my mind again...

I hope the Colts or someone jumps up and drafts Young and the Texans go with Jalen Carter at 2.
And then Anthony Richardson at 12.

Not going to be upset if they grab a qb at two but I think Richardson would look really nice in this offense and he's got good size.
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I'd be very wary at taking Richardson at 1.12. He's got very limited starting experience. The NFL is littered with draft busts that have limited starting experience. Mock draftniks have horrible records as to when players are actually drafted. I know there are a ton of QB needy teams, but GMs are rated on drafts by and large. If they do take him, I hope they are prepared to sit him until he's ready. I like Richardson and think he could do well in the offensive scheme the Texans should roll out. I just don't think he'll be ready to start week one.
 
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I'd be very wary at taking Richardson at 1.12. He's got very limited starting experience. The NFL is littered with draft busts that have limited starting experience. Mock draftniks have horrible records as to when players are actually drafted. I know there are a ton of QB needy teams, but GMs are rated on drafts by and large. If they do take him, I hope they are prepared to sit him until he's ready. I like Richardson and think he could do well in the offensive scheme the Texans should roll out. I just don't think he'll be ready to start week one.
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The NFL is littered with busts period. My assessment isn't related to any draftniks either as I have maybe only looked at 3 or 4 mock drafts total. I do watch a lot of scouting videos though. Also, I am not a fan of taking a guy and going with the mindset of sitting them with a pre-conceived notion they are not ready. Bring whoever it is to camp and if there is no entrenched starter make it an open competition. Best man wins the job.
 
I want to discuss the ZBS and the possibilities for the Texans - will we look more like the 49ers?
I guess that comes down to who they draft.
Does a ZBS scheme necessarily demand a mobile QB? Etc,.
Was conversing with @DocBar and the topic of ZBS came up. ZBS often uses a full back as an additional blocker, running back or receiver.
This raises the possibility of Texans drafting a guy like Bijan Robinson as he excels at all three.
If he is still on the board at#12, it will be very tempting for them.
The other way they could go is with Hunter Leupke or Jack Colletto - remember him?
As many of you know, I am very bullish on a powerful ground attack and always pound the table for a back I really fancy and the distinct possibility that the zbs is where we are going excites me.
It will allow any QB we draft to settle in with less pressure on him and be able to perform well just like the rookie for 49ers did when he was thrust into the front line. He wasn't as powerful a runner as they maybe would have liked like Trey Lance would have been but still managed to win 6 straight.
Does this mean guys like Levis and Richardson are also on Texans radar?
You guys can undoubtedly think up more than I have raised here so I will open it up.
 
xtruroyaltyx said:
I think his accuracy and anticipation at the stage of development he's at are fine.
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You think 53% completion percentage is fine? That's Taysom Hill numbers. Actually, Hill's numbers were a little better in college. But Richardson played in the SEC.

Richardson has no business in this draft. He should have gone into the portal and got with a good college QB coach. He's not as close to NFL ready as Malik Willis, and we saw what a disaster that was. Richardson had better go to a team with a premier NFL QB coach, like Andy Reid, or he will become a total bust.
 
Texansphan said:
Does a ZBS scheme necessarily demand a mobile QB? Etc,.
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Succeeding in today's NFL requires some mobility from the QB position. Maybe not Lamar Jackson type mobility. But statues are going the way of the dinosaur. WCO incorporates rollouts and moving pockets, so there's at least that ability required. Think Aaron Rodgers as he moves and resets the pocket. It's pretty rare to see top QBs come out of college with zero to little mobility today, so I don't see that as an issue for the Texans in selecting a QB.
 
Lucky said:
Succeeding in today's NFL requires some mobility from the QB position. Maybe not Lamar Jackson type mobility. But statues are going the way of the dinosaur. WCO incorporates rollouts and moving pockets, so there's at least that ability required. Think Aaron Rodgers as he moves and resets the pocket. It's pretty rare to see top QBs come out of college with zero to little mobility today, so I don't see that as an issue for the Texans in selecting a QB.
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I know Young has some mobility and escapabilty so he must look attractive to Texans with his smarts and other top qualities as well.
Davis Mills may be relegated to #3 on the Texans depth chart.
Even if we do draft a QB with our first pick, it would be wise for Texans to bring in a mobile vet familiar with the WCO to be our #2.
Who would you recommend as draftee and vet - if any?
 
Lucky said:
You think 53% completion percentage is fine? That's Taysom Hill numbers. Actually, Hill's numbers were a little better in college. But Richardson played in the SEC.

Richardson has no business in this draft. He should have gone into the portal and got with a good college QB coach. He's not as close to NFL ready as Malik Willis, and we saw what a disaster that was. Richardson had better go to a team with a premier NFL QB coach, like Andy Reid, or he will become a total bust.
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What do you think of Richardson getting drafted by the Seahawks? That seems to be a good destination for him study under Carroll while Geno plays out a possible contract extension of 2-3 years.

I think that would be ideal for all parties.
 
Lucky said:
You think 53% completion percentage is fine? That's Taysom Hill numbers. Actually, Hill's numbers were a little better in college. But Richardson played in the SEC.

Richardson has no business in this draft. He should have gone into the portal and got with a good college QB coach. He's not as close to NFL ready as Malik Willis, and we saw what a disaster that was. Richardson had better go to a team with a premier NFL QB coach, like Andy Reid, or he will become a total bust.
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I can see him going to a team like Ravens and doing okay - may be a bumpy ride as he earns his stripes but I reckon his game will suit where Ravens left off with LJ.
 
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