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Not a "good evaluator of football talent" ? Appreciate your candor/honesty EDO783. Hey man I'm right there with you.
I'm by no means a coach nor a draft expert in college athlete talents nowadays. I decided to narrow it down to the top quarterbacks in the draft. So the other day to catch up with what's out there since the Texans will be drafting plenty to fill many holes I spent the entire morning looking at the top QB's on YT videos and other analyst sources. I really did not know much about Young and Stroud but I know more now. I'm not impressed with either one of them as top 2 QBs. Yes they are talented and awesome but for the Texans imho I would concentrate elsewhere and draft one later. Then there was this Levis and he did intrigued me the most. Out of all 3 I liked him the most to fit the Texans and maybe pull a pick 2 in round 1 or 2 on him while using the first pick to fill another position or trade down. I'm not a big fan of drafting QB first pick unless he's going to a good operating team.
I find Young to be short thin shape and fragile mobility. How long will his health last being bombarded to smithereens. Previous QB liked to run around but remember he got hurt with the leg or ankle no?
Shroud prefer him over Young I think they are both great athletes deserving so.
Levis to me is a sleeper pick. Has the tangibles to be a great leader. He's a good size and runs like it too. He is very driven awesome character and also a great passer and manager of a team. Looks to be comfortable as pocket passer but he does do things outside as well.
With Levis there will be no drama and the Texans don't need anymore of that. More importantly he will give the Texans an opportunity to fill some other holes in the draft.
This is the first time guys I'm putting here my amateur assessment on football players and the QB draft selection next year.
Instead of loading up just highlights of these three QB I'll put this one out about more than a QB.
I'm also not a good evaluator but sincerely after over 60 years watching football I have a common sense gist of players and the directions of teams. I tend to agree that many top draft picks have also become duds. But this draft with the Texans I see it more an overall evaluation of needy positions around the QB first. Yes if a team is already primed and good then by all means go for the top QB picks. The Texans I think not imho they should start rebuilding both sides of the ball and with 11 picks be able to find some QB probably behind Mills at first. BUt then again they could get a veteran QB a drafted QB and fill all those holes.
Interesting aspect as well there.. lol idnk Max Duggan I'll have to research that one too. Well it's tough decision and basically stating that if they decide no first pick QB then that only leads to that option a defensive player or other. Who? Then watch the 2nd pick first round. Waiting for the 2nd round for QB may not be good unless as you say trade up or down. Ruling out a veteran QB idnk
Yes many are focusing only on QB at 1.1. Michael Penix should be there at 32. Trade down from one and perhaps from the Browns spot. His stats and play is comparable to Stroud and Young. 12 ~ selections plus even one starter in FA would be very significant. If Penix fails as many are saying Young and Stroud will, we are no worse off and still have the same chance in 2024 to get a quarterback. If Penix can be the guy we are way ahead. I would love and think we can get a total of five round twos in 2023 draft.
Baker idnk back to research again lol. Allow me to also add the play calling coaching. I understand first year stuff but looking at the entire picture from the outside this season expecting some improved results instead it's been the opposite.
Wow I have lots to learn but then that's why I'm liking this draft lesson on the QBs out there. Penix idkn back to the research lol
Hey there I just searched Penix and announced today just found this is he going back Huskies 2023
www.si.com
Why are the Rams tanking? They don't even have their own 1st round pick.
I meant the Texans tanking. I guess they didn’t want to sign a qb who could maybe win 2 more games lol.
Baker won only 1 game in Carolina. Don't know how he would've won 2 here. I don't think Tom Brady could win 2 with this group.
They don't want to lose more with Wolford and his 22.4 QBR
so give him a good OL we only need a RG and OC and give him a WR; that's easily done. IF he bombs we can go QB again in 2024 for such a high need position but if he is THE QB-- dang.
Carter #1 overall?? Wouldn't it make more sense to trade down to another lottery team that wants to reach on a QB and get an extra 2/3 and still pick in the top 10?
Watching some Bryce Young highlights tonight. Reminds me a LOT of Kyler Murray in college, except build is a little skinnier. Good accuracy, pocket presence and enough arm. IMO, the problem here is projectability because Young is going to have much smaller pocket to work with in the NFL. In college, Murray/Young look great because they have a 3-5 yard bubble around them on most plays, protected by a Tier-1A offensive line. In the NFL, the pocket become condensed and they'll be more tipped balls and narrow sightlines for someone with a small frame. Going to be injury risk also.
I'm on board for Richardson late 1st or top of the second. Let him sit for a year to learn while the rest of the team develops. Then take Marvin Harrison Jr. next year.
He said that very same thing about Illinois defense when he was there and said if he only had more time with them, he could have fully implemented his defense and then boy oh boy! They might have finished 50th (they were 97th of 128 in 2020)!
No, I wouldn't take Kyler #1. He's a middle of the pack starter, which is better than a bottom of the barrel starter, for sure.
Can’t compare Young to Murray. Murray is talented, but they always knew he had to play a certain way, heck they hired his college coach to make sure that happened
Which team do you think wants to trade up?
That seems a little.... much.
The talent at Alabama is not that great this year. It's too young and Young has been carrying that team despite OB. They do not have a top tier OL or top notch receivers. A couple good backs maybe
And that's why you and Rick Smith could never make a trade out of #1
What does that have to do with what I said?
again?
You propose a Madden type trade and already to blame Cal if it doesn't happen? Man, you have to be joking with this fantasy stuff. Just stop it, it makes you look foolish
Rodgers wasn't picked in the top of the 1st round. He also went to a team with an established starter, and future HOF QB on the roster. Rodgers didn't have to play. He was a luxury pick. Teams that pick at the top usually don't have that star QB, nor do they usually have a very good team otherwise. When teams pick a QB at the top of the 1st round, it isn't to sit them.
Yes it is
I am not a Kyler Murray fan but setting aside his incomplete 2022 season, his NFL stats have been very good. It is up to the general manager and or head coach to surround quarterback with the players and play book to succeed. We just have a poor history of doing so.
He should've stayed in school
What if they or another team thinks there is a sure thing stud at 1. 1?