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Personally, I'm completely out of rats asses to give, so I just pick random posts to argue with.
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You want to knowingly insult?Yes.
What group would you like to be in? I want to know, as that way I won't unknowingly insult you.
Personally, I'm completely out of rats asses to give, so I just pick random posts to argue with.
You want to knowingly insult?
Can you imagine the conversation around here if he'd have picked Ahmed Gardner instead of Derek Stingley?Everybody should be reminding you that this is Caserio’s first GM job. Second, what did you expect based on the absolute shite show this organization was left in by OB?
I wonder if that was also a Lovie decision. Which one did Caserio like better? I think Lovie was sold on Stingley, so Caserio got him.Can you imagine the conversation around here if he'd have picked Ahmed Gardner instead of Derek Stingley?
I believe Lovie said he liked Stingley better because he was good at both zone and man coverages. He saw Gardner as a press man cover with little exposure to zoneI wonder if that was also a Lovie decision. Which one did Caserio like better? I think Lovie was sold on Stingley, so Caserio got him.
That's what I was thinking, but I couldn't remember if my memory was correct.I believe Lovie said he liked Stingley better because he was good at both zone and man coverages. He saw Gardner as a press man cover with little exposure to zone
That's fine.I don’t see the team getting a 2nd. Even if they eat the salary:
Offseason starting a tad early this year... much like 2005
That's fine.
It's a bad idea to trade him considering the cap.
I didn't think they'd ask for a 2nd. But if they get a 2nd, even if they pay some of the 2023 salary ($5 or $6M) I'd be OK with that
No, we still had some hope then... had a QB tooShoot. I thought we were here back in 2019 first game of the season after Hopkins was traded and OB was promoted to GM.
Again, that's fine. I don't want to trade him. But I will for a 2ndI’d love a 2nd for Cooks. But I don’t see a team giving that up for him. Even if Texans eat the salary like the Browns did for Osweiler (and gained a pick that turned into Nick Chubb).
Thank you sir Opt you beat me to this. Man exactlyEverybody should be reminding you that this is Caserio’s first GM job. Second, what did you expect based on the absolute shite show this organization was left in by OB?
Caserio has been digging out of this since his arrival while trying to field a somewhat respectable team. It wasn’t going to be easy.
I had high hopes for this Lovie Smith plus his staff and they’ve done their best to completely destroy that faith. Their systems have regressed the Texans versus building off the final 5 games of last season. I believe the players may be the next group to quit on these coaches.
Yep lolIs this the part of the year we give up on the season and argue the same thing over and over again in different ways? And then people start labeling people in groups?
Asking for a friend.
Is that you Deshaun?I try not to, but sometimes it's just to tempting.
I wonder if that was also a Lovie decision. Which one did Caserio like better? I think Lovie was sold on Stingley, so Caserio got him.
That’s fine, but the shit show he took over isn’t much worse than the shit show he has now.
He brought in the QB. He brought in all those career special teams players and made them starters. He brought in the RB room he has, WRs, LBs, DL, OL, TEs. There’s only 9 players on this team from the 2020 roster and 2 of those are the K and LS.
So yeah, he took over shit, but he hasn’t replaced it with much.
Agree, but he hasn't had a full book of resources either - yes he had extra picks last draft, but no cash to make those big splashy FA signings.
This next off-season will finally give us a full picture.
Can you imagine the conversation around here if he'd have picked Ahmed Gardner instead of Derek Stingley?
Yeah, gotta give the rookies some time to adjust.I dont even think next yr will give a full picture. That wont happen until the 2024 season.
Early look for me is Stingley and Pitre look like they’re gonna be quality starters for a long time. If Stingley can get better at zone I’ll be very happy with that. Green is struggling, he’s had a couple good games a couple meh games and two really bad games. Obviously you’d like to see more out of a first rounder so this is looking negative so far but we’re not even halfway through his rookie year so I’m optimistic.Yeah, gotta give the rookies some time to adjust.
Still we should have a glimpse of their potential after a handful of games.
I'm crying a river for the guy who took $36 million guaranteed 8 months ago.
I'm crying a river for the guy who took $36 million guaranteed 8 months ago.
Yes and that's why I support the team over individual players. Too many people want to think that these guys are their family members.I'm crying a river for the guy who took $36 million guaranteed 8 months ago.
The "team" is your case is a bunch of spoiled billionaires, as opposed to spoiled millionaires. But hey, support whom you want.And that's why I support the team over individual players.
I didn't say anything about the owners. Overreaction much?The "team" is your case is a bunch of spoiled billionaires, as opposed to spoiled millionaires. But hey, support whom you want.
How are you defining "the team"?I didn't say anything about the owners. Overreaction much?
Early look for me is Stingley and Pitre look like they’re gonna be quality starters for a long time. If Stingley can get better at zone I’ll be very happy with that. Green is struggling, he’s had a couple good games a couple meh games and two really bad games. Obviously you’d like to see more out of a first rounder so this is looking negative so far but we’re not even halfway through his rookie year so I’m optimistic.
Christian Harris has only played two games and they’ve been rough. But his tackling got better the second week already and also we barely have a dline so I think that makes it hard to evaluate him.
The Metchie thing is very unlucky hopefully he comes out ready to go next year. Dameon Pierce so far looks like an absolute steal.
So far I’d say 2022 draft looks meh. I’d push my feelings up to “good” if Green can improve to a consistent quality starter then I’d push that grade up to good
So now you all for and all in for trading Cooks?
Yes, he's checked out.
Green may be more hurt then we know, upper body something. He has not played as well since he came out in the Raiders game and went back in. Chest, pec, or something. CNDD would knowGreen’s best chance at improvement begins and ends with a new Center that can actually do his job. OL has never been 1 piece…it’s 5 pieces that have to fit and mesh.
Center to RT need to be addressed in the draft. Center has to be the top priority. I’d like to see Deculus get healthy so he can start.
Green's "chest injury" was a Grade II pectoral strain, which carries a 2-6 week return to FULL function. Meanwhile, he could and did play.......keeping his arm close to his body in order to compensate...........something that would definitely affect his performance (inability to contain his his man outside of his shoulder). Then this last game, he suffered a Grade I hamstring and is not on the Injury Report. He will be increased risk to re-injure playing Thursday.Green may be more hurt then we know, upper body something. He has not played as well since he came out in the Raiders game and went back in. Chest, pec, or something. CNDD would know
Shocking post of the day.Don't really see this as any new news, but...........I do like the fact that Avery has been exclusively working with Watson during Watson's absence from the Browns............as he has not uncommonly been at odds in philosophy with team coaches.
Browns general manager: Deshaun Watson to start against Texans on Dec. 4
Don't really see this as any new news, but...........I do like the fact that Avery has been exclusively working with Watson during Watson's absence from the Browns............as he has not uncommonly been at odds in philosophy with team coaches.
Browns general manager: Deshaun Watson to start against Texans on Dec. 4
Q's doing his job. Green's pec is more the issue I thinkGreen’s best chance at improvement begins and ends with a new Center that can actually do his job. OL has never been 1 piece…it’s 5 pieces that have to fit and mesh.
Center to RT need to be addressed in the draft. Center has to be the top priority. I’d like to see Deculus get healthy so he can start.
Q's doing his job. Green's pec is more the issue I think
That Titan rush was coming from wherever they wanted it to. Blitz, 4-Man, 3-Man, and I’d even venture to say a 2-Man front would’ve been just as effective at getting pressure on Mills or shutting down the run.
I agree there's communication issues. We expect that. New Line, new way of doing things. You'd think they would be over that 6 or 7 games in. But things have happened. Green is not playing like he was early. Injury could explain that. McCray replaced Cann last game. McCray isn't very good.That Titan rush was coming from wherever they wanted it to. Blitz, 4-Man, 3-Man, and I’d even venture to say a 2-Man front would’ve been just as effective at getting pressure on Mills or shutting down the run.
This is something I've wondered and commented on before.It's Q's job to call and shift protections in this offense. I'm not convinced he's very good at it.
I think this could be part of the reason Mills is antsy sometimes. Last year, he was setting the protections, and I think he probably trusted himself more than he trusts Q.
I'm wondering just how much that chest injury is affecting Green. Maybe he needs to sit out until it is healed. Unfortunately, we don't really have anyone else to fill in for him. Someone mentioned moving Deculus inside to Guard, and I think he may be better there, so why not try it. I don't think Deculus could be much worse than McCray or McDermott.I agree there's communication issues. We expect that. New Line, new way of doing things. You'd think they would be over that 6 or 7 games in. But things have happened. Green is not playing like he was early. Injury could explain that. McCray replaced Cann last game. McCray isn't very good.
There was one play where McCray & Q double teamed Simmons (I believe) then McCray came off the double to help Howard or pick up a late blitzer (Howard didn't seem to need any help so I'm guessing). He didn't do a good job of pushing Simmons or holding Simmons for Q to get under him. It's possible to believe Q didn't do a good job getting under Simmons. Either could be true, both could be true.
But overall, it looked (to me) Q is doing what he's supposed to do. Green isn't 100%. & McCray is not as good as Cann.