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austins23 said:
So the Cardinals got DHop (suspended for a few games) and the Texans now have what from that horrible trade? Nothing?
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I hated the trade. I hate the trade. But we're here, now.... all the bad decisions & good decisions have culminated in the now.

& now we've got a dynamic runner wearing 31. Coincidence? I think not.

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Tell me again why Lovie wasn't head coach last year instead of Culley?

Remind me why he is head coach this year.

Is it because he is the polar opposite to O"Brien?

He seems to be a nice guy, is that a requirement to be head coach?

I hope the guy is successful, but I won't hold my breath.

:coffee::backsout:
 
cuppacoffee said:
Tell me again why Lovie wasn't head coach last year instead of Culley?

Remind me why he is head coach this year.

Is it because he is the polar opposite to O"Brien?

He seems to be a nice guy, is that a requirement to be head coach?

I hope the guy is successful, but I won't hold my breath.

:coffee::backsout:
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There was a different plan in place to try and woo Watson back into the fold.....didn't work out, but you can bet Lovie was on the staff for just this purpose.
 
OptimisticTexan said:
There was a different plan in place to try and woo Watson back into the fold.....didn't work out, but you can bet Lovie was on the staff for just this purpose.
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Thanks for the response.

You're probably right.

Not too sure picking a coach just to appease any disgruntled player is a smart decision though.

I'm pleasantly surprised at the co-operation between coach and gm, hope they succeed.

:coffee:
 
cuppacoffee said:
Thanks for the response.

You're probably right.

Not too sure picking a coach just to appease any disgruntled player is a smart decision though.

I'm pleasantly surprised at the co-operation between coach and gm, hope they succeed.

:coffee:
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Add it to the massive list of dumb decisions by the McNairs over the years.

Hopefully, Caserio was a good decision and turns it around. Jury is still out.
 
austins23 said:
No not at all. Just a reminder of how OB railroaded this team and left a wake on his way out.
what a complete dooshnozzle this cat is.
and to think”they” let him get away with it…
Ok…. I’m done with it. In Lovie I trust!
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Up until the infamous fake-kick play in the P/O game with KC O'Brien was a fair to midland NFL HC, but about then the late founders son & widow entered with their decision to make O'Brien the GM, and so then as an NFL GM no
way he gets no-billed by any Harris county GJ for criminal charges.
 
Double Barrel said:
Add it to the massive list of dumb decisions by the McNairs over the years.

Hopefully, Caserio was a good decision and turns it around. Jury is still out.
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I have a question for you and the rest of y'all on this forum. What would it take for people to feel this team is turning things around?

In fairness to David Culley last season, I think he did as well as could be expected. As last season went on the team got better. By seasons end they were far from pushovers. David Culley was a first time head coach after many seasons of merely being a position coach. Surely he deserves a little credit for how things were at the end of last season. There was a serious talent gap and yet the team showed up and played hard. It is not like the team was on the verge of pulling a mutiny. They did not regress as the season went on but they progressed.

I think we will have more of a complete season this season and we will have a lot more to cheer about. I think Lovie's experience and past success as an NFL head coach bodes well for us! Pep appears to be a better offensive coordinator for our team as well! There should be no doubt as to whether we are headed in the right direction or not!

Some of the gloom and doom I have read on this forum makes no sense to me. We are in the early stages of a rebuild and it looks like we have some talented young players who will be good enough to make immediate contributions to our team! That is something I look forward to! Overall I think we are headed in the right direction! I hope I am right!
 
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TxnsJuggernaut1 said:
I have a question for you and the rest of y'all on this forum. What would it take for people to feel this team is turning things around?

In fairness to David Culley last season, I think he did as well as could be expected. As last season went on the team got better. By seasons end they were far from pushovers. Dave Culley was a first time head coach after many seasons of merely being a position coach. Surely he deserves a little credit for how things were at the end of last season. There was a serious talent gap and yet the team showed up and played hard. It is not like the team was on the verge of pulling a mutiny. They did not regress as the season went on but they progressed.

I think we will have more of a complete season this season and we will have a lot more to cheer about. I think Lovie's experience and past success as an NFL head coach bodes well for us! There should be no doubt as to whether we are headed in the right direction or not!

Some of the gloom and doom I have read on this forum makes no sense to me. We are in the early stages of a rebuild and it looks like we have some talented young players who will be good enough to make immediate contributions to our team! That is something I look forward to! Overall I think we are headed in the right direction! I hope I am right!
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I believe this to be true and Idont expect much improvement record wise. Why because I like how Caserio and Lovie are working together and adding what I believe are true difference makers tothe team. Of course I also believe Mills is the future at QB and caserio/Lovie have 2 more yrs of high picks to work with in the draft. I think Caserio is going to have drafts similar to this last draft in the next couple of yrs. So Lovie should have 10-12 quality players added to this roster and 5-6 of them will be star level players. Add them to this last draft group and the future is bright. so add this class of 4-5 really solid players and you have 14-17 really solid players added through the draft. This doesn't even include Mills/Collins and guys like Tunsil/Cooks or FA pickups as the team grows. The future is bright.
 
TxnsJuggernaut1 said:
I have a question for you and the rest of y'all on this forum. What would it take for people to feel this team is turning things around?

In fairness to David Culley last season, I think he did as well as could be expected. As last season went on the team got better. By seasons end they were far from pushovers. David Culley was a first time head coach after many seasons of merely being a position coach. Surely he deserves a little credit for how things were at the end of last season. There was a serious talent gap and yet the team showed up and played hard. It is not like the team was on the verge of pulling a mutiny. They did not regress as the season went on but they progressed.

I think we will have more of a complete season this season and we will have a lot more to cheer about. I think Lovie's experience and past success as an NFL head coach bodes well for us! Pep appears to be a better offensive coordinator for our team as well! There should be no doubt as to whether we are headed in the right direction or not!

Some of the gloom and doom I have read on this forum makes no sense to me. We are in the early stages of a rebuild and it looks like we have some talented young players who will be good enough to make immediate contributions to our team! That is something I look forward to! Overall I think we are headed in the right direction! I hope I am right!
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Well, so far they've spent 2 offseasons clearing out the OB trash. This was going to take time regardless of who came in.

In fairness to David Culley, he should have never been put in the situation the Texans put him in. He was severely underqualified and it showed. And it doesn't give me much confidence that they came that close to hiring someone even less qualified than Culley this year. Let that sink in.

I feel confident in saying that the Texans are finally in rebuild mode, but they aren't close yet. Anybody who thinks they can do what the Bengals did last year is delusional. @Lucky spelled it out in a post somewhere around here, and that is that the Texans and Bengals situations aren't even in the same zip code.

They might have a few pieces being put in place with this latest draft, Pierce, Stingley, Pitre, but the depth on this team just still isn't there. Especially at the offensive skill positions. Just look at the RB and WR groups. After Pierce, Cooks and Collins, it's weak as hell. And that's assuming Collins has a break out that we're all hoping for, and that the rookie Pierce is the real deal. Still all unknowns to this point.

And none of us know what to expect at QB. I could make a list a mile long of QBs who had decent to even good 1st years, that regressed their 2nd year with most never amounting to anything after that. Mills has NFL game film on him now that DCs get to dissect. Can Mills make the adjustments? We will find out shortly. Even if he does and is say in the 13-17 range, is that good enough to go forward with him, or do they need to draft a QB?

I think 2022 is another year of struggle. I see them in the 4-6 win range this year. Hey, up from the 3-5 I had them at last year, so there's that. Next year they've got another loaded draft, as far as picks are concerned that is, and they'll know if Mills is who they want to roll with or not. Getting the QB situated, adding more core pieces, adding some difference making FAs, not just JAGs, and building up depth, is the only way they turn it around. Maybe then people can start thinking about them doing what the Bengals did.
 
I’d really like to see a TE added. Quitoriano is injured and wont be ready for start of season. Plus it remains to be seen if he’s even an upgrade over Pharaoh Brown.

Going into the season with Brevin Jordan and Pharaoh Brown (plus option of elevating Akins) is just like last season… sub optimal.

They gave the standard 6th for player plus 7th deal for Shaheen before it got cancelled by the failed physical. I’d expect them to do that again for another player. Or just pick one up that is out there… Weakest position group on the team.
 
TheRealJoker said:
I’d really like to see a TE added. Quitoriano is injured and wont be ready for start of season. Plus it remains to be seen if he’s even an upgrade over Pharaoh Brown.

Going into the season with Brevin Jordan and Pharaoh Brown (plus option of elevating Akins) is just like last season… sub optimal.

They gave the standard 6th for player plus 7th deal for Shaheen before it got cancelled by the failed physical. I’d expect them to do that again for another player. Or just pick one up that is out there… Weakest position group on the team.
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We could trade for Geiski or whatever his name is from Miami...but its a blocking TE that we need and he's not a blocking TE....
 
TxnsJuggernaut1 said:
I have a question for you and the rest of y'all on this forum. What would it take for people to feel this team is turning things around?
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Win.

Ultimately, that's all that matters for a football franchise. All the marketing of "culture" and gameday experience is merely window dressing to the only thing that matters.

TxnsJuggernaut1 said:
In fairness to David Culley last season, I think he did as well as could be expected. As last season went on the team got better. By seasons end they were far from pushovers. David Culley was a first time head coach after many seasons of merely being a position coach. Surely he deserves a little credit for how things were at the end of last season. There was a serious talent gap and yet the team showed up and played hard. It is not like the team was on the verge of pulling a mutiny. They did not regress as the season went on but they progressed.

I think we will have more of a complete season this season and we will have a lot more to cheer about. I think Lovie's experience and past success as an NFL head coach bodes well for us! Pep appears to be a better offensive coordinator for our team as well! There should be no doubt as to whether we are headed in the right direction or not!

Some of the gloom and doom I have read on this forum makes no sense to me. We are in the early stages of a rebuild and it looks like we have some talented young players who will be good enough to make immediate contributions to our team! That is something I look forward to! Overall I think we are headed in the right direction! I hope I am right!
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I understand where you're coming from. In the last two decades, I've been on both sides of the aisle. I used to be a season ticket holder that bathed in the koolaide. I still wear a Texans hard hat and custom jersey to every game/event that I'm fortunate enough to attend. I'll always be a fan. Just maybe not a happy, shiny fan.

Ultimately, there is an old saying that comes to mind: burn me once, shame on you. Burn me twice, shame on me.

As a fan, it comes down to trust. And the McNairs burned that bridge a long time ago. I don't just give it back because they exist. I want to see a pattern of professionalism over a long period. They've started by trying to do the right thing with Lovie and Caserio. But it was a trip down to Stupid Town too many times to get to that point that ultimately turned off the optimism for a lot of fans.

I'm not nearly as critical of the franchise as I was when they were giving O'Brien and Easterby so much power. I've been advocating patience with the rebuild process in spite of the franchise denying they are rebuilding (there's that dishonesty from Kirby on display again, btw).

So we are seeing a turnaround, which answers your original question to some extent, and back to my point, we just need to see positive results. Well that, as well as a consistent pattern of the owner and his goofy sidekick staying out of the way of the football minds they've hired to run this franchise. They dug their own hole. It's not up to us to fill it.
 
cuppacoffee said:
Tell me again why Lovie wasn't head coach last year instead of Culley? NICK CASERIO'S (CASERBY) FIRST DECISION AS GM.

Remind me why he is head coach this year. DANIEL CALHOUN HAD SEEN ENOUGH OF NICK CASERIO'S CLOWN ACT ATTEMPTING TO HIRE A 2ND HC IN HIS 2ND YEAR. THE FIRST COSTING DANIEL CALHOUN $20,000,000 PLUS.

Is it because he is the polar opposite to O"Brien? NO, BECAUSE LOVIE HAS BEEN THERE AND DONE THAT AND IMMEDIATELY RETURNED THE TEXANS TO RESPECTABILITY. IT WAS THE BEST QUICK FIX AVAILABLE VS RETURNING TO SQUARE ONE WITH CASERBY.

He seems to be a nice guy, is that a requirement to be head coach? NO

I hope the guy is successful, but I won't hold my breath. WISE DECISION.

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See BOLD above.
 
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TexansBull said:
1. OB fired

2. Caserio

3. Lovie

4. Watson traded for 3 firsts

5. Pierce

Those are all good things.
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1. Didn’t JJ get O’Brien fired?
2. Yes. That’s in the unknown category.
3, ??? He was trying to get McCown the HC gig.
4. He re-signed Watson.
5. Piece was a Jack pick? That’s news to me.
 
Lucky said:
1. Didn’t JJ get O’Brien fired?
2. Yes. That’s in the unknown category.
3, ??? He was trying to get McCown the HC gig.
4. He re-signed Watson.
5. Piece was a Jack pick? That’s news to me.
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Whoa whoa whoa.

You just said name five positive things that happened since Jack got here. Those are that. You didn’t say there were conditions to that.

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TexansBull said:
You just said name five positive things that happened since Jack got here. Those are that. You didn’t say there were conditions to that.
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Oh, I knew where you were going with this. Just not letting you get away with that kind of absurdity.

They've gotten rid of pretty much everything O'Brien has touched. Time to finish the job and axe Jack.
 
Speedy said:
In fairness to David Culley, he should have never been put in the situation the Texans put him in. He was severely underqualified and it showed.
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I don't think any so called highly qualified head coaches could have gotten much more from the team in regards to wins than David Culley got. I think David Culley grew and the team grew with him as the season went on. I am not upset that he was replaced because I don't think we would ever have gotten much more from him than we did last season. In fact based on the league as a whole we may have lost more games and being his experience level is minimal, he most likely would have been the scapegoat!

I see us winning anywhere from six to eight games this season and given Lovie's experience most Texans fans will accept that outcome. It most likely would not have gone over as well under David Culley.
 
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Lucky said:
Oh, I knew where you were going with this. Just not letting you get away with that kind of absurdity.

They've gotten rid of pretty much everything O'Brien has touched. Time to finish the job and axe Jack.
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It’s absurd to say nothing positive has happened to the Texans since Easterby has been there and that’s he’s a bad luck charm some how. You framed the argument not me. Own it.

Do you tell your friends that Easterby planned 9/11?
 
TxnsJuggernaut1 said:
I have a question for you and the rest of y'all on this forum. What would it take for people to feel this team is turning things around?

In fairness to David Culley last season, I think he did as well as could be expected. As last season went on the team got better. By seasons end they were far from pushovers. David Culley was a first time head coach after many seasons of merely being a position coach. Surely he deserves a little credit for how things were at the end of last season. There was a serious talent gap and yet the team showed up and played hard. It is not like the team was on the verge of pulling a mutiny. They did not regress as the season went on but they progressed.

I think we will have more of a complete season this season and we will have a lot more to cheer about. I think Lovie's experience and past success as an NFL head coach bodes well for us! Pep appears to be a better offensive coordinator for our team as well! There should be no doubt as to whether we are headed in the right direction or not!

Some of the gloom and doom I have read on this forum makes no sense to me. We are in the early stages of a rebuild and it looks like we have some talented young players who will be good enough to make immediate contributions to our team! That is something I look forward to! Overall I think we are headed in the right direction! I hope I am right!
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I think they're headed in the right direction. I think last year was a wasted year with Culley and that old ass roster. Last year should've been filled with young players like this year. All in all, its going to come down to if the qb is taken care of especially in the AFC.
 
leebigeztx said:
I think they're headed in the right direction. I think last year was a wasted year with Culley and that old ass roster. Last year should've been filled with young players like this year. All in all, its going to come down to if the qb is taken care of especially in the AFC.
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I like what they did last yr under difficult circumstances. Caserio found 5 guys that can play last off-season.
 
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