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Head Coach Candidate (Lovie Smith Hired) 2/7/22

Decim8 said:
An honest question here, but what's so good about Gannon? Hasn't the eagles defense been meh?
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I seem to remember Marvin Lewis having a bad ass defense then he was meh as a HC.

And frankly, I don't necessarily want a HC who's going to be a coordinator as well. Can the dude lead and make good decisions, on his staff as well as on the field? He's a guy with 11 years of coaching and moving up the ladder along the way. He's also got 3 years of scouting experience. Maybe that helps in his evaluation of talent and knowing what to do with that talent.

Other than Flores, who's coaching career is likely done, Gannon seems the best qualified of those the Texans have interviewed. The fact that there were only 5 that they did interview, with 2 of those having little to no experience, is a bigger issue. But with the options the Texans have made for themselves, I'd be more than OK with giving Gannon a shot.
 
BorrowMe said:
Are we hiring him for his defense or his Head Coaching qualities?

Being a Head Coach and a coordinator are two completely things.


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From what I’ve read/heard- he is a very good communicator, very organized, and has many leadership qualities. He’s very close with Brandon Staley(the highly regarded defensive minded coach who took the Chargers HC job this past year).

He’s relatively young, but has been coaching in the NFL since 2007.I’m pretty relieved that it’s not McCown. I’ve gotten pretty tired of the Easterby narrative and I’m sure many others have too.

Choosing Head Coaches are basically a crapshoot. Some of the “recycled” coaches who have generally been regarded as “good candidates” end up failing miserably. I.E Rex Ryan in Buffalo.

I wish Gannon all the success in the world, hope he can put a program in place to REALLY establish a winning culture, player development, and eventually a place where players want to come and compete for Super Bowls.

This feels entirely different than the Culley hire. In a good way
 
JB said:
What Ivy league? Cal has his 4 years from UT Austin-including 4 years on the football team and his masters from Rice
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Very true, I forgot that Ivy League is actually just several northern universities. The term gets thrown around so much it’s lost some meaning. That said Rice is actually ranked just behind Yale and is actually ahead of several Ivy League schools.
 
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leebigeztx said:
Ok, gotcha. I don't think there would be an uproar if it was Gannon. Sure Flores has more experience even before he became the DC. O mean if the Texans are in rebuild mode, look at what he did in Miami while in rebuild mode. It makes too much sense which means Texans probably doesn't do it.
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Lot of reports that basically say Flores is another OB with his temper. I can see why Texans want no part of that.
 
Speedy said:
I seem to remember Marvin Lewis having a bad ass defense then he was meh as a HC.

And frankly, I don't necessarily want a HC who's going to be a coordinator as well. Can the dude lead and make good decisions, on his staff as well as on the field? He's a guy with 11 years of coaching and moving up the ladder along the way. He's also got 3 years of scouting experience. Maybe that helps in his evaluation of talent and knowing what to do with that talent.

Other than Flores, who's coaching career is likely done, Gannon seems the best qualified of those the Texans have interviewed. The fact that there were only 5 that they did interview, with 2 of those having little to no experience, is a bigger issue. But with the options the Texans have made for themselves, I'd be more than OK with giving Gannon a shot.
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There weren’t that many good candidates available period if you stop and think about it. Particularly if people are wanting the Texans to stay away from Patriot coaches. Not to mention there seemed to be an unusually large number of teams replacing HCs this year, 8 of them to be exact.
 
maverick512000 said:
There weren’t that many good candidates available period if you stop and think about it. Particularly if people are wanting the Texans to stay away from Patriot coaches. Not to mention there seemed to be an unusually large number of teams replacing HCs this year, 8 of them to be exact.
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That’s fine, but they didn’t even bother with most of the guys who’ve been hired. No Daboll, no Eberflus, not even McDaniels. Also no Leftwich, no Bowles, no Mayo, no DeMeco … no, they were in on Hines Ward and making McCown a finalist as part of their plan. There were plenty to interview and they didn’t bring in any of them.

Now it’s also possible that they were turned down, so there might be that.
 
Speedy said:
That’s fine, but they didn’t even bother with most of the guys who’ve been hired. No Daboll, no Eberflus, not even McDaniels. Also no Leftwich, no Bowles, no Mayo, no DeMeco … no, they were in on Hines Ward and making McCown a finalist as part of their plan. There were plenty to interview and they didn’t bring in any of them.

Now it’s also possible that they were turned down, so there might be that.
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The Texans were linked Daboll and Eberflus last year and they know McDaniels, so one or the other didn't want any part of the Texans process again. Leftwich, Bowles, Mayo, Ryans of course I don't have a real clue as to why they didn't interview, but it is interesting they are all minority candidates and the Texan were bleeping around with Hines Ward to satisfy the Rooney rule.

More broadly we know almost nothing about any of these dudes as candidates for head coaching outside of :

1) Their side of the ball performed well.
2) We are told by some source about their leadership, communication, etc,

Speaking of names what has happened to Eric Bieniemy?
 
Maybe Caserio is holding off until all the respectable HC candidates are off the market. He will then name himself HC to fulfill his quest to copy Belichick….he then hires McCown as his new OC. This allows him to copy OB by being GM, HC, and OC. McCown would be OC in title only while truly serving as Easterby’s personal Altar Boy, only there’s no altar…….
 
Speedy said:
That’s fine, but they didn’t even bother with most of the guys who’ve been hired. No Daboll, no Eberflus, not even McDaniels. Also no Leftwich, no Bowles, no Mayo, no DeMeco …
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Bowles is the only one on that list I would have considered. I also would have looked at Caldwell & Frazier.

But those three guys have been HCs before & were all fired. So it’s possible they agreed with the teams that fired them. Though I can also see them staying away from Caldwell & Frazier so as to not admit they messed up last year. As if firing Culley doesn't say the same.
 
ArlingtonTexan said:
The Texans were linked Daboll and Eberflus last year and they know McDaniels, so one or the other didn't want any part of the Texans process again. Leftwich, Bowles, Mayo, Ryans of course I don't have a real clue as to why they didn't interview, but it is interesting they are all minority candidates and the Texan were bleeping around with Hines Ward to satisfy the Rooney rule.

More broadly we know almost nothing about any of these dudes as candidates for head coaching outside of :

1) Their side of the ball performed well.
2) We are told by some source about their leadership, communication, etc,

Speaking of names what has happened to Eric Bieniemy?
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Media found a new darling or at least realized they were not going to get him hired. Bieniemy, before this year, had been interviewed by every team looking for a HC for the last 3 years and all of them have said pass. Its why I don't listen to the media when they talk about this coach or that coach's qualifications because its clear they have no more or better idea than any of us they just have a more public platform.
 
I wonder if the Texans ownership now regrets firing Culley, they certainly should, because after the incredibly inept performance by the lily-white Urban Meyer in Jacksonville vs. Culleys comparatively stellar rookie year in Houston the Texans would now be a shining example for the whole league for hiring minorities had Culley been extended for atleast another year especially in the wake of the Flores law suit.
 
leebigeztx said:
Ok, gotcha. I don't think there would be an uproar if it was Gannon. Sure Flores has more experience even before he became the DC. O mean if the Texans are in rebuild mode, look at what he did in Miami while in rebuild mode. It makes too much sense which means Texans probably doesn't do it.
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From what I have been informed, Flores had a long and impressive meeting with the Texans. He actually thanked them for giving him the opportunity for a very comprehensive, legitimate and fair interview. He informed them of the lawsuit on Monday. But that aside, the Texans could not accept his terms. He wanted total control over the roster. He wanted to bring in aggressive, "bully-type" assistants in the style of his own "leadership." Both parties left amicably.
 
ArlingtonTexan said:
The Texans were linked Daboll and Eberflus last year and they know McDaniels, so one or the other didn't want any part of the Texans process again. Leftwich, Bowles, Mayo, Ryans of course I don't have a real clue as to why they didn't interview, but it is interesting they are all minority candidates and the Texan were bleeping around with Hines Ward to satisfy the Rooney rule.

More broadly we know almost nothing about any of these dudes as candidates for head coaching outside of :

1) Their side of the ball performed well.
2) We are told by some source about their leadership, communication, etc,

Speaking of names what has happened to Eric Bieniemy?
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I guess the point I’m trying to make is that there’s better out there than McCown and Ward and they only looked at 3 others besides them with any legitimacy. Not a very thorough search that I can tell.
 
And again this team continues to show us how inept and lost they truly are. Was basically the first to start the darn interview process and looks to be the last to higher their HC. What’s the freaking hold up? I mean seriously why are they taking so long.
 
Speedy said:
I guess the point I’m trying to make is that there’s better out there than McCown and Ward and they only looked at 3 others besides them with any legitimacy. Not a very thorough search that I can tell.
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I see that especially when the GM said something about diligent or some similar word when talking about this years search.
 
Texansballer74 said:
And again this team continues to show us how inept and lost they truly are. Was basically the first to start the darn interview process and looks to be the last to higher their HC. What’s the freaking hold up? I mean seriously why are they taking so long.
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That was last year. The only team later starting than the Texans are the Saints this year.
 
Speedy said:
I guess the point I’m trying to make is that there’s better out there than McCown and Ward and they only looked at 3 others besides them with any legitimacy. Not a very thorough search that I can tell.
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What if they killed two birds with one stone when they brought them in? I seriously doubt either one was considered for the HC position, but by interviewing Hines, you check the Rooney Rule box, but also find out if he would make a good WR's coach, or an assistant.
 
OptimisticTexan said:
Maybe Caserio is holding off until all the respectable HC candidates are off the market. He will then name himself HC to fulfill his quest to copy Belichick….he then hires McCown as his new OC. This allows him to copy OB by being GM, HC, and OC. McCown would be OC in title only while truly serving as Easterby’s personal Altar Boy, only there’s no altar…….
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I know this was meant to be satirical, but I think your actually pretty close to the truth. Caserio has already shown he wants to be involved in all phases of the organization - including X/O's. I believe that's why he chooses to interview HC candidates he believes he can manipulate to his will and that will tolerate his meddling.
 
Toro Bravo said:
I know this was meant to be satirical, but I think your actually pretty close to the truth. Caserio has already shown he wants to be involved in all phases of the organization - including X/O's. I believe that's why he chooses to interview HC candidates he believes he can manipulate to his will and that will tolerate his meddling.
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I don't really think it's about being manipulative.

Caserio has a unique background as a player & a coach. He's been involved with game management as well as scouting. He's not just a GM. He believes he has valuable insights into the game. Just like he & Romeo were saying they should let the Patriots score, they didn't force Culley's hand.

Again, I don't believe the point is to manipulate, but provide valuable insight.
 
Toro Bravo said:
Vikings have already announced they intend to hire Kevin O'connell. I didn't think they could until after the SB, but I'm not sure of anything in the NFL anymore.
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I think any contract can't be officially signed until after the SB, but the team and candidate can reach a verbal agreement
 
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Texansballer74 said:
And again this team continues to show us how inept and lost they truly are. Was basically the first to start the darn interview process and looks to be the last to higher their HC. What’s the freaking hold up? I mean seriously why are they taking so long.
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what is everyone’s rush to hire someone? I seriously don’t understand what is the big deal in hiring someone quickly. The current year isnt even over yet, there are 4 other teams that still haven’t hired anyone yet…like why is it such a sign of ineptness that they haven’t hire someone yet?

Jags were among the first to hire Urban Meyer last year…that dude didn’t even last a full year. Lions hired their guy before us, didn’t help them much in the win column. Same for the Jets….you guys need to calm down.
 
Mr teX said:
what is everyone’s rush to hire someone? I seriously don’t understand what is the big deal in hiring someone quickly. The current year isnt even over yet, there are 4 other teams that still haven’t hired anyone yet…like why is it such a sign of ineptness that they haven’t hire someone yet?

Jags were among the first to hire Urban Meyer last year…that dude didn’t even last a full year. Lions hired their guy before us, didn’t help them much in the win column. Same for the Jets….you guys need to calm down.
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Nobody said anything about rushing. It’s been what 3 weeks. You have teams who have hired their new HC. Are you saying those teams rushed?


And we took all day to hire Culley, how did that crap turn out.
 
Texansballer74 said:
Nobody said anything about rushing. It’s been what 3 weeks. You have teams who have hired their new HC. Are you saying those teams rushed?


And we took all day to hire Culley, how did that crap turn out.
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thats kinda the point…how long it takes to hire the guy doesn’t at all factor in to the individual’s success. So whether it happens faster or slower is irrelevant; could give a crap what other teams are doing.

But….as CND has subtly pointed out with the Flores interview, there are terms that have to be agreed to by both parties & the Texans didn’t agree with Flores’. It’s more to it than just agreeing to be the HC; I’m sure that part was easy.

Whose gonna have control over the roster? How much input do I have with the draft? What if any or who can I bring in for my staff? I’ve heard a lot about this Easterby dude…what’s gonna be his level of involvement with my team/players?

this isn’t even talking about the contract
 
Texansballer74 said:
And again this team continues to show us how inept and lost they truly are. Was basically the first to start the darn interview process and looks to be the last to higher their HC. What’s the freaking hold up? I mean seriously why are they taking so long.
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A lot of potential HCs probably turned down offers to interview - certainly understandable if more successful franchises are on the lookout.i.e. - they might be waiting to see if they can get one of those first, then express their interest when opportunities are running out.
 
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Mr teX said:
what is everyone’s rush to hire someone? I seriously don’t understand what is the big deal in hiring someone quickly. The current year isnt even over yet, there are 4 other teams that still haven’t hired anyone yet…like why is it such a sign of ineptness that they haven’t hire someone yet?

Jags were among the first to hire Urban Meyer last year…that dude didn’t even last a full year. Lions hired their guy before us, didn’t help them much in the win column. Same for the Jets….you guys need to calm down.
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I don't want to rush, and get the wrong guy, but I also don't want to wait, and miss out on the right guy. On top of that, the Shine Bowl and the Senior Bowl are in process now, and it would be nice to have our new position coaches and coordinators out there watching the practices and games.
 
vtech9 said:
I don't want to rush, and get the wrong guy, but I also don't want to wait, and miss out on the right guy. On top of that, the Shine Bowl and the Senior Bowl are in process now, and it would be nice to have our new position coaches and coordinators out there watching the practices and games.
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whose to say that they aren’t or we don’t have someone out there representing the Texans?

noone Knows they have the right guy until they do….& you can really only know that when the real bullets start to fly.
 
OptimisticTexan said:
Hail….why not let fans submit their resumes as well?
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Mr teX said:
whose to say that they aren’t or we don’t have someone out there representing the Texans?
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The Texans have had scouts at the Shrine Bowl and Senior Bowl practices.
 
Mr teX said:
whose to say that they aren’t or we don’t have someone out there representing the Texans?

noone Knows they have the right guy until they do….& you can really only know that when the real bullets start to fly.
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Oh, I know they have scouts out there. They always do. I would also like our new HC, position coaches, and coordinators to be there to interview the kids they might potentially draft.
 
vtech9 said:
I don't want to rush, and get the wrong guy, but I also don't want to wait, and miss out on the right guy. On top of that, the Shine Bowl and the Senior Bowl are in process now, and it would be nice to have our new position coaches and coordinators out there watching the practices and games.
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Anybody that is seeking a coaching job in the NFL should be following things like the Senior bowl regardless of if they have been hired yet or not because thats just staying up-to-date with your profession. If a candidate is waiting to be hired before researching who the next generation of athletes are then I don't want them.
 
maverick512000 said:
Anybody that is seeking a coaching job in the NFL should be following things like the Senior bowl regardless of if they have been hired yet or not because thats just staying up-to-date with your profession. If a candidate is waiting to be hired before researching who the next generation of athletes are then I don't want them.
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True, but after they sign with a team, they will know what players and positions to focus on for that team.
 
Sports610 must have gotten word about Gannon to the Texans because they’re bashing the Texans extra hard this morning. They keep going on about how stupid and weird the Texans are going to look after interviewing McCown three times and not hiring him. They also keep repeating the possibility of McCown getting a HC gig somewhere else and how it’ll haunt Cal and Caserio forever if he turns out to be a good head coach. They’re discrediting and writing Jonathan Gannon right now as we speak. It is getting more ridiculous with every passing minute, smh!

They just went as saying they’d compromise with the Texans hiring Gannon as long as McCown is the guy. Oh lord….
 
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I don’t know why anyone would think waiting until after the season tickets renewal date matters. I mean, folks assume they are hiring a relatively unknown DC or a guy with no HC experience so it won’t matter. And if they were goi g to hire Flores they’d surely be smart enough to see the marketing value and do it before.
 
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