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steelbtexan said:
Corral played really well today on 1 leg. Delivered the ball accurately despite playing obviously injured. Guy's a real tough guy. I'm starting to come around on Corral being a franchise QB and somebody trading up to 1-1 or 1-2 to get Corral.
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You're not worried about Corral turning out like other Kiffin coached qb's?
 
steelbtexan said:
Corral played really well today on 1 leg. Delivered the ball accurately despite playing obviously injured. Guy's a real tough guy. I'm starting to come around on Corral being a franchise QB and somebody trading up to 1-1 or 1-2 to get Corral.
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He looks like he has the intangible qualities of a franchise QB. I bet he’ll do well during offseason during interviews/workouts and cement his place as QB1 for this year’s draft.

The question is, will being QB1 this year be enough to be taken #1 overall with such a strong talent pool on defense?
 
I’m still leaning towards Kenny Pickett being the top QB in the 2022 class. Another solid performance in a win after a tough team loss last week.

Not that this matters but has anyone else been following Clayton Tune’s big turnaround after a horrible Week 1 game? He’s really been quite impressive in leading the Cougars this season which should cumulate in a Conference Championship game against Cincinnati. Personally, I’d like to see the Cougars take the Beakcats out of CFB Championship run versus the big school biased voters.
 
JB said:
You're not worried about Corral turning out like other Kiffin coached qb's?
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Not really, but I dont want the Texans to draft him because I want Caserio to build the roster back and then do what it takes to get his QB, if Mills isn't the guy.
 
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TexansFan15 said:
What do y’all think about using one of our late rounders on Marcus Jones out of Houston?
He’s an electric returner that has already stacked 5 TDs on kickoff/punt returns this year.
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I woud use the 6th's to trade up into the top of the 5th to draft Jones. He's got the juice. I also think even though he's short, he can grow into a slot CB. He's got rare athletic ability.
 
Washington schemed Thibodeaux out of game with 3 tackles. I'm not as into him as I was.

Giants and Philly may not be into DW but could be interested in our round one for a QB if one starts to play like a franchise QB. Not seeing that so far.
 
Storm Duck a guy I brought to the board is playing himself right out of the draft. He needs to return to school for his senior year if he has any hope or desire to play in the NFL.

Kenny Pickett looking good but against N C tonight isn't a lot to brag about.
 
badboy said:
Storm Duck a guy I brought to the board is playing himself right out of the draft. He needs to return to school for his senior year if he has any hope or desire to play in the NFL.

Kenny Pickett looking good but against N C tonight isn't a lot to brag about.
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I like the duo CBs out of Iowa: Hankins and Moss. I wouldn’t mind adding either one of them with one of our later picks.
 
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I am so impressed with Charles Cross left tackle of Mississippi State. He just rarely seems to be beaten as he mirrors the opponent moves. I don't recall any left tackle of his size recently with such quick lateral movement in feet. I tell you that makes me even more want to trade tunsil or draft Cross and see if he can play right tackle. We need players everywhere but I would love to see the offensive line improved. My goal now is to find a way to do that in round two or three.
 
TexansFan15 said:
What’re your thoughts on Hassan Haskin out of Michigan? He’s a big 6-1 bell cow. I think he’d be available in the later rounds.
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TBH I have not done much on players that I think will go after round 3. Your guy had some PR early-season but I've not seen him discussed much anywhere recently. He definitely has the size but I don't see him as an all-around back who can catch the ball. Before today's game I don't think he had more than a few receptions.
Just my two cents but I think running backs like Hassan will be available as undrafted free agents.
 
badboy said:
TBH I have not done much on players that I think will go after round 3. Your guy had some PR early-season but I've not seen him discussed much anywhere recently. He definitely has the size but I don't see him as an all-around back who can catch the ball. Before today's game I don't think he had more than a few receptions.
Just my two cents but I think running backs like Hassan will be available as undrafted free agents.
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That’s a fair assessment. I think a few RBs could be had in the later rounds or UDFA that are options. Honestly we have so many needs that we could go any direction with every pick of the draft.
 
TexansFan15 said:
I’m liking Hutchinson more and more as our 1st pick more and more. He had 3 sack, 1 TFL, and a FF today. He’s be a great building block for our defense.
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Check out the post I made in Badboys “College Football and NFL Draft” 2022 Draft and Trades. If the trades were to happen….I think we could all come up with a pretty exciting RD1. Look forward to your feedback.
 
Man Utah trying to upset Oregon first Q and Safety Verone Mckinley made a beautiful play to sack the Ducks QB with huge loss. I am focusing on him and Utah LB Devin Lloyd as well as Oregon's you know who.

Side note Mich State RB Kenneth Walker 24 yards rushing today but nothing else worked vs Ohio State today 56-7
 
OptimisticTexan said:
….and says hello, Washington Football Team.
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Almost everyone I review says Corral and Pickett look "good" in average at best QB draft; not too many have Corral in top 10 so you could be right with WFT. I'm not saying Corral will not be a good NFL QB but can we afford to select him at #2? Now if we do some trading and as I posted in my draft thread, might look at a QB later in top 14 or so. I was actually considering Pickett over Corral but Pickett didn't look good today versus Virginia 4 TDs but two INTs and the dude just cannot run.
 
Utah kicking Oregon buttocks going into 4th 35-7! LB Devin Lloyd is a night mare and has locked himself into my mock. Hard to keep my mock from being defense only. Kayvon Thibodeaux has a motor but just seems to be 'handled'. Just now 8:43 mark he rushes from QB blindside and a offense blocker blocked him at his feet completely taking him out. T sprun g up but was no help.

McCreary looking good for Auburn.
 
JB said:
Sure hope he goes ahead of Texans pick
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Seem pretty solid as Lions need QB but dead $ for Goff is high + his base for a new team averages $30 million next three seasons so he isn't going anywhere. IF Hamilton had not been hurt he would be a possibility as he is just really good. Stingley another possibility as he keep hanging around near top of draft but he did little this year in 3 games and not much more in 7 games in 2020. He is living off his rookie year 6 INTs and 15 passes defended but that was long ago. Stingley may still be good and develop to great but I wouldn't risk it for Houston or if I was picking for Detroit. I am more concerned Detroit will see what I do and select Hutchinson. I think analyst are going with Thibodeaux due to his effort/motor and athletics. His stats IMO are misleading.
 
badboy said:
Seem pretty solid as Lions need QB but dead $ for Goff is high + his base for a new team averages $30 million next three seasons so he isn't going anywhere. IF Hamilton had not been hurt he would be a possibility as he is just really good. Stingley another possibility as he keep hanging around near top of draft but he did little this year in 3 games and not much more in 7 games in 2020. He is living off his rookie year 6 INTs and 15 passes defended but that was long ago. Stingley may still be good and develop to great but I wouldn't risk it for Houston or if I was picking for Detroit. I am more concerned Detroit will see what I do and select Hutchinson. I think analyst are going with Thibodeaux due to his effort/motor and athletics. His stats IMO are misleading.
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Same hype that the Texans arse in the ringer with Clowney. I might be more apt to pick DE, Karlaftis (Purdue) before Thibodeaux if Hutchinson goes first.
 
steelbtexan said:
Only if they are willing to pay the price to trade up with Caserio.

Pick #5, pick #37 and a 2023 1st.

With the 5th pick in the 2022 draft, the Houston Texans select Derrick Stingley CB LSU.
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This is not the draft for “Franchise QB’s” but defensive talent is where this draft will be.

1. Lions / Goff…..Defense
2. Texans /
3. Jets / Wilson……Defense
4. Jags / Lawrence…….LT or Defense
5. Eagles / Hurts, Watson, or Corral or Pickett or Strong….or LT- Neal
6. Giants / Jones…..Defense, LT, or Offense
7. Jets……
8. Giants……
9. WFT / Corral, Pickett, or Strong
 
1 Detroit Thibodeaux
2 Jets Stingley
3 JAGS WR Grant Wilson
4 HOUSTON Hutchinson
5 Seattle DE Karlaftis
6 NYG OT Neal
7 NYG OG Kenyon Green
8 Eagles Hamilton
9 Falcons DE Leal
10 WFT Corral
11 Eagles Andrew Booth
12 Panthers Nakobe Dean
13 Broncos Pickett
14. Miami OG Ikem Ekwonu

Trade DW to Denver

1.13 + CB Surtain+WR Jeudy+ RB Javonte Williams + 2023 round one

Note IMO Eagles go 10-7
Miami wins more pushing other Eagles round one down. Ross keeps Tua.


Colts at least make wild card playoffs. Guarantee Round 1 to Eagles but low due to Wentz.

Denver becomes new attraction for DW and Caserio.
 
I’d look long and hard at the Giants. I see them at a crossroads with QB, Daniel Jones being that 2023 will be Jones’ 5th year option and 2024 his FA season.

Overall, Jones just hasn’t produced through his first 3 seasons. He’s looked a little better this season but has it been enough For the Giants to give Jones a big contract to lock him up long term?

The Giants could be in a prime position to draft one of the slightly overrated CFB QB’s early in RD1….but that could easily put them into situation where they hit rewind on the Jones years only to relive them for another 3-5 years.

If Watson is good to go before the draft, the Giants could ask themselves if there’s ever going to be in a better opportunity to get a true “Franchise QB1” like Watson with a package of (3) RD1, (1) RD2, and (2) RD3 again. They have the draft capital (5 picks RD1-RD3 and 5 more picks RD4-RD7) this season to make it happen…..give up 2022 (2) RD1 and 2022 (1) RD3 / 2023 (1) RD1, (1) RD2, and (1) RD3.

I think Watson could come around to the idea of suiting up for the Giants mostly b/c of the market that comes with the signing.
 
OptimisticTexan said:
I’d look long and hard at the Giants. I see them at a crossroads with QB, Daniel Jones being that 2023 will be Jones’ 5th year option and 2024 his FA season.

Overall, Jones just hasn’t produced through his first 3 seasons. He’s looked a little better this season but has it been enough For the Giants to give Jones a big contract to lock him up long term?

The Giants could be in a prime position to draft one of the slightly overrated CFB QB’s early in RD1….but that could easily put them into situation where they hit rewind on the Jones years only to relive them for another 3-5 years.

If Watson is good to go before the draft, the Giants could ask themselves if there’s ever going to be in a better opportunity to get a true “Franchise QB1” like Watson with a package of (3) RD1, (1) RD2, and (2) RD3 again. They have the draft capital (5 picks RD1-RD3 and 5 more picks RD4-RD7) this season to make it happen…..give up 2022 (2) RD1 and 2022 (1) RD3 / 2023 (1) RD1, (1) RD2, and (1) RD3.

I think Watson could come around to the idea of suiting up for the Giants mostly b/c of the market that comes with the signing.
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You know my feeling about NYG and their 2 picks. Cap space for 2022 only $4 and DW's hit of his base $35 is going to be an issue for most teams. Trading Saquan and Daniel Jones saves $11 but then what? Of course as I've mentioned bonusing some of Watson's salary could work.
 
Trade- all of the Broncos best players and a 1st.

Sign me up.

Not gonna happen

Eagles go 10-7 dont the Eagles have 6 losses already?

I know they play the NYG/NYJ 3 times, but they only lose 1 more game? Unlikely
 
steelbtexan said:
Trade- all of the Broncos best players and a 1st.

Sign me up.

Not gonna happen

Eagles go 10-7 dont the Eagles have 6 losses already?

I know they play the NYG/NYJ 3 times, but they only lose 1 more game? Unlikely
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What, you're expecting realism here? Seriously?
 
I think it's going to depend on how bad Pat Bowlen wants to change the direction of his team for the next eight to 10 years. I think if he wants to win in 2022 he needs a franchise quarterback. Owners will realize that they're going to have to dig deep and pay and not just cash.

Cooks would be another 1100 yards with DW. Yeah Jeudy is better but as REM sang Everybody Hurts.

My mock drafts are ridiculed every year and yet with just the most recent one we saw a bad boy type trade situation Breakout involving Eagles, Dolphins and San Fran.

" teams just don't make trades like that! Who do you think you are Sonny Weaver?"

More than once we have seen defensive backs traded for two round 1 picks.

This trade proposal may be unlikely but if you don't like move on..
 
badboy said:
I think it's going to depend on how bad Pat Bowlen wants to change the direction of his team for the next eight to 10 years. I think if he wants to win in 2022 he needs a franchise quarterback. Owners will realize that they're going to have to dig deep and pay and not just cash.

Cooks would be another 1100 yards with DW. Yeah Jeudy is better but as REM sang Everybody Hurts.

My mock drafts are ridiculed every year and yet with just the most recent one we saw a bad boy type trade situation Breakout involving Eagles, Dolphins and San Fran.

" teams just don't make trades like that! Who do you think you are Sonny Weaver?"

More than once we have seen defensive backs traded for two round 1 picks.

This trade proposal may be unlikely but if you don't like move on..
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You do realize Pat Bowlen died a few yrs ago and his children are fighting it out for control of the team? Brittnay Bolwen seems to be the favorite to take control of the Broncos.
 
badboy said:
You know my feeling about NYG and their 2 picks. Cap space for 2022 only $4 and DW's hit of his base $35 is going to be an issue for most teams. Trading Saquan and Daniel Jones saves $11 but then what? Of course as I've mentioned bonusing some of Watson's salary could work.
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NYG have the means to make a Watson deal happen. They have players that could be traded or released and could offer to extend Watson’s contract with another lump sum upon agreement.

As for the players…..the Giants could move on from Barkley who’s no longer the player he was in 2018 and 2019. I don’t see a rebound there. Nate Solder has never reached expectations when he was signed away from the Patriots. Of course Daniels hasn’t delivered the goods either. There are other moves to be made, but to say Watson’s numbers couldn’t be worked out isn’t completely right. Also, I think the Giants need Watson and absolutely have the assets to get a deal done. Plus, if it came down to the Giants, Eagles or Broncos….I think Watson would more than likely accept a deal from the Giants.
 
OptimisticTexan said:
NYG have the means to make a Watson deal happen. They have players that could be traded or released and could offer to extend Watson’s contract with another lump sum upon agreement.

As for the players…..the Giants could move on from Barkley who’s no longer the player he was in 2018 and 2019. I don’t see a rebound there. Nate Solder has never reached expectations when he was signed away from the Patriots. Of course Daniels hasn’t delivered the goods either. There are other moves to be made, but to say Watson’s numbers couldn’t be worked out isn’t completely right. Also, I think the Giants need Watson and absolutely have the assets to get a deal done. Plus, if it came down to the Giants, Eagles or Broncos….I think Watson would more than likely accept a deal from the Giants.
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I wouldn't leave out the Saints here.
Watson would be deadly over there.
 
Texansphan said:
I wouldn't leave out the Saints here.
Watson would be deadly over there.
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Yeah, I read last week that the Saints could become players for a Watson trade. The only problem I see:

2022 Draft Picks
(1) RD1
(1) RD2
(1) RD3 COMP
(2) RD4 / RD4 COMP
(1) RD5
(1) RD6 COMP
(1) RD7

These will probably be mid round picks in 2022…..with Watson, the 2023 picks could easily slip to the back of the draft as well as the 2024 picks which would only be expected in a deal.

To make a deal with the Saints…..I might push for:

2022
RD1, RD2, and (2) RD3

2023
RD1 and RD3

2024
RD1 and RD3

This request would simply be based on the potential finish of the Saints with Watson.
 
OptimisticTexan said:
NYG have the means to make a Watson deal happen. They have players that could be traded or released and could offer to extend Watson’s contract with another lump sum upon agreement.

As for the players…..the Giants could move on from Barkley who’s no longer the player he was in 2018 and 2019. I don’t see a rebound there. Nate Solder has never reached expectations when he was signed away from the Patriots. Of course Daniels hasn’t delivered the goods either. There are other moves to be made, but to say Watson’s numbers couldn’t be worked out isn’t completely right. Also, I think the Giants need Watson and absolutely have the assets to get a deal done. Plus, if it came down to the Giants, Eagles or Broncos….I think Watson would more than likely accept a deal from the Giants.
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The NYG are more likely to trade for Russ than Derrick.

I could also see Rodgers going to the Broncos

Derrick would be a good match for the Saints and if Payton cant get Derrick to change his selfish ways nobody will be able to change him.
 
OptimisticTexan said:
Yeah, I read last week that the Saints could become players for a Watson trade. The only problem I see:

2022 Draft Picks
(1) RD1
(1) RD2
(1) RD3 COMP
(2) RD4 / RD4 COMP
(1) RD5
(1) RD6 COMP
(1) RD7

These will probably be mid round picks in 2022…..with Watson, the 2023 picks could easily slip to the back of the draft as well as the 2024 picks which would only be expected in a deal.

To make a deal with the Saints…..I might push for:

2022
RD1, RD2, and (2) RD3

2023
RD1 and RD3

2024
RD1 and RD3

This request would simply be based on the potential finish of the Saints with Watson.
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I'm thinking that most teams without a franchise QB will be interested in Watson.
Most of those will have to come up with a player package to go with the draft picks.
We may have to get used to the idea of only one extra first rounder and not two in this draft.
 
Texansphan said:
I'm thinking that most teams without a franchise QB will be interested in Watson.
Most of those will have to come up with a player package to go with the draft picks.
We may have to get used to the idea of only one extra first rounder and not two in this draft.
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I'm going to keep on hoping for ribeye and settle for tuna fish if it happens.
 
Texansphan said:
I'm thinking that most teams without a franchise QB will be interested in Watson.
Most of those will have to come up with a player package to go with the draft picks.
We may have to get used to the idea of only one extra first rounder and not two in this draft.
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Yep

Add in the fact that Rodgers and possibly Wilson will be on the market and a couple of QB's will most likely be taken in the 1st rd and the market for Derrick may not be what some posters hope it might be.
 
Texansphan said:
I'm thinking that most teams without a franchise QB will be interested in Watson.
Most of those will have to come up with a player package to go with the draft picks.
We may have to get used to the idea of only one extra first rounder and not two in this draft.
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…..yeah, it’ll really come down to Watson’s legal situation. If he clears it up before the draft, then there could be more than a few teams seeking his services. If he’s able to get through his deposition with no major hurdles and then settle with the 22 women before the draft that could his trade stock immensely. If none of this happens, then he’s remains the Texans burden……and man will that 35M leave a mark.
 
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