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Sexual Assault Suits Against Watson

Speedy said:
Can this thread get moved to the No Spin Zone already?
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I look forward to the day that the Texans trade Watson and this thread is immediately moved to the NFL section.

Earl34 said:
Personally, I've long suspected this was a puppet account. Sometimes, one account will even reply for the other.
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As admin, I can see a lot, and there is absolutely nothing there to indicate that these accounts are related.

And there is no proxy or VPN involved because the IP addys are consistent.

steelbtexan said:
Totally agree.

Not that it matters but I actually started this thread but a mod moved your post to the top and listed you as starting the thread, rightfully so since you provided a link. This is why the 1st few posts in the thread say things like, look who started this thread and why the thread appears to be disjointed. Because when this thread started you were one of the biggest fans of the guy, so others posts at that time makes no sense.

I'm just glad that unlike some you didn't let your fandom overtake your morals of what's right and wrong, just because you want to get more in trade for this POS. I've gained more respect for you in this thread than you can ever imagine and my apology to you was truly heartfelt. I was wrong.
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Looking at the times/dates, it appears that threads were merged and the system decides who goes on top based on time stamps. Human control is not involved.
 
Also looked it up. It’s an old article but said back in 2013 Rusty was charging $1100.00 an hour. Can’t imagine what he is charging now
 
Corrosion said:
Same thing I've been telling you guys for several months ....


This is why no trade has happened or will occur until he's cleared or not.
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I remember someone saying that it’s possible for the Texans to void his current contract because of conduct and then Watson be back on his rookie contract or something to that effect.

Do you know if that is still in play?

Does anyone?
 
If The Adventures of Fat Albert and the Cosby Kids 1984 Intro Opening - Bing video , 1983 Jell-O Pudding Pops Commercial with Bill Cosby - Bing video and The Cosby Show Season 1 Opening - Bing video which made Bill Cosby very popular and he still can end up spending time in jail, than it's not hard to believe that DW4 can spend time in jail as well.

If Bill Cosby's carefully crafted wholesum image can be destroyed due to sexual assault charges, then I have decided that DW4 going down criminally is not all that hard to believe.

I grew up a fan of Bill Cosby and I never could have imagined how far he would fall. In no way does the nice guy image crafted by DW4 come anywhere close to the popularity and image Bill Cosby made for himself.
 
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TexansBull said:
So let’s say 150 different ladies were giving him a massage. 30 have filed lawsuits or charges. That’s 20%.

Maybe that 20% were legit massage workers and not Instagram girls posing as massage workers.

Who gets 3 massages a week for an entire year? Isn’t there an off-season?

The guy probably spent close to 30k ($200*150) in that 12 month period for those services. And he couldn’t pay 40k to settle?

Special kind of stupid.
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Thanks for breaking it down.

Breaking the numbers down really shows how dumb this guy really is. Smdh
 
Texansballer74 said:
That post means a freaking lot. Just like the rest of his cryptic messages. Thus the darn reason he doesn’t want to be here. Isn’t that what his cryptic messages meant when he posted months ago.

This is a thread that hmmm I created correct? This is a country in which we’re able to speak our minds correct? The comment was within the right to this great forum correct?

He knows something big is about to happen. That statement can go several ways. It was cryptic, so why are you getting bent out of shape about my comment?

And you stir the pot around these parts all of the times. Especially with all of your trade proposals. Yet you’re taking a dump on my comment.

Man this world is ultra sensitive these days.
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I apologize for hurting your feelings as not my intent. I get that you are sensitive but that's okay.. Of course you can post whatever you choose in any thread including your "own". I rarely look at the author of a thread before I post in it.

My point that you either did not get or just chose to ignore was the author of the article made comments and then said that his own comments probably would not happen. Again there is nothing wrong with that it's just saying nothing and then trying to interpret that it is something. You state that Watson's comment meant a freaking lot as did his earlier comments. Even today there is disagreement about what those meant. You of course chose not to say what they meant other than something big is coming because you don't know you just have an interpretation.

I repeatedly have said that I have problems with people who make declarations as if fact as you did when you have no way of knowing something big is soon to happen. That is kind of vague sort of like Nostradamus predictions.

Interesting you compare stirring the pot by me making trade proposals that probably will not happen and you by posting or sharing others that probably will not happen in a thread about a man accused of sexual assault, oral rape and trafficking of several women. Sort of a weird comparison.
 
badboy said:
I apologize for hurting your feelings as not my intent. I get that you are sensitive but that's okay.. Of course you can post whatever you choose in any thread including your "own". I rarely look at the author of a thread before I post in it.

My point that you either did not get or just chose to ignore was the author of the article made comments and then said that his own comments probably would not happen. Again there is nothing wrong with that it's just saying nothing and then trying to interpret that it is something. You state that Watson's comment meant a freaking lot as did his earlier comments. Even today there is disagreement about what those meant. You of course chose not to say what they meant other than something big is coming because you don't know you just have an interpretation.

I repeatedly have said that I have problems with people who make declarations as if fact as you did when you have no way of knowing something big is soon to happen. That is kind of vague sort of like Nostradamus predictions.

Interesting you compare stirring the pot by me making trade proposals that probably will not happen and you by posting or sharing others that probably will not happen in a thread about a man accused of sexual assault, oral rape and trafficking of several women. Sort of a weird comparison.
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You didn’t hurt my feelings, not one bit. But your feelings seemed to be hurt by the poop 💩 emoji to you put in there.

I know what the writer said. But like I stated Watson cryptic messages always means something. That’s why he posted it. That’s why he caught feelings one day at camp. Going off on fans and the media for videoing him every day. Dude is being a complete jerk out there. He knows something is about to happen and is clearly frustrated.
 
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steelbtexan said:
The FBI and HPD think that where there's smoke there's fire. Otherwise the FBI wouldn't be investigating and this wouldn't be going before a grand jury in Harris County.

I'm really looking forward to this going to trial. It should be very entertaining.
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I would be just as correct as you by saying the FBI and HPD think that where there's smoke there MAY be fire as they must investigate. If there was substantial evidence known it would have been submitted to a grand jury by now. I am not saying there isn't any just has not been discovered yet.
 
Texansballer74 said:
You didn’t hurt my feelings, not one bit. But your feelings seemed to be hurt by the poop 💩 emoji to put in there.

I know what the writer said. But like I stated Watson cryptic messages always means something. That’s why he posted it. That’s why he caught feelings one day at camp. Going off on fans and the media for videoing him every day. Dude is being a complete jerk out there. He knows something is about to happen and is clearly frustrated.
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Now you're going in circles, of course DW messages mean something but you said you knew what this one meant and you do not. My feelings not involved when I call you or someone else out on making a statement as fact. If you had said a source led you to believe something big was happening ..that's not poop. The article you quoted took nothing, tried to make it say something then said it was nothing. You saw fit to post that and I questioned why you did that. I agree he is frustrated and about more than just fans photographing him. Jilly could have dumped him. Momma Watson could have busted his britches. Hardin could have sent him a bill. You repeated that DW knows something and again you have no clue that's true. I think that is called conjecture and yes I realize we are not in court.
 
Double Barrel said:
I look forward to the day that the Texans trade Watson and this thread is immediately moved to the NFL section.



As admin, I can see a lot, and there is absolutely nothing there to indicate that these accounts are related.

And there is no proxy or VPN involved because the IP addys are consistent.



Looking at the times/dates, it appears that threads were merged and the system decides who goes on top based on time stamps. Human control is not involved.
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well shucks! There goes a conspiracy theory..
 
djohn2oo8 said:
Also looked it up. It’s an old article but said back in 2013 Rusty was charging $1100.00 an hour. Can’t imagine what he is charging now
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Which side usually gets paid more and by how much? Info I have leads me to think defense attorneys make 10 x more +?
 
TexansBull said:
I remember someone saying that it’s possible for the Texans to void his current contract because of conduct and then Watson be back on his rookie contract or something to that effect.

Do you know if that is still in play?

Does anyone?
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Long day and my brain numb but IIRC this season could involve fines by Texans or game{s} suspension by NFL. In addition, if (he didn't) he held out the 2021 season could be voided and DW would lose not only his base but a season of accrual for pension and Free Agency. I personally think his known behavior is enough as I read NFL agreement for the team to void his contract entirely PLUS go after some of his signing bonus of millions. This has not been done as far as I can tell as Texans hope to at some point get something for him in a trade. That is why I continue to post trade package scenarios.
 
TexansBull said:
I remember someone saying that it’s possible for the Texans to void his current contract because of conduct and then Watson be back on his rookie contract or something to that effect.

Do you know if that is still in play?

Does anyone?
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I believe most of that discussion was more about the Texans NOT trading him and if he refused to play suspending him (twice) as the best outcome is him not accruing a season which keeps him on the final year of his rookie deal which pays $18m instead of $40whatever.
But that would have required two suspensions to accomplish as the player only needs to suit up for 6 games to accrue a season.

Tho the team can void the guaranteed money on his new contract for "conduct detrimental" but the base value doesn't change , the guarantee's would simply be gone & they could probably go after some of the signing bonus money. This makes him much easier to trade since much of the guarantee / signing bonus could be wiped out leaving less dead money.

EDIT: voiding those guarantee's also makes it possible to cut him.
 
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Earl34 said:
You got the wrong poster. I don't back sexual predators or perverts. You keep mistaking anyone who doesn't share your over the top glee for Watson's self-destruction as a supporter of perverts, trash and POS. I'm not interested in playing your faux moral superiority game.
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Over the top? The POS has the FBI investigating him for sex trafficking and 30 some odd women have filed civil/criminal complaints. LMAO

You could have the morals of an alley cat and be morally superior. There's no faux about this. It is what it is. You just dont like what it is and what your guys turned out to be. It's ok to admit you misjudged a persons character.
 
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Mr teX said:
1st rule when dealing with your attorney is to be completely upfront and honest about everything. So in that regard, I have to believe Hardin knows everything that happened prior to him getting involved…this is in addition to his own teams’ research and investigating work.
And if you believe this, you have to believe the fact that he is still advocating that DW4 not settle…it potentially says a lot about what Hardin thinks the evidence against his clients t is like.
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So you believe the POS is telling Hardin the truth? He should be, but it's highly unlikely he's telling Hardin everything, much less the truth.
 
KoolAid Sipper said:
But we don't know that Hardin didn't/hasn't recommended settling. We know that Hardin wasn't involved at the onset of this mess and we know that Watson is adamant that he did nothing wrong so Hardin is doing what he can based on his client's wishes. I don't know if Watson is innocent or guilty, the legal system will figure that out but in the end nothing good will come of this for all those involved.
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Something good will happen.

The Clemson trash will have been taken out.
 
djohn2oo8 said:
First, all of the complaints aren’t all from Buzbee’s group. Second, Cloak said there’s a possible 11th and 12th complaint being filed? Doesn’t matter if the rest didn’t file. It only takes 1
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I wonder what happens to any of these victims if Hardin produces a different client(s) that are willing to testify that some of these women offered services not associated with being massaged…..a happy ending type of finish? Would this also fall under the it may only take one?
 
OptimisticTexan said:
I wonder what happens to any of these victims if Hardin produces a different client(s) that are willing to testify that some of these women offered services not associated with being massaged…..a happy ending type of finish? Would this also fall under the it may only take one?
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Are you saying he was trying to pay on the internet to have someone come to him and have sex with him, because that's a federal felony, I think. So, to twist the "it only takes one" concept, if he was thinking these were prostitutes that he was engaging with, that doesn't help and it would only take one of those to put him away.

OTOH, even if a woman was a prostitute, she has the right to say no. So if one of those women told him no and he kept going, that's bad.
 
The Pencil Neck said:
Are you saying he was trying to pay on the internet to have someone come to him and have sex with him, because that's a federal felony, I think. So, to twist the "it only takes one" concept, if he was thinking these were prostitutes that he was engaging with, that doesn't help and it would only take one of those to put him away.

OTOH, even if a woman was a prostitute, she has the right to say no. So if one of those women told him no and he kept going, that's bad.
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I didn’t say Watson…..I mentioned, what if Hardin could produce another one of the women(s) male clients who would state for the record that the masseuse (any one of them) he visited asked if he would be interested in additional services or a happy ending.
 
OptimisticTexan said:
I didn’t say Watson…..I mentioned, what if Hardin could produce another one of the women(s) male clients who would state for the record that the masseuse (any one of them) he visited asked if he would be interested in additional services or a happy ending.
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I'm not sure why you think that would help his case.

If she offers it as a... let's say "add-on" service, that would still imply that Watson was engaging in prostitution as opposed to consensual sex. Right?
 
OptimisticTexan said:
I wonder what happens to any of these victims if Hardin produces a different client(s) that are willing to testify that some of these women offered services not associated with being massaged…..a happy ending type of finish? Would this also fall under the it may only take one?
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Yeah won’t matter because there are text messages after these incidents between Watson and the Accuser, that Corrosion says are damning for Watson.
 
The Pencil Neck said:
I'm not sure why you think that would help his case.

If she offers it as a... let's say "add-on" service, that would still imply that Watson was engaging in prostitution as opposed to consensual sex. Right?
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Again, not about Watson.....only better establishes the type of business some or all the women may have been running behind the guise of masseuse. But you're right in one regard, that wouldn't give Watson the right to do as he pleases even if a prostitute were to ask him to stop. What it would offer, Hardin another path in his questioning.
 
OptimisticTexan said:
Again, not about Watson.....only better establishes the type of business some or all the women may have been running behind the guise of masseuse. But you're right in one regard, that wouldn't give Watson the right to do as he pleases even if a prostitute were to ask him to stop. What it would offer, Hardin another path in his questioning.
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What I'm saying is that establishing the type of businuess they're running isn't really a masseuse business doesn't help his case, it just shifts it to another type of crime. And like you said, even if they are prostitutes, they still have a right to say no if someone makes them uncomfortable.

When it comes to taking that path of questioning, that's just another reason why women can be reticent to bring charges or file complaints. They know their reputations are going to be questioned, and they know they're going to be asked odious and vulgar questions. That becomes a form of bullying to keep them from testifying.
 
OptimisticTexan said:
I wonder what happens to any of these victims if Hardin produces a different client(s) that are willing to testify that some of these women offered services not associated with being massaged…..a happy ending type of finish? Would this also fall under the it may only take one?
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It would fall under the it would take 30 or so.
 
steelbtexan said:
So you believe the POS is telling Hardin the truth? He should be, but it's highly unlikely he's telling Hardin everything, much less the truth.
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Fairly sure that Watson told Hardin that he didn't do anything wrong. Oddly it seems like Hardin pretty much seems to respond to things Buzz and his team say. Not the other way around
 
OptimisticTexan said:
Again, not about Watson.....only better establishes the type of business some or all the women may have been running behind the guise of masseuse. But you're right in one regard, that wouldn't give Watson the right to do as he pleases even if a prostitute were to ask him to stop. What it would offer, Hardin another path in his questioning.
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The Pencil Neck said:
What I'm saying is that establishing the type of businuess they're running isn't really a masseuse business doesn't help his case, it just shifts it to another type of crime. And like you said, even if they are prostitutes, they still have a right to say no if someone makes them uncomfortable.

When it comes to taking that path of questioning, that's just another reason why women can be reticent to bring charges or file complaints. They know their reputations are going to be questioned, and they know they're going to be asked odious and vulgar questions. That becomes a form of bullying to keep them from testifying.
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You have to realize that several of these women weren't people Watson just "found" on Instagram.

They were "Recommended" by others be that Quincy Avery , "Other Players" , Jasmine Brooks and on at least three occasions managers at spa's that specialize in "Sports Therapy".

Instagram was simply used as the mode of communication.

I think it's all but an impossible task for the defense to portray those women as Instagram hookers.
 
SnakeEyes said:
Fairly sure that Watson told Hardin that he didn't do anything wrong. Oddly it seems like Hardin pretty much seems to respond to things Buzz and his team say. Not the other way around
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It's really not odd when you dont believe your client and are always in damage control because he cant tell you how many women could possibly be filing suit against him.
 
Corrosion said:
You have to realize that several of these women weren't people Watson just "found" on Instagram.

They were "Recommended" by others be that Quincy Avery , "Other Players" , Jasmine Brooks and on at least three occasions managers at spa's that specialize in "Sports Therapy".

Instagram was simply used as the mode of communication.

I think it's all but an impossible task for the defense to portray those women as Instagram hookers.
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I did not know this and I expect a majority don’t.
 
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