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Stirred clockwise or counterclockwiseWould you like oil with that sir?
1 finger or 2?
I know it’s blunt but that is the message in my madness. the Little implications get buried under the money fatuation. Playing in the NFL at those salaries is an honor not a platform for abuse or statements. If DW is the goal of every kid playing in school football programs wow. Just wow. The NFL is becoming another extension of our churches and Boy ScoutsSphincter tinker: say what ?
Cross your fingers and put them where?
LMAO
I know it’s blunt but that is the message in my madness. the Little implications get buried under the money fatuation. Playing in the NFL at those salaries is an honor not a platform for abuse or statements. If DW is the goal of every kid playing in school football programs wow. Just wow. The NFL is becoming another extension of our churches and Boy Scouts
Very odd definition. So, if I kill 100 people, but don't get 100 massages off instagram, I'm normal according to you?
Also, what's wrong with getting 100 massages off instagram?
This is what people are missing. He wasn’t strictly looking for massages. 1 or 2 masseuses would have done the trick because no one has the same technique some never even worked on pro athletes. It appears He’s into the sex trade which is why he went through Instagram. Because, you won’t see much detail about services provided, it’s about what they look like.Nothing if you're looking for sex.
How many people do you know that get 100-150 massages a yr?
How many people do you know that solicit sex on the internet 100 times a yr.? We aren't talking about a guy who doesn't have sex regularly with girls like Jilly.
Yep, your guys a perv at best. After thinking about it and looking at the numbers he's a predator. BTW, did you read the SI article? He's also a POS.
Nothing if you're looking for sex.
How many people do you know that get 100-150 massages a yr?
How many people do you know that solicit sex on the internet 100 times a yr.? We aren't talking about a guy who doesn't have sex regularly with girls like Jilly.
Yep, your guys a perv at best. After thinking about it and looking at the numbers he's a predator. BTW, did you read the SI article? He's also a POS.
I do not think that DW's were all massages. Having said that I can believe an athlete could get 2-3 per week each year. The limit would be in number of maaseurs.1. I don't have a guy
2. I don't ask people how many massages they get, but if someone wants 100 per year, that's their business
3. I just wanted to know what you think a "normal person" is
I do not think that DW's were all massages. Having said that I can believe an athlete could get 2-3 per week each year. The limit would be in number of maaseurs.
The world is your anus.
I was just adding to your post.This isn't even about DW. steelb is throwing out labels like "normal person", "perv", "sexual deviant". I just wanted to know his standards.
Sex addictions are as bad as any other addiction and it ruins a lot of lives. If DW4 has an addiction I hope he gets help for it just as any person with any other addiction gets. I think the best case scenario if he is guilty is that he admits he has a problem. I am sure that many people think he won't be able to overcome how his teammates will percieve him, but I think people would be quite surprised at how much support he will receive.No lie! Even if he did nothing wrong but solicit prostitutes on Instagram. That is still not a normal thing. Unless you have some type of underlying factor such as a sex addition or something like that
An oily problemSomebody's got a problem.
1. I don't have a guy
2. I don't ask people how many massages they get, but if someone wants 100 per year, that's their business
3. I just wanted to know what you think a "normal person" is
Normal is a median measure. Nothing in deficit, nothing in excess for goods that are healthy and necessary for life. There is also, IMO, normal responsibility not to put physical or mental pressures on other humans through some sort of perceived personal advantage. It’s why this thing is “abnormal” . God and laws were construed to protect or prevent people from harm or doing bad When “nobody else is looking”.1. I don't have a guy
2. I don't ask people how many massages they get, but if someone wants 100 per year, that's their business
3. I just wanted to know what you think a "normal person" is
Listen Steel I dunno but it's probably safe to assume that you won't be getting a new DW4 jersey with his new team (whoever that is), right ?Yep, your guys a perv at best. After thinking about it and looking at the numbers he's a predator. BTW, did you read the SI article? He's also a POS.
Listen Steel I dunno but it's probably safe to assume that you won't be getting a new DW4 jersey with his new team (whoever that is), right ?
Sounds like a lot of teams are no longer interested in him. man, what karma. He treats the Texans like ****, tries to change the NFL in the process, lives his visible superstar status with trips around the world.....and now folks will only know him associated with an a-hole which so magnificently describes his actions. Lol what a Darwin Award waiting to be handed out. I think the alleged crimes are secondary to his self destruction...and now he gets to watch everyone else play some football.Listen Steel I dunno but it's probably safe to assume that you won't be getting a new DW4 jersey with his new team (whoever that is), right ?
Agree. If there was ever a time to have a bidding war, trade a franchise QB and get maximum value, it was this year. Panthers, 49ers, Jets, Dolphins and maybe the Broncos were willing and had enough draft capital to trade for him. All of these teams have addressed their QB needs and don't need the drama, criticism, scrutiny and baggage that will follow him. In the end, besides the fans who always hated him and now revel in his self destruction, there are no winners in this drama.Sounds like a lot of teams are no longer interested in him. man, what karma. He treats the Texans like ****, tries to change the NFL in the process, lives his visible superstar status with trips around the world.....and now folks will only know him associated with an a-hole which so magnificently describes his actions. Lol what a Darwin Award waiting to be handed out. I think the alleged crimes are secondary to his self destruction...and now he gets to watch everyone else play some football.
There are always a handful of teams needing a quarterback. And next years crop of quarterbacks entering the NFL draft is predicted to be pretty weak. As long as Watson is eligible to play in 2022, and I think he will be, the Texans should get some decent return on him.Agree. If there was ever a time to have a bidding war, trade a frachise QB and get maximum value, it was this year. Panthers, 49ers, Jets, Dolphins and maybe the Broncos were willing and had enough draft capital to trade for him. All of these teams have addressed their QB needs and don't need the drama, criticism, scrutiny and baggage that will follow him. In the end, besides the fans who always hated him and now revel in his self destruction, no one will win from this nonsense.
And yes, those gloating and rooting for Watson's complete destruction, knowing that many other lives are being ruined in the process, not a good look. But hey, they get to say they were right about him so yeah, that's what's important in all this.
What other lives are being ruined other than those he imposed himself on for selfish or other reasons? Things were going good with him and the Fans until he pretty much ***** slapped everyone then didn’t have the guts to come out from behind his social media sources To explain his trade demands other than to say he wants to take his toys and go home. And if you are concerned about those other lives then why not rejoice in the fact that he is being prevented from further harming them.There are always a handful of teams needing a quarterback. And next years crop of quarterbacks entering the NFL draft is predicted to be pretty weak. As long as Watson is eligible to play in 2022, and I think he will be, the Texans should get some decent return on him.
And yes, those gloating and rooting for Watson's complete destruction, knowing that many other lives are being ruined in the process, not a good look. But hey, they get to say they were right about him so yeah, that's what's important in all this.
I still say we should keep our eyes on the Panthers, because their new owner David Tepper is an incredibly wealthy man who made it on Wall Street taking chances with his own capitol, and actually I wish he would have bought the Texans instead of the Panthers as he'd be such a much better owner than who we are stuck with at this time.Agree. If there was ever a time to have a bidding war, trade a franchise QB and get maximum value, it was this year. Panthers, 49ers, Jets, Dolphins and maybe the Broncos were willing and had enough draft capital to trade for him. All of these teams have addressed their QB needs and don't need the drama, criticism, scrutiny and baggage that will follow him. In the end, besides the fans who always hated him and now revel in his self destruction, there are no winners in this drama.
Wait... What? We're going to give another team exclusive negotiating rights for a first-round pick? What else does Carolina have to offer? Giving any team negotiating rights implies there are other teams interested so why eliminate that pressure on teams interested?I still say we should keep our eyes on the Panthers, because their new owner David Tepper is an incredibly wealthy man who made it on Wall Street taking chances with his own capitol, and actually I wish he would have bought the Texans instead of the Panthers as he'd be such a much better owner than who we are stuck with at this time.
But back to DW4: Tepper is the kind of investor who knows how to evaluate and handicap risk.
I could see him offering a single high pick (yea first round), for the exclusive rights to negotiate with the Texans for Watson's contract
at some point in time predicated on the resolution of the legal issues.
If I understand you correctly and hopefully I do not, the first round pick to negotiate might be okay but Chicago absolutely nothing else to unless you like Justin Fields
You guys are stuck in the denial stage, lol. Let me guess...you’re one of the slow few convinced that this is just a smear campaign by Buzbee and the Texans, even though Watson’s lawyer publicly admitted Watson had “consensual” sexual encounters with the masseuses? LMAOVery odd definition. So, if I kill 100 people, but don't get 100 massages off instagram, I'm normal according to you?
Also, what's wrong with getting 100 massages off instagram?
Stop being so stingy, you have 10 fingers.Would you like 1 finger or 2 sir?
It's like an option in finance BB. The single high pick would grant them the exclusive rights to negotiate for a limited period of time a trade with the Texans for Watson for additional consideration (draft picks and/or players).Wait... What? We're going to give another team exclusive negotiating rights for a first-round pick? What else does Carolina have to offer? Giving any team negotiating rights implies there are other teams interested so why eliminate that pressure on teams interested?
If I understand you correctly and hopefully I do not, the first round pick to negotiate might be okay but Panthers have absolutely nothing else to offer unless you like Justin Fields better than I do. I know I have a greater value for D W than most here but I just can't see that negotiating tactic at all.
I understand the option example IDEXAN but why would you do that with the Panthers? As I asked what would you be negotiating from them as they have perhaps a top-10 pick and not much else. Would that exclusivity also lower the pressure on other teams to make a better offer? I see what Carolina would get from that but what would Houston?It's like an option in finance BB. The single high pick would grant them the exclusive rights to negotiate for a limited period of time a trade with the Texans for Watson for additional consideration (draft picks and/or players).
I’d do it, take the pick, then not make the trade and get more picks from another team for him...so this whole concept is baloney IMO.It's like an option in finance BB. The single high pick would grant them the exclusive rights to negotiate for a limited period of time a trade with the Texans for Watson for additional consideration (draft picks and/or players).
None of us really know what's going on with these cases and the plaintiffs or Watson and his legal team, but rather it's all just idle speculationI understand the option example IDEXAN but why would you do that with the Panthers? As I asked what would you be negotiating from them as they have perhaps a top-10 pick and not much else. Would that exclusivity also lower the pressure on other teams to make a better offer? I see what Carolina would get from that but what would Houston?
If you were a shrewd and patient investor would you take a public relations hit from even showing interest in this guy? This all assumes that some of these charges stick of course. But I don’t think this is going away for him as it now stands.None of us really know what's going on with these cases and the plaintiffs or Watson and his legal team, but rather it's all just idle speculation
on our parts.
What I've suggested is just hypothetical of course but sometimes it's the kind of contract that traders like Tepper enter into.
It's not much different than what a land developer might do when he buys an option on a piece of R/E that he thinks might become more valuable because of more favorable zoning in the future.
By now I suspect the McNairs are pretty anxious to rid themselves of DW4 & the entire drama that goes with him, and you can bet that a shrewd and patient investor like Tepper is watching this whole situation with great interest.
The fact that DW4 & Harding are willing to make it all public while Buzzbutt and his clients want it all to remain under wraps and thereforIf you were a shrewd and patient investor would you take a public relations hit from even showing interest in this guy? This all assumes that some of these charges stick of course. But I don’t think this is going away for him as it now stands.
That actually doesn’t mean anything at all. They want CERTAIN things public. Don’t let them fool you.The fact that DW4 & Harding are willing to make it all public while Buzzbutt and his clients want it all to remain under wraps and therefor
shielded from public scrutiny seems to suggest that DW4 didn't do anything that's truly reprehensible, but never the less Buzzbutt seems to have an unbreakable grip on Watsons NFL career.
The fact that DW4 & Harding are willing to make it all public while Buzzbutt and his clients want it all to remain under wraps and therefor
shielded from public scrutiny seems to suggest that DW4 didn't do anything that's truly reprehensible, but never the less Buzzbutt seems to have an unbreakable grip on Watsons NFL career.
I feel that DW4 is guilty of hiring prostitutes in regards to at least some of these women and mistakenly hiring legit massage therapist for happy endings without doing better research on them. I hope DW4 at least has to pay these women a substantial amount of money and at most he'll do some jail time. I was one of those people that gave DW4 the benefit of the doubt but the more I read and discover the more I think he is guilty as charged and he deserves some sort of punishment.You guys are stuck in the denial stage, lol. Let me guess...you’re one of the slow few convinced that this is just a smear campaign by Buzbee and the Texans, even though Watson’s lawyer publicly admitted Watson had “consensual” sexual encounters with the masseuses? LMAO
So with the contract issues, the huge number of masseuses and their claims, the fact of consensual sex with some of them (via Hardin) etc DW has done nothing to hurt his public perception by his own actions which are kept “under wraps” By Buzzbee? everyone Has an opinion on this but I for one, in today’s world, just don’t see this easily going away. I don’t like it. I want him gone with draft picks. If you were an owner, today, based on what we know about the guy, would you impose him on your team and fans? He’s like that grease stain on your favorite shirt. You can wear it but a lot of folks notice it.The fact that DW4 & Harding are willing to make it all public while Buzzbutt and his clients want it all to remain under wraps and therefor
shielded from public scrutiny seems to suggest that DW4 didn't do anything that's truly reprehensible, but never the less Buzzbutt seems to have an unbreakable grip on Watsons NFL career.
None of us really know what's going on with these cases and the plaintiffs or Watson and his legal team, but rather it's all just idle speculation
on our parts.
What I've suggested is just hypothetical of course but sometimes it's the kind of contract that traders like Tepper enter into.
It's not much different than what a land developer might do when he buys an option on a piece of R/E that he thinks might become more valuable because of more favorable zoning in the future.
By now I suspect the McNairs are pretty anxious to rid themselves of DW4 & the entire drama that goes with him, and you can bet that a shrewd and patient investor like Tepper is watching this whole situation with great interest.
There are virtually an infinite number and variety of "reports" out and about and circulating so pick the one, anyone that suits your personalConsidering that reports are out that Watson’s team has contacted the other legal team about settling... I think we get a good idea
Whether he faces charges or not, the trade request out of nowhere always seemed suspect
Thank him? He backed that man on multiple occasionsWhen this is over, gasp, and the book comes out, on one hand Cal and even OB might be exonerated. On the other hand we might have to thank DW for sacrificing his career to help us get rid of OB. Or if DW is only fully exonerated we can trade his butt. So in the end everyone wins![]()