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2021 NFL Draft
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badboy
Hall of Fame
And that 40 is all dead money.
Texian
Hall of Fame
So there are going to be changes, by all accounts I don't think there is going to be a Feb Combine. All interviews will be done via Zoom. Workouts will be done at individual pro days and medical evaluations are looking like they will do them in early April. Official announcement about Combine changes is still in the making.
leebigeztx
Keep it Movin!
Watt had 5 sacks this year. If anyone gives up anything higher than a 5th rd pick, the Texans would be lucky. Mckinney and getting that either.
TexansFan15
All Pro
I want us to draft a new C. Martin has been mediocre at best, and his contract isn’t worth keeping him around.
It’sa great year for OL and I think we could upgrade in the 3rd or 4th.
Quinn Meinerz was a senior bowl standout and I loved what I was drinking in the clips.
Josh Myers and Creed Humphrey are other guys I’d consider, but they might be off the board.
It’sa great year for OL and I think we could upgrade in the 3rd or 4th.
Quinn Meinerz was a senior bowl standout and I loved what I was drinking in the clips.
Josh Myers and Creed Humphrey are other guys I’d consider, but they might be off the board.
Had time lately to really get to looking at some kids in this one and if we do end up moving DW I wouldn't be mad at a haul that nabs us..
1.2 - QB Zach Wilson
1.23 - S Trevon Moehrig
2.34 - ED Joe Tryon
2022 1st
2022 3rd
DL Quinnen Williams
1.2 - QB Zach Wilson
1.23 - S Trevon Moehrig
2.34 - ED Joe Tryon
2022 1st
2022 3rd
DL Quinnen Williams
whodknee
Working Class Hero
CBS Sports has the same mock with the Jets and Texans.
Those guys are most likely to go off of the board in the 2nd rd. If they dont and they're BPA I could get on board with that pick.
I like Moehrig (ground covered, instincts/iq, tackling, ball skills) far better than Melifonwu and I'll take a terrific edge prospect like Tryon rather than clustering two DT's if the scenario already includes Q Williams. And I say that quite liking Barmore.
Jmo..
badboy
Hall of Fame
I guess that means he's going to the Dolphins?CBS Sports has the same mock with the Jets and Texans.
Love Moehrig had him as my #1 S but after the Sr Bowl I've moved Rich Grant up there. Covers like a CB, can cover single high. Sure tackler. Reminds me of Earl Thomas.
Draft Barimore at 23 and Ellison Smith at the top of the 3rd rd and you have a really good young DL.
Ohmeniu/Williams/Barimore/Smith
Then there's a LB and another CB that I like in rd 4. LB Isiah McDuffie and Keith Taylor CB UW as another CB. These guys can run.
LB's Cunningham/Adams/McDuffie
CB's Melifonu/Taylor with Roby at the nickle
S Reid /and Yuck
This defense would be so much faster.
Given up on Blacklock? Seems like a good fit in Smith's front as a 3-tech.
Texansphan
Football connoisseur
McKinney ain't splashy, but he is a helluva workhorse. Would hate to lose him.
TexansFan15
All Pro
Don’t get me wrong I really like him, but I’m just worried about his speed in Lovie’s system.
Forgot about him
Then give me Melifonu in the 1st.
I really like Jordan Smith at 23 too.
TexansFan15
All Pro
I think that might be a little high for Smith
I like him alot, he's a great talent and is just scratching the surface of what he can be.
Texian
Hall of Fame
The thing that scares me about Matt Jones is he was surrounded by an enormous amount of talent. What is he like when he is not?
Texian
Hall of Fame
That's about where PFF Draft Guide has Mond slotted. In @steelbtexan Jets trade mock I opted for QB Davis Mills from Stanford because I thought he has a higher ceiling.
In recent years, the better QBs have been drafted outside the top 10, so unless Zack slides.... I wouldn’t expect the Texans to draft him. Instead, I’d be looking for the next Kalil Mack, Ndomokong Suh, or even a Ray Lewis
I put this list in quotes to save space. But this is every QB taken in the top 10 from 2014-2020 and all notable QB's taken after the top 10.
Mind you there were many several more 'nobodies' from the after top 10 group but it would probably jam the server.
But I'll leave it up to anyone to read into it what they'd like..
This guy is going to be a superstar. Or, so I was told 4 years ago.
Yep, @Mollywhopper 's list confirms just how easy it is to get a franchise QB. No problem replacing Watson.
So you would rather be stuck with a QB whose cap number won't allow you to win a SB?
But hey, you got your QB.
Yes, I’d rather have a QB than cap space. The salary cap trophy celebration is pretty lame.
Unfortunately, I don’t get a choice in the matter.
I would rather have a chance at. at a championship and no QB making more than 14 percent of the cap has ever won one of those. I sincerely doubt that DW4's going to be the guy to break this trend.
It's easier to work around that cap, the way it's been done time & time again in the NFL than it is to find one that can actually play.
Granted, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Jimmy Garropolo, & Ryan Tannehill have been to conference Championship games. & they'll never be making $40M/yr.
But the fact is the contract isn't set in stone.
Yep but the numbers are what they are and why haven't teams been able to work around that number.
Pretty sure those guys will make $40 million at some point in the future.
You’re confusing correlation & causation. Many a $5M/yr QBs have not won a Super Bowl even though their teams could afford to build around them.
The NFL is changing.
The percentages aren't changing though and I expect it to be worse as the cap contracts.
So I guess you're right with the lower cap the NFL is definitely going to go through change.
That & they’re still paying QBs like crazy. The only thing lower caps will affect is the leftovers teams are willing to pay everyone else.
Remember when Blake Bortles signed a $20M/yr contract?
Jimmy Garoppolo ate up 14% of the 49ers 2020 cap.
Bridgewater made $22M, Tayson Hill made $16M
odds are against a team from Houston ever winning a Super Bowl. Adding another “impossible” scenario to the mix ain’t really a big deal.
But QBs get paid.
EDIT: those are 2021 numbers
TexansFan15
All Pro
Quinn Meinerz
I WANT this guy!!! Dedicated, hard worker, willing to make adjustments both on and off the field
I would love to see what he could do if he were to replace Martin.
I WANT this guy!!! Dedicated, hard worker, willing to make adjustments both on and off the field
I would love to see what he could do if he were to replace Martin.
Texian
Hall of Fame
I do like his athleticism. More so than most OL.
Daniel Jeremiah's top 50 draft prospects rev 2.0 is posted on NFL.com. Nothing eye opening in of itself. But, if you click on the player links, it takes you to that players draft page, including Lance Zierlein's analysis. I don't think his entire 2021 writeups have been posted, though. Here are some of the QB player pages.
Trevor Lawrence - 7.40 grade - no comp
Trey Lance - 6.45 grade - Deshaun Watson comp
Zach Wilson - 6.43 grade - Jake Plummer comp
Justin Fields - 6.42 grade - Dak Prescott comp
Trevor Lawrence - 7.40 grade - no comp
Trey Lance - 6.45 grade - Deshaun Watson comp
Zach Wilson - 6.43 grade - Jake Plummer comp
Justin Fields - 6.42 grade - Dak Prescott comp
They cant comp Lawrence? Why? I will give you a comp in the pre draft process, Herbert if he develops.
Lance- Potential Steve Young, I haven't seen much of him but that's his skillset from what I've watched in videos.
Wilson- I see as more of a Rodgers/Jim Kelly kind of guy. He's got a much better arm and 3 ints tells me he's a better decision maker than Plummer.
Fields- I see as a Jake Locker type guy. With a better body for taking the punishment.
They forgot 1 guy, Mac Jones- Better Tua (Ask Devontae Smith), ceiling Burrow had.
A 7.40 grade comes out as a potential perennial All Pro. What QB got that grade recently? In contrast, Herbert had a 6.45 coming out last year.
My bad, there is a Mac Jones writeup.
Mac Jones - 6.28 draft grade - AJ McCarron comp
Mac Jones just became @thunderkyss favorite prospect.
I think Herbert will end up being the better QB. Although I think Lawrence will be good.
Maybe I'm crazy but I like Jones more than Tua coming out. Stronger arm, same accuracy and anticipation. Moves around well in the pocket. What do you think are the differences between Tua/Jones?
Texian
Hall of Fame
Never a DJ fan. Had 3 scouting jobs, never lasted more than 2 years at each job. Always funny when Mayock would get frustrated and admonish DJ for being dumb. Guys at PFF always having a laugh at DJs expense.
FIFY
The write ups are from Lance Zierlein, not Jeremiah.
I can't find LZ'a write-ups this year.
Texian
Hall of Fame
I've no problem with the writeups/analysis, the rankings, where they are slotted (Jeremiah) there are some head scratchers.
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Like Mayock’s did and Kiper’s do, Jeremiah’s rankings will change five times before draft day.
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