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I don't see an upside to playing hard ball. Why would the deal we get be any better over time if we make him sit? Timing is an issue also -- I'd rather trade him before the draft to capitalize on picks this year. I still think that we're going to get a lot back in compensation, just not as much as many of the proposals we're seeing here.
Right, but they're more desperate after the draft than before? Maybe, but you'd then be getting 2022 draft picks which you're not certain where will land vs 2021 picks that have already been slotted and are much more valuable. But yes, I think that you need to be willing to not trade him initially if all offers are piss poor -- I just don't think that will be the case.Teams get desperate as the season approaches and during the season. And having a 3-time pro bowler and budding star qb up for sale...for some teams, it would be just too good to not go after him with a nice deal...especially if you’re a team on the cusp.
Send him away then.
So much for being a leader and winner and a man of character and humble.
If he wants to be a NBAified primadonna little ***** then that's fine by me.
My fault for thinking he was actually what he was billed as.
Go chase whatever dumb thing you're chasing somewhere else, Deshaun. And it doesn't seem to be a ring that you're chasing.
Right, but they're more desperate after the draft than before? Maybe, but you'd then be getting 2022 draft picks which you're not certain where will land vs 2021 picks that have already been slotted and are much more valuable. But yes, I think that you need to be willing to not trade him initially if all offers are piss poor -- I just don't think that will be the case.
I'm taking 2021 slotted picks over uncertain 2022 picks. The Jets #2 is valued at (4) 1sts in the back end of the round (if your trade partner does really well) and (2) mid round 1sts and a high 2nd (if your trade partner does average). I want to be guaranteed to be at the top of the draft -- there's too much risk where those 2022 picks are going to land for me.getting 2022 draft picks would be fine for me if it means we get good value in return for him. I mean this team was likely not going to be that good with him this year anyway so....plus the teams going after him will likely not be very good and assuming we get close to the value he’s worth, they will probably be gutted for the foreseeable future too.
He would wind up in a situation similar to what he’s already in now with us. A not very good team that can’t really build around him.
What's funny is the same people who want to ignore the SI articles and ignore Andre's tweet are the same folks who want to ignore this is about Cal and Easterby.
At the year end conference call, Watson specifically mentioned organizational leadership, power and culture. Has anything changed to address his concerns? Is it any surprise he wants to leave this mess?
What are you talking about? Deshaun is being praised league wide for having an amazing season, despite this dumpster fire of an organization trading away his biggest weapon and risking injury in meaningless games. He finished Top 5 at his position when he could have mailed it in. THAT is a leader.
We clearly have different definitions of a leader, if you think him wanting a front office committed to winning dis-qualifies everything else he’s done.
I would play hardball because you're going to lose the trade big time. If they trade him, it will be from a position of weakness. Everyone knows it now. Jets aren't giving up all those picks when they can minimize you.
I'm taking 2021 slotted picks over uncertain 2022 picks. The Jets #2 is valued at (4) 1sts in the back end of the round (if your trade partner does really well) and (2) mid round 1sts and a high 2nd (if your trade partner does average). I want to be guaranteed to be at the top of the draft -- there's too much risk where those 2022 picks are going to land for me.
JJ certainly helped fuel the fire.The video of JJ apologizing to Watson for wasting a year of his career certainly seems like foreshadowing at this point.
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JJ certainly helped fuel the fire.
I hope we tank too. I think this is a lot smarter than trying to bring in a Stafford or someone else to try to be competitive. We don't have the cap space to make that kind of overhaul work and we have too many missing pieces.it wont matter once we go ahead and go 0-16 this year our 2022 pick will be #1!!!!
I hope we tank too. I think this is a lot smarter than trying to bring in a Stafford or someone else to try to be competitive. We don't have the cap space to make that kind of overhaul work and we have too many pieces missing.
But we were talking about draft picks that we get back in a trade, not draft picks we get based on our performance. We really need to maximize the trade return to get the rebuild right.
Pretty much what I got out of it.Watson formal request for trade hushed up might explain coach:
If Watson formally requested/demanded trade weeks ago as reported, all coaches interviewed would have been told, and several must have bowed out, leaving us with Fraizer and Culley as the remaining options.
Hopefully this time it includes fire.
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Not gonna' lie, I hope fans run this franchise out of the city with its tail between its legs. As much as folks hate Bud Adams, HE WAS NEVER THIS STUPID!!
I've got a bunch of Texans merch I'm about to put up for sale, including a nice stained glass logo that I made years ago. I'll keep my military tribute JJ Watt jersey (and my custom jerseys because nobody would buy them), but everything else that I've accumulated over the years will be up for grabs, including all my tailgating gear.
I just can't anymore. Loyalty "just because" is mindless to me. There is no entertainment value in misplacing hope with a terribly run organization that only cares about money and some bizarre cult-of-personality culture BS.
I'll stick around here for the friends I've made and to help ridicule them into eternity, at least until Hookem shuts it all down from disgust.
Don’t give them any ideasI say we trade Watson for a couple of 2nds. That'll show everyone we don't take kindly to this kind of horseshit.
Signed,
Cal&Easteregg
Deshaun Watson should say screw the Texans. They are a bottom rung organization and I don’t blame him one bit for wanting to get tf outta town.
I'm wondering if he's serious about the Jets. That would be great for the Texans as they have a lot of capitol. But will they want to hand it over?
But... The Jets is as bottom rung as the Texans. So throwing dueces & going to the Jets... I mean sounds like a Texans thing to do.
Im thinking this is not completely football related and there’s some social issues going on in the Texans organization.
I know you're right and the only chance we as fans have is if either Janice changes the top of the organization or the minority owners put some skin in the game. Stop leaking stories out that have the potential to further tarnish the team and speak up for the fans. Make a positive difference.NFL franchises have their own demands. Just ask season ticket holders every February. And I recall the local franchise demanding a billion dollar taxpayer funded stadium just to exist.
I have no sympathy for greedy and stupid sports teams owners that basically extort cities out of public funds to build their little playgrounds.
And yeah, you're right, the Texans aren't going anywhere anytime soon. They will be cellar-dwellers for many years to come if Cal and Jack remain in charge.
So that would explain why he’s ok with going to other bad football teams.
No matter how deeply the Texans sink into the muck, I will continue to at least lurk on this board, hoovering and waiting for TexasPenguin to post something so I can dislike the hell out of it. I am that petty.TexasPenguin doesn't like your post.
Exactly. That mother trucker is wrong all the time. Can’t stand liste to his arrogant ass. When someone gives themselves a nickname you know they’re full of shot.While John McClain is on NFL radio saying Watson has not requested a trade, Schefter finds out the request was made weeks ago.
How does this McClain have a job as a reporter?
Wait, he gave himself the nickname Pancakes?Exactly. That mother trucker is wrong all the time. Can’t stand liste to his arrogant ass. When someone gives themselves a nickname you know they’re full of shot.
Look at the bright side. They have hit bottom. It can only get better...right?No matter how deeply the Texans sink into the muck, I will continue to at least lurk on this board, hoovering and waiting for TexasPenguin to post something so I can dislike the hell out of it. I am that petty.
Just kidding!
The GeneralWait, he gave himself the nickname Pancakes?
McClain always throws softballs like a lot of reporters. It allows them access to the subjects and gives them staying power.Exactly. That mother trucker is wrong all the time. Can’t stand liste to his arrogant ass. When someone gives themselves a nickname you know they’re full of shot.
Rock bottom? As in no where else but up right? Well This is the Texans we’re talking about, they’ll probably go sideways before deciding to go upLook at the bright side. They have hit bottom. It can only get better...right?
Sideways is where I'm headedRock bottom? As in no where else but up right? Well This is the Texans we’re talking about, they’ll probably go sideways before deciding to go up
Lol no the general!Wait, he gave himself the nickname Pancakes?
You do know this is a thread about the Texans, right? It can ALWAYS get worse.Look at the bright side. They have hit bottom. It can only get better...right?
Nut, your preaching to the choirI don't see any way the Texans get out of this mess for several years and that's only if they play their cards right. Most of us here have followed them since they started and would probably agree. King BO mortgaged the team with his moronic trades trying to get a big win season. He knew that he needed some kind of championship to keep his job besides winning the sisters of the poor AFC South Division. So he gave away the house because he knew it was a 10 alarm fire and was burning hard. He was grabbing at straws. Along comes the next fire: Silver Spoon McNair believes in the Easter Bunny. Now we got a bunch of rookies that none of them have done the job before and we got more holes in the team than a dartboard in a beer joint. I really think we are toast. No way we get a quarterback again capable of winning the Super Bowl for years. This organization is a complete clusterfart and will continue to trip over their own feet. Other than that, the owner is making a bunch of dough so everything is cool and will remain in the same status quo.
I know. I'm pissed off because my PSL's aren't worth schitt now and I don't want to pay all that season ticket dough for a team that doesn't have a chance to win for years. I'll get up off the canvas tomorrow.Nut, your preaching to the choir
Yeah..Me too. They talked me into paying early with free food and I fell for itI know. I'm pissed off because my PSL's aren't worth schitt now and I don't want to pay all that season ticket dough for a team that doesn't have a chance to win for years. I'll get up off the canvas tomorrow.
You're gonna have to pay someone a lot of money if you want to get rid of those PSLs. You can at least get a tax break if you donate them to Kars for Kids.I know. I'm pissed off because my PSL's aren't worth schitt now and I don't want to pay all that season ticket dough for a team that doesn't have a chance to win for years. I'll get up off the canvas tomorrow.
Surprisingly there is a waiting list. But I may get seat improvement this yearYou're gonna have to pay someone a lot of money if you want to get rid of those PSLs. You can at least get a tax break if you donate them to Kars for Kids.