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Easterby’s Takeover complete..Watson wants out

PapaL said:
If you can’t trust your employer, you should seek employment elsewhere.

Good job by DW4. It’s his career and his legacy. Secure it. Don’t waste another career on this loser franchise.
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Exactly my mindset. End of day you gotta do what’s best for you. Call it being selfish but it is what it is.
 
Maverick said:
Andre said it best, “nothing good has happened since easterby has gotten here”. And i do believe he was in the building to witness what shapes his opinion.
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What's funny is the same people who want to ignore the SI articles and ignore Andre's tweet are the same folks who want to ignore this is about Cal and Easterby.
At the year end conference call, Watson specifically mentioned organizational leadership, power and culture. Has anything changed to address his concerns? Is it any surprise he wants to leave this mess?
 
QuiGonGinNTonic said:
why doesnt every other team that loses do same thing then?
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How bad was it to be a Texans player in 2020?

The team traded their best offensive weapon for a dead cat and a can of Pringles
They let their best defensive player walk for nothing
They brought back a coach/GM that was hated by the roster
The season was over four games in

Watson carried the team on his back in 2020. Their record sucked, but he played his ass off. Arguably, Watson was one of the few players out there even trying to win games in 2020.
 
gwallaia said:
Time for another organized fan protest on Kirby.
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Hopefully this time it includes fire.

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Porky said:
I think 90% of the fans are requesting a trade. Hey Cal, trade me to the Chiefs fans for a box of crackerjacks and a used condom. That would be about the same as the Hopkins trade.
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Not gonna' lie, I hope fans run this franchise out of the city with its tail between its legs. As much as folks hate Bud Adams, HE WAS NEVER THIS STUPID!!

I've got a bunch of Texans merch I'm about to put up for sale, including a nice stained glass logo that I made years ago. I'll keep my military tribute JJ Watt jersey (and my custom jerseys because nobody would buy them), but everything else that I've accumulated over the years will be up for grabs, including all my tailgating gear.

I just can't anymore. Loyalty "just because" is mindless to me. There is no entertainment value in misplacing hope with a terribly run organization that only cares about money and some bizarre cult-of-personality culture BS.

I'll stick around here for the friends I've made and to help ridicule them into eternity, at least until Hookem shuts it all down from disgust.
 
The1ApplePie said:
How bad was it to be a Texans player in 2020?

The team traded their best offensive weapon for a dead cat and a can of Pringles
They let their best defensive player walk for nothing
They brought back a coach/GM that was hated by the roster
The season was over four games in

Watson carried the team on his back in 2020. Their record sucked, but he played his ass off. Arguably, Watson was one of the few players out there even trying to win games in 2020.
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so thats the reason he wants out ok, if i was watson id come back next season and win the superbowl :sarcasm:
 
PHILLYTEXANFAN said:
Has anyone on here felt the boo hoo shots from JJ were directed at Deshaun? No im not buying the “sorry we wasted your years” nonsense
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For millions of dollars the Texans can waste a few of my years. I got no sympathy for overpaid sports players who demand things. Keep him, trade him, I don't care, because either way the Texans aren't going anywhere anytime soon.
 
dream_team said:
Screwing the franchise would have been to play his rookie contract out and leave in FA. By extending with the Texans, at least we have a trade-able asset that will demand a huge return.
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Exactly this. Watson has done the Texans two *huge* favors. Firstly as dream_team says, signing that contract. And secondly, playing his heart out this season and putting up remarkable stats has made him a super hot commodity. Imagine if he'd mailed it in and the requested a trade, we'd get half the haul we should now expect.

With that said, it's devastating what this team has been through. Easterby is a suicide bomber who McNair fell in love with.
 
Dubyateeeff
This is messed up
It don't matter who you bring in here they ain't gonna be happy and they will want out - you wont have a top tier team until whoever the cancer is eating away at this organization is gone.
Cal needs to get rid of him or his fathers team is history.
 
Double Barrel said:
I've got a bunch of Texans merch I'm about to put up for sale, including a nice stained glass logo that I made years ago. I'll keep my military tribute JJ Watt jersey (and my custom jerseys because nobody would buy them), but everything else that I've accumulated over the years will be up for grabs, including all my tailgating gear.
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I donated all my stuff to Goodwill, the clothes anyway. I'll keep my beer mugs, I like beer.
 
Thorn said:
For millions of dollars the Texans can waste a few of my years. I got no sympathy for overpaid sports players who demand things. Keep him, trade him, I don't care, because either way the Texans aren't going anywhere anytime soon.
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My thoughts exactly. The players know that 95% of the times fans will side with them in situations like this..especially when you’re as good as he is. Fact is, it’s a team game and you can’t cry about organizational leadership power and culture and then be out the door as soon as **** gets tough and something goes against you....especially when the organization just backed up the brinks truck and paid you.
 
CstatTexan said:
If JJ decides to retire, the same group of company men on this forum will find a way to blame him for this organizations failures. They claim to want whats best for the team but are quick turn on any player as long as it deflects blame and responsibility away from the organization.
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Truest statement on this thread.
 
Thorn said:
For millions of dollars the Texans can waste a few of my years. I got no sympathy for overpaid sports players who demand things. Keep him, trade him, I don't care, because either way the Texans aren't going anywhere anytime soon.
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NFL franchises have their own demands. Just ask season ticket holders every February. And I recall the local franchise demanding a billion dollar taxpayer funded stadium just to exist.

I have no sympathy for greedy and stupid sports teams owners that basically extort cities out of public funds to build their little playgrounds.

And yeah, you're right, the Texans aren't going anywhere anytime soon. They will be cellar-dwellers for many years to come if Cal and Jack remain in charge.
 
Double Barrel said:
Hopefully this time it includes fire.

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Not gonna' lie, I hope fans run this franchise out of the city with its tail between its legs. As much as folks hate Bud Adams, HE WAS NEVER THIS STUPID!!

I've got a bunch of Texans merch I'm about to put up for sale, including a nice stained glass logo that I made years ago. I'll keep my military tribute JJ Watt jersey (and my custom jerseys because nobody would buy them), but everything else that I've accumulated over the years will be up for grabs, including all my tailgating gear.

I just can't anymore. Loyalty "just because" is mindless to me. There is no entertainment value in misplacing hope with a terribly run organization that only cares about money and some bizarre cult-of-personality culture BS.

I'll stick around here for the friends I've made and to help ridicule them into eternity, at least until Hookem shuts it all down from disgust.
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Stopped buying jerseys 20 years ago. Most players dont care about the city or franchises they play for. The players nor the owners aren’t left holding the bag when stuff like this happens, it’s always the fans.
 
Mr teX said:
Nothing really did change other than what was already on the horizon before he signed his extension. BoB WAS going to be fired at some point in 2020. We WERE going to have to get another GM at some point.

With all that uncertainty surrounding this franchise, it would behoove him to take a step back and see how that shakes out before you ink a long term deal with the franchise.

But he didn’t do that..and I can see both sides of it, but when we look at it from a pure business standpoint, it’s clear he didn’t give 2 shots about the situation he was putting the Texans in.
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Maybe he signed that contract hoping for the best but expecting the worst. That might be the reason for only 4 years and the no-trade clause.
 
Texian said:
Cal McNair = Obstinate. Arrogant, Stubborn, Insensitive, Spoiled Trust Fund Baby.
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Feels like this team is a train set that daddy gave him for Christmas instead of a team being run for the fan base. He's completely out of touch with the fans in a way that only a trust fund baby could be.
 
"Watson has requested a trade" is probably not accurate. "Watson has requested a trade to a specific team or so" is probably what the situation really is. If I were the Texans, I would tell Watson that if he waives the no-trade clause so that they can get max value, then I would trade him. If not, then so be it, either show up for work or don't. If he wanted the ability to choose his team, he shouldn't have signed the contract.
 
Send him away then.

So much for being a leader and winner and a man of character and humble.

If he wants to be a NBAified primadonna little ***** then that's fine by me.

My fault for thinking he was actually what he was billed as.

Go chase whatever dumb thing you're chasing somewhere else, Deshaun. And it doesn't seem to be a ring that you're chasing.
 
Earl34 said:
What's funny is the same people who want to ignore the SI articles and ignore Andre's tweet are the same folks who want to ignore this is about Cal and Easterby.
At the year end conference call, Watson specifically mentioned organizational leadership, power and culture. Has anything changed to address his concerns? Is it any surprise he wants to leave this mess?
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Amazing isn't it? When Andre Johnson, who tweets once every 3 yrs calls out Esterbunny and Cal, then Cal comes out and states this dude is unfairly criticized, he was blind.
 
Earl34 said:
Maybe he signed that contract hoping for the best but expecting the worst. That might be the reason for only 4 years and the no-trade clause.
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Agreed, but i don’t know anyone who would sign a long term deal like that with such dysfunction and uncertainty surrounding them unless they planned on being there to fix it. He signed his extension for 1 year less than normal and and he dropped a no-trade clause in it...So those 2 things to me he tell me he was not planning on being here long term when he signed his deal b/c the variables that you’re “standing your ground” for were already in place before you signed. He could’ve bet on himself like some guys do and just played out his rookie deal and then went to the highest bidder in the offseason. He didn’t do that though, he went for the money grab and in doing so put this franchise in a situation. I can’t fault him for taking the money, but what I can fault him for is not making his problems with the organization known sooner to where the franchise could’ve navigated the situation a little better.... Maybe he did who knows, all I know is I’m not shedding any tears about him feeling “disrespected” nor am I feeling any kind of way about him “wasting his career” here either.

None of that absolves him of the decision he made to go ahead and sign his extension knowing full well the dysfunction was already there. Further, the FO could claim the “hoping for the best” argument as well.

He’s a bright talent, I wish him success wherever he goes...but that’s as far as it goes for me.
 
TheMatrix31 said:
Send him away then.

So much for being a leader and winner and a man of character and humble.

If he wants to be a NBAified primadonna little ***** then that's fine by me.

My fault for thinking he was actually what he was billed as.

Go chase whatever dumb thing you're chasing somewhere else, Deshaun. And it doesn't seem to be a ring that you're chasing.
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Aye man you’ll be ok lol. The sun will still shine.
 
leebigeztx said:
False narrative. Its not about Bieniemy, its about Esterbunny pulling the strings, yet nobody can describe what he actually does.
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Well if no one can describe what he does, how does apparently everyone know he’s “pulling the strings”? I get it, the players dislike him..that much is obvious...but you gotta watch how you interpret that.

And it is about Bienemy somewhat b/c apparently Easterby is supposedly the reason he wasn’t interviewed before Caserio got hired and B, the news of him “officially” requesting a trade broke literally 1 day after they announced Culley would be hired for HC.

Although the formal request was supposedly put in weeks ago and the media just somehow hadn’t gotten ahold of that info....although they’d pretty much gotten ahold of everything else before then.
 
Man, this guy is getting roasted on the Twitter! Mostly by the local talking heads. Patrick Storm specifically
 
cdollaz said:
"Watson has requested a trade" is probably not accurate. "Watson has requested a trade to a specific team or so" is probably what the situation really is. If I were the Texans, I would tell Watson that if he waives the no-trade clause so that they can get max value, then I would trade him. If not, then so be it, either show up for work or don't. If he wanted the ability to choose his team, he shouldn't have signed the contract.
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DW4 has already said he wants to go to NYJ and Jets have the most draft capital. This shouldn't be a problem as long as they can come to agreement for at least 4 1st RD draft picks. Anything less and Texans got greased again.
 
So do you guys think the Texans should play hard ball with him or just let him go for a halfway decent package?

My stance is play hardball since it’s already been reported that he’s willing to do so. The Texans have endured all this bad press so far, what’s a little more to ensure they get max return?

He can sit out and accrue a **** ton of fines and penalties, or he can play ball and let us find the best deal for US.

These guys have to start being held accountable for the deals they sign.
 
Porky said:
I think 90% of the fans are requesting a trade. Hey Cal, trade me to the Chiefs fans for a box of crackerjacks and a used condom. That would be about the same as the Hopkins trade.
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He traded me to the Saints for the complete collection of Jack Chick tracts.

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I'm starting to wonder if watsons issue is with cal not easterby or nick. Its probably the only reason why easterby is still here cause cal knows if he fires him and watson still demands a trade then everyone knows he's the real culprit in all this mess
 
Mr teX said:
So do you guys think the Texans should play hard ball with him or just let him go for a halfway decent package?

My stance is play hardball since it’s already been reported that he’s willing to do so. The Texans have endured all this bad press so far, what’s a little more to ensure they get max return?

He can sit out and accrue a **** ton of fines and penalties, or he can play ball and let us find the best deal for US.

These guys have to start being held accountable for the deals they sign.
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As long as DW is reasonable and gives a decent list of teams he's willing to play for... we've already heard Jets & Dolphins, it won't take long to get good offers.
 
Decim8 said:
I'm starting to wonder if watsons issue is with cal not easterby or nick. Its probably the only reason why easterby is still here cause cal knows if he fires him and watson still demands a trade then everyone knows he's the real culprit in all this mess
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cal making bob the scapegoat?
 
dream_team said:
As long as DW is reasonable and gives a decent list of teams he's willing to play for... we've already heard Jets & Dolphins, it won't take long to get good offers.
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He's not going to do that. He's scorched earthing because that's the only thing these young losers know how to do.

And he's got people like Richard Sherman doing his bidding trying to tank value, saying that "if I were the Jets, I wouldn't give up multiple firsts for him." As if he's their freakin' GM.

OK, then the Jets won't get him then.
 
The Texans applied for inclusion to the MAC but were denied. Maybe play an independent slate of games. I hear Slippery Rock U has an opening.
 
Mr teX said:
So do you guys think the Texans should play hard ball with him or just let him go for a halfway decent package?

My stance is play hardball since it’s already been reported that he’s willing to do so. The Texans have endured all this bad press so far, what’s a little more to ensure they get max return?

He can sit out and accrue a **** ton of fines and penalties, or he can play ball and let us find the best deal for US.

These guys have to start being held accountable for the deals they sign.
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A great deal or make him stay.

I'm dreaming 90's Cowboys style.
 
Mr teX said:
So do you guys think the Texans should play hard ball with him or just let him go for a halfway decent package?

My stance is play hardball since it’s already been reported that he’s willing to do so. The Texans have endured all this bad press so far, what’s a little more to ensure they get max return?

He can sit out and accrue a **** ton of fines and penalties, or he can play ball and let us find the best deal for US.

These guys have to start being held accountable for the deals they sign.
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I would play hardball because you're going to lose the trade big time. If they trade him, it will be from a position of weakness. Everyone knows it now. Jets aren't giving up all those picks when they can minimize you.
 
Mr teX said:
Kind have lost a little respect for DW4 at this point too. As I stated in other threads... Dude, you had a front row seat to the dysfunction for years before you signed your deal...if there was any thought...any thought at all about wanting out then, shouldn’t have signed the deal & forced his way out that way...
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He could have not signed & then go through what Cousins & Dak went through. If it were me, I'd sign, & force a trade. Seems like the easier way to get paid & get what you want. Plus with the no trade clause. There is the risk that the Texans could play hardball... where he either plays or pays them. But that's not likely to happen.
 
Mr teX said:
So do you guys think the Texans should play hard ball with him or just let him go for a halfway decent package?

He can sit out and accrue a **** ton of fines and penalties, or he can play ball and let us find the best deal for US.
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I don't see an upside to playing hard ball. Why would the deal we get be any better over time if we make him sit? Timing is an issue also -- I'd rather trade him before the draft to capitalize on picks this year. I still think that we're going to get a lot back in compensation, just not as much as many of the proposals we're seeing here.
 
JWTexans said:
Exactly. The front office ruined this team. Not DW4. Not Nuk. Not JJ, who probably wants out as well. Cal and Jack have ruined this. Between trading away Nuk, failure to put a decent supporting cast around Watson, handing out contracts to JAGs like Mercilus and McKinney, keeping OBrien around long past time to go, and very poor communication.... this team has gone from a team on the rise, to a bottom 6 or 7 franchise. And it all could've been avoided.
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Can't argue with that. Hopefully this is a wake up call & they start doing things more better (nobody's perfect).
 
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