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Easterby’s Takeover complete..Watson wants out

Lucky said:
Really. What changed is O'Brien was fired and Easterby tightened his grip on the organization. Someone screwed this franchise over. And it wasn't Watson.
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BoB was on the hot seat before the 2020 season even started. He had to know BoB wasnt long for the gig 1, after he orchestrated 1 of the most lopsided trades ever that was panned by....everyone. And 2, the horrible start to the season.

He/they may view Easterby as the reason for all this, but the true architect of this team’s current state is/was BoB. Salary cap hell, no draft picks...personnel moves..all BoB. Easterby by this point had already cozied up to Cal and when he had his opportunity to “sieze” power as the interim GM, he effectively did nothing.

Fact is, you’re gonna see more of this kind of stuff in the coming years from players. This is only the beginning.
 
Gotta hope for a bidding war now. I'd really like to see him moved before the draft with compensation that includes this years draft picks.
 
CstatTexan said:
Regardless of how you feel, the players in the league have a ton of respect for Deshaun. He’s the kind of QB players make decisions around. They’re all now sitting front row to a dumpster fire organization ruining its biggest asset.
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Agreed and some people don't understand this.

they're worried about small things like Watson being linked to mia khalifa, and not the bigger picture in that the Texans are the biggest joke of a franchise in the league. losing a WR in his prime followed by a QB in his prime all wanting out. not to mention whispers from another great in JJ. No one wants to "be a Texan", and soon no one is going to want to watch or buy anything texans. and if you're a Houston sports fan it's especially bitter considering what's happened to the Rockets and Astros.

been waiting my whole life as a texans fan for a franchise QB. DW4 finally arrives and with DHop, we're set for the next 7 years. But we've come to this.
 
Mr teX said:
Not really. Nuk was traded before he signed his deal..that was the supposed seed of his anger. Easterby had also been here before he signed his extension.

These types of spur of the moment trade requests usually arise out of contentious contract requests..not disputes with FO personnel owners or coach searches. The fact is DW4 served himself first. I think he wanted out beforehand, but he had to get his money 1st. He got his big money extension with the no trade clause which more or less protected him from losing any money if he were to get injured during the course of the season last year and then he orchestrated his departure....like Nuk. And in doing this, he screwed the franchise over.
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Screwing the franchise would have been to play his rookie contract out and leave in FA. By extending with the Texans, at least we have a trade-able asset that will demand a huge return.
 
Lucky said:
O'Brien got a promotion before the season ever started. The 4 straight losses, O'Brien being O'Brien, and Rasputin whispering in Cal's ear, put him on the hot seat.

Any way you turn this, it always comes back to Easterby.
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Eh, no one even paid attention to Easterby until BoB was fired. All of this “Easterby whispering in Cal’s ear” crap is overblown imo. He like a lot of guys I’m sure has Cal’s ear...but make no mistake, the moves that have been made over the last couple of years are BoB’s and Cal’s moves alone. They made them. Not Easterby.
 
Mr teX said:
Eh, no one even paid attention to Easterby until BoB was fired. All of this “Easterby whispering in Cal’s ear” crap is overblown imo. He like a lot of guys I’m sure has Cal’s ear...but make no mistake, the moves that have been made over the last couple of years are BoB’s and Cal’s moves alone. They made them. Not Easterby.
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this is true since Bob wanted gm duties along with hc
 
Mr teX said:
Eh, no one even paid attention to Easterby until BoB was fired. All of this “Easterby whispering in Cal’s ear” crap is overblown imo. He like a lot of guys I’m sure has Cal’s ear...but make no mistake, the moves that have been made over the last couple of years are BoB’s and Cal’s moves alone. They made them. Not Easterby.
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Why are you defending easterby so much with the known things he's done?
 
dream_team said:
Screwing the franchise would have been to play his rookie contract out and leave in FA. By extending with the Texans, at least we have a trade-able asset that will demand a huge return.
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Right, but say he does decide to play out his rookie contract, plays in 2020 and gets hurt. He could potentially loses a substantial amount of money depending on the type of injury he suffers. So in that regard, it was in his best interest to go ahead and sign his deal to lock in his money. So while what you’re saying would’ve been the best way..I don’t think he or his agent wanted to chance him getting injured in 2020 without that extension in place 1st.


Like I said, he served himself 1st...and I ain’t necessarily mad at him about that, but it’s clear by doing that he wasn’t thinking about the franchise...it wasn’t above board imo.
 
Mr teX said:
Eh, no one even paid attention to Easterby until BoB was fired. All of this “Easterby whispering in Cal’s ear” crap is overblown imo. He like a lot of guys I’m sure has Cal’s ear...but make no mistake, the moves that have been made over the last couple of years are BoB’s and Cal’s moves alone. They made them. Not Easterby.
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Overblown or not, it’s causing an exodus of talent. This will trickle down. There is zero way you can spin Easterby being an asset to the team at this point.
 
gwallaia said:
Has POS Cal McNair made any kind of public statement regarding this DW4 fiasco?
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Cal was likely assured by Rasputin that the Culley hire and retaining Kelly would soothe all wounds. Cal is still being played.
Mr teX said:
All of this “Easterby whispering in Cal’s ear” crap is overblown imo.
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I'll take Andre Johnson's opinion over yours. No offense.
 
GuerillaBlack said:
Why are you defending easterby so much with the known things he's done?
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I’m not defending him so much as I’m saying the issues in this organization arise from the decisions of people who had the authority to make them..and for all the ruckus about him, he hasn’t been the guy making the decisions, it’s been BoB and Cal.
 
Lucky said:
Cal was likely assured by Rasputin that the Culley hire and retaining Kelly would soothe all wounds. Cal is still being played.

I'll take Andre Johnson's opinion over yours. No offense.
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So that means you were down with his opinion to bring a broken down Ed Reed here too? AJ’s opinion ain’t flawless bro. Having said that his opinion holds a lot of weight. The players hate Easterby.
 
dream_team said:
To be fair, we don't know what's going on behind the scenes. AJ, who knows what's going on behind the scenes, is telling him to hold his ground.

A lot has changed since he signed that contract.
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Lucky said:
Really. What changed is O'Brien was fired and Easterby tightened his grip on the organization. Someone screwed this franchise over. And it wasn't Watson.
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Exactly. I don't know why people act like time stood still and things didn't change after he signed the contract.
 
CstatTexan said:
Overblown or not, it’s causing an exodus of talent. This will trickle down. There is zero way you can spin Easterby being an asset to the team at this point.
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Not trying to. But if you think his firing is all of a sudden Gonna repair things you’re sadly mistaken. Easterby is just the latest scapegoat.
 
Mr teX said:
Not trying to. But if you think his firing is all of a sudden Gonna repair things you’re sadly mistaken. Easterby is just the latest scapegoat.
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It was a general statement as in no one can justify keeping Easteby at this point because he literally brings nothing to the table. His firing won’t put out this dumpster fire but it also won’t keep adding to it.
 
Earl34 said:
Exactly. I don't know why people act like time stood still and things didn't change after he signed the contract.
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Nothing really did change other than what was already on the horizon before he signed his extension. BoB WAS going to be fired at some point in 2020. We WERE going to have to get another GM at some point.

With all that uncertainty surrounding this franchise, it would behoove him to take a step back and see how that shakes out before you ink a long term deal with the franchise.

But he didn’t do that..and I can see both sides of it, but when we look at it from a pure business standpoint, it’s clear he didn’t give 2 shots about the situation he was putting the Texans in.
 
dream_team said:
To be fair, we don't know what's going on behind the scenes. AJ, who knows what's going on behind the scenes, is telling him to hold his ground.

A lot has changed since he signed that contract.
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But don't you know everyone here commenting was in the room where it happened, the room where it happened, the room where it happened?
 
CstatTexan said:
It was a general statement as in no one can justify keeping Easteby at this point because he literally brings nothing to the table. His firing won’t put out this dumpster fire but it also won’t keep adding to it.
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At the end of the day, the people who want to be here will stay and the people who don’t will leave. People need someone to blame and Using Easterby as the lightening rod fits the Bill. Before him it was BoB..before BoB it was Rick Smith. Doesn’t mean that everyone feels the same way about him as apparently a lot of people currently on Kirby do.
 
If JJ decides to retire, the same group of company men on this forum will find a way to blame him for this organizations failures. They claim to want whats best for the team but are quick turn on any player as long as it deflects blame and responsibility away from the organization.
 
CstatTexan said:
If JJ decides to retire, the same group of company men on this forum will find a way to blame him for this organizations failures. They claim to want whats best for the team but are quick turn on any player as long as it deflects blame and responsibility away from the organization.
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And the same people who are swearing off the team in the “I quit” thread will be back in front of their TV’s watching too. It don’t just flow 1 way bro.
 
CstatTexan said:
If JJ decides to retire, the same group of company men on this forum will find a way to blame him for this organizations failures. They claim to want whats best for the team but are quick turn on any player as long as it deflects blame and responsibility away from the organization.
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The funny thing about the "company men" is that there's no more than 5 of them on the board but they type really fast. These dudes get around.
 
This franchise is going to be trash for years. This is the culmination of a collection of terrible decisions and a display of ineptitude that goes beyond reasonable comprehension. Nobody is going to want to coach or play here due to the current optics. You think our roster is trash now. It is going to get worse before it ever gets better.
 
Mr teX said:
And the same people who are swearing off the team in the “I quit” thread will be back in front of their TV’s watching too. It don’t just flow 1 way bro.
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false, I've watched less Texans games now than ever before despite having more time to do watch. much easier to only care about the players you need on fantasy which will make you money versus giving money away to some quasi-billionaire for putting out a real bad product.
 
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