His choice for GM was interviewed & Cal chose to go in another direction.
Initial reports were that Bieniemy didn't want anything to do with this dumpster fire.
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Should we trade Watson?
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His choice for GM was interviewed & Cal chose to go in another direction.
Initial reports were that Bieniemy didn't want anything to do with this dumpster fire.
Texian
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I see no reason not to believe Ms. Barshop. She has her contacts she trust and she is specifically assigned to the Texans.
"the Texans didn’t initially place interview requests for Eric Bieniemy and Robert Saleh, Watson’s two preferred candidates".
Saleh is now the head coach for the NY Jets. His OC is Mike Lafluer, brother of Matt and Kyle Shanahan's passing coordinator. They're knee deep in WCO, DW4's preference. This bodes well for the Texans.
Where has this been a known thing?
texan279
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That's Watson's restaurant lol. And cheese steak is misspelled lol.
Texian
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In his conversations with Mahomes and his affinity for Bienemy to be his HC. Part of the cultural change he wanted. Why he's so upset and angry Cal rebooted the Patriot Way when he hired Caserio.
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I was simply relaying the facts as they were given to me , specifically that he had two meetings with Cal on potential GM & HC candidates.
Neither of his preferred candidate got the GM job but both were interviewed.
We didn't hear about him being mad before the GM hire , he wasn't mad about the state of the franchise until the Caserio hiring.
They did interview Khan.
Texans interview Steelers’ Omar Khan for general manager (usatoday.com)
CloakNNNdagger
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The creator of the poster should learn to spell before widely distributing his support.
TheMatrix31
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Yeah he's a little twatbag perfect for 2021 society. Never thought he'd be like this. Ever. Never gave off that impression to me. Ever.
**** him.
badboy
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Interesting connection. Thanks for posting!
Speaking of Saleh, can anyone think of any logical reason that they didn't interview Saleh? So, when they had the opportunity, the Texans didn't even bother interviewing two of the top candidates on everyone's HC list?
That's cool, bro. I was just talking about the Mortensen tweets..
When you put the pieces together .... the original tweet is spot on.
Considering that they got arguably a more qualified individual than either of the guys Watson wanted , what does he have to complain about aside from .... the elephant in the room.
Yet per Schef and Mortensen’s reporting Watson is interested in going to Miami and playing for Brian Flores, an ex Patriot.......
If you consider Caserio to absolutely be a better qualified individual than Khan.. and not everyone would do so.
Even barring that the same guy tweeted both things, pretty much canceling one another out. Barring also any biases of course.
Funny thing is we don't know what #4 wants. We assume it's firing Easterby, because of the media. Because of Andre's tweet (yes I believe it's about Easterby based on Andre's tweet)
But we really don't know. The last thing we "heard" Watson says Cal can't fix "it" without firing himself.
So how are we supposed to get behind that?
OptimisticTexan
2024 / Rebuilding Block 4 After Playoffs / Texans
About 15 minutes b/c there has to be a plan (in my mind) if Watson does push himself out of Houston.
TheMatrix31
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Would have been a great hire. But alas we jerk off to Patriots.
Depends on if you think Tua will get better and stay healthy. His rookie yr actually wasnt that bad historically. It just didn't come close to measuring up to Herbert's or Burrow before injury rookie yrs.
For the record I would pass on making Tua part of any trade with Miami. Not only did I think he was overrated coming out of college but he's injury prone and Doc said that hip injury is likely to re-occur.
I think we know why
Not Texans Worthy
For the record Saleh was #1 on my list of potential hires. The Jets got a good one.
maverick512000
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Think it was more to do with timing.
Sources around league explain how the Jets landed on hiring Robert Saleh
There were some familiar faces among the possibilities as Jets GM Joe Douglas began his first coaching search. He had friendships with some NFL assistants. He knew some college coaches well. A coach with whom he won a Super Bowl would eventually become available, too.
We hired Caserio on the 5th and at that point the HC interviews were basically reset. Jets interviewed Saleh on the 8th and 6 days later they were hiring him.
If the Texans are to be believed Caserio had to return for a funereal right after being hired so he got a little bit of a late start.
Like I said bad timing all around but I would rather miss out on Saleh then have another case of the GM not hiring the HC.
Be prepared to welcome Dabol as the next Texans HC.
I don't think Watson would like that.
Texian
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Scuttlebutt out of the locker room is players are not happy with Tua, doesn't have the arm strength and doesn't measure up to other QBs in the division. Would've rather had Fitz and felt they won games in spite of Tua. Players know, listen to the players.
I'm not at all arguing that Caserio is absolutely more qualified than Khan. I'm simply stating that they are equally good candidates. He really had nothing to gripe about with either one of them - They'd have both been great choices.
Just ask yourself who else has reported Watson having two meetings with Cal .... Not a single reporter / tweeter was ahead of me on this.
Bama hype. How many 1st round picks surrounded Tua in college? Some team is about to make the same mistake with Mac Jones.
I actually like Jones better than Tua.
Better arm and healthier. I just dont get why Tua was supposedly a generational prospect and Jones is a 2nd rder. They're basically the same guy.
Perhaps he didn't like the 'more of the same' Easterby connection.
Especially with an agreed upon equally valid candidate sitting there.
maverick512000
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It also depends on what Cal wanted in a GM. I would argue Khan looks to be the better numbers guy while Caserio seems to be the better personal guy. It’s like comparing F1 drivers to NASCAR drivers. Both are great drivers and can drive fast but it’s different styles and different ways of thinking.
Gaine was a pretty good numbers guy to the point of being cheap. OB was a bad numbers guy to the point of being an ATM machine. Maybe Cal was wanting to see what a personal guy could do and then just hire a straight up bean counter for numbers.
Just spit balling here.
bigmck
Rookie
"Sources Close to the Texans"...................Is that Cal's next door neighbor?
I guess the elephant in the room is Jack Easterby? I haven't read any reports of a relationship between Khan and Easterby.
Jadmakaveli
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Perhaps the owner gets to decide who he wants to employee.
He's exactly this guy.
Prime example of a butt hurt character right here. Straightish.
Not butthurt at all.
Just gotta remember to takeout the trash moment.
Perhaps employee isn't a verb..
Perhaps it is.
Awww..
It isn't though..
It isn't though..
Norg
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i was thinking maybe nicky think 2021 season is a wash anyways with watson or without watson
they way its looking watson wont re sign anyways he will be gone in 3 to 4 years anyways
so bottom line trade with the jets try and get (4) 1st rounders and then trade back and try and get more chips for 2022 draft. so in the 22 drafts we will have soooo many 1st and 2nd picks to rebuild this team in 2 years
they way its looking watson wont re sign anyways he will be gone in 3 to 4 years anyways
so bottom line trade with the jets try and get (4) 1st rounders and then trade back and try and get more chips for 2022 draft. so in the 22 drafts we will have soooo many 1st and 2nd picks to rebuild this team in 2 years
Jadmakaveli
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You are one of those too
. Y’all can say whatever dumba** takes y’all got but need to stop there, not about to sit up here and character assassinate Deshaun.
wildroot
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Stand with DW4 for what?
That we trade him out of here?
That we support him in having a say in who the new HC is?
Or support him that he didn't have a say in the GM hire?
To just blanket support him for him wanting a say in the HC and/or trading him...I can't get behind that.
Problem with him having a say in the GM and HC hire, is it sets us up for bad feelings if we don't hire his choice, that's not going to work.
Now I don't see as much a problem with him being consulted or sitting in on the interview for the OC as that's who he'll be working with.
Nick needs to have that conversation with him...or any conversation with him for that matter. I don't know what the hold up is.
Cal shoulda never told him he'd be consulted on any hire...guess it'd be difficult to take that back now.
maverick512000
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You are one of those too
He's not showing great character though, he just signed a huge, huge contract and now he's pulling this? Even if it is mostly the media he could stop it with one tweet or if he really has an issue take it to the front office and try and work it out. Instead he is doing these cryptic messages and letting this crap go on. He's acting like a kid throwing a tantrum rather than the leader he claimed to want to be.
maverick512000
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Wanted to address these two points, one how do we know its the Texans holding things up? From outside looking in its sounding like Watson isn't responding to their communications so how can they have a sit down with him if he won't sit down?
I agree with you Cal shouldn't have said that but even then consulted doesn't mean "You pick who you want and thats who we'll hire." Cal consulted with a lot of people including hiring a group for it and he didn't take any of their advice either.
Real tantrum right there..
KoolAid Sipper
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Of course we post our "opinions" here and while I agree with your post, the underlined I think is a product of our media led environment today. We take every piece of information from media platforms or alleged sources, form some sort of opinion and run with it whether it's wrong or right. Again I agree, if he is the leader of the team that he claims to be, then be a leader and face the issue at hand person to person with those you have an issue with. I wonder who is currently advising DW, his agent, mama or friends. And for the life of me, what could he bring to the table regarding the qualifications to recommend a GM, even if Cal asked.
wildroot
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Clearly there is a lot of speculation as no one knows a whole lot.
badboy
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The view of Houston being poop kicker town has only been increased by what has happened with the Rockets and Texans past few months.
Well we can all go Boot Scootin Boogie!