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Why? He wrote the book on not giving a **** about the fans.Let’s see if Rootes is with the team in a couple of months
The “reports” say he tried to resign because he’s not happy about the direction the club is heading.Why? He wrote the book on not giving a **** about the fans.
The “reports” say he tried to resign because he’s not happy about the direction the club is heading.
if he’s gone soon, we’llknow there was some truth to the “reports”
Exactly....b/c it was going swimmingly in the 20 years before with him helping to direct things.
Well, only a few marketing companies are as successful as the Texans have been the last 20 years.
If Rootes is out this a confirmation for me that Kirby Dr. and Reliant Stadium are well on their way to becoming a version of Scott Pioli's gestapo and gulag in KC. Cal is already talking about building a wall around the compound.The “reports” say he tried to resign because he’s not happy about the direction the club is heading.
if he’s gone soon, we’llknow there was some truth to the “reports”
If Rootes is out this a confirmation for me that Kirby Dr. and Reliant Stadium are well on their way to becoming a version of Scott Pioli's gestapo and gulag in KC. Cal is already talking about building a wall around the compound.
If they’re not on team Easterby, they needs to go.If Rootes is out this a confirmation for me that Kirby Dr. and Reliant Stadium are well on their way to becoming a version of Scott Pioli's gestapo and gulag in KC. Cal is already talking about building a wall around the compound.
Depends on how he leaves? Many argue that Texans are one of the most successful sports franchises. Rootes has been President of that and helped build that. My understanding is Rootes is not happy with new direction of the company and moving away from the the one thing that has been a true real success for the Texans. I'm of the opinion an NFL franchise can be both a successful marketing company and a successful football team. To answer your question, if the Texans are becoming KC Pioli 2.0 and Rootes is leaving because of that, then it is a bad thing.For so long fans have complained about how the Texans have operated more like a marketing co. than a football team. Rootes has been at the heart of that and he has certainly had his time to change that image; he has neglected to do so.
So my question to you is Would it be so bad if Rootes left?
Depends on how he leaves? Many argue that Texans are one of the most successful sports franchises. Rootes has been President of that and helped build that. My understanding is Rootes is not happy with new direction of the company and moving away from the the one thing that has been a success for the Texans. I'm of the opinion an NFL franchise can be both a successful marketing company and a successful football team.
Successful in whose eyes though? Certainly not in the fans’ which is who you should be trying to curry favor with.....not the Forbes magazine.
Name one.Many argue that Texans are one of the most successful sports franchises.
They are more successful than smaller markets. Not as successful as larger or equal markets. What would that tell you?Why? Fans keep putting their money down which is what makes you successful in Forbes’s eyes. Less than 20 years old and already valued greater than decades old teams. Yeah sorry but I have to call that successful.
Why? Fans keep putting their money down which is what makes you successful in Forbes’s eyes. Less than 20 years old and already valued greater than decades old teams. Yeah sorry but I have to call that successful.
Name one.
They are more successful than smaller markets. Not as successful as larger or equal markets. What would that tell you?
$ = Successful; W and Ls not so much. One thing that has been consistent with the McNair Ownership, fans can count on with some high degree of regularity, a BIG bite of a crap sandwich. No reason for that to change. In fact with Cal now in charge you can expect a bigger bite of that crap sandwich on a much more frequent basis.Successful in whose eyes though? Certainly not in the fans’ which is who you should be trying to curry favor with.....not the Forbes magazine.
So that should tell you that market size is the first criteria for franchise value. If the Texans had a smaller market, they would be worth less. The Texans organization has done nothing special to enhance the value.Considering Houston is the 4th largest city it number of equal or larger markets is small.
So that should tell you that market size is the first criteria for franchise value. If the Texans had a smaller market, they would be worth less. The Texans organization has done nothing special to enhance the value.
Depends on how he leaves? Many argue that Texans are one of the most successful sports franchises. Rootes has been President of that and helped build that. My understanding is Rootes is not happy with new direction of the company and moving away from the the one thing that has been a true real success for the Texans. I'm of the opinion an NFL franchise can be both a successful marketing company and a successful football team. To answer your question, if the Texans are becoming KC Pioli 2.0 and Rootes is leaving because of that, then it is a bad thing.
$ = Successful; W and Ls not so much. One thing that has been consistent with the McNair Ownership, fans can count on with some high degree of regularity, a BIG bite of a crap sandwich. No reason for that to change. In fact with Cal now in charge you can expect a bigger bite of that crap sandwich on a much more frequent basis.
For so long fans have complained about how the Texans have operated more like a marketing co. than a football team. Rootes has been at the heart of that and he has certainly had his time to change that image; he has neglected to do so.
So my question to you is Would it be so bad if Rootes left?
Agreed but giving that they haven’t come close to the success of even other Houston teams like the Astros and a Rockets in terms of success it’s still impressive how much they have insured Houston is a football city.
A friend of Rootes told me he's a great guy.
Of course the guy that told me that is a narcissistic prick who would fvck his family out of every dollar he could if they would let him.
So that should tell you that market size is the first criteria for franchise value. If the Texans had a smaller market, they would be worth less. The Texans organization has done nothing special to enhance the value.
Houston is and always has been a football town
The McNair's have greatly profited off of that love. The smartest thing Bob McNair did was not only allow tailgaiting but turn the Houston Texans tailgating experience into an almost college gameday experience. Unlike Bud who thought no tailgaiting meant fans would spend more on concessions.
Hoping and Wishful Thinking at best. Cal has shown one thing, he has the propensity to make things worse. When Patriots South 5.0 completely blows up, what does Cal do then?And Cal might be trying to change this dynamic.
A friend of Rootes told me he's a great guy.
Of course the guy that told me that is a narcissistic prick who would fvck his family out of every dollar he could if they would let him.
This really pisses me off. Khan made the most sense as a hire. His analytics knowledge would help offset the missing draft picks (IMO) and he would provide the culture change that our star athlete is asking for.Report: Texans were poised to hire Omar Khan as G.M.
Posted by Mike Florio on January 10, 2021, 1:44 PM EST
A year after the Texans were making headlines during the first week of the playoffs because they were, you know, playing, they’re making even more headlines this year by, you know, not playing.
The hiring of Nick Caserio to be the team’s new General Manager lit the fuse on a cherry bomb of dysfunction for the Texans, reinforcing the perception/reality that executive V.P. of football operations Jack Easterby is Littlefinger (if you’re a GOT fan) or Gríma Wormtongue (if LOTR is your bag).
The Texans paid Korn Ferry somewhere between $100,000 and $1 million (word is that it was $600,000) to line up finalists for the job. Mike Garafolo of NFL Media reported that the five selected by Korn Ferry were Texans director of player personnel Matt Bazirgan, Seahawks V.P. of player personnel Trent Kirchner, Steelers V.P. of football and business administration Omar Khan, Louis Riddick, and Ravens director of football research Scott Cohen.
Adam Schefter of ESPN reports that Khan would have gotten the job, if the Texans hadn’t unexpectedly gone off the board to hire Caserio. (Schefter also mentions that his ESPN colleague Louis Riddick was the next choice after Khan, possibly for internal peacekeeping purposes.)
Schefter adds that “multiple people” within the organization, including quarterback Deshaun Watson, were upset by the decision to ignore Korn Ferry’s work and to hire Caserio. Team president Jamey Rootes, though not mentioned by name in Schefter’s story, also is believed to be extremely upset that the work done by Korn Ferry, with Rootes’ involvement, was thrown overboard. Some believe that it’s just a matter of time before Rootes leaves the Texans; at least one person believes that Rootes already has tried to resign, but that Rootes was persuaded to wait in order to avoid further reinforcement of the perception/reality of disarray within the franchise.
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You are friends with Easterby?
This really pisses me off. Khan made the most sense as a hire. His analytics knowledge would help offset the missing draft picks (IMO) and he would provide the culture change that our star athlete is asking for.
This is probably the 2nd dumbest move in the history of the franchise....Assterby's fingerprints all over it. AGAIN
Not only is it bad business to rescind a job offer during negotiations, but it's another shining example of how stupid Tommy Boy actually is.
I gotta disagree here .... Caserio's resume far exceeds that of Omar Khan and any of the others that they were considering.
I thought he didAfter the past week or two I think the absolute best move Cal could do for the team and himself is hire a president of football operations.
I thought he did
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My thing is I'm a believer in analytics so I prefer Khan. I think that's the best way to deal with limited cap space. Caserio sounds like a really good football guy. I'm just not sure how well the "Patriots Way" is going to play here anymore.I gotta disagree here .... Caserio's resume far exceeds that of Omar Khan and any of the others that they were considering.
Isn't everybody?Mr. White apparently is a Pats hater.
Closer than you think. Khan started working in the NFL in 1997 in the Saints Front Office. Caserio started in the NE Front Office in 2001. The real difference is that NC has coaching and scouting experience.I would love to see Caserio's resume compared to Khan's. I'm pretty sure their resumes speak loudly for themselves.
That is VERY debatable. Khan has been around for more years and has held more front office roles including for two different franchises. He has been through regime changes, something Caserio has not been through.I gotta disagree here .... Caserio's resume far exceeds that of Omar Khan and any of the others that they were considering.
That is VERY debatable. Khan has been around for more years and has held more front office roles including for two different franchises. He has been through regime changes, something Caserio has not been through.
I am not trying to tear down Caserio, because he does have a solid resume, but Khan is equal to him in those regards.
He has worked as a scout, football operations coordinator and player personnel, director of football operations, vice president of business and football operations. His resume is one of the best.I’d prefer my GM have a good balance between the football side and the FO side. Even RS had this as he started out as a scout in Denver. I have not seen Khan’s resume, but from your description, it sounds like he’s more of a corporate board room guy and rarely if ever touched on the football side. This disconnect is what DW4 is bitching about RIGHT NOW. And if what I’m asserting about Khan is the case, no wonder why Rootes was so eager to offer him the gig; he’s Rootes type of guy for the marketing team and it also explains why he was probably pissed when Cal pivoted away from him.
Caserio seems to have a good balance of both and is the much better hire imo.
I would agree insomuch as it was building around Tom Brady. Whether we’re talking about the Patriots, Steelers, or 49ers, isn’t that the case?I'm really just a guy that's pretty tired of the Patriots Way. It's looking pretty obvious that it was really the "Brady Way" and I'm not seeing him interviewing for GM positions.
Why? Caserio was surrounded by one coach and one QB his entire time there.I would agree insomuch as it was building around Tom Brady. Whether we’re talking about the Patriots, Steelers, or 49ers, isn’t that the case?
So to me, the question is do I think Caserio can build around Watson to deliver a Championship?
Coach & all. I think he can judging by the way they did things in New England. The way they worked the draft, FA, roster, contracts.
I’m not saying Khan couldn’t, I just feel more comfortable with Caserio.
He has worked as a scout, football operations coordinator and player personnel, director of football operations, vice president of business and football operations. His resume is one of the best.
Again, he has been through 2 winning head coaches, he has been apart of that transition, something Caserio never has. Khan's resume is as impressive as anybodys.
I would agree insomuch as it was building around Tom Brady. Whether we’re talking about the Patriots, Steelers, or 49ers, isn’t that the case?
So to me, the question is do I think Caserio can build around Watson to deliver a Championship?
Coach & all. I think he can judging by the way they did things in New England. The way they worked the draft, FA, roster, contracts.
I’m not saying Khan couldn’t, I just feel more comfortable with Caserio.
Just because the owner is the same doesn't mean the team is run the same on a day to day basis. Having new leaders in charge changes the dynamic, and Khan was part of creating the new change when they went to Tomlin.I only see that he worked as a scouting INTERN for NO.....not as a scout on his own.
regardless, I still don’t necessarily believe b/c he’s been thru several regime changes that is a plus for him. It was still with the same organization and we know the buck stopped with Rooney...stable organizations tend to keep the same people around and Caserio worked within a stable organization..... the same as Khan did. You can’t penalize Caserio for that and tout it as a plus for Khan.
Khan was one of my favorites as well, but I am "ok" with NC. I am cautiously optimistic about him.Khan was my guy but ok with NC. I think NC will find more talent in UDFA and lower rounds, while Khan looked really good on overall team makeup and cap savvy/negotiations. Let's all agree they are both two huge upgrades and given time I think either would make a good impact