SnakeEyes
Under NRG
It's been shown that due to being a "problem" and an issue. Easterby suggest that Hopkins be traded to Cal. And look what happened, he was. And yes you can find the proof in many different locations.
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It's been shown that due to being a "problem" and an issue. Easterby suggest that Hopkins be traded to Cal. And look what happened, he was. And yes you can find the proof in many different locations.
All false & unsubstantiated.
SnakeEyes
Under NRG
No, in an article Easterby is quoted he thought Hopkins was not a good fit for the team. So, if he was quoted saying it, it shows that he was not a fan.
Say what you want. But we all know Easterby is the top guy here right under Cal. And we know that a new GM has a task in the first few weeks. What task? Keep or get rid of Easterby. Yes that's fact, Google the interview that Cal addresses it. BUT in Houston, nothing can be easy. That's why Easterby is part of who picks the new GM... Ahhh, let me know if you think he is going to pick anyone who wants to potentially fire him.
wildroot
Rookie
A good, no...just a marginal GM would have sat down with Hopkins and worked it out with him. Throw him a bone per say...
DB,
Jeff Luhnow says hi!
Jeff Luhnow says hi!
Quoted for truth
badboy
Hall of Fame
If....it were up to the GM. Only thing that makes sense to me, the decision was made at the very top. If Obrien did what he was told as I believe, the trade is better understood. I wonder if now that he is gone at some point Bill will clarify this matter.
amazing80
Hall of Fame
What article?
maverick512000
Hall of Fame
Twice now you have either ignored or missed that I did post an article supporting my points so please allow me to post it again.
Why Jack Easterby won't be GM but is 'incredibly valuable' to Texans
Easterby's unique leadership skills have made him a trusted confidant wherever he has gone. Now, he's facing another challenge in a career that has been full of them.
I even admitted that it is the opposite of the SI one and is basically a fluff piece but seeing as apparently the only thing that matters is posting something there it is.
Toting the company line.
Red herring.
Tell me, how do you determine to believe the words coming out of Cal's mouth & when not?
Easterby was not the GM
maverick512000
Hall of Fame
You know anyone reading these forums over the last several years would be convinced the Texans FO is a true modern day game of thrones.
In the beginning there was a power play between the long standing GM and the new, fresh HC who from his first day was handed the keys to the kingdom and with that power over threw the GM. Then later a new GM was brought in and this person was thought to be just a boot licker for the power hungry HC who was the true puppet master. The new GM though was a man of moral and fiscal principle and he alone stood up to the tyrant and as a result was executed, I mean fired, so that the megalomaniac of a HC could finally achieve his dream of ultimate power even though he was suppose to have already achieved it by having his lackey made GM.
The new absolute ruler then went on a campaign of terror removing anyone that could challenge his power and rewarding the loyalist players. In an effort to further tighten his grip the new HC/GM brought in a priest from the old country but in this he made his fatal error. For you see the priest himself sought power and he found and awoken the ancient power known only as "Owner's decision" and with this threw down the tyrant when he was at his weakest. However, absolute power corrupts absolutely and it wasn't long before the priest himself had assumed the mantle of ruler. The new dark priest though was cunning and sought to stay in the shadows so as to not draw the gaze of the masses to his power. Fortunately the light of truth has been shined on his dark throne and he has been forced to begin a campaign of lies and mistruth in an effort to conceal his evil plans. Now the city cries out for a savior and the return of a true GM and HC to bring justice, hope and a championship to a land long lacking in all three.
Somebody call the networks I think we've got a winner here.
In the beginning there was a power play between the long standing GM and the new, fresh HC who from his first day was handed the keys to the kingdom and with that power over threw the GM. Then later a new GM was brought in and this person was thought to be just a boot licker for the power hungry HC who was the true puppet master. The new GM though was a man of moral and fiscal principle and he alone stood up to the tyrant and as a result was executed, I mean fired, so that the megalomaniac of a HC could finally achieve his dream of ultimate power even though he was suppose to have already achieved it by having his lackey made GM.
The new absolute ruler then went on a campaign of terror removing anyone that could challenge his power and rewarding the loyalist players. In an effort to further tighten his grip the new HC/GM brought in a priest from the old country but in this he made his fatal error. For you see the priest himself sought power and he found and awoken the ancient power known only as "Owner's decision" and with this threw down the tyrant when he was at his weakest. However, absolute power corrupts absolutely and it wasn't long before the priest himself had assumed the mantle of ruler. The new dark priest though was cunning and sought to stay in the shadows so as to not draw the gaze of the masses to his power. Fortunately the light of truth has been shined on his dark throne and he has been forced to begin a campaign of lies and mistruth in an effort to conceal his evil plans. Now the city cries out for a savior and the return of a true GM and HC to bring justice, hope and a championship to a land long lacking in all three.
Somebody call the networks I think we've got a winner here.
banned1976
sleeper mode
As DB, I too believe the Hopkins trade was a move propelled by something off the field. And I don’t believe it was an Easterby driven vehicle to jettison a personality he didn’t mesh with, it was something else. That said...
When a team goes this sideways, it’s time for a complete turnover of the football personnel people. I believe Easterby has had his fingerprints on at least some of the terrible decisions over the last 18 months or so. So I’d prefer him having no say in who the next GM will be.
When a team goes this sideways, it’s time for a complete turnover of the football personnel people. I believe Easterby has had his fingerprints on at least some of the terrible decisions over the last 18 months or so. So I’d prefer him having no say in who the next GM will be.
So bad things have been said about Easterby. And good things have been said about Easterby. My question: Is this organization better with Jack Easterby in it?Why Jack Easterby won't be GM but is 'incredibly valuable' to Texans
Easterby's unique leadership skills have made him a trusted confidant wherever he has gone. Now, he's facing another challenge in a career that has been full of them.www.espn.com
I even admitted that it is the opposite of the SI one and is basically a fluff piece but seeing as apparently the only thing that matters is posting something there it is.
Whatever magic dust Easterby used in New England to help build a championship team into a championship team (?) didn't arrive in Houston with his baggage.
GM? Gone.
Cap guy? Gone.
Best player on the team? Gone.
Head Coach? Gone
PR gal? Gone.
Cap space? Gone.
Looks more like Easterby's a demolition expert than a wiz at team building. Hey, maybe the guy really helped the Pats. OK. He hasn't helped in Houston. I've seen enough.
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maverick512000
Hall of Fame
Oh I never said Easterby was making the team better but this whole conspiracy theory people have about the Texans that they are all in a massive power play is silly. People keep acting like if we get rid of person X then that will make the Texans better but they get rid of person X, whomever that maybe at the time, and the Texans are still the Texans. The issues we are seeing predate Easterby, they predated OB, they predated Gaine and they even predated RS. I am hoping that the major change in ownership will be the real thing that pushes the Texans over the hump because everything else has just been a result of that. The jury is still out but Cal at least is talking the talk so far.
I agree for the most part. But I'd hate for someone to make decisions concerning me with only a belief of my involvement.
I see Cal is doing things differently than his dad & so far it looks pretty bad. But we're also in the middle of it, on the outside looking in so we have no idea what is really going on.
I'm not saying to give Cal the benefit of the doubt, or even wait & see. I just think it's unfair to lay blame based on supposition & ego driven agendas.
I'm not going to call a man a snake that I've never met & can't trust the sources of people reporting on him.
Mangler
Toro de España
O’Brien’s minions are really trying to rewrite history, lol. Nobody, and I mean NOBODY will ever forget that HE was both GM and HC when Hopkins was shipped to the Cardinals for peanuts.
I really enjoyed Aqib Talib going in on that useless P.O.S live on national television during the Cardinals-Eagles game for trading away the best WR in the game!
Texans interview Matt Bazirgan for G.M. vacancy
The Texans announced Tuesday they interviewed Matt Bazirgan for their General Manager vacancy.
profootballtalk.nbcsports.com
If this guy is deserving of an interview, why isn’t he interim GM?Texans interview Matt Bazirgan for G.M. vacancy
The Texans announced Tuesday they interviewed Matt Bazirgan for their General Manager vacancy.
badboy
Hall of Fame
Hey stop it right there! Quit asking Logical questions! Are you trying to confuse us?
Texian
Hall of Fame
It's the Texans.
maverick512000
Hall of Fame
Who's trying to rewrite history and about what? Looked to me that @wildroot just made a mistake not that he is an "O'Brien minion trying to rewrite history". I swear I don't get why people around here throw things like that out when literally EVERY member that has been here for any amount of time has said that OB and even Easterby need to go.
maverick512000
Hall of Fame
My guess is he submitted his resume and Texans gave him an interview just to say they gave him a shot. It's very common in companies to give everyone that submitted a resume at least an interview even if you know there is zero chance of them being hired.
If he's hired this would be such a Texans/McNair type move.
If who's hired?
Bazirgan.
LOL! I don't think that guy can be marketed. Might as well promote Kelly as the HC.
SnakeEyes
Under NRG
You mean which article. Google it, it's not my job to link everything I read a few months ago. When you are on this board then you have net and can Google "Easterby involved in Hopkins trade" and the read multiple articles on the topic. It has also been on NFL Network and some NFL shows on ESPN. Just like the odd fact Easterby is on the committee to hire a GM. The GM has the option to keep or fire Easterby?! So, a guy who he hires can can him. I would think he would not go after a candidate who he is not 100% sure is keeping him.
SnakeEyes
Under NRG
Indeed.... But we had Easterby in Cals ear saying "get rid of him, he is a problem". And Cal did
Problem with this line of thinking is that it presumes the article exists. And perhaps this one does, I honestly don't know.
But just for the sake of being on the same page let's say someone makes a claim about an article that doesn't actually exist - and unfortunately this is in fact something some folks will try, not necessarily saying you're doing so though - and they then tell someone else they're debating/conversing with to go and find it themselves.. well now that person is actively trying to prove a negative, which is obviously a giant waste of time.
Anyone making an assertion has the burden of proof on them. This is common sense.
amazing80
Hall of Fame
Spoken like someone who is talking BS and has no proof of this imaginary article.
In his Texans' bio, it states that Easterby "helped re-shape the Texans roster prior to the 2019 season." Shouldn't we assume that remained the case in the 2020 season? So yeah, Easterby was involved in the Hopkins trade.
Sports Illustrated said Easterby pushed for the Hopkins trade.
Rich Schmidt
Myopicone
Watching DW4 develop this year as a real scan the field QB, I think missing Nuk was good for his development. It made him a better QB and now MAYBE he can use good not great receivers to make up for his cap hit like Green Bay does. That being said, if you do trade Nuk, get the right value. So concept may have actually been ok, execution was "Texans Worthy"
dream_team
Hall of Fame
Fair point, but what does it cost to interview a guy? Nothing. I can think of several reasons why it's good to interview him, none being to actually hire him.
My question is more to the why isn’t he interim GM than why are we interviewing him. As opposed to our current acting GM.
I’ve been of the opinion that Easterby is not our Wormtongue. But now I’m not so sure.
dream_team
Hall of Fame
Fair question. Have no clue to the answer.
One troubling aspect of Easterby's tenure with the Texans is how many false statements have been on his bio on the Texans site. They have changed it multiple times when someone has called them on it.
Obviously someone is trying to inflate Easterby's qualifications & until proven otherwise the logical suspect is Easterby himself.
If he is truly qualified why the smoke screen?
Obviously someone is trying to inflate Easterby's qualifications & until proven otherwise the logical suspect is Easterby himself.
If he is truly qualified why the smoke screen?
Speedy
Former Yeller Dweller
Linking an article let's people know exactly what it is you're reading and thus talking about. This isn't Google. It's a ******* message board where things are talked about and ideas are exchanged. It's not on the reader to follow up on something you claim. You claim it, provide the backing to let people know what it is you're reading, then a legitimate discussion can take place. If you don't, then don't get your panties all wadded because somebody asks you for a ******* link. Message boards have been around a long time. It's really pretty simple.
badboy
Hall of Fame
Today on radio 610 described as courtesy interview.
badboy
Hall of Fame
I don't believe in jinx or luck but...please do not go any further with Kelly as anything after this season.
badboy
Hall of Fame
On this topic for me, it is the credibility of the poster over the time on MB. I often read up to 30 articles, tweets, pod casts, Etc but may have no need to refer to it for days. Trying to find it again especially tweets often deleted is torture.
He’s saying he’s posted multiple articles before. He’s not going to post links because we didn’t read it the first time.
But those guys don’t know any better than you or I.
I'm not familiar with what Easterby said about this. But I do know that the website was changed each time one of the statements was challenged. Unless he is trying to say that his resume & the website were 2 different things
If that is the case I guess we are expected to believe that Easterby had no idea what was on the official website. That he was shocked & surprised with all the exaggerations of his past accomplishments.
It kind of makes me wonder why they were removed one at a time as they were questioned instead of all at once when he reviewed the bio after the first incident.
Credibility can certainly help, and often does. But we're clearly referring to instances where that credibility isn't as established and the topic is being actively contested rather than merely chatted about.
And in the usually pretty rare case I can't present the evidence of my assertion then I just won't exhibit that particular example, or at least not to the degree that it should warrant some reasonable bit of backing.
Of course it's not a hard and fast rule that one absolutely must provide a source material. But likewise no one is under any obligation to whatsoever take seriously claims pulled from thin air. It's a shame we live in a fake news world, and conjecture ultimately doesn't do a whole heck of a lot for healthy discourse anyway.
Might be a good coach, who knows? He’s doing a decently fine job considering. I’m not saying he should stay, or that he should be our OC.
But we’re likely to get an OC next season who’s never been an OC before.
If we get an established play caller like Daboll then an experienced OC like Kelly wouldn’t be a bad idea. Might get us where we want to be faster.
SnakeEyes
Under NRG
I have posted a link more than once..., and anyone who is not aware of the situation is living in a cave or something.
SnakeEyes
Under NRG
Exactly, we follow the team and read pretty much whatever we see. And then people freak out if you say something without a link. I assume everyone has read about the odd changes on things like the main team page, tweets about Easterby and more. I mean we all know something is not right and being kept secret by the FO. They said they changed his resume, but stated the wrong date. Players who are talking are only former players. That is unless they are speaking with no mention of a name. Because they don't want to get into any issues. I have counted I think 4 mentioned current players who (unnamed) feel they are being followed and other things. I guess it's down to how much you trust Easterby. Seeing some members are very fast to say he never did "X" and "Y". Yet it was in the news from credible sources 48hrs before. Often times it is altered, changed or removed.