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Welcome to Houston Jack Easterby

I don't see the parallels between the 2 situations. But...okay.

Mr teX said:
Easterby just has the unfortunate luck of having his aired publicly by people to chicken **** to even put their name on their statements so that his boss can fire him.....**** is hella weak...& soft I might add.
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Do we know for certain that Easterby hasn't gone to the media as an unnamed source? Backstabbing Hopkins, Gaine, or O'Brien? No, we don't. Do you really believe Easterby has never been part of a "character assassination"? Live by the sword, die by the sword.
 
Lucky said:
I don't see the parallels between the 2 situations. But...okay.


Do we know for certain that Easterby hasn't gone to the media as an unnamed source? Backstabbing Hopkins, Gaine, or O'Brien? No, we don't. Do you really believe Easterby has never been part of a "character assassination"? Live by the sword, die by the sword.
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Lol, if u don’t see it, then you’re not trying to...

& to answer your questions no we don’t... and it depends on what you consider a character assassination. Stating something internally to your boss that may or may not be true and letting your boss make the call is 1 thing, airing out publically that you think these same things and having people that you don’t even know and never spoken to passing judgement on you is quite another.....which is even more reason why the article is a joke. It goes out of its way to say that he “pushed” for the Nuk trade and tries to use innuendo to say “See!” but neglects to mention BoB’s role in it other than “oh yeah, BoB deserves some criticism too”....as if it wasn’t known that BoB had a MAJOR problem with Nuk......for a while too. Problems Aaron Wilson gave some pretty explicit details on & confirmed during the 2 Adams show yesterday evening. So if Easterby “pushed” for the trade, it was in effect the equivalent of him breathing in BoB’s direction.

Wilson also claims to know most of everyone who contributed to the story based on what was said and his sources inside & outside the org. And while he says it doesn’t mean any of it isn’t true, which is my stance, he also says the problems with it are that there’s clearly a slant placed on it against Easterby for the same reasons I and many others have stated in here; Unnamed sources and that the article intentionally misleads readers into thinking certain things.

https://www.spreaker.com/episode/42442373


The guy also has no track record of being accused of this kind of stuff anywhere he’s been in the NFL & some of the organization’s highest profile people from the past and currently have come out & spoken highly of the dude. Aside from that, SI spent months on this piece..MONTHS. & this is all you come up with? Innuendo from unnamed sources?

I just think it’s shitty and however it ends, it has had its intended effects. Whether it has its intended outcome is yet to be seen.
 
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Lucky said:
Has he said he doesn't? Did he refuse the job when Cal offered it?
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Oh come on! That's silly and you know it Lucky. Few here would refuse their employer asking them to temporarily step into a role as McNair asked Easterby. McNair has stated E will not be GM nor RAC head coach. I am willing to wait and see what happens rather than just assume based on my personal feelings about Texans history.
 
Mr teX said:
Early in my career, I was the manager for a team responsible for administering life-saving therapies for heart failure patients. We had to be run and available 24 hours a day, 7 days a week rain, sleet or snow. The job was a promotion from within so when I took over, everyone on the team I’d been working alongside with for a number of years prior. When I took over though, I had some ideas about how I wanted to change things and while they weren’t what you would call radical, they were very different from how our previous managers had done them. In trying to implement these changes, I encountered resistance and in some instances outright insubordination and sabotage, to where I had to write up a few people...some of which were my best guys.

In the midst of all this a neighboring competitor was developing a similar team as ours to help with their heart failure patients and more than a few of my guys were effectively poached to go there by other already gone or outgoing staff. Finding myself in a pinch with trying to keep enough staff to keep my own service going, I found myself having to approach a few of those who had already put in their notices and effectively relieved them of their duties immediately. Why? B/c as long as they were there, I could not hire anyone else to replace them; HR, payroll thing & we had limited positions.

A found out some time later a few of those people thought that I’d effectively fired them and thought it was unprofessional and rude and held a grudge against me for it......even though I explained to them WHY I had to go ahead and let them go; b/c I had to open up the position. Needless to say there were also some still on my team who felt like they should’ve been considered for the manager gig before me. 1 guy whom I’d had to write up several times over the course of my tenure in the position complained to my boss that I’d essentially been “targeting” him. Needless to say, my boss knew better and largely ignored him on that account.

fast forward 5 years later, the service was stable and thriving and we were fully staffed again...but I was finally ready to leave. So chose to do another internal transfer to another, better paying job within the hospital. I had a 5 person interview with directors and managers in the department I was being considered for. Now, Im sure if they’d wanted, they could’ve easily reached out to my former boss and the staff member I’d written up and put on probation as well as a few other current and former staffers by this point to get their thoughts on me. And I’m sure they would’ve come back with a mixed enough bag of responses to question whether or not I was a good fit or at the very least “what’s going on here” type thing. This, Even though my record was clean from a disciplinary standpoint & I had a good rep amongst most people who’d worked for and with me and Despite how some of the actions that I’d taken in my tenure were looked at by a few...including some doctors.

Thankfully they didn’t and I didn’t have to field B.S. questions about some of the **** that happened during my tenure in the position. What’s more is i’m also thankful that my situation wasn’t so high profile that I could’ve had some blowhard journalist investigating every damn interaction I had with everyone at my previous places of employment looking for dirt.....but that is the situation Easterby has found himself in & why I’m looking at all this with suspicion...or as some put it “endorsing wild conspiracy theories”.

No matter the field, You’re not going to have favorable interactions with everyone you’ve worked with & not everyone is gonna buy what you’re selling. And I guarantee Some folks you probably thought you were good with, think something about you that you wouldn’t quite characterize yourself as. Easterby just has the unfortunate luck of having his aired publicly by people too chicken **** to even put their name on their statements so that his boss can fire him.....**** is hella weak...& soft I might add.
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I had similar experiences hiring on with the 2nd company I managed and built SSA disability programs for. Replacing a former manager who had cheated other employees was viewed by those workers with mistrust and doubt. I had to win them over with consistency and understanding their POV. A couple had to be terminated.
 
Texian said:
My $4 worth. IMHO the SI and Profootballtalk pieces were coordinated character assassination efforts. This is all political. This is retribution by a couple of left wing media companies for the firing of Amy Palcic. Palcic is a strong vocal supporter of Joe Biden. It's no secret the McNair's are conservatives. Palcic bringing her strong vocal support of liberalism and Joe Biden into the office was her undoing and reasons for her dismissal from Texans. Mike Florio and Peter King both known liberals and who both work for the liberal NBC took exception to the reasons for the Palcic firing and decided to exact their revenge on Jack Easterby who was blamed and held responsible for her exit.

When you have finished reviewing both pieces you ask what was the news here. There really isn't. Maybe a few facts thrown in with a lot of supposition, conjecture and innuendo. What was the purpose or reason for the pieces? To label Jack Easterby as a really bad, conniving, back stabbing individual. That's all, mission accomplished.

That said, to be clear, I am no fan of Jack Easterby and think the Texans would be much better off without him. I don't think anything will come of this because the directive to get rid of Amy Palcic probably came directly from the McNairs.
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Exactly, I dont like Easterby either, but this was a bunch of Libs trying to carry out the Cancel Culture. Truth is Easterby was doing nothing more than carrying out the McNair's wishes and taking the heat for the McNair's, even though I wish Easterby would be let go (Not for this reason) I fully expect Easterby to not only stay around but for Cal to give his fellow South Carolinian more power behind the scenes after the new regime is in place.
 
Double Barrel said:
It's merely a fancy way of explaining that the simplest explanation is usually the correct one. It's a problem solving principle that has been championed by great minds like Isaac Newton and Bertrand Russell.

And unless you can provide a logical reason why Easterby is the subject of an intense focus of 40+ sources and multiple national media outlets, I don't see how you can ascertain anything reasonable beyond the simple explanation.

But, please, continue with the complicated and unsubstantiated conspiracies against little ol' Jack Easterby, as it is much more entertaining and amusing than the simple explanation that he's a power-hungry con man.

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Incorrect. He quit the Patriots because of the Kraft scandal.

"Patriots owner Robert Kraft's charges for soliciting prostitution didn't sit well with Easterby and played a role in his decision to part ways with the team." Source



LMAO!!!! :spit:

Here we go with the vast conspiracy theories again. Yet no "character assassination" of the two men that actually fired Amy. Not even ONE single attempt at the characters Cal or Jamey Rootes mentioned in the article. What a terrible conspiracy theory. Worse than the fake moon landing.
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I do believe that the SI piece has to to with Palcic and retribution. The press is taking their pound of flesh for the firing of a person who believes in the same thing they do. Of course the McNair's used Easterby as a shield. (It's what they've always done. Deflect and manipulate)

With this said you know I want a full housecleaning and Easterby would be the 1st to go if I was in charge because you will never get a top tier GM if Easterby is still here pulling the strings for the McNair's behind the scenes. The Texans org is so screwed up but these are the kinds of things you get when you have 2 unqualified owners. Cletus and Janice are lost in some kind of morality time warp. Not Texans Worthy is not only the motto by with the Texans are run, it's actually a missions statement behind the scenes and I dont see this changing anytime soon.
 
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steelbtexan said:
I do believe that the SI piece has to to with Palcic and retribution. The press is taking their pound of flesh for the firing of a person who believes in the same thing they do. Of course the McNair's used Easterby as a shield. (It's what they always done. Deflect and manipulate)

With this said you know I want a full housecleaning and Easterby would be the 1st to go if I was in charge because you will never get a top tier GM if Easterby is still here pulling the strings for the McNair's behind the scenes. The Texans org is so screwed up but these are the kinds of things you get when you have 2 unqualified owners. Cletus and Janice are lost in some kind of morality time warp. Not Texans Worthy is not only the motto by with the Texans are run, it's actually a missions statement behind the scenes and I dont see this changing anytime soon.
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And yet in another thread you insinuate that both Caserio and McDaniels who you consider highly would come here because of Easterby
 
Mollywhopper said:
How high is it on your list?
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If he's asking me to fill the job, not very.

If he's looking for an interim guy to finish out the season, not much higher.

If he's looking for the next guy to manage the football operations of this team, top of the list, unless he finds someone like John Lynch or John Elway.
 
steelbtexan said:
I do believe that the SI piece has to to with Palcic and retribution. The press is taking their pound of flesh for the firing of a person who believes in the same thing they do. Of course the McNair's used Easterby as a shield. (It's what they always done. Deflect and manipulate)

With this said you know I want a full housecleaning and Easterby would be the 1st to go if I was in charge because you will never get a top tier GM if Easterby is still here pulling the strings for the McNair's behind the scenes. The Texans org is so screwed up but these are the kinds of things you get when you have 2 unqualified owners. Cletus and Janice are lost in some kind of morality time warp. Not Texans Worthy is not only the motto by with the Texans are run, it's actually a missions statement behind the scenes and I dont see this changing anytime soon.
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Just to remind everyone, Cal is not an owner. I know you know this Steel but some reading may not.
 
JB said:
And yet in another thread you insinuate that both Caserio and McDaniels who you consider highly would come here because of Easterby
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Caserio, I can 100% see. Cal already got tampering charges for trying to get him. His new deal says he can leave at anytime. Why would Cal not be going after him seeing he has been for 2 years. McDaniels is staying in NE, he was promised the HC spot and likely a ton of money and power. That is not a known fact, but he met with Kraft and then suddenly turned Miami down and cancelled any interviews. And he has not taken any other off since. Chances are good that he was offered the basic job Hoodie has now (power included) and given a set time line for the position to be his. Hoodie has indicated that he is not going to coach much longer. If they don't at least make the playoffs... would not surprise me that he retired after the season. He could get a position higher up in the FO however. Kraft would probably reward him for 6 titles with a plush office type job.
 
badboy said:
Just to remind everyone, Cal is not an owner. I know you know this Steel but some reading may not.
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No he is not the owner, but for all intent and purpose he is. Janice is not making the moves in the FO. Cal is doing everything. So it's kinda like he is the owner without the title. And if Janice was smarter she would see what he is doing and sell the team. Maintain say "X" amount of ownership just so she is close to Bob's baby (buying and creating the team).
 
SnakeEyes said:
No he is not the owner, but for all intent and purpose he is. Janice is not making the moves in the FO. Cal is doing everything. So it's kinda like he is the owner without the title. And if Janice was smarter she would see what he is doing and sell the team. Maintain say "X" amount of ownership just so she is close to Bob's baby (buying and creating the team).
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I see no reason for Janice McNair to sell the team at this time.
 
SnakeEyes said:
No he is not the owner, but for all intent and purpose he is. Janice is not making the moves in the FO. Cal is doing everything. So it's kinda like he is the owner without the title. And if Janice was smarter she would see what he is doing and sell the team. Maintain say "X" amount of ownership just so she is close to Bob's baby (buying and creating the team).
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why would she do that? Cal is the not the “owner” per se, but he is the guy running things and is the mouth piece...much like the bears’ situation. Technically, Virginia McCaskey is the owner, but George McCaskey is probably pulling all the day to day strings.
 
JB said:
And yet in another thread you insinuate that both Caserio and McDaniels who you consider highly would come here because of Easterby
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I don't think they would come here just because Easterby is here. But they are top of the list candidates. IMHO

It's not going to happen so there's nothing to worry about.
 
thunderkyss said:
If he's asking me to fill the job, not very.

If he's looking for an interim guy to finish out the season, not much higher.

If he's looking for the next guy to manage the football operations of this team, top of the list, unless he finds someone like John Lynch or John Elway.
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All of those have to do with actually doing the job, and if you don't mind believing you're not qualified then fair enough..
 
Mollywhopper said:
All of those have to do with actually doing the job, and if you don't mind believing you're not qualified then fair enough..
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I don't think he's doing much of anything between October & January. They had an opportunity to do something before the trade deadline but didn't. McNair probably figured they were better off not doing anything since Easterby isn't a personnel guy nor a financial guy.

If we get past Jan 15 & Easterby is still the "interim" GM, then I'll be worried.
 
Cal needs to tell GM candidates Easterby is finishing out the season, he will report to you, and you can keep or fire him. It is a little unfair to make the GM do that, but we don't need an interim interim GM, Cal needs somebody to finish the season in Ops, and the new GM MAY want Easterby doing crap or MAY want the opportunity to show his power and whack him. Anyway, if I was Cal, I would probably play it that way. You look like weak sauce to fire him now after the article (just bending to pressure) so let the season play out. I would certainly have a candid 1-1 with him on the story though
 
Mr teX said:
why would she do that?
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badboy said:
I see no reason for Janice McNair to sell the team at this time.
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1. Texans are an embarrassment to the city of Houston.
2. Texans are laughing stock of the NFL.
3. She has a son being ridiculed in the public arena.
4. She also has 3 other children and even more grandchildren not sharing in the Texans pie but are also subject to the mockery.
5. This was Bob's dream and Bob is dead.
6. Would Cal really be devastated if Texans are sold or would he be relieved not to face the public scorn and ridicule?
 
Texian said:
1. Texans are an embarrassment to the city of Houston.
2. Texans are laughing stock of the NFL.
3. She has a son being ridiculed in the public arena.
4. She also has 3 other children and even more grandchildren not sharing in the Texans pie but are also subject to the mockery.
5. This was Bob's dream and Bob is dead.
6. Would Cal really be devastated if Texans are sold or would he be relieved not to face the public scorn and ridicule?
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none of those even remotely makes sense on any level as a reason for her or the McNair family to sell.
 
Rich Schmidt said:
Cal needs to tell GM candidates Easterby is finishing out the season, he will report to you, and you can keep or fire him. It is a little unfair to make the GM do that, but we don't need an interim interim GM, Cal needs somebody to finish the season in Ops, and the new GM MAY want Easterby doing crap or MAY want the opportunity to show his power and whack him. Anyway, if I was Cal, I would probably play it that way. You look like weak sauce to fire him now after the article (just bending to pressure) so let the season play out. I would certainly have a candid 1-1 with him on the story though
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Won't happen. Reports are that Cal loves Easterby and he has zero plans to get rid of him. And if that's the case...we can count on the new GM and HC to be average at best. You only have 1 shot at a GM spot. You have to be good or your not going to be able to get another one for a long time if ever.

Only hope is that Easterby IS made a different position (even a made up one) that has no say in staff or players. However, it's been said that Easterby was asking the FO for information on players. A person who has come forward but not named to be safe from retribution said " I know realize that he was asking for the information... To control the situation of players and contacts" and the contract part is true. He was involved with signing Watson to his deal and others.
 
SnakeEyes said:
I see one... Cal is turning it into the laughing stock of the NFL.
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Perhaps in your view and mine but not Mrs McNair's? Her husband brought in O'Brien and IMO she gave okay for Cal to move him out. Perhaps she wants this new opportunity for her son to correct his father's mistake? Most fans thought Bill was the poop coming down the chute. He's been flushed. Fans usually forgive quickly even though we have seen ad nauseum on this MB, we don't forget EVER. Cal just needs to spread soothing ointment on inflamed areas and allow time to heal.
 
According to reports Easterby talked Cal into letting OB go. Which is interesting seeing OB brought Easterby here. He set up his own doom. But, when OB is a HC for say the Jets and they destroy us because Easterby holds back good candidates...we will have to take it. Cal was going to do what Bob McNair did...make him have a GM.

Plus, so cut and dry things about Easterby...


 
SnakeEyes said:
According to reports Easterby talked Cal into letting OB go. Which is interesting seeing OB brought Easterby here. He set up his own doom. But, when OB is a HC for say the Jets and they destroy us because Easterby holds back good candidates...we will have to take it. Cal was going to do what Bob McNair did...make him have a GM.

Plus, so cut and dry things about Easterby...
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This is not a news report. This is a guy with a hard on for Jack Easterby who he hates and wants to destroy. He is using his microphone to try and do exactly that. That's it nothing more, there is no news here.
 
Texian said:
This is not a news report. This is a guy with a hard on for Jack Easterby who he hates and wants to destroy. He is using his microphone to try and do exactly that. That's it nothing more, there is no news here.
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That's just 2 random videos. The text is from an article about the situation as well as NFL.com and Sports Illustrated. Also, the Texans will not (did not) return the questionnaire to SI. This is a fact that I personally think is very odd
 
Decim8 said:
Last I checked they got the same record as us in arguably one of the worst division and let's not forget the winless jets too
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I'm not talking about performance. I'm talking about the FO and staff. Cal is letting Easterby run the ship...and word around the NFL is it might be worse than that.
 
I'm really surprised to see that Easterby has so many homers around here. He's a shyster that talked his way into an NFL GM position and has no idea how to do the job.

Chaos might be a ladder for him, but it's a toxic work environment to everyone else.
 
Mr. White said:
I'm really surprised to see that Easterby has so many homers around here. He's a shyster that talked his way into an NFL GM position and has no idea how to do the job.

Chaos might be a ladder for him, but it's a toxic work environment to everyone else.
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I am surprised that you made a decision about a person with no facts supporting that decision. Can you show any evidence that E asked to be the GM temporarily? All reports that I have seen say he was asked to step in. Cal has stated he will not be the GM going forward. That seems to contradict your opinion. It does seem like for some reason you have a personal dislike for the man and allowed that to form your opinion.
I am not saying he is qualified to be GM.
 
badboy said:
I am surprised that you made a decision about a person with no facts supporting that decision. Can you show any evidence that E asked to be the GM temporarily? All reports that I have seen say he was asked to step in. Cal has stated he will not be the GM going forward. That seems to contradict your opinion. It does seem like for some reason you have a personal dislike for the man and allowed that to form your opinion.
I am not saying he is qualified to be GM.
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If you agree that he's not qualified to be GM, then why bother replying? Why is he worthy of you taking the time and energy to defend him?
 
badboy said:
I am surprised that you made a decision about a person with no facts supporting that decision. Can you show any evidence that E asked to be the GM temporarily? All reports that I have seen say he was asked to step in. Cal has stated he will not be the GM going forward. That seems to contradict your opinion. It does seem like for some reason you have a personal dislike for the man and allowed that to form your opinion.
I am not saying he is qualified to be GM.
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That’s an extremely naive take on Easterby. Did he ask for the job? No one knows what was said between he and Cal. Did he get the job? Yes, he did. Easterby didn’t tell Cal that he lacked the qualifications for the position. He didn’t stop Cal from firing O’Brien, or Gaine before that. Easterby was involved in the process that led to his temporary promotion. And while Cal has made a statement that Easterby will not become the full time GM, that was only after a report that he may be the GM in 2021. Due to COVID-19 concerns.

To answer Mr, White’s question, there is some Easterby jocking after the firing of a PR person no one had ever heard of. Easterby can’t be that bad if he fired her. That’s the only plausible answer I have to support this Rasputin.
 
Lucky said:
To answer Mr, White’s question, there is some Easterby jocking after the firing of a PR person no one had ever heard of. Easterby can’t be that bad if he fired her. That’s the only plausible answer I have to support this Rasputin.
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Ohhhh ok. So it's kinda like 13 or14 years ago when people were defending David Carr's religious views as a reason to keep him at QB while his play on the field was suggesting otherwise.

Back then the "fake news" media was ESPN when they reported Carr wasn't putting in the time at practice. All the Carr homers refused to believe this story.

Then a few weeks later, Bob McNair himself said he got rid of Carr because he wasn't putting the time in at practice.

I have a tough time with this line of thinking. Sometimes you just hire the wrong guy.
 
badboy said:
I am surprised that you made a decision about a person with no facts supporting that decision. Can you show any evidence that E asked to be the GM temporarily? All reports that I have seen say he was asked to step in. Cal has stated he will not be the GM going forward. That seems to contradict your opinion. It does seem like for some reason you have a personal dislike for the man and allowed that to form your opinion.
I am not saying he is qualified to be GM.
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He believes what the media sold him. I don't trust the media.

However there needs to be a full housecleaning and that includes Easterby exiting Kirby.
 
Texian said:
Cowboys didn't trade away DeAndre Hopkins for a ham sandwich.
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& yet they're still just as much, if not more of a train wreck than we are. "fat mike" is already on the hotseat, Mike Nolan's defense is arguably worse than ours and it looks like Zeke has been fed a little too much to where he can't even hold onto the ball anymore. Not to mention how Jerrah bungled the Dak contract situation.
 
Mr. White said:
No one knows anything about his football knowledge. Please enlighten me.
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Apparently he knows enough to have been hired by 4 professional football teams over the course of 16 years. He’s also observed & been apart of various levels of success at each of these organizations up to and including multiple championship teams.

“football knowledge” isn’t just limited to knowing what a 4.4 forty means for a cb or knowing scheme or anything and everything that happens on the field or how talented a guy is...being able to assess how a guy might fit and or how a coach needs to properly motivate a guy within a team dynamic can be considered football knowledge too.

Not having someone or a coach who understood this dynamic is partly to blame for why Brandon Brooks couldn’t wait to get out of here from under BoB and why the dude wasn’t properly diagnosed with his anxiety disorder.
 
Mr teX said:
They count on guys like you. Just remember those same clowns in the media and local radio were the same ones pumping up the BoB hire 6 years ago and the Easterby one 2 years ago.
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lol You try way too hard to be right. However, in your own mind, you are right. :thinking:

"They count on guys like you." LMAO!!! I'm a nobody that spends nothing on this product. I'm a Texans heretic, if I'm anything at all. I want them to move out of town. It's a lost cause, IMO. You think they really "count on guys like me"? lol You are delusional.

The dissertations some of y'all write makes me wonder sometimes. . .thoughts I shall refrain from expanding.

thunderkyss said:
That doesn’t make him power hungry
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He's the only team counselor with an agent that represents front office execs, mainly GMs and HCs.

Yeah, he's power hungry. It's the duck theory. Don't overthink it.

steelbtexan said:
I do believe that the SI piece has to to with Palcic and retribution. The press is taking their pound of flesh for the firing of a person who believes in the same thing they do. Of course the McNair's used Easterby as a shield. (It's what they've always done. Deflect and manipulate)
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Provide ANYTHING beyond subjective opinions to support such a claim. Otherwise, it is utter horse poop to make such assertions.

And this conversation confirms - yet again - why politics was permanently removed from this forum.
 
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