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The Texans still don't have a championship level QB. So you shouldn't be using terms like franchise QB. Stop doing this and I will stop replying like I do.

What's wrong with me hoping I'm wrong?

Until the Texans put a championship type of team on the field....you have absolutely nothing to base your speculation on.

I’ve made this argument far too many times in the past and it appears I’ll need to do it again.
1. Show me in the NFL annals where a great QB hauled a horrendous team to a Championship.
2. If great QB’s haul horrendous teams to Championships.....why couldn’t Steve Young do it in TB? Young’s ability to be great didn’t happen until SF brought him on board. There are more success stories like Young’s in the NFL and some involve QB’s coming into their own once the team became great around them.....take bow Peyton Manning, Troy Aikman, etc.

All you do is hold Watson to an impossible level of success while he’s surrounded by a horrendous team.....unless you wish to convince those on this board that Watson has been blessed with a competent FO, Coaching staff, talent on both sides of the ball, and yet he’s the one who prevented the ultimate success.

Here’s some reality.....without Watson, Texans don’t even come close to sniffing their weak AFC South titles much less the victories he provided. Texans would’ve been consistently drafting in the top 5 and OB would’ve been ducking up even more than what he destroyed in 1 season b/c the Texans did not do checks and balances.

You’re the one who should’ve been holding back on your slanted views until you had an opportunity to watch Watson perform within a competent and talented organization.
 
Until the Texans put a championship type of team on the field....you have absolutely nothing to base your speculation on.

I’ve made this argument far too many times in the past and it appears I’ll need to do it again.
1. Show me in the NFL annals where a great QB hauled a horrendous team to a Championship.
2. If great QB’s haul horrendous teams to Championships.....why couldn’t Steve Young do it in TB? Young’s ability to be great didn’t happen until SF brought him on board. There are more success stories like Young’s in the NFL and some involve QB’s coming into their own once the team became great around them.....take bow Peyton Manning, Troy Aikman, etc.

All you do is hold Watson to an impossible level of success while he’s surrounded by a horrendous team.....unless you wish to convince those on this board that Watson has been blessed with a competent FO, Coaching staff, talent on both sides of the ball, and yet he’s the one who prevented the ultimate success.

Here’s some reality.....without Watson, Texans don’t even come close to sniffing their weak AFC South titles much less the victories he provided. Texans would’ve been consistently drafting in the top 5 and OB would’ve been ducking up even more than what he destroyed in 1 season b/c the Texans did not do checks and balances.

You’re the one who should’ve been holding back on your slanted views until you had an opportunity to watch Watson perform within a competent and talented organization.

This depends on if you think DW4's part of the problem or part of the solution.

I'm done talking about DW4 for today.
 
This depends on if you think DW4's part of the problem or part of the solution.

I'm done talking about DW4 for today.
No worries, you will be back posting the same thing about DW4 tomorrow and the next day and the next day and the next day and the next day...........

Sigh...It's going to be a long four years for you. Because eventually, you will be ignored.
 
No worries, you will be back posting the same thing about DW4 tomorrow and the next day and the next day and the next day and the next day...........

Sigh...It's going to be a long four years for you. Because eventually, you will be ignored.

Posters can choose to ignore me if they wish.

If DW4 doesn't start playing better then more than already have will start to come around. (You wont be one of them regardless of outcome, there will always be more excuses.)

Kinda like people started coming around on my stance when it comes to Texans ownership. But you do have 1 thing right, it's going to be a long 4 yrs.
 
Posters can choose to ignore me if they wish.

If DW4 doesn't start playing better then more than already have will start to come around. (You wont be one of them regardless of outcome, there will always be more excuses.)

Kinda like people started coming around on my stance when it comes to Texans ownership. But you do have 1 thing right, it's going to be a long 4 yrs.

Instead of putting the onus on Watson exclusively.....folks might take you more seriously if you recognized the fact that the team around him is horrendous and any victory he snatches from the jaws of defeat is a miracle in itself. As we all know...there isn't anyone else that's going to take this team over the threshold of victory.
 
Posters can choose to ignore me if they wish.

If DW4 doesn't start playing better then more than already have will start to come around. (You wont be one of them regardless of outcome, there will always be more excuses.)

Kinda like people started coming around on my stance when it comes to Texans ownership. But you do have 1 thing right, it's going to be a long 4 yrs.

LMAO. So, what if people come around or not? So what, if there are more excuses? Who cares? How many posters wanted the Texans to draft VY? Years later, does anyone post regrets about not drafting VY? You can look back at the history of this organization and it's littered with more misses than hits. So, what if Watson ends up being another miss? Rational fans hope for the best and if it doesn't work, they move on.

It might surprise you, but no one is keeping a @steelbtexan score card to give you an "attaboy" award for being right. Because in the grand scheme of things, most posters don't care. They are just trying to have a discussion about their favorite team without having to wade through your daily DW4 ramblings.
 
LMAO. So, what if people come around or not? So what, if there are more excuses? Who cares? How many posters wanted the Texans to draft VY? Years later, does anyone post regrets about not drafting VY? You can look back at the history of this organization and it's littered with more misses than hits. So, what if Watson ends up being another miss? Rational fans hope for the best and if it doesn't work, they move on.

It might surprise you, but no one is keeping a @steelbtexan score card to give you an "attaboy" award for being right. Because in the grand scheme of things, most posters don't care. They are just trying to have a discussion about their favorite team without having to wade through your daily DW4 ramblings.


Instead of putting the onus on Watson exclusively.....folks might take you more seriously if you recognized the fact that the team around him is horrendous and any victory he snatches from the jaws of defeat is a miracle in itself. As we all know...there isn't anyone else that's going to take this team over the threshold of victory.

Earl obviously you think I care what other people think? I'm just pointing out things you dont care for very much.

To both of the above posts, I'm not commenting on DW4 tonight. Y'all already know my thoughts just as well as I know both of yours.
 
Whoo big SI story on jack


Easterby’s sudden ascent to power has generated intense curiosity and, depending on whom you ask, either admiration or scrutiny. He has not conducted any on-the-record interviews since September, leaving others to make sense of perhaps the NFL’s most polarizing executive. In response to interview requests for Easterby and team owner Cal McNair, as well a list of 83 questions regarding the details of this story, a Texans spokesperson provided broad statements on behalf of McNair and Easterby (which can be read in full here). To Sports Illustrated, some called the 37-year-old a guiding force in their lives, a beloved minister and mentor who shepherded two NFL franchises through difficult times and became part of the foundation of the Patriots’ late-dynasty years, earning him a rare spot in Bill Belichick’s inner circle. Many in Houston, though, have not seen him as the congenial confidant and Belichick foil. Rather, they describe an authority figure whose leadership style sows distrust and division, at times flouting rules and straining relationships inside the building. Meanwhile, his responsibilities expanded despite questions surrounding his credentials.


Conversations with more than 40 people—current and former Texans football operations staff and players, colleagues from Easterby’s time in New England, those from his past in and out of football—provided detailed accounts of his alleged role in, among other things:

  • Undermining other executives and decision-makers, including the head coach who helped bring him to Houston.
  • The team’s holding workouts at the head strength coach’s house during the COVID-19 pandemic after the NFL had ordered franchises to shut down all facilities, shortly before a breakout of infections among players.
  • Advocating for a trade of star receiver DeAndre Hopkins soon after arriving in Houston—one season before Hopkins was sent to Arizona in a widely panned deal.
  • Fostering a culture of distrust among staff and players to the point that one Texan and two other staffers believed players were being surveilled outside the building.
When SI began making phone calls in October to make sense of Easterby’s improbable path, he quickly caught wind and reached out to a reporter, saying that he wanted to help communicate “truth and honesty.” Easterby did not return a text message, sent Tuesday, offering a chance to tell his side of the story. But colleagues who spoke to SI—many requesting anonymity, like the player, for fear of retribution—said they felt compelled to share their own truth in the hopes of opening the eyes of McNair, of whom one source said: “[He] is just blinded.” There is a perception inside the Texans’ building that Easterby won a power struggle, completing his climb. And in doing so, these sources say, the character coach brought in to improve the culture has made it worse.


Within his first few weeks with the Texans, though, Easterby began making requests of multiple football operations departments to prepare presentations or reports, seeking specific information without disclosing how it would be used. Easterby framed these asks as a learning exercise. Looking back now, many of his colleagues wonder whether he was collecting the intel he would need to run a team.

The character coach also freely shared with other members of the organization what some saw as unfair or inaccurate perceptions of players, including the notion that Watson and Hopkins didn’t get along when in actuality, others saw the two as close friends. Or that one Texans veteran had a gambling problem, a description with which other staffers disagreed. Last January, the Texans fired Chris Olsen, their longtime contract negotiator. Easterby subsequently took on a lead role in negotiating contracts—O’Brien publicly credited him for closing extensions for Watson and linebacker Zach Cunningham—some of which have been widely criticized for their player-friendly structures.

While Easterby aspires to be a transformational leader, guided by religion and morality, people who have worked alongside him in Houston have increasingly come to see him as transactional. Says a colleague: “If you combine a faith-healing televangelist with Littlefinger, you’d get Jack Easterby.”

While Easterby did forge some connections, four people who worked for the Texans around this time say that he did not have a relationship with Hopkins, one of the team’s most important players. Hopkins had earned first-team All-Pro honors in each of the three seasons since Houston drafted Watson in 2017. The emerging quarterback and star receiver led Houston to back-to-back division titles in ’18 and ’19. They also shared a close bond that extended beyond their prolific relationship on the field; the players jointly held a Thanksgiving dinner for teammates and members of the organization who didn’t have family in town for the holiday.

O’Brien, who assumed the GM title nine months before being fired, took the brunt of the backlash for Hopkins’s unpopular trade, which has proved to be lopsided. While O’Brien negotiated the terms—the consensus was that the coach wanted to trade Hopkins as well—the same sources who recounted Easterby’s perceived coldness to Hopkins say it went further: They describe Easterby as the first, and most persistent, advocate for the team’s trading the receiver out of Houston. One of these people recalls hearing Easterby saying about Hopkins in front of small groups of people on multiple occasions in 2019, “We need to move on from that person,” without using his name. Another recalls learning that the Texans discussed trading Hopkins as early as the summer of 2019.




Hopkins’s trade left a void in the Texans’ offense and in the locker room. The receiver often led a call and response when breaking down meetings, calling out “Glory!” to which his teammates would respond “Hallelujah!” Watson carried on that tradition this season as a nod to his former teammate, and Hopkins agreed to a two-year extension with the Cardinals. (Hopkins is No. 2 in the NFL with 85 catches.)

Some of Easterby’s staples weren’t as effective in Houston as they had been at previous stops. Those motivational cards from his South Carolina days traveled to New England, and then to Houston, where they were customized with the Texans’ logo. Each week, a new card would appear on players’ stools in the locker room and on employees’ desks. Members of the organization asked one another if they could throw the cards away without repercussions—at least one did. Eventually word reached Easterby: This particular tool had not resonated.

Easterby also began occasionally addressing the team on the nights preceding games, turning the meeting room into his pulpit. But some of his efforts to relate to the majority-Black roster occasionally failed him; in some cases he even caused offense. During one Saturday-night meeting in 2019, Easterby, who is white and cites Martin Luther King Jr. as a role model, asked players to think back to when they were growing up “playing ball with Ray-Ray and Ki-Ki and them,” according to three people in the room for these meetings. Some saw the language as more of a misguided attempt to fit in—players often called Easterby a “try-hard.” But at least one person was bothered enough by what they saw as a use of Black stereotypes that they debated saying something to Easterby. (They decided not to take on that conversation with a game the next day.) A few weeks later, one of the sources says, Easterby used similar language again.




A culture of distrust had started to permeate the organization. Multiple Texans from Easterby’s tenure say they began to watch what they would say in conversations with him, nervous that the culture coach was looking for reasons to move out people with different values or lifestyles. Those worries weren’t limited to the workplace. One player was so convinced he was being followed by someone representing the team that he paid a friend to watch the dark sedan he says he observed frequently parked outside his house. He even went so far as to log license plate numbers of unfamiliar cars. Two other members of the organization shared the player’s concerns that members of the team were being surveilled away from the building. (The Texans did not respond to specific questions about these accounts.)
 
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Let's see the Sunshiners pump this one up. :spin:

Easterby has clearly manipulated his way to power and influence within this franchise in Bob McNair's absence. Apparently Janice and Cal need it, or they would not tolerate some BS "character coach" or "morality police" or whatever the heck he's supposed to be

Truth is that he's a power-hungry charlatan that is preying on the gullible rich. It would be a lot more amusing if it wasn't the team that I'm supposed to root for as a hometown kinda' guy. It's tough to care about a franchise that is so inviting of ridicule.

It'll be interesting to see how this impacts the hiring of a GM and HC. Low expectations should be in order if Easterby is part of the process.
 
Let's see the Sunshiners pump this one up. :spin:

Easterby has clearly manipulated his way to power and influence within this franchise in Bob McNair's absence. Apparently Janice and Cal need it, or they would not tolerate some BS "character coach" or "morality police" or whatever the heck he's supposed to be

Truth is that he's a power-hungry charlatan that is preying on the gullible rich. It would be a lot more amusing if it wasn't the team that I'm supposed to root for as a hometown kinda' guy. It's tough to care about a franchise that is so inviting of ridicule.

It'll be interesting to see how this impacts the hiring of a GM and HC. Low expectations should be in order if Easterby is part of the process.
I don't think there is a single person on this site who wants Jack to remain on this staff in any capacity
 
I don't think there is a single person on this site who wants Jack to remain on this staff in any capacity

I'd hope not, but McClain sure seems to love him some Easterby. Or, he's just being a good boy for his owners.

I'm a firm believer in smoke and fire. There has been enough about Easterby from such a variety of sources that I think it is clear that he's a toxin to this franchise. Obviously, those in positions of power probably disagree.

But ultimately, the collective might of fans potentially abandoning this franchise because it's perceived to be run by a bunch of nincompoops will be noticed by those same positions of power. The bottom line moves mountains.
 
The partnership between Easterby and O’Brien appeared to work well at first. O’Brien wasn’t at odds with Easterby the way he had been with former GM Rick Smith, and Easterby took on tasks that gave O’Brien more time for his priority—coaching. But as Easterby continued to expand his influence in 2019 and beyond, team employees began to wonder when O’Brien would finally see Easterby the way they did. By that point, three Texans say they believed that the vast majority of the franchise did not trust the person brought in to improve the culture. Two of them estimate that 85% of the building did not trust Easterby; another upped the percentage to 90.

The Texans did not respond to specific questions about their editing process. Easterby’s bio was heavily revised for the ’20 media guide—and updated online—to state that he “gained his first NFL experience in the summer of ’04 with the Jacksonville Jaguars, helping in football operations and public relations.” In a statement provided to SI by a Texans spokesperson, McNair said that Easterby’s background was “fully vetted” and that the owner stands by his hiring.

As recently as November, a bio for Easterby that appeared on the website for the Greatest Champion Foundation (a nonprofit with a goal of serving athletes holistically through faith and founded by Easterby and his father) claimed that Easterby has over the years “been entrusted with over 50 head coaching searches at both power-five and mid-major universities for multiple sports.” Neither the Texans nor Easterby addressed specific questions from SI about which programs he has worked with on coaching searches and in what capacity.

That foundation’s site was down for most of the past month—a staffer explained that it was due to a redesign and migration to a new content management system—and when the new version launched last weekend, Easterby no longer had a bio. He is still noted as the foundation’s founder and chair of the board of directors, and the foundation’s latest 990 tax return says Easterby worked there an average of 40 hours per week in 2019, also his first year in Houston, collecting a salary of $16,981. A statement provided to SI by a Texans spokesperson on Easterby’s behalf reads, in part, “I have made no false claims about my experience, nor my work with my Foundation.”

Considering his limited experience in pro football, these shifting credentials can be seen as an attempt to retroactively justify the roles he held in the NFL—particularly his current one, for which many feel he is unqualified. Perhaps more off-putting: A leader, whose greatest skill is his ability to build strong moral character, long maintained a public bio that may not have been fully transparent about his past.

The Texans sent that message again Tuesday. One day after SI provided the Texans with a list of questions regarding the details of this story but before its deadline for the team’s response, McNair sent a letter to season-ticket holders announcing the Texans had assembled a star-studded committee to conduct the search for the Texans’ next coach and general manager. Hall of Fame coaches Tony Dungy and Jimmy Johnson, as well as franchise legend Andre Johnson and others, will join McNair, team president Jamey Rootes and search firm Korn Ferry in the process.

In a statement provided to SI by a Texans spokesperson, McNair said he believes Easterby did “a great job picking up [GM] responsibilities in addition to his other duties,” but that he wants to “make it clear that Jack is not on our internal search committee for the next GM or head coach. ... However, I value Jack’s input and if he has first-hand knowledge about a specific candidate, I will ask for his observations and feedback.” He and the next GM, McNair affirmed, will determine the roles of all football operations employees, including Easterby.

There’s a sense that Easterby is scrambling. Confidants say that the last couple of months have been a tough time for Easterby, as he’s faced what McNair labeled as “personal attacks.” He’s trying to hang on as the roles he once captured slip away. Those who were with him in that first season in Houston know that he’s capable of doing it. As one former Texans staffer says, it doesn’t matter what the rest of the building thinks of him. “All you have to do is convince one or two people, then isolate them from the thoughts and feelings of the rest of the staff.”

Last November, the Texans boarded their team charter for a 10-hour trip home after a game against the Jaguars in London. Mid-flight, several players gathered around a table in the galley area, playing cards and sharing laughs after their sixth win of the season. Nearby, Easterby knelt in an aisle, speaking in a low voice to McNair. The volume of the card game grew, and Easterby took his stand. He rose and made a move toward the galley, shushing the players, demanding quiet—imploring them that Mr. McNair needs his sleep. Then he returned to his post, by the owner’s side, the one voice in his ear.
 
As long as Easterby is still employed by the Texans, I will have nothing to do with this team. I haven't watched a single game this season, only a clip or two here and there. My interest in the NFL and the Texans were killed by the dumb Hopkins trade. We now know that Easterby had a much bigger role than we had assumed at the time in getting Hopkins traded. Until he's gone, I want nothing to do with this franchise.
 
Thank you SI!!! There is no way Rasputin Easterby can remain with the Texans after this devastating piece. As Texans fans, we have to thank them for getting the kill shot on this bastard.

Did you read McNair's statement? The link was provided in the statement zshawn posted. Cal provided this statement to SI in response to this story, which SI provided to McNair before it was published.

Sounds like McNair is doubling down on Easterby. He's going to be around for a while.
 
Did you read McNair's statement? The link was provided in the statement zshawn posted. Cal provided this statement to SI in response to this story, which SI provided to McNair before it was published.

Sounds like McNair is doubling down on Easterby. He's going to be around for a while.

those statements were the bare minimum to back a current employee. This article will be the talk of the NFL for weeks. SI has forced the Texans hand. This charlatan is going to be brought up by every GM and head coach candidate brought into interview. He can no longer hide in the shadows with his murky job title and amass power. His role has to be dealt with by the new Gm and coach. Hopefully they will both see that there is no room for Easterby with the Texans
 
Let's see the Sunshiners pump this one up. :spin:

Easterby has clearly manipulated his way to power and influence within this franchise in Bob McNair's absence. Apparently Janice and Cal need it, or they would not tolerate some BS "character coach" or "morality police" or whatever the heck he's supposed to be

Truth is that he's a power-hungry charlatan that is preying on the gullible rich. It would be a lot more amusing if it wasn't the team that I'm supposed to root for as a hometown kinda' guy. It's tough to care about a franchise that is so inviting of ridicule.

It'll be interesting to see how this impacts the hiring of a GM and HC. Low expectations should be in order if Easterby is part of the process.

The McNair’s are easy to manipulate I see. Lol
 
those statements were the bare minimum to back a current employee. This article will be the talk of the NFL for weeks. SI has forced the Texans hand. This charlatan is going to be brought up by every GM and head coach candidate brought into interview. He can no longer hide in the shadows with his murky job title and amass power. His role has to be dealt with by the new Gm and coach. Hopefully they will both see that there is no room for Easterby with the Texans
I know these NFL jobs are coveted. But after reading that article, why would any highly regarded HC or GM candidate take this job?
 
Let's see the Sunshiners pump this one up. :spin:

Easterby has clearly manipulated his way to power and influence within this franchise in Bob McNair's absence. Apparently Janice and Cal need it, or they would not tolerate some BS "character coach" or "morality police" or whatever the heck he's supposed to be

Truth is that he's a power-hungry charlatan that is preying on the gullible rich. It would be a lot more amusing if it wasn't the team that I'm supposed to root for as a hometown kinda' guy. It's tough to care about a franchise that is so inviting of ridicule.

It'll be interesting to see how this impacts the hiring of a GM and HC. Low expectations should be in order if Easterby is part of the process.

Spot on

Snake oil salesman

Low expectations should be the order of the day.

Clusterfvck
 
Wasn't there a head coach for the KC Chiefs that was paranoid of being surveilled by management? He thought his office was bugged IIRC...wonder if there's an Easterby overlap :)

i looked it up just for fun...Tartuffe was the Chiefs' team chaplain 2011-2012 (still find it strange when large organisations bring religion into the workplace)

from Jan 2012

Todd Haley walked into the public relations office at Chiefs headquarters on a Thursday in early December. Four days before he was fired as the team’s coach, he wanted to talk about what life was like inside this organization. But he didn’t know who else might be listening.

Looking up toward the ceiling, he darted into a back hallway before hesitating. Then he turned around, going back through a door and stopping again. Haley suspected that many rooms at the team facility were bugged so that team administrators could monitor employees’ conversations. Stopping finally in a conference room, Haley said he believed his personal cellphone, a line he used before being hired by the Chiefs in 2009, had been tampered with.

Paranoid?
 
those statements were the bare minimum to back a current employee. This article will be the talk of the NFL for weeks. SI has forced the Texans hand. This charlatan is going to be brought up by every GM and head coach candidate brought into interview. He can no longer hide in the shadows with his murky job title and amass power. His role has to be dealt with by the new Gm and coach. Hopefully they will both see that there is no room for Easterby with the Texans

Any new prospective GM is going to ask what Easterby's role is. Cal will tell them. We'll see how it goes, but I don't think Cal is going to let them or SI dictate who is/isn't in his organization.
 

Yep, read it this morning between calls. To say it calls into question his bonafides is an understatement. It shows that Easterby has no business running football operations for anyone. It’s interesting that they worked the JJ Moses firing in there along with the changed communications policies. It’s creepy.

He honestly sounded like he was really good at being a chaplain and a sounding board for players and coaches alike, but anything beyond that exceeds his abilities.


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I just finished reading this "investigative" junk and frankly i'm not impressed. Next to 0 evidence presented about anything that could be considered worthy of this 10,000 word monstrosity. Its main premise is only that his rise was "unlikely"...which quite frankly i don't know if that's even an accurate characterization of it. The guy has been working in and around college and NFL football for over 10 years in various roles but mostly in 1 that wasn't really defined in the sport until recently. Further, there's no clear cut route to how any of these other front office guys rise to their positions much less GM. On 1 hand you have the guys who come up through the ranks as a scout, on the other, you have ex-ball players skipping over all that & getting VP of personnel gigs with no experience whatsoever. It's truly a double standard. Hell, KC's GM basically held no true position of power before ascending to their GM.

It just comes off as a hit piece where there's more innuendo of what im sure were cherry picked people "think" or "believed" happened versus what may or may not have actually went down. The article promises big things, but falls well short of it. All they said regarding the Hopkins trade is that 2 people overheard something that once again the sources tapped for this "believes" that they were talking about Nuk. And frankly those critcizing the dude who weren't willing to go on the record tells me more about what may be really going on out on Kirby than the article itself. It says to me that there's likely a bunch of folks he has interacted with over the years that are considered to be "football" people who at some point wound becoming threatened by the "non-football" guy & how he's been able to ascend without selling himself out...or obvious credentials. That's "suspcious" to them.

And even though the article goes through great pains to say that Amy Palcic declined to be part of the article, i truly believe she, or people she was close with that are still with the Texans & outside of it gave alot of this material to these guys. My reasoning behind that is that when BoB was fired, noone batted an eye..when she was fired, we've got national media guys chiming in with their thoughts & the local sports media in particular seems to have revved up their vitriol towards the dude. & They're doing this in the face of what's going on with the Rockets right now which quite frankly is way more newsworthy than what's going on with some obscure FO guy in the Texans org at this point.

bottom line for me is these investigative articles sensationalize everything and they very often misrepresent data and facts intentionally to mislead lay readers into believing something that may or may not necessarily be true. I have been apart of & seen the fallout from this type of work before & frankly its disturbing how these guys do this. All they need is 1 insider's viewpoint.
 
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I just finished reading this "investigative" junk and frankly i'm not impressed. Next to 0 evidence presented about anything that could be considered worthy of this 10,000 word monstrosity. Its main premise is only that his rise was "unlikely"...which quite frankly i don't know if that's even an accurate characterization of it. The guy has been working in and around college and NFL football for over 10 years in various roles but mostly in 1 that wasn't really defined in the sport until recently. Further, there's no clear cut route to how any of these other front office guys rise to their positions much less GM. On 1 hand you have the guys who come up through the ranks as a scout, on the other, you have ex-ball players skipping over all that & getting VP of personnel gigs with no experience whatsoever. It's truly a double standard. Hell, KC's GM basically held no true position of power before ascending to their GM.

It just comes off as a hit piece where there's more innuendo of what im sure were cherry picked people "think" or "believed" happened versus what may or may not have actually went down. The article promises big things, but falls well short of it. All they said regarding the Hopkins trade is that 2 people overheard something that once again the sources tapped for this "believes" that they were talking about Nuk. And frankly those critcizing the dude who weren't willing to go on the record tells me more about what may be really going on out on Kirby than the article itself. It says to me that there's likely a bunch of folks he has interacted with over the years that are considered to be "football" people who at some point wound becoming threatened by the "non-football" guy & how he's been able to ascend without selling himself out...or obvious credentials. That's "suspcious" to them.

And even though the article goes through great pains to say that Amy Palcic declined to be part of the article, i truly believe she, or people she was close with that are still with the Texans & outside of it gave alot of this material to these guys. My reasoning behind that is that when BoB was fired, noone batted an eye..when she was fired, we've got national media guys chiming in with their thoughts & the local sports media in particular seems to have revved up their vitriol towards the dude. & They're doing this in the face of what's going on with the Rockets right now which quite frankly is way more newsworthy than what's going on with some obscure FO guy in the Texans org at this point.

bottom line for me is these investigative articles sensationalize everything and they very often misrepresent data and facts intentionally to mislead lay readers into believing something that may or may not necessarily be true. I have been apart of & seen the fallout from this type of work before & frankly its disturbing how these guys do this. All they need is 1 insider's viewpoint.

Say what you want about the article but he's certainly not "some obscure FO guy" as you claim and this is the only org that he's been in that when given enough say he's burned it down hand in hand with BOB. I didn't read the 10 or 13 pager and I don't have to. I already know the guy is a snake that has been caught lying on his resume. He needs to go. Just MO
 
It just comes off as a hit piece
Pretty much what I thought. Wag the dog & it seems to have worked as expected judging by the response it has gotten on this board & on talk Radio.


& I just don’t get it. People, smart people, know this is what they do & they fall for it every time.

McNair responded, said what he said, still, they think something will change on Kirby.
 
Read the whole article. It will get some national run, but mainly because it also convers Easterbys time in NE.
I dunno, who knows how accurate the story is ?
 
Say what you want about the article but he's certainly not "some obscure FO guy" as you claim and this is the only org that he's been in that when given enough say he's burned it down hand in hand with BOB. I didn't read the 10 or 13 pager and I don't have to. I already know the guy is a snake that has been caught lying on his resume. He needs to go. Just MO


Please tell me what position he held in the Texans FO before it was announced he would be the interim GM and name me someone else in another organization who has the same title. And while you’re at it, tell me who held the position before him and what does that position in the FO even do. Everyone’s familiar with the title of VP of football ops, but no one can really tell you what the position does...much less another person with the same title with a different team. Why? B/c it varies from team to team...

There’s more than 1 potential reason for why it didn’t happen in other organizations vs. here. I suppose that if you wanted you could make the erroneous inference that he’s bad for your football org b/c every team he’s been with in the NFL had a major murder and/or tragedy happened with 1 of its players too. That Doesn’t make it a valid inference though.

But up until he was fired, the consensus was that BoB was the guy causing all this ruckus.... NOW, this article comes out & it’s suddenly “revealed” that it was Easterby who was the real mastermind behind it all...he’s the “lord Baelish” conning and slithering his way to the top in his ever-growing appetite for power! Well, that’s funny b/c that’s the same narrative the media here spun around BoB in the years leading up to him being fired....it was even parroted in the weeks after. Isn’t it funny how that narrative has all of a sudden shifted to Easterby now?

I think certain individuals were working under the assumption that when BoB was fired, Easterby would likely go with him b/c they wanted a full house cleaning. When that didn’t happen, folks...at least the media here lost their **** & have now turned their sights to Easterby.

And lol, there probably was some level of embellishment on his resume...but it was vetted by the article that he was in Jax’s front office in some capacity to the GM..and the article fails to prove that anything he may have had on his resume about that time was inaccurate. Jax certainly didn’t come out and say it was a lie. Aside from that, do you know how many people outright lie on their resumes?

I have no idea whether the guy is a charlatan or not, but this article certainly did nothing to convince me. As Steelb says it just comes off as sour grapes from some unnamed folks designed to play into what many not in the know already want to believe.

but you have it bro.
 
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LMAO at anyone that thinks Sports Illustrated is going to waste its time on a so-called "hit piece" for some doofus working for the Houston Texans.

Not everything in the article was bad about Easterby. He's probably been a positive influence in some people's lives, especially as a preacher man counselor.

But he lacks any credentials and expertise in the positions that he covets. That's not even debatable.

Occam's razor is logic and reason made simple, but some folks would rather pretzel themselves into some kind of illogical fallacy conspiracy to explain the simple. Have at it. You're the 0.01% that joins cults and believes the Earth is flat.
 
Please tell me what position he held in the Texans FO before it was announced he would be the interim GM and name me someone else in another organization who has the same title. And while you’re at it, tell me who held the position before him and what does that position in the FO even do. Everyone’s familiar with the title of VP of football ops, but no one can really tell you what the position does...much less another person with the same title with a different team. Why? B/c it varies from team to team...

There’s more than 1 potential reason for why it didn’t happen in other organizations vs. here. I suppose that if you wanted you could make the erroneous inference that he’s bad for your football org b/c every team he’s been with in the NFL had a major murder and/or tragedy happened with 1 of its players too. That Doesn’t make it a valid inference though.

But up until he was fired, the consensus was that BoB was the guy causing all this ruckus.... NOW, this article comes out & it’s suddenly “revealed” that it was Easterby who was the real mastermind behind it all...he’s the “lord Baelish” conning and slithering his way to the top in his ever-growing appetite for power! Well, that’s funny b/c that’s the same narrative the media here spun around BoB in the years leading up to him being fired....it was even parroted in the weeks after. Isn’t it funny how that narrative has all of a sudden shifted to Easterby now?

I think certain individuals were working under the assumption that when BoB was fired, Easterby would likely go with him b/c they wanted a full house cleaning. When that didn’t happen, folks...at least the media here lost their **** & have now turned their sights to Easterby.

And lol, there probably was some level of embellishment on his resume...but it was vetted by the article that he was in Jax’s front office in some capacity to the GM..and the article fails to prove that anything he may have had on his resume about that time was inaccurate. Jax certainly didn’t come out and say it was a lie. Aside from that, do you know how many people outright lie on their resumes?

I have no idea whether the guy is a charlatan or not, but this article certainly did nothing to convince me. As Steelb says it just comes off as sour grapes from some unnamed folks designed to play into what many not in the know already want to believe.

but you have it bro.
I concluded with just my opinion. I’m not going to debate the merit of that opinion with you, no use. He belongs nowhere near FB operations/personnel IMO and that was way before this article.
 
LMAO at anyone that thinks Sports Illustrated is going to waste its time on a so-called "hit piece" for some doofus working for the Houston Texans.

Not everything in the article was bad about Easterby. He's probably been a positive influence in some people's lives, especially as a preacher man counselor.

But he lacks any credentials and expertise in the positions that he covets. That's not even debatable.

Occam's razor is logic and reason made simple, but some folks would rather pretzel themselves into some kind of illogical fallacy conspiracy to explain the simple. Have at it. You're the 0.01% that joins cults and believes the Earth is flat.

Ocean’s Razor is a principle based on philosophy..not a law of the universe based on fact and is literally disproven a million times over ever single day.

And so what do you say of individuals who held or currently hold FO positions with no little to no executive experience like John Lynch? Did you hold him to the same standard? What about guys who only held mid management scouting jobs before they rose? What’s really your point beyond “derr, he’s not a football guy so he can’t possibly have any chops on how to do these jobs”.. it’s a nonsense argument really.

the only illogical fantasy is you believing that that article was designed to be anything more than a hit piece. Has nothing to do with whether the big great SI would “waste their time” on writing it. Credible articles of this type usually feature some kind of evidence and/or standard of proof beyond “they believe...”, this piece had next to none of that.

& you’d be underestimating the Levels journalists go to to sell a newspaper and/or mag too.

If the connections to certain individuals are tight enough and the “smoke” is enticing enough, damn right they’d look into it and write. Doesn’t at all mean that the **** they put out there is any more credible than someone writing for the Austin Statesman. This is the same mag that wrote an article on a controversial trade of Nuk and made that **** front cover. I don’t recall them writing any articles on the Tunsil or Khalil Mack trades which were just as huge. why? probably b/c it wasn’t juicy enough for them. SI ins’t The NY Times putting out crap like the swimsuit issue for all the pervs... at their core they look for the controversial b/c that’s what sells.

But to follow your theory of why they’d waste their time, ask yourself why were they even looking into this “doofus” of the lowly Houston Texans? There are plenty of organizations in pro sports that are a train wreck, why were they looking into him? Answer is b/c They obviously were prompted to by someone. and apparently they came up with just enough table scraps to reel you in.

Easterby may be a fake, back-stabbing, power-hungry turd of a human being. But that article, did nothing more than criticize the dude for not coming up through the traditional football ranks and being someone who did what almost everyone does; which is leverage their connects to get ahead....and the football heads hate it.
 
And lol, there probably was some level of embellishment on his resume...
Has anyone seen his resume?

I know what it said in HoustonTexans.com & that (I thought) was picked apart.

But did he tell the Texans that? Or did they embellish?
 
What's wrong with John Lynch having been a former top shelf player and champion who was always respected as a full on professional and intellect?

nothing at all. But it’s a double standard when the “experience” argument is rolled out against Easterby. yeah he played at a high level. So what. That doesn’t at all mean that he was able to run a team. Ask Micheal Jordan and the litany of great ex-players who’ve failed spectacularly in the FO. Lynch had no experience whatsoever to be able to skip to the front of the line of the GM candidate list. But people won’t question it, b/c they’ve had some early success. Was kinda the same for Elway. Come to think of it, those Stanford guys seem to really have the high up Connect’s big time lol.
 
What's wrong with John Lynch having been a former top shelf player and champion who was always respected as a full on professional and intellect?

Did he take any low level personnel position before going straight to GM? Was he a scout of any kind? Or did he just kick butt every year at Fantasy Football?

Same thing with Elway. He was hired as VP of football operations (or something like that) then usurped GM.

When he was hired, I asked what made him qualified? Only answer I got was that he owned car dealerships.

We see players all the time take assistant jobs, then position coaches, then coordinators, then maybe HC.

Why? Just go straight to GM.
 
nothing at all. But it’s a double standard when the “experience” argument is rolled out against Easterby. yeah he played at a high level. So what. That doesn’t at all mean that he was able to run a team. Ask Micheal Jordan. Lynch had none to be able to skip to the front of the line of the GM candidate list. But people won’t question it, b/c they’ve had some early success. Was kinda the same for Elway. Those Stanford guys seem to have the Connect’s big time lol.

Lynch's firsthand role in knowing and competing against player personnel is a jillion times more qualifying than anything Easterby's ever even lied about when it comes to being on the football ops side. Plus he's intelligent and articulent and a guy many people have come to trust on that end over many several years making contacts and building relationships.

It's really not just 'so what' when compared to the so called credentials of Jack Easterby called into question by the article.

What at all really has Easterby ever done to warrant his position?
 
Did he take any low level personnel position before going straight to GM? Was he a scout of any kind? Or did he just kick butt every year at Fantasy Football?

Same thing with Elway. He was hired as VP of football operations (or something like that) then usurped GM.

When he was hired, I asked what made him qualified? Only answer I got was that he owned car dealerships.

We see players all the time take assistant jobs, then position coaches, then coordinators, then maybe HC.

Why? Just go straight to GM.

You're acting like he hasn't made relationships through many several degrees of contact over many several years in the game with other personnel people and the subsequent vetting of his qualifications.
 
Lynch's firsthand role in knowing and competing against player personnel is a jillion times more qualifying than anything Easterby's ever even lied about when it comes to being on the football ops side. Plus he's intelligent and articulent and a guy many people have come to trust on that end over many several years making contacts and building relationships.

It's really not just 'so what' when compared to the so called credentials of Jack Easterby called into question by the article.

What at all really has Easterby ever done to warrant his position?

Your opinion, but it’s not rooted in any kind of empirical evidence at all considering none of it guarantees or is sure fire proof that he could do the job that he was tapped for out the gate any better than someone with none of that 1st hand knowledge....or a lot of it. And as we’ve seen, guys with all that experience working their way up the ladder flame out just as fast and spectacularly. Ryan Grigson, Phil Savage...Brian Gaine. The job isn’t a job where that knowledge is only attainable a certain way.

People here LOVED Morey as a GM. Dude was in effect a numbers cruncher before the Celtics and had little to no “1st hand knowledge” of player development.

I’m just not in the business of assuming a guy knows what he’s doing b/c he played the game on that level well and he’s “well spoken”. But I’ve got no problem with Lynch where he is, but the experience argument is lame when there are lots of guys in FO executive positions who didn’t really have a whole lot experience before they took over.
 
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