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I’m sure someone will blame WatsonThe question on all of our minds is, who can we blame for this?
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I’m sure someone will blame WatsonThe question on all of our minds is, who can we blame for this?
I have been really happy with Howard. I’m excited to see him develop over the years. Between Howard and Tunsil, we should have a monster set of bookends for the OL for at least the next decadeFor all the criticism that Howard sees for his performance, let's make note that as a rookie in all the time that he played, he was responsible for giving up 2 sacks and penalized 5 times for 32 yds.
I don’t think he’s received much criticism at all. Watson has received more criticism for holding the ball too long than the entire line has received for the sacks/hits he’s incurred.For all the criticism that Howard sees for his performance, let's make note that as a rookie in all the time that he played, he was responsible for giving up 2 sacks and penalized 5 times for 32 yds.
We all agree that Devlin should be gone. This is his 5th season (I think?). It's not like he had past success to deserve this much patience with him. Yes, I do place some blame on BOB for keeping Devlin around. The same way I placed blame on Kubiak for hiring bad DC after bad DC.Somehow I'm sure it's BOB's fault
Clear as mud is how I would describe the Texans organizational structure.Texans not planning to hire a GM for 2020
When the Texans' courtship of New England Patriots top executive Nick Caserio fell through this past offseason, the thought was simple: Houston would wait until after the draft and hire Caserio then. That does not appear to be the plan, anymore.
Sources say that the Texans plan to continue this offseason and beyond with their current personnel structure rather than hire a true general manager in title. Coach Bill O'Brien has final say, though he essentially works with the team's executive vice president of team development Jack Easterby to be in charge of football operations.
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There's no specific Howard bashing thread, but there has been significant criticism as to where he was picked and certainly criticism by some who have seen him as having regressed from the beginning of the season (not an accurate assessment in my opinion).I don’t think he’s received much criticism at all. Watson has received more criticism for holding the ball too long than the entire line has received for the sacks/hits he’s incurred.
Is there an entire Howard bashing thread I’ve overlooked?
The concern going forward for Tytus Howard is his health.
Understood and fair points. I guess I’ve been too focused on the Watson versus O’Brien stuff to notice recent criticism of Howard. I still think the criticism on where in the draft he was selected is valid. Many, including professional draft analyst, believed the Texans reached out of desperation. I think if the Texans had a capable GM they could have traded down (while adding a pick later in the draft) and still come away with Howard.There's no specific Howard bashing thread, but there has been significant criticism as to where he was picked and certainly criticism by some who have seen him as having regressed from the beginning of the season (not an accurate assessment in my opinion).
There's no specific Howard bashing thread, but there has been significant criticism as to where he was picked and certainly criticism by some who have seen him as having regressed from the beginning of the season (not an accurate assessment in my opinion).
Not going to bother looking it up, but my memory tells me differentNobody has bashed him like that. Only one member said a few things in regards to both hom and Scharping not playing that great. But nobody has criticized him in that manner.
I wasn't bashing Tytus, but I was one that believed he was playing worse post-injury compared to pre-injury.Not going to bother looking it up, but my memory tells me different
They've been doing it all year, a new costume every week, whether on the road or homeHaving a little deja vu..hopefully this SWAT thing isn't letterman jacket 2.0
Do you ever feel like you are repeating yourself?They've been doing it all year, a new costume every week, whether on the road or home
Huh. Maybe there's actually something to that?On the flip side of that, they've played 8 games against teams that are 20th in scoring and worse, and half of those are against 3 of the 5 lowest scoring teams in the league.
They've only played 3 games against teams currently with a winning record. Struggled with one (Bills) but still won, got blown up by the Ravens, and crushed the Steelers.
I'm not about to say their D isn't good, or hasn't really been challenged (other than B-more, and I guess Dallas), because Gilmore is the real deal, but they really haven't played anybody.
How's that for trying to convince myself the Texans have a chance?
Tytus Howard has DEFINITELY regressed. Once the coaching staff pulled their heads out of their asses and figured out that "hey the tackle we drafted to play tackle isnt really playing good as a guard, but guess what he actually plays really good as a tackle!!" epiphany hashed itself out Howard flourished. He was at or near the top of the LEAGUE in RT stats, until the injury bug hit I GUESS or maybe the rookie wall. Either way its not accurate to say he hasnt regessed because the simple grading analytics would disagree. After watching him play AS A RIGHT TACKLE I feel better about his career arc. Poor Brian Gaine - sacrificed for the sins of Bill OBrien LOL.There's no specific Howard bashing thread, but there has been significant criticism as to where he was picked and certainly criticism by some who have seen him as having regressed from the beginning of the season (not an accurate assessment in my opinion).
Disagree with that list a bit. I think our strengths are QB, Receivers, and the interior defense (Reader, McKinney, Cunningham).Would anyone have guessed the strengths of the team would be:
Corner
Safety
Running backs
Offensive Line
Wide Receiver
Our pass rush would look better with JJ Watt back.
Just need to put the pieces together.
Disagree with that list a bit. I think our strengths are QB, Receivers, and the interior defense (Reader, McKinney, Cunningham).
Secondary & OL are MUCH improved, but wouldn't consider them a team strength. I think our OL is actually just mediocre, but that is MUCH improved compared to last season.
Sorry. I should have typed some of our strengths and not the strengths implying that was the only ones.Disagree with that list a bit. I think our strengths are QB, Receivers, and the interior defense (Reader, McKinney, Cunningham).
Secondary & OL are MUCH improved, but wouldn't consider them a team strength. I think our OL is actually just mediocre, but that is MUCH improved compared to last season.
Bwahahaha!As you can see they left out the QB position. I wonder why
This is your opinion and I respect it.Sorry. I should have typed some of our strengths and not the strengths implying that was the only ones.
However - i think our secondary and OL are strengths of this team.
You can multiple areas of strengths.
Im confused how a guy can say cornerback is a strength of this team when 2 out of 5 were just acquired within the last month. One guy has been hurt half the year, we have a rookie flag machine, and the other guy has to take arthritis meds before every game, and rolls into the stadium in a mobility scooter! If you look up the defensive grades for the HOU DBs you would probably be shocked - and NOT in a good way!This is your opinion and I respect it.
I definitely am happy about the improvement of the OL and I think alot of pieces are in place for pro-longed success. I think they still struggle against blitzes, stunts, and simply aren't very good run blocking right now. As good as our offense was last night, the RBs only ran the ball 2.9ypc.
I'm more bullish on the secondary, though. Very worried about Reid's shoulder holding up.
It’s almost as crazy as saying a college QB who has never played a down in the NFL is the next Michael Jordan of football and proclaiming him jesusincleats when he hasn’t even won a playoff game.Im confused how a guy can say cornerback is a strength of this team when 2 out of 5 were just acquired within the last month.
I'm not sure how recently acquired talent means they aren't good? I don't care when they got here as long as they produce. It's true 2 have been often injured. Another has likely lost a step and another is a rookie with early season growing pains.Im confused how a guy can say cornerback is a strength of this team when 2 out of 5 were just acquired within the last month. One guy has been hurt half the year, we have a rookie flag machine, and the other guy has to take arthritis meds before every game, and rolls into the stadium in a mobility scooter! If you look up the defensive grades for the HOU DBs you would probably be shocked - and NOT in a good way!
Healthy is better I guess. I mean if you find 1st round draft picks on the trash heap there is a reason for it. Using future 3rd round picks on past 1st round busts hoping YOU can get the most out of them is wishful thinking, but hope is all you have at times I suppose.I'm not sure how recently acquired talent means they aren't good? I don't care when they got here as long as they produce. It's true 2 have been often injured. Another has likely lost a step and another is a rookie with early season growing pains.
It really doesn't matter.
A full compliment of reid, gipson, Robey,Joseph, Conley, Hargreaves, and Lonnie looks pretty to me.
I actually think gipson is the most underrated of the bunch. I know there are literally zero splash plays out of him ,but he soaks up a lot or real estate and is always in to assist.
I pretty much agree with everything you said on tunsil. I pretty much disagree with everything you said about our secondary...
I imagine if you see Tom Brady's production and side line temper tantrum you'll understand his feeling on the topic.
Got a link to that? As far as I remember it was Dabo that called him Jordan in cleats but I may he wrong.It’s almost as crazy as saying a college QB who has never played a down in the NFL is the next Michael Jordan of football and proclaiming him jesusincleats when he hasn’t even won a playoff game.
Edit: forgot the bwahahaha!
Reading the posts from this board prior to the draft, post draft, and after last weeks win.Got a link to that? As far as I remember it was Dabo that called him Jordan in cleats but I may he wrong.
Excerpt from article from Sports Illustrated 1/24/2017.Reading the posts from this board prior to the draft, post draft, and after last weeks win.
I bet I could find commentators saying the same thing.
https://www.houstontexans.com/video/exclusive-watson-players-give-game-ball-to-bill-o-brienDoes anyone have the video of O'Brien getting the gameball? Or a link? The video posted on TexansTalk was from Twitter and when I try to open twitter videos, it says "video can't be played in your browser"
Any suggestions? I can't watch any videos that are linked though twitter. Suggestions?
Also, I did an internet search and didn't find the video.
[QUOTE="Speedy, post: 3023339, member: 169"]link to video
But if I remember, it was from twitter, and I couldn't get it to open.I posted in the game thread a few days ago.
damn its almost like he could have done a good job as a LT and maybe saved the team 2 first round picks and 100Ms of upcoming salary!?!?For all the criticism that Howard sees for his performance, let's make note that as a rookie in all the time that he played, he was responsible for giving up 2 sacks and penalized 5 times for 32 yds.
We could be #1 if we pulled our head out in the 1st quarter!
damnit .. how I can I spin this so that it looks like Deshaun is solely responsible!!??
Here's where I give the entire offensive coaching staff their props .. starting with OBrien. I wish I could pin this post or something for all the times I'll get accused of trashing OBrien without ever giving him his due. Nice to see this surfing around.