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Trent Williams LT Available

IDEXAN said:
You know the word is he's only finished two seasons in his whole 10 year carer and neither is in the last 5 years and he's 31 years old wih PED issues, so he's past his prime, on the backside of his career, over the hill, or whatever we choose to call it.
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Give me 10 games so the young guys can get ready. Front load the first 2 yrs of the new contract you sign him too.

Watson's healthy is worth the investment. LT's of his caliber very rarely become available and Watson isn't due for 2 more yrs. You will lose Clowney after this yr, but that's the price you have to pay to protect Watson.
 
Washed up huh? Lol

Another year, another selection on NFL Network’s “Top 100 Players” list.

For the sixth straight year, Washington Redskins tackle Trent Williams has been named to the Top 100 Players list, checking in at No. 57 on this year’s edition.

Williams was first named to the “Top 100 Players” list, which is selected based on current player votes, at No. 99 in 2013 and has since remained a mainstay on the annual countdown.


https://www.redskins.com/news/trent-williams-named-to-top-100-players-list-for-sixth-straight-year
How’s that for a dose of reality?
 
IDEXAN said:
Well he will be 31 when they tee it up in September, so that's the same thing.
OK so what do you think the Texans should do re MR Trent Williams ? Do nothing and stand pat with their current plan at LT for 2019 or approach the Redskins and offer them what kind of consideration in a trade for their LT ?
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It's worth a phone call. No more than a 2nd.

steelbtexan said:
Give me 10 games so the young guys can get ready. Front load the first 2 yrs of the new contract you sign him too.
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He's already under contract for the next 2 years ($11.2 & $12.75 cap hits if traded). If you trade for him you ride him out. Scharping can move to G & Howard play RT.
 
infantrycak said:
It's worth a phone call. No more than a 2nd.



He's already under contract for the next 2 years ($11.2 & $12.75 cap hits if traded). If you trade for him you ride him out. Scharping can move to G & Howard play RT.
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This is the plan I really, really like. My only question would be would Texans still have the cap room to do right by Clowney?
 
Have to post this


Despite being bothered by the knee injury, Williams was still one of the very best tackles in the league last season.

According to ProFootballFocus.com, Williams did not allow a single sack in his 10 starts.

On top of that, the Oklahoma product has allowed the fewest pressures since the start of the 2015 season amongst tackles who have recorded at least 1,200 pass block snaps.

Williams would be selected to his sixth consecutive Pro Bowl for his efforts, joining Pro Football Hall of Famer Ken Houston and Redskins Ring of Fame member Len Hauss as the only members of the Redskins to earn six consecutive selections into the annual all-star game.


Same link is above post
 
281Texan said:
I’ll start with this. This whole looking for the certain type of physical appearance from a player is something Bill is enamored with, and something that I believe is the stupidest thing on earth. I want football players on my football team. I don’t care what they look like when they get off the bus. Is it good for a corner to be long? Sure. That’s obvuously a plus. But some of the all time greats didn’t have that. It’s how they play. Last year, our interior pass rush generated nothing. Why not kick the tires on Gerald McCoy? I mean can a 1 year partially guaranteed deal REALLY kill us? It’s not like we don’t have money in the bank.

Which leads me to my next point. We have all that money and get outbid by a divisional rival for an all pro guard. Let HB walk (that was smart, he was too expensive) but settle for tashaun Gipson. Don’t even really attempt to get Earl Thomas or another difference maker. Roby is iffy at best. We’ll see. Bottom line, you get passed up by the colts. Your franchise QB is on a rookie deal, and you have a ton of money to play with. And you bring in guys like Matt Kalil. I’m sorry, I don’t get it. Not like the guys Jeff luhnow and has every right to play that game. Gaine’s only accomplishment to date is drafting Justin Reid.
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You completely missed my point, everything you are saying is part of the plan in your mind of how they should do it. That’s fine and I’m not saying it’s a bad plan but you can’t understand what they are doing because you are basing it on your plan. If you look at it from the perspective of what their plan is that they have been talking about since Gaine got there it all makes sense.

That’s not saying it’s good just that it makes sense.

281Texan said:
Also, no. If Dillard busts and Howard works out that means nothing for phillys front office as they are notorious for developing great OL’s, Howie has won a super bowl, has been aggressive while wentz is on a rookie deal, and has proven to be a legit GM. Gaine doesn’t have that luxury yet
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Gaine has also only had one partial and one full draft to work with. So in your mind if Gaine busts on his first ever 1st round draft pick then they should clean house. Yet if Roseman misses with his, what 8th draft now, then it’s ok. Man you’d be hard to work for.

Oh by the way Roseman in his first draft traded that years 1st and two 3rds from 2011 to move up and draft Brandon Graham who has had 42 sacks in a 10 year career and never had a double digit season. To get him he passed on Earl Thomas and Jason Pierre-Paul in the draft.
 
welcome to the FFFLD ...

fans fantasy football league of dreamers

show me something that indicates that Washington is putting him on the market
 
Texecutioner said:
I'd totally get this guy. If he is only under contract for this year and next year then that is a nice deal to me. Yeah, you're paying a lot for him, but if he is healthy he should play very well being revitalized on a new team with a great young QB. And now the Texans would be collecting Oline depth with their rookie draft picks and wouldn't be so forced to throw them in the fire in all of the tough situations as much. Would I trade Clowney for him? Absolutely. Texans aren't going to pay max dollars to Clowney like some other stupid team will, so them not trading Clowney at this point has been stupid. Also people are not realizing that trading for Clowney for another team is also very risky, because they don't know if he'll resign there.

This is the Texans though. They'll stand pat and build through the draft as always and likely get nothing for Clowney before he leaves for free agency.
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Honestly I think they have tried to trade him but it doesn’t seem like anyone is biting. I don’t know if the offers aren’t good enough, Clowney is wanting to much or if it’s just a case of none of the other teams have a serious interest in him. I have no proof of this, just a gut feeling, but I really don’t think the market was as good as Clowney or the Texans expected and now they are both in kind of limbo because the Texans don’t want to pay him and have the tag to use but Clowney doesn’t want to risk getting injured while playing on a tag.
 
maverick512000 said:
You completely missed my point, everything you are saying is part of the plan in your mind of how they should do it. That’s fine and I’m not saying it’s a bad plan but you can’t understand what they are doing because you are basing it on your plan. If you look at it from the perspective of what their plan is that they have been talking about since Gaine got there it all makes sense.

That’s not saying it’s good just that it makes sense.



Gaine has also only had one partial and one full draft to work with. So in your mind if Gaine busts on his first ever 1st round draft pick then they should clean house. Yet if Roseman misses with his, what 8th draft now, then it’s ok. Man you’d be hard to work for.

Oh by the way Roseman in his first draft traded that years 1st and two 3rds from 2011 to move up and draft Brandon Graham who has had 42 sacks in a 10 year career and never had a double digit season. To get him he passed on Earl Thomas and Jason Pierre-Paul in the draft.
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I get it. He wants to build through the draft and find value in free agency. I get that part. That makes sense to me for the most part. I don't want to be one of those teams that throws around tons of money at bad contracts. My strategy would be similar to John Dorsey's. And right now I think he's the best GM in football. You take the laughing stock of the league and you get your QB. Then you surround your QB with weapons. We've done that for the most part. Gaine has Nuk, Fuller, Coutee. But where GREAT GM's excel from the status Quo ones is they truly find the value players. What Kareem Hunt did was awful, and yes, he's not for everybody. But bringing in a top 5 RB with no risk is a great move. Especially when you struck gold in the 2nd round the year before at the same position. That's going to be the scariest 1-2 punch in the league next year after his suspension is lifted. Then he brings in a top 5 WR to go with probably the best WR2 in football. Then he finds value in Greedy dropping to the 2nd to go with his pro bowl CB he drafted last year. That's part of the problem with the Texans. We're okay with being just okay. And that's what I don't get. We're close, no doubt, but we're wasting our core's valuable time. The time to maximize our window is now. And if that means trading a middle round pick for a bookend LT, then you do it. Plain and simple. If he never plays a down, you're out a 3rd. Oh well.

I'm not saying Gaine is a bad GM, he just hasn't warranted the benefit of the doubt yet. If we have a bad year, which looks that say since we actually have a tough schedule for once in OB's coaching career, then yes I do think Gaine's seat needs to heat up a little bit. Put it this way, unless Tytus and/or Scharping can start and lock down a position from Day 1, I don't think we got better as a football team from last year to this year. And with a ton of money to spend, that makes me sick. Before long Deshaun is going to sign that next huge deal and we're only going to be able to build from the draft. You don't get luxuries like this often. That's why the Chiefs are doing everything they can to load up, and same with the Browns. And what do you know, the Chiefs are regularly one of the leagues better teams, and have a very very real shot at winning the Super Bowl this year, while we sit at the 18th best odds.

In a more unrealistic approach, I want the McNair's gone. I want OB gone. I want people who care more about winning championships then selling tickets and public perception. I want guys who are going to take chances to get to the next level over being content with meaningless AFC South Championship banners (those shouldn't even be a thing. It's been the worst division in football for a while). We're not going to trade for Trent, and we won't try. We're going to go through this season, probably end up 7-9, filled with OB saying he has to coach better, and then rinse and repeat.
 
JB said:
Thank God you have no say in how the Texans are run
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Lol I'll tell you this much. We may win, we may lose. But we will not sit on our hands. I would never not bring in a player because of how it may impact my public perception with other business ventures. I would never be concerned with the bottom line more so than the success of the team. I would bring in bonafied, legitimate scouts, and trust their judgement over my personal ego. I would be aggressive with the building of my team especially while my franchise QB is on his rookie deal. And lastly, I wouldn't allow a coach who clearly is in over his head to continue coaching just because he won the worst division in football. And at the end of the day, I feel like that's all you can ask for.

Also, which part did you disagree with, in particular?
 
AngryNateFTW said:
Desmond Harrison who started at LT in the first 8 games for the Browns was just waived. Has some personal stuff he needs to take care of.

Find out what those things are and put in a claim for him all while kicking the tires on Trent Williams.

If Howard is best suited at RT and Scharping is best suited for G then we need to inquire about these 2.

Also Trent for Clowney is dumb and makes no sense.
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Scharping at G? I haven't heard that one yet. Personally I think Scharping is a better LT while Howard would be a better RT. But of course management has them practicing at every position outside of QB and Kicker so it's going to be hard for them to solidify 1
 
I'm essentially with Cak. I'd offer up a 2nd rounder - WELL worth a 2nd round pick. I'd be shy about trading Clowney straight up but I'd at least give some consideration because protecting Watson is job #1, #2, and #3 as far as I'm concerned, and the plan seems to be to throw small school rookies to the wolves.

That's a freaking joke. That's their actual plan. It's laughable how poorly this team is run by BoGaine.

Of course, since it makes complete and total sense, Gaine will just sit on his hands and play Words with friends on his iPhone.
 
Porky said:
I'm essentially with Cak. I'd offer up a 2nd rounder - WELL worth a 2nd round pick. I'd be shy about trading Clowney straight up but I'd at least give some consideration because protecting Watson is job #1, #2, and #3 as far as I'm concerned, and the plan seems to be to throw small school rookies to the wolves.

That's a freaking joke. That's their actual plan. It's laughable how poorly this team is run by BoGaine.

Of course, since it makes complete and total sense, Gaine will just sit on his hands and play Words with friends on his iPhone.
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The offense is laughably bad. The defense fine. The problem is obrien.

I don't see Clowney playing for the Texans this year. They are too far apart. They have already shopped him anyway.
 
TheKDog said:
The offense is laughably bad. The defense fine. The problem is obrien.

I don't see Clowney playing for the Texans this year. They are too far apart. They have already shopped him anyway.
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Defense is not fine, they sh!t the bed just as bad as the offense when it mattered most last year. Take off your “everything is BoBs fault” glasses a minute and you’d see that.

Oh and don’t start with how they were top 10 or whatever. If division championships and winning seasons mean nothing then neither does what your group was ranked. When you can’t stop a game winning drive when the offense has put 30 points on the board and thus secure the second seed and then in the first playoff game let the team go 14 in the hole within 5 minutes then you’re just as much a part of the problem as the offense.
 
281Texan said:
I get it. He wants to build through the draft and find value in free agency. I get that part. That makes sense to me for the most part. I don't want to be one of those teams that throws around tons of money at bad contracts. My strategy would be similar to John Dorsey's. And right now I think he's the best GM in football. You take the laughing stock of the league and you get your QB. Then you surround your QB with weapons. We've done that for the most part. Gaine has Nuk, Fuller, Coutee. But where GREAT GM's excel from the status Quo ones is they truly find the value players. What Kareem Hunt did was awful, and yes, he's not for everybody. But bringing in a top 5 RB with no risk is a great move. Especially when you struck gold in the 2nd round the year before at the same position. That's going to be the scariest 1-2 punch in the league next year after his suspension is lifted. Then he brings in a top 5 WR to go with probably the best WR2 in football. Then he finds value in Greedy dropping to the 2nd to go with his pro bowl CB he drafted last year. That's part of the problem with the Texans. We're okay with being just okay. And that's what I don't get. We're close, no doubt, but we're wasting our core's valuable time. The time to maximize our window is now. And if that means trading a middle round pick for a bookend LT, then you do it. Plain and simple. If he never plays a down, you're out a 3rd. Oh well.

I'm not saying Gaine is a bad GM, he just hasn't warranted the benefit of the doubt yet. If we have a bad year, which looks that say since we actually have a tough schedule for once in OB's coaching career, then yes I do think Gaine's seat needs to heat up a little bit. Put it this way, unless Tytus and/or Scharping can start and lock down a position from Day 1, I don't think we got better as a football team from last year to this year. And with a ton of money to spend, that makes me sick. Before long Deshaun is going to sign that next huge deal and we're only going to be able to build from the draft. You don't get luxuries like this often. That's why the Chiefs are doing everything they can to load up, and same with the Browns. And what do you know, the Chiefs are regularly one of the leagues better teams, and have a very very real shot at winning the Super Bowl this year, while we sit at the 18th best odds.

In a more unrealistic approach, I want the McNair's gone. I want OB gone. I want people who care more about winning championships then selling tickets and public perception. I want guys who are going to take chances to get to the next level over being content with meaningless AFC South Championship banners (those shouldn't even be a thing. It's been the worst division in football for a while). We're not going to trade for Trent, and we won't try. We're going to go through this season, probably end up 7-9, filled with OB saying he has to coach better, and then rinse and repeat.
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Biggest bunch of conjecture ever. Just because BG’s plan isn’t yours he should have his seat heat up a little? RS was here for ten freaking years because he could swing his golf club in his office like that was his job. He and Kubes had a LOSING record with monumental embarrassments along the way with zero sign of it ever changing. McNair was begging to be taught about football and he died “learning” ten years of that disaster? Here is a plan. Have more than a one year of an instant gratification issue. Is our ST’s worse after one year? How about the TE, OL, yes the OL, and S position. New OC. Got one. Great QB coach. Got one. What really concerns you? Oh, and BG, OB and the McNairs will be here for a while. Enjoy the ride because I damn sure see positive changes around here.
 
maverick512000 said:
Defense is not fine, they sh!t the bed just as bad as the offense when it mattered most last year. Take off your “everything is BoBs fault” glasses a minute and you’d see that.

Oh and don’t start with how they were top 10 or whatever. If division championships and winning seasons mean nothing then neither does what your group was ranked. When you can’t stop a game winning drive when the offense has put 30 points on the board and thus secure the second seed and then in the first playoff game let the team go 14 in the hole within 5 minutes then you’re just as much a part of the problem as the offense.
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maverick512000 said:
Defense is not fine, they sh!t the bed just as bad as the offense when it mattered most last year. Take off your “everything is BoBs fault” glasses a minute and you’d see that.

Oh and don’t start with how they were top 10 or whatever. If division championships and winning seasons mean nothing then neither does what your group was ranked. When you can’t stop a game winning drive when the offense has put 30 points on the board and thus secure the second seed and then in the first playoff game let the team go 14 in the hole within 5 minutes then you’re just as much a part of the problem as the offense.
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They were top 10 by various metrics. Your memory or feels are not really a reliable way to measure how the units performed.

By objective measures, the offense sucked and the defense was pretty good. It's been the same story since OBrien and Crennel got here.

Obfuscating that reality by bringing up that one game or saying a loss is a loss doesn't change that fact.
 
TheKDog said:
The defense has succeeded far more than it has failed. Offense opposite.
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When Watt is healthy they have succeeded without not so much. If Gaine wanted to truly get Deshaun bodyguard’s then it’s really a no brainer. Texans would have dominant OL overnight and Watson could really settle in and become elite.
 
infantrycak said:
Well in his HC hat he's responsible for both sides of the ball.
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I agree 100% with this. The problem I have is some people on here are happy to blame him for the failures but not give any credit for any success. Offense scores points its the talent of Watson/Hopkins/Etc. or defense does good and its all RAC. I agree the buck stops with BoB for the crap but you have to give the devil his due as well.
 
TheKDog said:
They were top 10 by various metrics. Your memory or feels are not really a reliable way to measure how the units performed.

By objective measures, the offense sucked and the defense was pretty good. It's been the same story since OBrien and Crennel got here.

Obfuscating that reality by bringing up that one game or saying a loss is a loss doesn't change that fact.
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Lol my memory or "feels", whatever the hell that is, have nothing to do with it. You like to go on and on about how division championships and winning seasons don't matter well top 10 doesn't matter if you can't stop the play when it matters most. KC had the top rated offense but guess what, it didn't matter once the Pats knocked them out.

Oh and that "one game" cost us the second seed and the other "one game" put us 14 points in the hole in the playoff game.
 
maverick512000 said:
I agree 100% with this. The problem I have is some people on here are happy to blame him for the failures but not give any credit for any success. Offense scores points its the talent of Watson/Hopkins/Etc. or defense does good and its all RAC. I agree the buck stops with BoB for the crap but you have to give the devil his due as well.
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As long as you admit the offense has been mediocre for 5 years and the defense has been good for 4 out of 5 years then I'll give obrien credit for being smart enough to hire Crennel and get out of his way.
 
TheKDog said:
The defense has succeeded far more than it has failed. Offense opposite.
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No argument, but the defense failed in critical times late, most of the offense failures were early
 
beerlover said:
When Watt is healthy they have succeeded without not so much. If Gaine wanted to truly get Deshaun bodyguard’s then it’s really a no brainer. Texans would have dominant OL overnight and Watson could really settle in and become elite.
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The defense was very good in 2016 without Watt. He only missed 2 years.
 
TheKDog said:
As long as you admit the offense has been mediocre for 5 years and the defense has been good for 4 out of 5 years then I'll give obrien credit for being smart enough to hire Crennel and get out of his way.
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I will agree with this with one caveat and that is draft wise we have spent more capital on the defense with Watt and then Clowney with the number 1 overall. Now that being said BoB absolutely sucks as an OC and I wish he would hire a real one and not use it to pad his students resume.

I'll give you a bonus, I blame him for most of our QB problems. No one could have predicted how bad the Blunder of OZ would be but Hoyer and Mallet were BoB's chosen ones. Don't even get me started on Savage, no one in the NFL should be that bad their third year in the same system without someone realizing it. For all his mistakes I give RS sole credit for Watson and get a franchise QB of Waston's ceiling almost makes up for the mistakes.
 
Dejaview said:
Biggest bunch of conjecture ever. Just because BG’s plan isn’t yours he should have his seat heat up a little? RS was here for ten freaking years because he could swing his golf club in his office like that was his job. He and Kubes had a LOSING record with monumental embarrassments along the way with zero sign of it ever changing. McNair was begging to be taught about football and he died “learning” ten years of that disaster? Here is a plan. Have more than a one year of an instant gratification issue. Is our ST’s worse after one year? How about the TE, OL, yes the OL, and S position. New OC. Got one. Great QB coach. Got one. What really concerns you? Oh, and BG, OB and the McNairs will be here for a while. Enjoy the ride because I damn sure see positive changes around here.
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Dude I was the damn conductor of the fire rick smith train. I don’t like Gaine’s moves thus far. Seems cut from the same OB cloth except he’s obsessed with his former players from buffalo, like they’ve been such a marquee franchise over the years. I don’t like OB. I don’t like the McNair’s, and I’m on the fence about Gaine but the needle is trending negatively. He has his own plan, or even worse he’s playing out the McNair’s, and thus far, i don’t believe in it. We’ll see in 5 years. Maybe the talent on this team can overcome the front offices short comings. Who knows
 
maverick512000 said:
Lol my memory or "feels", whatever the hell that is, have nothing to do with it. You like to go on and on about how division championships and winning seasons don't matter well top 10 doesn't matter if you can't stop the play when it matters most. KC had the top rated offense but guess what, it didn't matter once the Pats knocked them out.

Oh and that "one game" cost us the second seed and the other "one game" put us 14 points in the hole in the playoff game.
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When did I say those don't matter?

"KC had a top offense and lost, so hire me and my crappy offense." - O'Brien in a future job interview using your logic.

The playoff game where the offense only scored 7 points and that was in the 4th quarter? Lol.
 
maverick512000 said:
I will agree with this with one caveat and that is draft wise we have spent more capital on the defense with Watt and then Clowney with the number 1 overall. Now that being said BoB absolutely sucks as an OC and I wish he would hire a real one and not use it to pad his students resume.

I'll give you a bonus, I blame him for most of our QB problems. No one could have predicted how bad the Blunder of OZ would be but Hoyer and Mallet were BoB's chosen ones. Don't even get me started on Savage, no one in the NFL should be that bad their third year in the same system without someone realizing it. For all his mistakes I give RS sole credit for Watson and get a franchise QB of Waston's ceiling almost makes up for the mistakes.
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Yes, agree with this post
 
TheKDog said:
When did I say those don't matter?

"KC had a top offense and lost, so hire me and my crappy offense." - O'Brien in a future job interview using your logic.

The playoff game where the offense only scored 7 points and that was in the 4th quarter? Lol.
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My point was that having a top 10 anything doesn't matter at the end of the season. Its about who is holding the trophy. And I'm not saying the offense was good in that game, in fact I said everyone sh!t the bed, but the pressure of going 14 in the hole in the first five minutes on a rookie QB, injured WR group and, yes, limited play calling certainly didn't help.
 
281Texan said:
Scharping at G? I haven't heard that one yet. Personally I think Scharping is a better LT while Howard would be a better RT. But of course management has them practicing at every position outside of QB and Kicker so it's going to be hard for them to solidify 1
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He's currently practicing at guard.
 
JB said:
Did you watch the Philly game and the playoff game?
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Remembering a couple games isn't thorough data
maverick512000 said:
My point was that having a top 10 anything doesn't matter at the end of the season. Its about who is holding the trophy. And I'm not saying the offense was good in that game, in fact I said everyone sh!t the bed, but the pressure of going 14 in the hole in the first five minutes on a rookie QB, injured WR group and, yes, limited play calling certainly didn't help.
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And this is the defense of O'Brien? It wasn't just the offense it was everybody
 
Texecutioner said:
...but if he is healthy he should play very well being revitalized on a new team with a great young QB.
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If he is healthy.


I'd love to know what's really going on in Washington. Doesn't make sense to me for a well paid veteran to make demands with 2 years left on a deal. I know it happens. Still. I'd approach with caution.

What's up with Williams & Washington's medical staff? Did he play through some injury last season on bad advice from the staff? Is he going to be ready to play week 1? Will he be ready for full participation in training camp?

What do we not know about this situation?

If Washington was concerned about life after Williams I'd include Davenport, Kalil, Henderson, &/or Rankin to Clowney or future draft picks.

But before I get too worked up with Madden trades, I need more information.
 
281Texan said:
I would never not bring in a player because of how it may impact my public perception with other business ventures
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In this situation the player is not available & may never be. Just because the player "demands" a trade doesn't mean he's available.
 
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maverick512000 said:
Defense is not fine, they sh!t the bed just as bad as the offense when it mattered most last year. Take off your “everything is BoBs fault” glasses a minute and you’d see that.

Oh and don’t start with how they were top 10 or whatever. If division championships and winning seasons mean nothing then neither does what your group was ranked. When you can’t stop a game winning drive when the offense has put 30 points on the board and thus secure the second seed and then in the first playoff game let the team go 14 in the hole within 5 minutes then you’re just as much a part of the problem as the offense.
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So much happens in between it all brother. When your offense decides to go ultra predictable thinking they have the game won. Resulting in several three and outs. You end up putting so much on the defense. The defense ends up gassed and, "BAM" the opposing team scores. We seen this a lot during Bill O'Brien era. Lol shoots we can be up 3 going into the 4th. And ole Bill will continue to run the ball up the middle like we're up 20.

I said all of that to say the Bill O'brien's philosophy in that type of situation bleeps all over the defense.
Our defense has caused several back to back three and outs just to see our offense go three and out to.
 
thunderkyss said:
If he is healthy.


I'd love to know what's really going on in Washington. Doesn't make sense to me for a well paid veteran to make demands with 2 years left on a deal. I know it happens. Still. I'd approach with caution.

What's up with Williams & Washington's medical staff? Did he play through some injury last season on bad advice from the staff? Is he going to be ready to play week 1? Will he be ready for full participation in training camp?

What do we not know about this situation?

If Washington was concerned about life after Williams I'd include Davenport, Kalil, Henderson, &/or Rankin to Clowney or future draft picks.

But before I get too worked up with Madden trades, I need more information.
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It won't happen either way TK. I was mainly just giving my take for conversation sake. Hypothetically, I would love to have that guy. His contract commitment is only this year and the next. They can easily absorb that while their rookies develop and play alongside.

thunderkyss said:
I'm impressed this thread has 5 pages of posts, started at noon.

& we know it ain't going to happen.
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I've been waiting for everyone to punch themselves out in this thread, like a ring full of exhausted heavyweights.

My worth-very-little opinion is that Trent Williams won't end up here. Either Washington will find a way to patch up things with him or several teams will get into a bidding war like drunks at a rare car auction, meaning his ultimate cost will go way up and be more than the Texans will pay. Put it in the bank.
 
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beerlover said:
How often do you get a chance to redo a wrong, signed Duane Brown.
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Maybe not all that often, but that's not a good basis upon which to make future personnel decisions. It does make for a very nice sound bite, though.
 
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