Because what you quoted was talking this spring, not last year. Did you even read it mr. negative?
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Because what you quoted was talking this spring, not last year. Did you even read it mr. negative?
Dejaview
All Pro
I’d say DW’s stats next to Brees easily beat the rest. And behind that OL.
ATXtexanfan
Hall of Fame
Really seemed the colts in general had DW4 on tilt last two games against him. Playoff game wasnt a suprise.
This year the colts are the favorite in division. I like that personally. Texans know they have to work this offseason. Titans ain't no punk and Jacksonville has a legit qb. AFC south up for grabs.
DW4 will figure it out. Not sure if he will be best QB in division but I do believe he will throw down with anyone.
This year the colts are the favorite in division. I like that personally. Texans know they have to work this offseason. Titans ain't no punk and Jacksonville has a legit qb. AFC south up for grabs.
DW4 will figure it out. Not sure if he will be best QB in division but I do believe he will throw down with anyone.
Well it was also a typical result for Obriens offensive gameplan in the playoffs
austins23
Hall of Fame
That defense is fast AF.
ATXtexanfan
Hall of Fame
Yup, he will play it safe. One day he will just trust DW4
Maybe in year 3 of the rebuild
ATXtexanfan
Hall of Fame
Sure is. Yet OB needs to learn how to counter speed. Weird saying that.
Won't be easy if he's starting Fells at outside LT
You don't think Fells can block a speed rusher?
ATXtexanfan
Hall of Fame
OK, but doesn't answer my question to K dog. So you don't think Fells can block?
austins23
Hall of Fame
Yep, played right into the Colts hands.
Mr teX
Hall of Fame
He could’ve learned a ton about himself actually. There’s something to watching yourself on film. Not a whole lot of time during the regular season to actually digest what you’re seeing from yourself on film. You work on what you see in the offseason and put it in play beginning in OTA’s.
TheRealJoker
Hall of Fame
Agreed. Colts cover 2 heavy defense gave DW4 issues along with a strong interior pass rush not allowing him to step up into the pocket. Add no Fuller and Hopkins on a bum ankle both those last two games and the offense was further hampered.
However, heading into the season with all of DW4’s weapons healthy including adding a healthy Foreman to help in the run game alongside another weapon that can exploit soft spots in cover 2 zones in Warring. I think that DW4 can have more success!
edo783
Hall of Fame
This time of year there is very little real news coming out of everyone s OTAs and that is a good thing. About the only real news is most likely going to be injury related and WE dang sure don't need that. Trying camp is when we will start getting any meaningful news.
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
One distinct problem DW4 has always had is knowing when to step into the pocket or simply sidestep a rush. Too often, instead, he reflexly runs backwards or runs to the outside when a simple step would have been more effective.
HaveMercy
Passing Through
I wonder if Watson's sometimes "over-reaction" to pressure was impacted by a lack of confidence in the OLine's ability to recover and keep the pocket safe, at least relatively.
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
I'm sure that would be a factor, but the result is still the same.
What we have here is lack of transparency
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
Possibly. But it all goes against the premise that he is "cool" under pressure.
Watson appeared "cool" in those nat'l championship games and up until he got hurt his rookie year.
I wish someone would logically and calmly explain WTF happened.
cuppacoffee
Resident Grouch
edo783
Hall of Fame
On 610 the other day, they were talking about ave league time to hold passing blocks and average time for the QB to get rid of the ball. The average for holding the pass block was 2.5 seconds and our line held up for that about 86% of the time, which is 16th in the league. However, Watson was holding the ball for an average of 3.2 seconds and that was 26th in the league. While our line is less than spectacular, it's pretty clear that Watson contributed greatly to the pass protection failures. If he could have just hit the 2.5 second league average things would have been much better. Now a lot of things contributed to him holding the ball such as injured receivers and his slowness to read a blitz. Supposedly he has been working on getting the ball out of his hands quickly, if he can that alone should make a marked improvement on offense. Healthy receivers and some improvement in the online and thing may not look so bleak!
I hate comparing teams as it's an overly simplistic way to view a problem. Our team ain't other teams.
But it was hard watching the Rams & Chiefs run their offenses in a way that helped their QBs. Half field concepts, moving pockets, schemes to get primary receivers open quickly.
Of course those teams were more talented than we were. But I get the feeling if we swapped our players with their players we would still say the same thing.
HaveMercy
Passing Through
Wow, edo, that's a very surprising set of numbers and, taken at face value, lays a lot of the room for correction at Watson's feet.
But as I think about what might have skewed those numbers, I wonder how much Watson's high 3.2 seconds holding the ball was pushed up by a lot of VERY high "holding on" plays with Watson holding and running around and holding and running around some more. I'm know not saying that well.
Okay, try this: if the statistician took out those extremely long plays that he was running around because the blocking broke down, what would Watson's "holding on" number be? Does this kind of stat penalize Watson for being an escape artist? Probably.
Of course, no matter how that would have changed his numbers for purposes of this stat, it's obvious that he should get rid of the ball faster. Some of that's on his recognition skills, some of that's on the receivers, and some of that is on the play design / play calling, as TK said.
But as I think about what might have skewed those numbers, I wonder how much Watson's high 3.2 seconds holding the ball was pushed up by a lot of VERY high "holding on" plays with Watson holding and running around and holding and running around some more. I'm know not saying that well.
Okay, try this: if the statistician took out those extremely long plays that he was running around because the blocking broke down, what would Watson's "holding on" number be? Does this kind of stat penalize Watson for being an escape artist? Probably.
Of course, no matter how that would have changed his numbers for purposes of this stat, it's obvious that he should get rid of the ball faster. Some of that's on his recognition skills, some of that's on the receivers, and some of that is on the play design / play calling, as TK said.
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Seegara
Guitar Picker, Dog Lover, Woodworker
If he can just learn to release quicker without throwing interceptions, great. But that depends on fast thinking, and I'm not sure you can learn that.
austins23
Hall of Fame
Exactly
Texansphan
Football connoisseur
If he can continue his current att./int. rate I'll be very happy.
Texansballer74
The Marine
He showed he was a fast thinker during his rookie year. He was getting the ball just as fast as the master himself Mr. Tom Brady.
Texansballer74
The Marine
Long developing plays contribute to it as well.
Two receivers set played a major part.
Teams having footage on Watson was a factor.
And finally Watson coming back from a major injury the year before aided in that as well. Watson wasn't able to use his feet like he did as a rookie early in the season.
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CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
A few years ago, when the media was talking about Peyton Manning's quick release, I heard a panel of QBs speak to this subject. Essentially they said that in attempting to significantly decrease release time, especially if it is not their natural tendency..................interceptions will tend to increase logarithmically. Once a quick release college QB comes into the NFL, his release time will be significantly more affected by his processing ability..................this is where many NFL QBs fail, as there is more to processing in the NFL.
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Texansphan
Football connoisseur
I'm interested to see how our new QB coach handles DW4 - he has a quick release and still has a low interception rate.
It appears to me our OC needs to find more receivers and ways to get them more involved.
I hope all the offensive coaches can get on the same page to make this happen - that would appear to be the main aim here I imagine.
HaveMercy
Passing Through
CND, I like the phrase used there: "processing ability". It often looked like Peyton Manning and Tom Brady were exceptionally quick with that, even pre-snap. It's been so many years, I don't recall how far they we're into their careers before they were simply out-thinking the defenses.
That said, Carl Smith is our new, highly touted Quarterbacks coach. I'm anxious to see how much he'll be able to help DWatson's processing ability.
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
Smith will now be reunited with his son Tracy Smith, who is the Texans’ assistant special teams coordinator. At 70 years old, I am sure he wanted to spend more time with his family...........difficult when that far apart..............that was a major factor...........and a probably blessing for us.
HaveMercy
Passing Through
Thanks for the info. I didn't realize Carl Smith was 70 neither did I realize Tracy Smith is his son.
Yes, I live under a rock.
As you said, it's a real blessing that Carl's here. His obvious influence will be on DWatson, but I'm really hoping that Carl Smith's years of accumulated offensive wisdom and knowledge will have a deeply positive influence on OB and Tim Kelly, too.
I'm also thinking that Carl's impact on DWatson will last long after he retires from coaching.
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"Smith was moved out of the QB coach role last year when Carroll reorganized the offensive coaching staff in the wake of the firing of offensive coordinator Darrell Bevell.
Dave Canales, who had been receivers coach, took over as QBs coach. Smith, whom it was known Wilson hoped would stay in the organization, was then moved into an associate head coach role."
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.se...ng-to-new-position-with-houston-texans/?amp=1
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
Despite the "official" move, Smith still was said to have continued working closely with Wilson until his departure.
AngryNateFTW
Veteran
This thread actually lacks a lot of OTA's info. Not of any fault of the posters here.
I'm sure we will hear more next week.
I'm sure we will hear more next week.
Do you think Wilson is a better QB today than he was three years ago?
I don't. I think he still relies on his athleticism & holding the ball till defenses break down. Of course I don't study his game & what I'm seeing may be a result of his height & having to always create his own passing lanes.
I'm excited Carl Smith is here. Someone outside BO'bs circle to mentor Watson. But I'm concerned he is the guy to teach Watson to be an NFL QB.
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