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2019 Texans free agency
- Thread starter powda
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again? Once should be enough
I like the defensive moves.
Gipson- solid starting safety who is locked up for 3 years and $7.5 million cap hit. Not as dynamic as Matthieu but he's a lot cheaper.
Roby- had a down year, but he believes he can be a star and signed a one year "prove it" deal similar to what Matthieu did. He'll be motivated and Crennel can hopefully maximize his talent. Only bad thing is if he plays awesome he'll look for a big payday like Matthieu got.
Boddy-Calhoun- Solid depth who can play corner, slot or safety as a backup. Can also be the primary nickel corner and will compete with Colvin fro time in the slot. Signed just for 1 year, $900k.
Angelo Blackson- not a probowler but provides the size Crennel wants and at least average production. Only $4 per year for 3 years.
They are also all young and don't have injury concerns like some other signings (kalil, seantrel) or huge flaws (TEs who can't block or RBs who can't run).
Now they just need to figure out the Clowney situation.
Gipson- solid starting safety who is locked up for 3 years and $7.5 million cap hit. Not as dynamic as Matthieu but he's a lot cheaper.
Roby- had a down year, but he believes he can be a star and signed a one year "prove it" deal similar to what Matthieu did. He'll be motivated and Crennel can hopefully maximize his talent. Only bad thing is if he plays awesome he'll look for a big payday like Matthieu got.
Boddy-Calhoun- Solid depth who can play corner, slot or safety as a backup. Can also be the primary nickel corner and will compete with Colvin fro time in the slot. Signed just for 1 year, $900k.
Angelo Blackson- not a probowler but provides the size Crennel wants and at least average production. Only $4 per year for 3 years.
They are also all young and don't have injury concerns like some other signings (kalil, seantrel) or huge flaws (TEs who can't block or RBs who can't run).
Now they just need to figure out the Clowney situation.
Shopping at Walmart.
They will figure out the Clowney thing all right. Tag him and try to trade him or tag him, keep him next yr then try to trade him. Either way Clowney isn't lomg for Houston.
Otherwise they would have to pay Clowney and we know that's unlikely to happen.
I hope against hope that the Texans will figure it out. I'm one of those hardheaded people who only learn by making my own mistakes. I see a lot of mistakes they've made, that is the source of my hope. Lots of learning opportunities.
& I resent that remark. I believe my history had shown me to be one of the unreasonably optimistic posters on this board.
Granted I took a haitus for about a year & when I got back it seemed like Bizarro world where steelbtexan (my pal) was the sole sunshine pumper here & I had to respond, I came across very negative.
But now that steelbtexan is back to being himself, I can start pouring koolaid again.
Belichick shops at walmart. You surround your stars with these guys. You don't pay star money for average players (Trent Brown, saffold, etc)
Belichick is an anomaly.
powda
The bridge between stupid and useless is short.
Yup. People always point to what the Pat's do/did and forget about the part where they have the best coach, Qb, and maybe tight end of all time.
Texansphan
Football connoisseur
And likely oline coach.
Scarnecchia is a legend.
powda
The bridge between stupid and useless is short.
Don't know enough about him to call him a legend. I know Devlin is not.
Texansphan
Football connoisseur
Duplicate post.
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
Then stop using them as an example when it suits you.
any sort of consistent winning is an NFL anomaly...around 25 of the teams in the NFL are "same mediocre dog different fleas" ...there are a handful in true suck and a handful with true goodness...most of the league is wheel spinning in some manner.
powda
The bridge between stupid and useless is short.
Not to mention Brady has deliberately taken lesser contracts to keep their cap competitive.
Almost all the playoff teams spent light in free agency.
I really wish it were as simple as that. But truth is we aren't those teams. Nothing like them.
We are who we are & have to figure out how to get better. Same as every other team. We all have our own problems & have to work our way through them.
Belichick figured out who they are & found a way to make it work, again & again & again. The Eagles figured it out & are trying to see if they can do it again. Same as the Rams.
BO'b says it starts with him. That he needs to get better. I hope he's honest enough to realize he hasn't gotten better over the last 5 years.
& that's not being negative. That's the only way we'll become true contenders under BO'b.
Mangler
Toro de España
I agree. But, I truly believe that O’Brien believes he has improved (In that warped little mind of his) due to the team finally breaking out of the 9-7 plateau. Truth is, he has NOT improved! I hope from all the time he has spent “looking in the mirror” something has finally clicked, although I’m not holding my breath.
You of all people making this post. LMAO
I like how the Pats org is run because they always figure out a way to fill holes. Brown last yr is a great example. They take risks on talented but troubled guys. They will spend big in FA for certain guys. (Gilmore) In short they are nothing like the Texans org.
It's like a bean counter is running the org, which Olsen probably is doing behind the scenes.
The Rams?
The Eagles?
The Saints?
They've all made moves in trades/FA to better there teams. You telling me as of today the Texans are better/more talented team than they were at the end of the yr?
Yep, and the Texans have the 2nd most cap space and a QB on a rookie deal.
True, but do you want to use that as an excuse and keep on doing the things that lump you in with the other 75% of the teams, or do you want to try to put the best team possible on the field?
powda
The bridge between stupid and useless is short.
How often can teams say that? Almost never. Now is the time to strike. Instead, this franchise is dormant like herpes.
No worries though, as long as we make our 9-7 mandate we had a good season and OB will be back.
powda
The bridge between stupid and useless is short.
I should change my sig.
Rich Schmidt
Myopicone
Maybe Gaine saving $$'s for next year, doesnt think we are ready for SB push so get a few more pieces first, then make push when he really believes we are there??
yes, but we know what moves constitute the best team possible? I know which ones are aggressive and interesting versus measured, conservative and predictable. My hope is the Texans have a better idea which move(s) lead to that best possible team over which ones I agree with or excite me.
They have to factor in reality as well. You could have a prick like Swearinger or a Stud like Brooks... if O'Brien doesn't want to coach them, he's not going to coach them no matter how much money you spend (Oz).
What would give you any hope that the Texans have changed/gotten a better idea of what their doing? They approached this offseason like they have every other offseason and so far that's lead to mediocrity. The only difference is Gaine is doing the drafting now and that should help the team improve, but not enough to bring a Lombardi to Kirby. Unless Gaine is some kind of drafting savant.
Yes they all spent light.i can share the Albert breer article again.
And as far as personnel, the problem isn't spending money, it's evaluation. The defense is quite good and has been for awhile.
I mean, obrien is spending $10m on seantrel and kalil, two dudes who haven't been healthy in years and sucked even when healthy
They do have the 2nd most unused cap space in the NFL.
They didn't spend their cap last yr and everybody said they're going to roll it over and spend it this yr. Wonder what that crowd is thinking now. Maybe they will continue to roll it over until 2030.
I liked re-signing Henderson at 1.4
Kalil at 7.5 not so much.
powda
The bridge between stupid and useless is short.
Just because it's hard to separate fact from fiction around here sometimes I think I'll post some snippets from various sources.
In case you missed it $4.5M not $1.4M
Now where I went to school they thought us $2.25 + $3.25 is $5.5M not $7.5M.
So what steelbtexan is really saying is he agrees with the Texans, $4.5M is about the right valuation for a guy who played 5 snaps last season, a 7th round pick that never did anything of note.
But $5.5M is too much for a former 1st round pick, one time ProBowler (as a rookie), who missed all of last season.
In case you missed it $4.5M not $1.4M
Now where I went to school they thought us $2.25 + $3.25 is $5.5M not $7.5M.
So what steelbtexan is really saying is he agrees with the Texans, $4.5M is about the right valuation for a guy who played 5 snaps last season, a 7th round pick that never did anything of note.
But $5.5M is too much for a former 1st round pick, one time ProBowler (as a rookie), who missed all of last season.
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
Kalil gets another $125k for every game he is active, so possibly another $2 mil.
Seegara
Guitar Picker, Dog Lover, Woodworker
According to traditional grammar, a is the correct indefinite article preceding a pronounced h. I particularly hate the TV-journalist's error of saying "an historic...". BTW, I help define the rules of English grammar.
Foreman's injury is indeed a horrible one, from which he'll never recover.
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michaelm
vox nihili
Didn't they spend a little to bring in Lamar Miller?
I would have signed Ingram and let Miller go in a heartbeat
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infantrycak
Hall of Fame
Not everyone considers the h in horrible pronounced/emphasized. Quite a few words are that way and so either a or an is acceptable.
No idea what that means.
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
Miller was signed to a 4 year $26 mil ($6.5 mil/yr) contract, so yes. They'd clear $6.2 mil in cap by cutting him.
What steelb leaves out of his 'Texans have 2nd most cap' squawks is the Colts have by far the most. Yet somehow they improved a ton last season, including OL, and are now the team to beat.
Find better ones without paying $26 million for average production (Trent brown) which would handicap the team. I know it's hard but that's the job. If O'Brien can't do it (and it's obvious he can't build an offense with limites resources which is what the salary cap and draft do) then it's time to move on.
Last year the signed Colvin, Fulton, Matthieu andKelemente. This year they've signed a few. Just because they've made dumb signings and draft picks on offense leaving gaping holes doesn't mean they haven't been spending money. Also it's not possible to bring in a $26m player in on a 4 year contract every off-season.
It's only been five years dude. Give it time. Three more years & we'll know what he can & can't do.
Rick's only been gone two offseasons...
Why do you think the Colts passed them? Could it be that they traded down and got Nelson and two 2nds. Meanwhile the Texans were picking in the 3rd rd.
You gotta use your cap space to catch back up.
Also when you add in Luck was better than Watson last yr, it is what it is.
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
The Texans have 4 picks in the 1st 3 rounds. They can do the same, draft. Exact opposite of spending multiple picks to get 1 guy.
Luck only played better than Watson at the tail end of the season, particularly the playoff game. Better coaching will be hard to catch up on.
How did we ever get into cap hell with bean counters running this organization?
vtech9
All Pro
Maybe I'm wrong, but I didn't see this being a strong year for OT free agents. We went after the best, but he chose to go somewhere else. We can't force someone to sign with us. We signed a guy on a prove it deal. If he turns out to suck, he won't make the team, and won't cost us much. If he makes the team, hopefully it will be because he proved himself.
As far as the rest of the OT free agents this year, are any of them really any better than every one of the OT's playing in the AAF? Maybe the Texans have their eye on one or more of the OT's playing in the AAF. That goes for RB's too.
I haven't been able to watch all of the AAF games, so I don't know if there are any good prospects there, but let's be honest, there wasn't much in free agency that I wanted to break the bank for.
As far as the rest of the OT free agents this year, are any of them really any better than every one of the OT's playing in the AAF? Maybe the Texans have their eye on one or more of the OT's playing in the AAF. That goes for RB's too.
I haven't been able to watch all of the AAF games, so I don't know if there are any good prospects there, but let's be honest, there wasn't much in free agency that I wanted to break the bank for.
srrono
All Pro
Another year of Watts career wasted and another rookie contract year of Watson gone. Cap is going to tighten ounce Watson gets new deal. We are filling in the Grand Canyon with a 5 gallon bucket.
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Texansphan
Football connoisseur
Me either - just goin
Sadly, JJ's career might be over by the time Watson needs to be paid. Or soon after at least.
That will free up a lot of space.
How many picks do the Colts in the first 3 rds? Are they really going to catch up?
They've never really been in cap hell.
They kept paying AJ/Watt's contracts forward for some reason.
In this new regime the bean counters appear to have taken over. There's little doubt with the unused cap space and Watson on a rookie contract what's going on with the Texans org.