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The International Games have listed the 5 teams playing a home game next year. One of the teams is the Chargers. Texans are scheduled to play the Chargers in LA next year. What are the chances the Texans go International again next year? Wasn't the Laser Beam game just 3 years ago?
 
austins23 said:
The International Games have listed the 5 teams playing a home game next year. One of the teams is the Chargers. Texans are scheduled to play the Chargers in LA next year. What are the chances the Texans go International again next year? Wasn't the Laser Beam game just 3 years ago?
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Only two years ago (Nov 2016).
 
NFL announced today that 5 teams will host international games in 2019. The host teams will be Jags, Rams, Chargers, Raiders and Buccaneers.
We play 4 of those teams next year since we are playing AFC West and NFC South.
There is only three teams in the NFL that has not played in London yet and those teams are Packers, Panthers and the Texans.
It is our time to play in London, we will be the visiting team and will not lose a home game to London. Most likely we will not play the Raiders in London since we played them in Mexico
 
1TexanFan said:
NFL announced today that 5 teams will host international games in 2019. The host teams will be Jags, Rams, Chargers, Raiders and Buccaneers.
We play 4 of those teams next year since we are playing AFC West and NFC South.
There is only three teams in the NFL that has not played in London yet and those teams are Packers, Panthers and the Texans.
It is our time to play in London, we will be the visiting team and will not lose a home game to London. Most likely we will not play the Raiders in London since we played them in Mexico
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I don't know what Cal's thoughts are on this, but Bob said multiple times in the past, he'd be for playing in London, as long as it's a road game. I wouldn't mind a road game in London. Might even make it a trip over there.
 
paycheck71 said:
I don't know what Cal's thoughts are on this, but Bob said multiple times in the past, he'd be for playing in London, as long as it's a road game. I wouldn't mind a road game in London. Might even make it a trip over there.
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I am going to the London game, we went to the Mexico City game and had a blast, They were also throwing big paper airplanes in the stands during the game. I have lots of friends in Europe and will be going with a Scottish Texans fan, and will probably visit Scotland after the game.
 
paycheck71 said:
I don't know what Cal's thoughts are on this, but Bob said multiple times in the past, he'd be for playing in London, as long as it's a road game. I wouldn't mind a road game in London. Might even make it a trip over there.
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I am going to the London game, we went to the Mexico City game and had a blast, They were also throwing big paper airplanes in the stands during the game. I have lots of friends in Europe and will be going with a Scottish Texans fan, and will probably visit Scotland after the game.
 
If the Texans get London....I'll be there. Just a hope, skip and jump from Naples. Also, stupid affordable with Ryanair Airlines having direct flights from Naples to London.
 
Listening to Seth Payne this morning describe Rick Smith in quite the positive light. He mentioned how GMS normally only hit on about 50% of their 1st round picks. Rick Smith after whiffing badly on Amobi Okoye went on a pretty dang good run of picking up quality players who performed at expectation. Kevin Johnson being the anomaly actually among names like:

Duane Brown, Brian Cushing, Kareem Jackson, JJ Watt, Whitney Mercilus, DeAndre Hopkins, Jadeveon Clowney, Will Fuller and Deshaun Watson. Thats a pretty damn good list of first rounders who for the most part panned out.

2nd rounders? Demeco Ryans, Connor Barwin, Ben Tate, Brooks Reed, DJ Swearinger, Sua Filo (playing good with Dallas go figure), Bernardrick McKinney, Nick Martin, Zach Cunningham .. that list is also not bad, with guys who are still effective pieces on other teams around the NFL.

He nailed a few 3rd rounders and later, but my point is that Rick Smith actually had a pretty good run, he struggled in identifying free agents and resigning homegrown talent, but his draft approach seemed to be stronger than most would give him credit for.
 
Uncle Rico said:
Listening to Seth Payne this morning describe Rick Smith in quite the positive light. He mentioned how GMS normally only hit on about 50% of their 1st round picks. Rick Smith after whiffing badly on Amobi Okoye went on a pretty dang good run of picking up quality players who performed at expectation. Kevin Johnson being the anomaly actually among names like:

Duane Brown, Brian Cushing, Kareem Jackson, JJ Watt, Whitney Mercilus, DeAndre Hopkins, Jadeveon Clowney, Will Fuller and Deshaun Watson. Thats a pretty damn good list of first rounders who for the most part panned out.

2nd rounders? Demeco Ryans, Connor Barwin, Ben Tate, Brooks Reed, DJ Swearinger, Sua Filo (playing good with Dallas go figure), Bernardrick McKinney, Nick Martin, Zach Cunningham .. that list is also not bad, with guys who are still effective pieces on other teams around the NFL.

He nailed a few 3rd rounders and later, but my point is that Rick Smith actually had a pretty good run, he struggled in identifying free agents and resigning homegrown talent, but his draft approach seemed to be stronger than most would give him credit for.
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Smith wasn't around for Ryans, but yeah. He sucked the 3-5th rounds though
 
infantrycak said:
I've gone thru a couple times and shown other teams, particularly NE, are no better at still having those guys on their teams but the mantra can't be killed.
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I will be forever grateful for JJWatt and DHop, and I am having the same inklings for DW4.
Sure, he,made a few blunders by few are perfect and independent analysers consistently had Smith ranked inside the top 10.
Can't whine about that, yet they do....
 
JB said:
Smith wasn't around for Ryans, but yeah. He sucked the 3-5th rounds though
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but if GOOD GMs are only hitting on 50% of first round draft picks then the percentages in lower rounds would be exponentially low? Just because there are really heartfelt stories about guys who were drafted low and fought back against adversity to succeed, or premature injury, or even the guys who were 'first round talent but they dropped because ______' its still nothing more than a dice roll in alot of instances. Rick is the popular whipping boy around here mainly to portray O'Brien as a poor coach who had to endure ineptitude and gross negligence, but nothing could be farther from the truth IMO. He did an average job, just like most of all the other managers on the team have done.

Issues sometimes lay in the interpretation of anecdotal, logical and empirical evidence.

edit: also wanted to add that Rick Smith was able to identify undrafted free agents like Arian Foster, Mike Brisiel, Vonta Leach, AJ Bouye, Dylan Cole and Kai Fairbairn. All who have had success at the NFL level.

edit 2: sorry Leach was drafted by GB. My mistake.
 
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Mollywhopper said:
Do GM's hit on 50% of first-round picks?

Is there some evidence for that beyond Seth Payne, of all people, said so?
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https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.c...round-of-the-draft-remains-a-total-crapshoot/

“That’s always an interesting discussion and we talk about it all the time,” Dimitroff said. “What’s funny is we talk about that with quarterbacks but then when we start looking at positions that we’re interested in. We can look at interior D-lineman over the years or [pass] rushers or whoever they may be, and we all want to come up with this stat that says, ‘Wow, this is an easy pick.’ It’s not an easy pick in the first round.”

It’s not easy because it remains, at best, a flip-of-the-coin proposition.

“According to our most recent statistics that we drew on the first round, it’s less than 60 percent of those players that are starting,” Dimitroff said. “I think it may have come in at 56 percent. So point being it’s not an exact science, we know that. There are so many other things that are involved in it. The first step is finding out whether that player has the adept skills on the field, of course. Many other areas that we’re looking into to make sure they’re fits in the organization. [Do] they have the mental capacity, they have the character capacity, and the team element that a team is looking for? Again, you’d better have a plan for the guys who are a little bit wayward in their approach. That’s alway been a big discussion point as well.”
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Key on "GM Success Rate" or "NFL Draft Hit rate" and it will start to condense the information. Some kid even did a thesis paper on the subject and his research led him to conclude that there is more success found among guys drafted from the 3rd round on .. hard to believe right? :


https://fisherpub.sjfc.edu/cgi/view...sredir=1&article=1064&context=sport_undergrad

Acknowledging that the sample for this research did not include every quarterback, running back, and wide receiver, the data may not accurately represent the NFL as a whole. However, the findings display evidence that individual offensive skill players that were drafted in the third through seventh round of the NFL draft do in fact have more successful careers than the individual skill players that were drafted in the first and second round. More specifically, this data illustrates that 60% of the third 33 Success or Bust? through seventh round running back and wide receiver sample have been more successful on the field than 40% of the same first and second round sample. With this information, NFL franchise front offices can re-evaluate their draft day selections and perhaps take more risks that could likely pay off in the future.
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I used to feel like picking in the first round was so easy anyone could do it, but data has led me to think differently. so that when you see GMs that ARE hitting on consecutive first rounders it should be a sign of good work IN THOSE ROUNDS. Remember scouting departments have alot to do with this process and it isnt solely on the GM.
 
Uncle Rico said:
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.c...round-of-the-draft-remains-a-total-crapshoot/

Key on "GM Success Rate" or "NFL Draft Hit rate" and it will start to condense the information. Some kid even did a thesis paper on the subject and his research led him to conclude that there is more success found among guys drafted from the 3rd round on .. hard to believe right? :

https://fisherpub.sjfc.edu/cgi/view...sredir=1&article=1064&context=sport_undergrad

I used to feel like picking in the first round was so easy anyone could do it, but data has led me to think differently. so that when you see GMs that ARE hitting on consecutive first rounders it should be a sign of good work IN THOSE ROUNDS. Remember scouting departments have alot to do with this process and it isnt solely on the GM.
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Cool, gracias.

Think it'd be interesting to further see that parsed into the success rate breakdown of GM's considered successful vs those who are run out of town sooner than later. I'm sure the dumbdumb quotient greatly affects those numbers, especially considering the argument at hand is that a GM worth his salt should be able to nail first rounders by and large.
 
Mollywhopper said:
Cool, gracias.

Think it'd be interesting to further see that parsed into the success rate breakdown of GM's considered successful vs those who are run out of town sooner than later. I'm sure the dumbdumb quotient greatly affects those numbers, especially considering the argument at hand is that a GM worth his salt should be able to nail first rounders by and large.
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http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...h-gms-have-the-best-success-rate-with-rookies

here's a graph that only correlates to ALL ROOKIE selections and it had Smith (through 2015) "hitting" on about a 10% clip on all rookie type guys.
 
Uncle Rico said:
but if GOOD GMs are only hitting on 50% of first round draft picks then the percentages in lower rounds would be exponentially low? Just because there are really heartfelt stories about guys who were drafted low and fought back against adversity to succeed, or premature injury, or even the guys who were 'first round talent but they dropped because ______' its still nothing more than a dice roll in alot of instances. Rick is the popular whipping boy around here mainly to portray O'Brien as a poor coach who had to endure ineptitude and gross negligence, but nothing could be farther from the truth IMO. He did an average job, just like most of all the other managers on the team have done.

Issues sometimes lay in the interpretation of anecdotal, logical and empirical evidence.

edit: also wanted to add that Rick Smith was able to identify undrafted free agents like Arian Foster, Mike Brisiel, Vonta Leach, AJ Bouye, Dylan Cole and Kai Fairbairn. All who have had success at the NFL level.

edit 2: sorry Leach was drafted by GB. My mistake.
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yeah maybe did an average job. That's not good enough around here...

You didn't mention stupid contract extensions like Cushing and Schaub which fell only on him. Not my whipping boy, but I can no longer defend him either
 
JB said:
yeah maybe did an average job. That's not good enough around here...

You didn't mention stupid contract extensions like Cushing and Schaub which fell only on him. Not my whipping boy, but I can no longer defend him either
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If being average is a death knell then Bill O'brien better be careful. I wonder if his extension by Bob McNair wasnt the straw that finally told Smith to walk away. O'Brien showed up on the scene and quickly dismantled an era of Texan football in a few short years only to what? Remain average. :deadhorse .. Im not saying Smith was some must have GM commodity, just that he cant be used as an excuse to why Bill OBrien has struggled. Evidence does not support that claim.
 
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Uncle Rico said:
If being average is a death knell then Bill O'brien better be careful. I wonder if his extension by Bob McNair wasnt the straw that finally told Smith to walk away. O'Brien showed up on the scene and quickly dismantled an era of Texan football in a few short years only to what? Remain average. :deadhorse .. Im not saying Smith was some must have GM commodity, just that he cant be used as an excuse to why Bill OBrien has struggled. Evidence does not support that claim.
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Yeah, except team-wise he hasn't really struggled. His offense sux, but the big picture says he's been successful
 
dream_team said:
The problem I've been struggling with, when it comes to BOB, is that he was hired as an offensive-minded coach. So doesn't look good that our offensive-minded coach hasn't been able to field a good offense.
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He was hired as a HC. Offensive minded maybe so, but he wasn't hired as an OC. I'm not sold on him not producing a good offense. The offense has been good when all 11 players execute as in the Miami game. Not defending him but it ain't as bad as some make it out to be
 
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This season, CB/S @ReemBoi25 has compiled a single-season career-high 78 tackles, 1.0 sack, 2 interceptions, 5 tackles for loss, 2 forced fumbles, 1 fumble recovery & a team-high 13 passes defensed. His 78 tackles are tied for 2nd-most by a DB through Week 14 in #Texans history

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JJO also has some crazy stat about passes defended. As much as our CBs get banged on around here you wouldnt think they would be top of anything.
 
Uncle Rico said:
JJO also has some crazy stat about passes defended. As much as our CBs get banged on around here you wouldnt think they would be top of anything.
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He has passed up his stats for last year in 12 games this season. 11 PDs so far.

Some folks look at age and start seeing slowing. Generally JJo is white on rice. Nobody on our team plays tighter to the receiver and yet he rarely draws a flag. Well worth keeping another year.
 
JB said:
Kubiak had a .488 (61-64) while here and most on this board consider him successful

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/KubiGa0.htm
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That's a straw man argument. Take away their outlier years and both of them have almost the same record % wise, but O'Brien WILL become the winningest coach in Texans history on the current trajectory. It helps when you have some talent to begin with. Kubiak had a complete overhaul/rebuild. O'Brien was supposed to be the missing piece.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/texans-to-hire-penn-states-bill-obrien-as-new-coach/

O'Brien's walking into a pretty good situation in Houston. He'll take over a team that's made the postseason in two of the past three seasons. Not to mention, the Texans also have the No. 1 overall pick in the 2014 NFL Draft.
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JB said:
He was hired as a HC. Offensive minded maybe so, but he wasn't hired as an OC. I'm not sold on him not producing a good offense. The offense has been good when all 11 players execute as in the Miami game. Not defending him but it ain't as bad as some make it out to be
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Well when you fire your OC, and make yourself the OC, you better be pretty damn good at it.
 
1TexanFan said:
NFL announced today that 5 teams will host international games in 2019. The host teams will be Jags, Rams, Chargers, Raiders and Buccaneers.
We play 4 of those teams next year since we are playing AFC West and NFC South.
There is only three teams in the NFL that has not played in London yet and those teams are Packers, Panthers and the Texans.
It is our time to play in London, we will be the visiting team and will not lose a home game to London. Most likely we will not play the Raiders in London since we played them in Mexico
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I don't think that Mexico has a separate rotation from London in the "international tour."
 
Uncle Rico said:
If being average is a death knell then Bill O'brien better be careful. I wonder if his extension by Bob McNair wasnt the straw that finally told Smith to walk away. O'Brien showed up on the scene and quickly dismantled an era of Texan football in a few short years only to what? Remain average. :deadhorse .. Im not saying Smith was some must have GM commodity, just that he cant be used as an excuse to why Bill OBrien has struggled. Evidence does not support that claim.
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Uncle Rico said:
If being average is a death knell then Bill O'brien better be careful. I wonder if his extension by Bob McNair wasnt the straw that finally told Smith to walk away. O'Brien showed up on the scene and quickly dismantled an era of Texan football in a few short years only to what? Remain average. :deadhorse .. Im not saying Smith was some must have GM commodity, just that he cant be used as an excuse to why Bill OBrien has struggled. Evidence does not support that claim.
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I was thinking about the "average" bit today and thought to myself "he has achieved that with some below average QB's."
He has a talented guy now albeit on a learning curve and now we are seeing other issues like a weak oline and WR shortage.
I know a "good" coach can still succeed with meager resources but I think Bill can do well once DW4 gets some more experience and a good line.
The measuring stick I think will be this season for starters.
I am thinking 10-11 wins can be considered successful with a decent postseason appearance.
It should go up from here.
 
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Revisiting the 0-3 teams who made the NFL playoffs
Dale Robertson , Houston Chronicle Dec. 13, 2018 Updated: Dec. 13, 2018 4:51 p.m.

Eighty days ago, with the Texans having staggered from the gate 0-3, I dug into the history books to see how many similarly hapless teams were able to turn themselves around sufficiently to make the playoffs. I found five, including the 1992 San Diego Chargers, who fell to 0-4 — the last of those losses a 27-0 drubbing by the Oilers in Houston — before dramatically reversing course. Now presumably there will soon be a sixth and the first in 20 years thanks to what became a nine-game Texans winning streak. But because they didn't make it 10 in a row against the Colts on Sunday, a measure of angst lingers. THE REST OF THE STORY
 
JB said:
Kubiak had a .488 (61-64) while here and most on this board consider him successful

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/KubiGa0.htm
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I view neither as successful. They've both been blessed with great to good draft positions, lots of talent but yet neither of them ever knocked on the AFCCG door. If mediocre is the barometer, then neither HC has really done much to ascend beyond that line. In most other organizations, they wouldn't have been given so many do-overs.
 
Sonny said:
The over-under is 10 years as far as when the NFL becomes... flag football.
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It's becoming unwatchable.

For the record, I didn't watch last nights game, only the highlights, it worked out well for me.

My Cousin Vinny and some wine.
 
Philip Rivers has always been one of my favorite players. Pissed Off Philip is also a real thing, it seems like he elevates his game more when the lights are the brightest and he's fired up and last night after that missed helmet to helmet call he just went super saiyan - he wasnt going to lose that game. I was wary of the Chargers before last night. I thought they had a very balanced team and played consistently at home or on the road (even though they barely get any fans at home games its sad - team should have went someplace else) I feel they will be the toughest out in the playoffs now that they are in the drivers seat for the #1 seed with such an experienced QB and solid defense, they are kinda similar to the TExans in that their offensive line is somewhat suspect too, but they are winning. Talk about a fantastic job by Anthony Lynn, year 2 and he's sitting at 20-10 and only getting better.

Chargers showed how you beat the Chiefs .. make a few stops and score. You have to keep up. That KC defense is not good even though they did get after Rivers last night they are susceptible to big plays and getting run on, exactly what the Texans like to do.
 
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