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CloakNNNdagger said:
How many times have we heard that from players coming back from injuries/surgeries? Only one of many examples......Cushing. You hardly see players demanding that they cannot play when the organization says that they should be able to. On the contrary, these players commonly exaggerate their "health status" to the positive so that they can return to the field.
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I think in his mind he was fine and felt fine. The team chose to be cautious with him due to past health issues, and that's it. So when a reporter asked him what injury kept him out of TC he is going to say he wasn't injured, because to him he wasn't.
 
Pancakes Q&A

Q: Who do you put the majority of the blame on for this team’s poor start? If Bill O’Brien is the main culprit, is it time for him and the Texans to go their separate ways? – Kyle Jones

A: As you know, Kyle, O’Brien took over a 2-14 team and went 9-7 three consecutive years and won two division titles. Last season, they were 4-12. They lost 13 starters and had 23 players on injured reserve. This season, they’re 0-3, and losing the last two was inexcusable. I blame O’Brien and his assistants for three consecutive slow starts. I blame O’Brien for not calling a timeout when they still had a chance to beat New England. I blame O’Brien for some poor play-calling like the 2-point conversion pass that failed miserably against the Giants. Here are some of the things I don’t blame O’Brien for: Lamar Miller fumbling at the Giants’ 25. Deshaun Watson throwing into coverage and being intercepted three times in the end zone. False starts against the offensive line. I don’t blame O’Brien for the defense cratering in the fourth quarter of the last two games. In other words, there’s enough blame to go around.

Q: What can we do to convince Bill O’Brien to let Deshaun Watson loose and stop trying to make him a pocket passer? That’s not his game. – Wendell Fobbs

A: Watson is on a pace to be sacked 53 times and get hit another 170 times, Wendell. He’s been under pressure on almost 50 percent of his drops. He’s thrown for almost 700 yards in the last two games. He needs to learn to throw from the pocket. All the great ones do. Those with movement skills learn to use that part of the game when they can’t throw from the pocket. Watson has started nine games in his career. He’ll keep getting better.

Q: How short is O’Brien’s leash right now? If they cobble together another 8-8 or 9-7 season, does he still keep his job? – Nick

A: Nick, his four-year extension kicks in next year. He’s not going anywhere unless they totally bomb out and finish, say, 2-14. I could see him hire an offensive coordinator next year and turn over the play-calling duties to him.

Q: Would 0-5 be enough to finally move on from O’Brien? If not, what will it take? He takes responsibility and says everyone needs to do more, starting with him, then they lose again, rinse and repeat? – Mike Harris

A: I’d be shocked if O’Brien gets fired during the season, Mike. Who would they promote as interim coach? Romeo Crennel? His defense has cost them the Tennessee game and possibly the Giants’ game. I just don’t see the McNairs making a change during the season.

Q: Any chatter whether or not the front office is inquiring about Le’Veon Bell? What are the Steelers asking for, and would the Texans be willing to meet that price and be players for a potential trade? – Chris Quay

A: I seriously doubt it, Chris. They want to hold on to their No. 1 pick and two picks in the second round. Plus, Bell wants a huge contract from his new team. The running game isn’t the issue here. Until they improve the offensive line, Watson is going to be running for his life. The one thing I’m sure of right now: The Texans will use their first-round pick on an offensive tackle, and they might be able to get the top prospect in the country the way they’re going.

Q: You’ve seen pretty much everything in regards to the two NFL franchises Houston has had. After 20 years now, would you rather have the Oilers/Titans or the Texans in Houston right now? And which franchise would you want for the next 20? My vote is the Oilers/Titans – intergalactic_J

A: The Oilers have been gone so long, J, I’ve gotten used to the Texans. I have much better relationships with players and coaches from the Oilers than I do with the Texans, but that’s a sign of the times. Media gets very little time with the players and coaches compared to the way it used to be when we were able to talk to them before and after practice and get to know them. NFL rules for media don’t allow that now. I’ll always have better relationships with the Oilers than the Texans. The league has changed so much in its attitude toward the media.

Q: Why is ownership inept compared to other organizations? It’s pathetic (and) should take notes from Astros and Rockets. – PoppinP

A: Well, PoppinP, let’s see. The Astros were the worst team in the league for multiple years by design. What would be the reaction here if the Texans were the worst team for, say, three years in a row? It took the Astros 56 years to win a title. The Texans have been in existence since 2002. As for the Rockets, I believe after they moved to Houston from San Diego in 1971, they didn’t win a title to 1994-95, right? So the Texans have a few years to catch up.

Q: How come OB hasn’t incorporated a more creative play design like a Sean McVay or an Andy Reid offense? He said he was building the playbook for Watson, but it looks like a playbook designed for a non-athletic QB. – Garrett S. Wright

A: You’re right, Garrett, about this season. But nobody complained about O’Brien’s play calling last year during Watson’s 6 starts when they averaged 34 points, and he was on a record-setting pace for 43 touchdown passes. Everyone talked about how creative O’Brien’s passing game was. It would help if their offensive line was competent, which it isn’t. I suspect the Rams and Chiefs have very good offensive lines.
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https://www.houstonchronicle.com/sp...ain-s-mailbag-Who-s-to-blame-for-13264848.php
 
Pancakes is such a shitty interview, and incredible Homer. His answer to the last question was absolute trash where he ignored the point of the whole question
 
Whose fault is it that the line is incompetent? Does that infer that last years line was competent? If no, why completely overhaul what worked?
 
PapaL said:
Whose fault is it that the line is incompetent? Does that infer that last years line was competent? If no, why completely overhaul what worked?
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It is OBrien's fault. No inference necessary .... last year's line was horribly incompetent. I'm pretty sure that Rankin and Davenport will progress far more than any of the other linemen .... quite possibly to a point where they will make valuable backups. I worry whether Martin will ever progress far enough.
 
zshawn10 said:
Pancakes Q&A

Q: How come OB hasn’t incorporated a more creative play design like a Sean McVay or an Andy Reid offense? He said he was building the playbook for Watson, but it looks like a playbook designed for a non-athletic QB. – Garrett S. Wright

A: You’re right, Garrett, about this season. But nobody complained about O’Brien’s play calling last year during Watson’s 6 starts when they averaged 34 points, and he was on a record-setting pace for 43 touchdown passes. Everyone talked about how creative O’Brien’s passing game was. It would help if their offensive line was competent, which it isn’t. I suspect the Rams and Chiefs have very good offensive lines.

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/sp...ain-s-mailbag-Who-s-to-blame-for-13264848.php
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Part of me wants to believe.

The way I see New England at the beginning of the season, they're still working out their kinks. Sure, they don't normally start 0-3, because they're just that good, but they usually look beatable.

I believe they're just working out some kinks, finding out what they've really got, who does what, when it's real. Sort of like the pre-season, but with more emphasis on winning. Romeo did it every year he was our DC. Injuries prolonged the process some times, but they usually figure it out & put the lock on.

So part of me wants to believe we're one of those teams that can start 0-3, then win 10 of the next 11.

I want to believe.
 
Texansballer74 said:
Pancakes is towing the company line brother. Lol hes always have and always will.
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just to clarify John McClain gave Texans management hell over selecting Mario Williams and he was thought by most to be left out in cold by team for his remarks. IIRC it took him several years to work back in. About that same time Chronicle moved other reporters into reviewing Texans and McClain took a sort of 'over all' review from a stand off position.
 
thunderkyss said:
Part of me wants to believe.

The way I see New England at the beginning of the season, they're still working out their kinks. Sure, they don't normally start 0-3, because they're just that good, but they usually look beatable.

I believe they're just working out some kinks, finding out what they've really got, who does what, when it's real. Sort of like the pre-season, but with more emphasis on winning. Romeo did it every year he was our DC. Injuries prolonged the process some times, but they usually figure it out & put the lock on.

So part of me wants to believe we're one of those teams that can start 0-3, then win 10 of the next 11.

I want to believe.
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Something they should've taking care of during preseason.
 
thunderkyss said:
Part of me wants to believe.

The way I see New England at the beginning of the season, they're still working out their kinks. Sure, they don't normally start 0-3, because they're just that good, but they usually look beatable.

I believe they're just working out some kinks, finding out what they've really got, who does what, when it's real. Sort of like the pre-season, but with more emphasis on winning. Romeo did it every year he was our DC. Injuries prolonged the process some times, but they usually figure it out & put the lock on.

So part of me wants to believe we're one of those teams that can start 0-3, then win 10 of the next 11.

I want to believe.
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Something they should've taking care of during preseason.
 
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I'm tempted to make a Mercilus thread, but I drank too much during the game. Today we played a 3-4 base and 4-3over defense with Mercilus as a 2-down OLB, DE, DT and cover LB. IMO we're wasting him by giving him 100 different responsibilities. Pull Cunningham in nickel, move McKinney to Will and make Mercilus our Mike linebacker in the Cushing/Clay Matthews mold - he's better in both zone and man than our current ILB's, a better interior blitz, and can stand up against offensive linemen in the run game. If he can't get on the field every down as a pass rusher because of Watt and Clowney, realize that he's still better than our other linebacker options and get him a consistent role.

I also want to say again, Kareem/Reid are a better CB/S combination than Colvin/Kareem or Wright/Kareem. Likewise, I agree with giving Matthieu freedom to play underneath with 2 safeties behind him, but again - we lose leverage with Kareem and Reid deep in order to get Matthieu his opportunities. Let Reid float as a center high and be more aggressive with Kareem playing man and Matthieu hiding his/linebackers' zone and man assignments.
 
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Scooter said:
I'm tempted to make a Mercilus thread, but I drank too much during the game. Today we played a 3-4 base and 4-3over defense with Mercilus as a 2-down OLB, DE, DT and cover LB. IMO we're wasting him by giving him 100 different responsibilities. Pull Cunningham in nickel, move McKinney to Will and make Mercilus our Mike linebacker in the Cushing/Clay Matthews mold - he's better in both zone and man than our current ILB's, a better interior blitz, and can stand up against offensive linemen in the run game. If he can't get on the field every down as a pass rusher because of Watt and Clowney, realize that he's still better than our other linebacker options and get him a consistent role.

I also want to say again, Kareem/Reid are a better CB/S combination than Colvin/Kareem or Wright/Kareem. Likewise, I agree with giving Matthieu freedom to play underneath with 2 safeties behind him, but again - we lose leverage with Kareem and Reid deep in order to get Matthieu his opportunities. Let Reid float as a center high and be more aggressive with Kareem playing man and Matthieu hiding his/linebackers' zone and man assignments.
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I don't think you need to worry about Colvin anymore.
 
steelbtexan said:
I know Colvin got hurt.

Did he tear his ACL again?

Same ACL?
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JB said:
I was thinking achilles
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ACL not likely with what I saw. An Achilles is a possibility, but is not as likely as a severe ankle injury (ligament and/or fracture), seeing that he has already suffered a major ankle injury which led to IR in 2016........and required an inordinately long rehab (over 7months).
 
Will Fuller suffered an aggravation of his hamstring in the 1st half. Although the teams says that he could have returned in the 2nd half, a re-injury needs to be handled very carefully. And the re-injury usually requires a longer rehab than the initial tear in order to try to minimize the already increased risk to further re-injury.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
ACL not likely with what I saw. An Achilles is a possibility, but is not as likely as a severe ankle injury (ligament and/or fracture), seeing that he has already suffered a major ankle injury which led to IR in 2016........and required an inordinately long rehab (over 7months).
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Another reason I feel that it is not an Achilles is that when I got a brief glimpse of the medical staff evaluation on the field, they were feeling around the medial and lateral surfaces of his ankle (not the back.....or having him try to move his foot up and down) searching for fracture, ligament damage and/or subluxation.
 
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CloakNNNdagger said:
Will Fuller suffered an aggravation of his hamstring in the 1st half. Although the teams says that he could have returned in the 2nd half, a re-injury needs to be handled very carefully. And the re-injury usually requires a longer rehab than the initial tear in order to try to minimize the already increased risk to further re-injury.
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I'm quite ignorant, but have had the lightest (and more) of hamstring tweaks and there's no 'coming back in' unless it's the Superbowl. It's hurt and is going to get VERY worse with every exertion.
 
thunderkyss said:
My main point is that it is too early to tell how Mahomes has done under Reid. What we're seeing with Watson is more common in this league than not. Let the NFL get some film on Mahomes, then let's see what happens.
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Exactly. I recall Alex Smith getting some MVP buzz this time last season. Then defenses found the best way to slow that offense down.

With that being said, Andy Reid has always done a great job of making it easier for his QB to succeed.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
Texans worked out four wide receivers: Cyril Grayson, Krishawn Hogan, Francis Owusu and Brandon Reilly.
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How telling would it be of Braxton Miller if they brought someone up from the PS, or signed a street FA before nabbing him off the Eagles PS. the Eagles receiving corp has been pretty decimated early on, and he hasn't been able to crack the 53 for them either.
 
Shishkabob said:
he has a friend who talks to a player, and apparently Cal airs his dirty laundry out in front of the team
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Unsubstantiated rumors are just that. I like the idea of ownership being upset with OB, but he's still here, and we have no actual proof of Cal speaking such words.
 
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I have a buddy that's engaged to one of the players sister.
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except ownership wouldn't call out the coach in front of the players, so your buddy's fiance's brother wouldn't know about Cal ripping OB a new one after the game. From reports from actual Texans players on 610, and through Foster's podcast, the Texans ownership doesn't really engage with the players that much.
 
Shishkabob said:
except ownership wouldn't call out the coach in front of the players, so your buddy's fiance's brother wouldn't know about Cal ripping OB a new one after the game. From reports from actual Texans players on 610, and through Foster's podcast, the Texans ownership doesn't really engage with the players that much.
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He didn't RIP OB he told Gaines to handle that. And you don't know what's going on in that locker room. I've seen bosses rip employees all the time in front of other employees. The NFL is no different especially when tempers are extremely high.
 
Texansballer74 said:
He didn't RIP OB he told Gaines to handle that. And you don't know what's going on in that locker room. I've seen bosses rip employees all the time in front of other employees. The NFL is no different especially when tempers are extremely high.
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Still calling BS sorry, the McNairs rarely ever go down to the locker room. I seriously doubt Cal is going up to Gaine and telling him to handle OB in front of the players thats not really how the non confrontational McNairs handle business. I just think your source is lying to you, or your lying about your source

I do have quite a few friends who have gotten quite a good chuckle out of your previous rumor that Watson is playing "poorly" because he is out partying and not focused on football. They themselves work in that industry, and definitely know the Texans players that are out frequently vs the ones who arent.
 
Shishkabob said:
Still calling BS sorry, the McNairs rarely ever go down to the locker room. I seriously doubt Cal is going up to Gaine and telling him to handle OB in front of the players thats not really how the non confrontational McNairs handle business. I just think your source is lying to you, or your lying about your source

I do have quite a few friends who have gotten quite a good chuckle out of your previous rumor that Watson is playing "poorly" because he is out partying and not focused on football. They themselves work in that industry, and definitely know the Texans players that are out frequently vs the ones who arent.
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Well let me tell that players soon to be brother and law to stop lying. Lol
 
I’m trying to picture Cal McNair being upset and showing his displeasure towards the game plan (and Bill O’Brien) to Brian Gaine in front of a player. It just doesn’t make sense but if true, the player should be cut for leaking that information.

Bottom line, I don’t think it happened. That’s a high level conversation between the owner and the GM. When did this conversation allegedly occur?
 
Texansballer74 said:
He didn't RIP OB he told Gaines to handle that.
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Odd.

I thought Gaines was O'bs boy. What you're saying suggests there's been a change in the hierarchy power structure. Where the coach & gm had always been equals, reporting to McNair, your statement suggests Gaines has authority over play calling
 
Texansballer74 said:
Cal McNair still wasn't happy at how we won this game. He was pretty livid at Bill O'Brien reverting back to his type of offense in the second half. He told Gaines to get it under control.
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I guess “Jr Son Of a B1tch” ain’t a pushover after all. Nice...

Hopefully he’s the one to show O’Brien the door. We need a REAL head coach and an offensive coordinator that’ll actually make Watson grow into a superstar instead of making him regress.
 
Man Cal McNair is doing his best impersonation of Billy Madison. He's the guy who's going to be responsible for turning around the culture of this team? Heaven help us!
 
thunderkyss said:
Odd.

I thought Gaines was O'bs boy. What you're saying suggests there's been a change in the hierarchy power structure. Where the coach & gm had always been equals, reporting to McNair, your statement suggests Gaines has authority over play calling
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TK While you took your hiatus from the board this became the age of fake news and unsubstantiated rumors.

Give it five minutes on the web and anything can become the new truth.

Exception: I once posted that OBrien would be a great coach. He promptly disproved me. :mad:

:coffee:
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
Houston Texans Ownership Backs Bill O’Brien Despite a Poor Start to the 2018 Season
Wednesday, September 26, 2018


The Houston Texans are currently sitting at 0-3 and since the 2017 season, they are boasting a 4-15 record in regular-season games under coach Bill O’Brien. There have already been questions on if the slow start would affect O’Brien’s job status in the near future and this is even after signing a 4-year extension this past off-season. The Texans have struggled in many areas through three weeks and the confidence in O’Brien is waning from fans on the outside.

“There’s no magic dust, there’s no magic wand we can just say, ‘Hey, wave this magic wand and everything’s going to be OK.’” O’Brien said of his team who is searching for its first win of 2018. “It’s hard work, it’s trying to figure out what we do best, do it better, and the things we’re not doing well, either stop doing them or figure out how to improve them.”

The Texans have to find a way to pull themselves out of this hole and discussions with ownership take place with O’Brien to keep them in the loop regarding the team. O’Brien made it clear that the line of communication is open with both Bob and Cal McNair on a daily basis.

“We talk all the time,” O’Brien said of his relationship with Texans ownership. ”Almost every day, I would say. We’ve got to get better. Bottom-line business. We have to win. We all understand that. Bob (McNair) has made it very clear to me that we need to improve.”

With the lack of success, the Texans ownership has been quiet on all fronts until Texans Chairman and COO Cal McNair gave O’Brien a vote of confidence at the start of the week.

“We got a lot of season left, we got to play better but it is really one game at a time, McNair said at a Texans event supporting the March of Dimes. “We will be fine, Coach (Bill) O’Brien is going to be our coach, he will claw us back into this thing like he does. He is a great coach and we will get back into it one game at a time.”
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Is this the dreaded "vote of confidence" that always bodes so well for head coaches...?
 
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