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TheRealJoker said:
And they lost their most explosive RB Sproles early in the year. Not sure where the “most healthy team” idea comes from. Significant pieces were lost and they overcame said losses to win it all.
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Just more talking out of ones a**.

Trying to make the Texans seem like the had the worst injury plague in the league. (They did) But the Eagles lost several key players and I think downplaying them is doing Roseman/Pederson a disservice. They did amazing work last season.
 
And nobody thought the Eagles were going to win the Superbowl. So please stop this stuff about oh they had the best depth. No one said anything about how deep they were before that season started.
 
Texansballer74 said:
And nobody thought the Eagles were going to win the Superbowl. So please stop this stuff about oh they had the best depth. No one said anything about how deep they were before that season started.
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If you win a SB with your back-up QB, says something about your depth, right ?
 
Texansballer74 said:
Chalk it up as excellent coaching. They had their backups ready to play. Sprinkle that in as well.
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Which is why I said Roseman/Pederson.

I know I thought the Eagles were going to be good last yr. I drafted Wentz/Ertz on my SB winning fantasy team.
 
Shishkabob said:
I dont really remember there being any decent back up QB free agents this offseason who fits the mobility bill. Well outside of the guy not allowed to play in the NFL, and rg3. While I would've been fine with rg3 as a camp arm I certainly wouldnt want to bank on him as my #2. Blaine gabbert maybe, idk I think Weeden is a decent back up I know he isnt mobile like Watson so you have to scratch that part of the game plan, but this is his 3rd offseason in the offense so we wont have to throw out to much of the playbook
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I know this is just preseason but RGIII has looked fairly sharp when I've seen him. If the Ravens cut him (I doubt it) I'd let him come in and compete. Worse case he chases Webb (bless his heart) from the roster.

I agree we ought to be looking to upgrade but who's available that actually IS an upgrade?
 
ObsiWan said:
I know this is just preseason but RGIII has looked fairly sharp when I've seen him. If the Ravens cut him (I doubt it) I'd let him come in and compete. Worse case he chases Webb (bless his heart) from the roster.

I agree we ought to be looking to upgrade but who's available that actually IS an upgrade?
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I'll be going to preseason week 4 game WAS vs BAL; I specifically want to see RG3. I saw him his rookie year and would look to see how he looks now. I wanted us to kick the tires on him. I believe he'd fit in well with what we're trying to do.
 
ObsiWan said:
I know this is just preseason but RGIII has looked fairly sharp when I've seen him. If the Ravens cut him (I doubt it) I'd let him come in and compete. Worse case he chases Webb (bless his heart) from the roster.

I agree we ought to be looking to upgrade but who's available that actually IS an upgrade?
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yea even if rg3 gets cut and we bring him in he would have to be qb3 though. He wont know our offense, he wont get any practice reps during the season to learn the offense so it would pretty much be a stash and save for next year, and I dont know if he is worth that roster spot
 
Shishkabob said:
yea even if rg3 gets cut and we bring him in he would have to be qb3 though. He wont know our offense, he wont get any practice reps during the season to learn the offense so it would pretty much be a stash and save for next year, and I dont know if he is worth that roster spot
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We've won games with TJ Yates coming out of a deer blind and Keenum off a sofa that week. If he's the better player, they can work him in. One way to do that faster is take 2nd team reps.
 
Came across this via Reddit. With all the WR injuries you'd think B.Miller would be pretty safe but he probably isn't. I have high hopes for Mathieu, Jackson, and Reid. They'll get a lot of playing time together this season.

Cody Stoots: 11 observations from Texans training camp for Mon., Aug. 20
https://houston.sportsmap.com/cody-stoots-11-observations-from-texans-training-camp-mon-aug-20/


2. Clowney is a monster out there. His speed is just amazing for a man of his size and the Texans tackles didn't have a chance against him today. There was one play where he almost caught Deshaun Watson's pass in the backfield. Let me say that again, Clowney was behind the line of scrimmage and maybe could have made a play on a Watson pass before it left the quarterbacks hand.

5. Sammie Coates also missed practice due to his concussion from Saturday's win over the 49ers. Coates was well on his way to making the roster, and depending on how long he is out, it could affect what his status with the team is when the 53-man roster gets set. If Coates gets healthy and they handle him with kid gloves, it could mean he is safe for the final roster. Chris Thompson and rookie Keke Coutee also remain out.

9. Justin Reid will need to get used to taking on tight ends. He struggled a little early last week against the 49ers but then won some reps in the second practice and game against the San Francisco pass catcher. Today he earned a matchup with Ryan Griffin and though he got the "win" in the rep defending Griffin. It was a questionable play that might have drawn a flag in today's NFL. Griffin didn't protest too much, but there were of course jeers from the offense and cheers from the defense at the end of the rep. No laundry on the field, no penalty. Rams tight end Gerald Everett and Reid is a matchup I hope we all get to watch Saturday.

10. Tyrann Mathieu continues to impress. He ended up matched up on DeAndre Hopkins and despite the play going for a good amount of time, Mathieu earned a rare pass breakup on Hopkins. Later he matched up with rookie Jordan Akins and showed off his impressive hops challenging Akins for a high pass. Mathieu is as athletic as you would hope him to be, and his anticipation and quick diagnosis are lethal to offenses. Jadveon Clowney pepped up and got more excited behind the microphone when he talked about how the secondary looked.
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2. Clowney is a monster out there. His speed is just amazing for a man of his size and the Texans tackles didn't have a chance against him today. There was one play where he almost caught Deshaun Watson's pass in the backfield. Let me say that again, Clowney was behind the line of scrimmage and maybe could have made a play on a Watson pass before it left the quarterbacks hand.
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Clowney is arguably the most prodigious talent who's ever played for the Texans. As advertised back in 2014 when coming out of college, when he's on he can take over a game.
 
ObsiWan said:

I agree we ought to be looking to upgrade but who's available that actually IS an upgrade?
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Teddy Bridgewater is available - but I hear at a high price. Local radio (Clemson) says today they are hearing the Jets want at least a Jimmy G price - 2nd rnd. They also said Bridgewater did not want to be traded anywhere unless he would be a starter. Problem with that, he is not going to start anywhere, barring an injury somewhere. I guess he still thinks he can win the NYJ starting job.

Teddy is a risk. His ceiling is high, and his floor is low (injury). 2nd rnd pick is a very high price, too high in my opinion.

My whole point is that we should upgrade, and its tough to do via duck blinds and couches. I think its important enough to go make a deal somewhere. I would NOT give the Jets a 2nd for TB, but if I could find the right guy, I would give up something for some very valuable insurance.

I might give a 3, and I would definitely give a 4 for Teddy. The asking price may come down as the season approaches, especially if Darnold can cement the starting spot.
 
Would like to see what Gaine could do in next years draft, based off need following season. I think it’s always a good time to groom position sooner than later but window for this year appears closed. So let’s roll with what we have and make best of it.
 
Bull Durham said:
Teddy Bridgewater is available - but I hear at a high price. Local radio (Clemson) says today they are hearing the Jets want at least a Jimmy G price - 2nd rnd. They also said Bridgewater did not want to be traded anywhere unless he would be a starter. Problem with that, he is not going to start anywhere, barring an injury somewhere. I guess he still thinks he can win the NYJ starting job.

Teddy is a risk. His ceiling is high, and his floor is low (injury). 2nd rnd pick is a very high price, too high in my opinion.

My whole point is that we should upgrade, and its tough to do via duck blinds and couches. I think its important enough to go make a deal somewhere. I would NOT give the Jets a 2nd for TB, but if I could find the right guy, I would give up something for some very valuable insurance.

I might give a 3, and I would definitely give a 4 for Teddy. The asking price may come down as the season approaches, especially if Darnold can cement the starting spot.
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Good information. Teddy would be a great backup to Watson IMO but I think it would be smartest for him to wait for a starting job as you mentioned. I'm hoping that Gaine is taking a slower approach to building this team through the draft rather than trading away picks as well.
 
Mr. Preseason MVP and rookie, Sam Darnold.
I think he's going to struggle in the regular season.

The Jets would be wise to keep Bridgewater, IMO. Let Teddy Bridgewater take all the bullets when the Jets suck this year. If they ride or die with Sam Darnold this soon, in that unforgiven media market, Darnold isn't going to recover from that if he struggles early on.
 
Bulls on Parade said:
Mr. Preseason MVP and rookie, Sam Darnold.
I think he's going to struggle in the regular season.

The Jets would be wise to keep Bridgewater, IMO. Let Teddy Bridgewater take all the bullets when the Jets suck this year. If they ride or die with Sam Darnold this soon, in that unforgiven media market, Darnold isn't going to recover from that if he struggles early on.
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I agree with this if Teddy os your best qb you play him. I think they are scared of what could happen and how it would make them look. If Teddy balls out has a pro bowl type season, leads the jets to a playoff birth then what do they do? do they resign him and try to trade darnold? do they just let teddy walk and hope sam is better? do you franchise teddy to try and trade him while still banking on darnold? I dont think they want to have to make a tough call, and get embarrassed/fired if it goes wrong
 
Shishkabob said:
I agree with this if Teddy os your best qb you play him. I think they are scared of what could happen and how it would make them look. If Teddy balls out has a pro bowl type season, leads the jets to a playoff birth then what do they do? do they resign him and try to trade darnold? do they just let teddy walk and hope sam is better? do you franchise teddy to try and trade him while still banking on darnold? I dont think they want to have to make a tough call, and get embarrassed/fired if it goes wrong
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Seems like a situation like the Eagles had last year when they won the SuperBowl. Why not do what they did and keep them both? Darnold doesn't cost you much to keep.
 
usernameJJ said:
Seems like a situation like the Eagles had last year when they won the SuperBowl. Why not do what they did and keep them both? Darnold doesn't cost you much to keep.
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I mean you could, but if teddy plays well he is only coming back to start, so then you have darnold riding the bench and losing value the longer he is there.

Honestly I dont think most teams have the balls to do what Andy Reid did with the chiefs. He let a sure thing go at QB, and is banking on a young not yet proven guy. the jets could be in the same situation if they start teddy and he plays well
 
Bill O'Brien: All hands on deck for Texans in third preseason game
By Chandler Rome, Houston Chronicle

Updated 5:21 pm CDT, Tuesday, August 21, 2018

Although Texans coach Bill O'Brien has held out key players for precautionary reasons for the first two preseason games, he's about to change that approach Saturday night.

O'Brien said he plans to utilize every healthy player during a road preseason game against the Los Angeles Rams.

That would include star defensive end J.J. Watt, who's coming off a broken leg from last season that he's recovered from, wide receives DeAndre Hopkins and Will Fuller, inside linebacker Benardrick McKinney, safety Tyrann Mathieu, outside linebacker Jadeveon Clowney, cornerback Johnathan Joseph and nose tackle D.J. Reader. All of those players were rested during the first two preseason games.
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ObsiWan said:
of the two, Bridgewater or McCown, I'd keep TB and dangle McCown on the trade wire.
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I mean if I'm just thinking of their production, and not the return I'd get yea I'm sure everyone would make that trade.

I just dont think anyone would give up a thing of substance for a 38 yr old backup making 10 mil. you would get a lot more from teddy on his 1.5 mil deal to a team that thinks he could be the long term solution
 
Shishkabob said:
I just dont think anyone would give up a thing of substance for a 38 yr old backup making 10 mil. you would get a lot more from teddy on his 1.5 mil deal to a team that thinks he could be the long term solution
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Bridgewater is on a 1 year $6 mil deal. So keep both or pick the one you like most. Little, if any, trade value unless a sign & trade can be done.
 
infantrycak said:
Bridgewater is on a 1 year $6 mil deal. So keep both or pick the one you like most. Little, if any, trade value unless a sign & trade can be done.
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I could see a team doing what the 49ers and new England did, and trade a pick of substance for him near the deadline.
 
infantrycak said:
Foles as a backup was highly unique. Find me another young probowl 27 TD, 2 INT backup, like ever.
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I always thought he was an Eddie Murphy look alike. "Hello Mr. **** You man!" I'm a bit out of sorts, end of graveyard shift....I think it's funny though!
 

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A look at how all eight Texans draft picks are faring after three weeks of camp.
Sarah BarshopESPN Staff Writer


A breakdown of the Houston Texans' 2018 draft class and its progress after three weeks of training camp:

Justin Reid, S, Round 3: Reid is competing with veteran Kareem Jackson to start at safety alongside Tyrann Mathieu. Regardless of whether he begins the season as the starter, he will be on the field often. Mathieu said Reid has stood out to him in camp and noted his on-field sharpness.

Martinas Rankin, T, Round 3: Rankin missed more than three weeks to start training camp while on the physically unable to perform list with a foot injury. His absence meant he did not have the chance to compete for the starting job at right tackle, but the coaching staff has been happy with his progress learning the system.

Jordan Akins, TE, Round 3: Akins will likely back up starting tight end Ryan Griffin this season. He had a good game in the preseason opener, catching two touchdown passes from backup quarterback Brandon Weeden.

Keke Coutee, WR, Round 4: Coutee has missed most of camp because of an injury, but he impressed the coaching staff in offseason workouts. He has drawn praise from Deshaun Watson and DeAndre Hopkins, and should see quite a bit of playing time in the slot once he returns to practice.

Duke Ejiofor, DE, Round 6: Ejiofor missed the offseason program while rehabbing from a shoulder injury but "really improved" during training camp, according to coach Bill O'Brien. Ejiofor stood out in the first preseason game against the Chiefs with three quarterback hits. If the Texans suffer any injuries to their pass rush, Ejiofor would get the first shot to impress in reserve.

Jordan Thomas, TE, Round 6: Thomas is likely to be the team's third tight end. Early in camp, O'Brien said he thought Thomas has "actually done a decent job blocking relative to being a young player -- better than I thought he would do." If he can keep that up, Thomas could see action in two-tight-end sets in running situations.
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J.J. Watt and Kealia Ohai: Couple’s Rehab and Recovery
By Jenny Vrentas
August 22, 2018

On the eve of his eighth NFL training camp, J.J. Watt opened a text message and got emotional. Inside was a cell-phone video filmed in a hospital corridor 10 months earlier. Watt was on crutches, still wearing his surgery socks and a giant bandage wrapped around his left knee. A physical therapist was showing the former three-time Defensive Player of the Year how to take a single step forward.

“It’s crazy when you look back at it,” Watt said after a late July practice at the Texans’ training camp site in White Sulphur Springs, W.Va. “That day, you are thinking to yourself, How the hell am I ever going to get back to who I am?”

The scar left behind from the complicated surgery to repair the fracture of his tibial plateau, which snakes up from his shin to the side of his kneecap, is lighter now, and even a source of pride. On the practice field, Watt has been back in his usual spots, leading the defensive linemen through position drills and slicing past blockers in 11-on-11 team reps. And on Sept. 9, when the Texans open their season against the Patriots, Watt fully expects to be starting at right defensive end.

But last October, with a second straight season officially cut short by injury, Watt couldn’t be sure about any of those things. If there was anyone who could understand what it’s like to traverse the long and uncertain road back, though, it was the person who recorded the video.

Kealia Ohai was at NRG Stadium on the night of Oct. 8, for the Texans’ Sunday night game against the Chiefs. She was sitting in the stands with her sister, Megan, when she saw her boyfriend run a third-down pass-rush stunt and then crumple to the turf. Ohai rushed downstairs to the locker room, and when she heard the team doctors say Watt definitely hadn’t torn his ACL, she was relieved. She had good reason to be.

In June 2017, Ohai, captain of the Houston Dash of the National Women’s Soccer League, was racing for the ball during a road game in Orlando. When she stepped to cut, she felt a pop in her leg. The diagnosis was what she’d feared—a torn ACL and meniscus. She had surgery 10 days later. A month after that, she needed a second procedure to clean out an infection that developed when one of the stitches didn’t heal. By early October, she still hadn’t been able to start running again. That night, she thought Watt avoiding ACL rehab was a win.

Then they got the diagnosis. Watt had shattered the top part of his lower leg, breaking bone and tearing cartilage, the sort of injury doctors said they usually saw in car accidents. He needed to be operated on within hours of the injury. Ohai waited at Memorial Hermann-Texas Medical Center, a setting she knew well. The orthopedic surgeon who had repaired Ohai’s knee months earlier was part of the team working to put Watt’s leg back together with a metal plate and screws.

“They weren’t even sure if the surgery would work and if he would be able to run anymore. That’s what was so scary for us,” Ohai says. “An ACL is difficult, but it’s pretty straightforward. With J.J.’s, because of the type of injury, I remember the doctors were not exactly sure how his leg and his knee would react to [the surgery]. From the beginning, he wanted to work hard and come back. But for a while, [the question] was, would he be able to come back and play at the same level, and support that much weight? Will his leg ever be the same again?”

It was during those anxious days that Ohai filmed the video of Watt trying to master the delicate art of moving his nearly 300-pound frame on crutches without putting any of his weight on his injured leg. The physical therapist helping him down that hospital corridor knew what awaited the couple in the months ahead—a lot of time on the couch—so he made a recommendation: Peaky Blinders, a British crime drama, available on Netflix.

Unable to walk for nearly two months after the surgery, Watt leaned on Ohai to help with almost everything. She’d bring him his toothbrush and a bowl of water, so he could brush his teeth while sitting down. “So I didn’t have to stand there,” Watt explains, “with my leg throbbing.” She mastered the art of sponge baths and took over the critical household duty of making the chocolate-chip pancakes. At the same time, she was in the most intense portion of her own rehab, strengthening her injured leg and getting her range of motion back. Before she’d leave the house they share for her four-to-five hour physical therapy sessions, she’d make sure Watt had his phone, food, water and anything he might need within arm’s reach. When she’d come back, he’d be sitting in the same spot where she’d left him—it was too painful for him move.

In so many ways, this was old hat. For most of the two-plus years that Watt and Ohai have been dating, he’s been rehabbing one serious injury or another. When Watt needed back surgery for a herniated disc in the summer of 2016, Ohai would carry his urine bottles from the bed to the toilet, where she’d dump them out for him. (And this after they’d been dating for only two months.) But this time was different: Now the heartbeats of two franchises were confronting the feelings of anxiety, frustration and uncertainty together.

“Neither of us could feel too sorry for ourselves,” Ohai says, “because the other one was going through the exact same thing.”

THE REST OF THE STORY
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
A story from ESPN:
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J.J. Watt and Kealia Ohai: Couple’s Rehab and Recovery
By Jenny Vrentas
August 22, 2018

On the eve of his eighth NFL training camp, J.J. Watt opened a text message and got emotional. Inside was a cell-phone video filmed in a hospital corridor 10 months earlier. Watt was on crutches, still wearing his surgery socks and a giant bandage wrapped around his left knee. A physical therapist was showing the former three-time Defensive Player of the Year how to take a single step forward.

“It’s crazy when you look back at it,” Watt said after a late July practice at the Texans’ training camp site in White Sulphur Springs, W.Va. “That day, you are thinking to yourself, How the hell am I ever going to get back to who I am?”

The scar left behind from the complicated surgery to repair the fracture of his tibial plateau, which snakes up from his shin to the side of his kneecap, is lighter now, and even a source of pride. On the practice field, Watt has been back in his usual spots, leading the defensive linemen through position drills and slicing past blockers in 11-on-11 team reps. And on Sept. 9, when the Texans open their season against the Patriots, Watt fully expects to be starting at right defensive end.

But last October, with a second straight season officially cut short by injury, Watt couldn’t be sure about any of those things. If there was anyone who could understand what it’s like to traverse the long and uncertain road back, though, it was the person who recorded the video.

Kealia Ohai was at NRG Stadium on the night of Oct. 8, for the Texans’ Sunday night game against the Chiefs. She was sitting in the stands with her sister, Megan, when she saw her boyfriend run a third-down pass-rush stunt and then crumple to the turf. Ohai rushed downstairs to the locker room, and when she heard the team doctors say Watt definitely hadn’t torn his ACL, she was relieved. She had good reason to be.

In June 2017, Ohai, captain of the Houston Dash of the National Women’s Soccer League, was racing for the ball during a road game in Orlando. When she stepped to cut, she felt a pop in her leg. The diagnosis was what she’d feared—a torn ACL and meniscus. She had surgery 10 days later. A month after that, she needed a second procedure to clean out an infection that developed when one of the stitches didn’t heal. By early October, she still hadn’t been able to start running again. That night, she thought Watt avoiding ACL rehab was a win.

Then they got the diagnosis. Watt had shattered the top part of his lower leg, breaking bone and tearing cartilage, the sort of injury doctors said they usually saw in car accidents. He needed to be operated on within hours of the injury. Ohai waited at Memorial Hermann-Texas Medical Center, a setting she knew well. The orthopedic surgeon who had repaired Ohai’s knee months earlier was part of the team working to put Watt’s leg back together with a metal plate and screws.

“They weren’t even sure if the surgery would work and if he would be able to run anymore. That’s what was so scary for us,” Ohai says. “An ACL is difficult, but it’s pretty straightforward. With J.J.’s, because of the type of injury, I remember the doctors were not exactly sure how his leg and his knee would react to [the surgery]. From the beginning, he wanted to work hard and come back. But for a while, [the question] was, would he be able to come back and play at the same level, and support that much weight? Will his leg ever be the same again?”

It was during those anxious days that Ohai filmed the video of Watt trying to master the delicate art of moving his nearly 300-pound frame on crutches without putting any of his weight on his injured leg. The physical therapist helping him down that hospital corridor knew what awaited the couple in the months ahead—a lot of time on the couch—so he made a recommendation: Peaky Blinders, a British crime drama, available on Netflix.

Unable to walk for nearly two months after the surgery, Watt leaned on Ohai to help with almost everything. She’d bring him his toothbrush and a bowl of water, so he could brush his teeth while sitting down. “So I didn’t have to stand there,” Watt explains, “with my leg throbbing.” She mastered the art of sponge baths and took over the critical household duty of making the chocolate-chip pancakes. At the same time, she was in the most intense portion of her own rehab, strengthening her injured leg and getting her range of motion back. Before she’d leave the house they share for her four-to-five hour physical therapy sessions, she’d make sure Watt had his phone, food, water and anything he might need within arm’s reach. When she’d come back, he’d be sitting in the same spot where she’d left him—it was too painful for him move.

In so many ways, this was old hat. For most of the two-plus years that Watt and Ohai have been dating, he’s been rehabbing one serious injury or another. When Watt needed back surgery for a herniated disc in the summer of 2016, Ohai would carry his urine bottles from the bed to the toilet, where she’d dump them out for him. (And this after they’d been dating for only two months.) But this time was different: Now the heartbeats of two franchises were confronting the feelings of anxiety, frustration and uncertainty together.

“Neither of us could feel too sorry for ourselves,” Ohai says, “because the other one was going through the exact same thing.”

THE REST OF THE STORY
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That's wife material there.
 
JB said:
As long as the safeties can cover. We'll probably see lots of 3 safety looks
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that's what I'm thinking, plus its not like Kareem instantly forgot how to play cb in this system. I can see him getting some time out there if we need him
 
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Have the Texans signed a RB in the last week. I have not followed. They need help there and I am afraid they don't see it. Just saw West signed by Chiefs. I think Foreman will be a non factor this year due to injury. Just my feeling.
 
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