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This is being brought up time and time again so I'll address it. Here are the Super Bowl starters for the Eagles and how they were acquired:

QB - FA (2 yr/$11M)
RB - FA (1 yr/$1.3M)
WR - Draft
WR - FA (1 yr/$9.5M)
WR - Trade
TE - Draft
LT - Draft
LG - FA (1 yr/$1.6M)
C - Draft
RG - FA (5 yr/$40M)
RT - Draft

DE - Draft
DT - Draft
DT - Trade
DE - Draft
LB - Draft
LB - FA (2 yr/$7M)
CB - Trade
CB - Draft
S - FA (1 yr/$1.6M)
S - FA (5 yr/$37M)
S - FA (5 yr/$40.5M)

I was going to do this exercise for all of the final four teams but it seems unnecessary at this point so someone else can do it if they feel like doing the research. The point is made. This team was constructed mostly through the draft. Some players were acquired through trades, in which draft picks were used to complete the trade. The majority of the FA signings are short, low-risk deals. Only three of the 22 starters were acquired as high-priced FAs.

Draft - 10
Trade - 3
Low risk FA - 6
Splash FA - 3
This is being brought up time and time again so I'll address it. Here are the Super Bowl starters for the Eagles and how they were acquired:

QB - FA (2 yr/$11M)
RB - FA (1 yr/$1.3M)
WR - Draft
WR - FA (1 yr/$9.5M)
WR - Trade
TE - Draft
LT - Draft
LG - FA (1 yr/$1.6M)
C - Draft
RG - FA (5 yr/$40M)
RT - Draft

DE - Draft
DT - Draft
DT - Trade
DE - Draft
LB - Draft
LB - FA (2 yr/$7M)
CB - Trade
CB - Draft
S - FA (1 yr/$1.6M)
S - FA (5 yr/$37M)
S - FA (5 yr/$40.5M)

I was going to do this exercise for all of the final four teams but it seems unnecessary at this point so someone else can do it if they feel like doing the research. The point is made. This team was constructed mostly through the draft. Some players were acquired through trades, in which draft picks were used to complete the trade. The majority of the FA signings are short, low-risk deals. Only three of the 22 starters were acquired as high-priced FAs.

Draft - 10
Trade - 3
Low risk FA - 6
Splash FA - 3

A mixture of high / low FA signings, Trades and of course the draft. Looks about like I thought it would. 10 draft picks and 12 thru FA / trade.

I wonder how the Texans look
 
Hackenburg was only successful that one year will Bill O'brien...he should not have drafted in the 2nd round. He has some physical attributes, but is probably just not good QB. this pre-draft documented by many.

I think he went into the draft too early. O'Brien knows what this guy brings to the table...so a 1-year prove-it type of contract should give everyone a feel for what he does or does not have. Either way, it's going to be a very inexpensive look. Word was the Jets are going to release/cut him, how reliable, that's anyone's guess.
 
This is being brought up time and time again so I'll address it. Here are the Super Bowl starters for the Eagles and how they were acquired:

QB - FA (2 yr/$11M)
RB - FA (1 yr/$1.3M)
WR - Draft
WR - FA (1 yr/$9.5M)
WR - Trade
TE - Draft
LT - Draft
LG - FA (1 yr/$1.6M)
C - Draft
RG - FA (5 yr/$40M)
RT - Draft

DE - Draft
DT - Draft
DT - Trade
DE - Draft
LB - Draft
LB - FA (2 yr/$7M)
CB - Trade
CB - Draft
S - FA (1 yr/$1.6M)
S - FA (5 yr/$37M)
S - FA (5 yr/$40.5M)

I was going to do this exercise for all of the final four teams but it seems unnecessary at this point so someone else can do it if they feel like doing the research. The point is made. This team was constructed mostly through the draft. Some players were acquired through trades, in which draft picks were used to complete the trade. The majority of the FA signings are short, low-risk deals. Only three of the 22 starters were acquired as high-priced FAs.

Draft - 10
Trade - 3
Low risk FA - 6
Splash FA - 3

That's not mostly through the draft, in fact, less than half of the starters were drafted. The rest were acquired via other means....
 
A mixture of high / low FA signings, Trades and of course the draft. Looks about like I thought it would. 10 draft picks and 12 thru FA / trade.

I wonder how the Texans look

QB - Via Draft Trade
RB - Free Agent
WR1 - Draft
WR2 - Draft
WR3 - FA
TE - Draft
LT - Draft
LG - FA
C - Draft
RG - FA
RT - FA

DE - Draft
DT - Draft
DE - Draft
OLB - Draft
OLB - Draft
MLB - Draft
MLB - Draft
CB - FA
CB - FA
CB - Draft
S - FA
S - Draft
 
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No Ndamukong Suh visit to Patriots in the works as of right now
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The New England Patriots have been known to take in players with questionable attitudes in the past. So when the rumors began to float around that defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh may be paying a visit to Foxborough, it wasn’t exactly shocking.


But as it turns out, Suh will not be visiting the Patriots—for now.
 
A mixture of high / low FA signings, Trades and of course the draft. Looks about like I thought it would. 10 draft picks and 12 thru FA / trade.

I wonder how the Texans look

The big splash FA signings you are advocating for are a very small percentage of that roster. The majority of those FA additions are bargain deals from the scrap heap. Very little FA risk taken overall.

And I'd lump trades in with the draft, as picks are the ammo used to make the transactions. So trades would go along with managing your draft resources well.
 
The big splash FA signings you are advocating for are a very small percentage of that roster. The majority of those FA additions are bargain deals from the scrap heap. Very little FA risk taken overall.

And I'd lump trades in with the draft, as picks are the ammo used to make the transactions. So trades would go along with managing your draft resources well.

I’d like to see the Texans take more shots on guys who were highly regarded as prospects but just weren’t a fit with the team that drafted them for whatever reason like the Patriots often do with their buy low/sell high approach. This offseason so far they got former 1st round picks Danny Shelton and Cordarelle Patterson for late round picks.

Two talented players at bargain prices.
 
The big splash FA signings you are advocating for are a very small percentage of that roster. The majority of those FA additions are bargain deals from the scrap heap. Very little FA risk taken overall.

And I'd lump trades in with the draft, as picks are the ammo used to make the transactions. So trades would go along with managing your draft resources well.

This is what I'm saying, but you do need those small percentage of splash moves when the teams you're competing against are making splash moves.
 
This is what I'm saying, but you do need those small percentage of splash moves when the teams you're competing against are making splash moves.

I don't think you make splash moves just because other teams are and you're trying to keep up with the Joneses. I think that's bad business led by desperation and that's how teams get in cap trouble.

But I do agree with you that occasionally it's a good idea to strike big in FA if it's the right guy at the right time.

The big FAs are usually receiving very competitive offers from numerous other teams, so it tends to take a risky contract offer to pull him in. I would generally prefer a less risky approach, snagging underrated guys on cheap, short term deals.

But if you're absolutely sure about a guy then you go for it. I've never been against that. I just believe there are way fewer of those opportunities out there than people seem to think.
 
Well i'd take a close look at Ebron

Funny as this is. XSF and Brian Cushing are open to return on the CHEAP. Wonderful depth if you ask me. XSF tape is not good, he might not get signed... Cush and his PED problems might not get signed. Clark too would be wonderful depth. Screw pride etc..... its a darn paycheck.

TE position needs to be fixed. IMHO with the peices we have got, cant wait to draft and develop. Cause all our draft picks should not have any starters but development guys.
 
Well i'd take a close look at Ebron

Funny as this is. XSF and Brian Cushing are open to return on the CHEAP. Wonderful depth if you ask me. XSF tape is not good, he might not get signed... Cush and his PED problems might not get signed. Clark too would be wonderful depth. Screw pride etc..... its a darn paycheck.

TE position needs to be fixed. IMHO with the peices we have got, cant wait to draft and develop. Cause all our draft picks should not have any starters but development guys.

I just went back and refreshed myself on Su'a-Filo's NFL Combine notes and he was pretty much projected as an ugly but effective LG....but the interesting thing that was mentioned, they thought his best fit might be in a ZBS. Seems like the Texans have a full roster of OL that are best suited to work in a ZBS....why in the hell is the coaching staff so bent on running a power blocking scheme?

If the staff could transition the OL to a ZBS, then I'd be fine with taking a cheap flier on Su'a-Filo.

As for Cushing, he's just hasn't been the same player, at any given time, without the juice so I would pass on bringing him back unless he's like to give coaching a whirl.
 
Well i'd take a close look at Ebron

Funny as this is. XSF and Brian Cushing are open to return on the CHEAP. Wonderful depth if you ask me. XSF tape is not good, he might not get signed... Cush and his PED problems might not get signed. Clark too would be wonderful depth. Screw pride etc..... its a darn paycheck.

TE position needs to be fixed. IMHO with the peices we have got, cant wait to draft and develop. Cause all our draft picks should not have any starters but development guys.

The draft would be just fine to get Day1 TE starters. Texans TE's have been blocking TE's since OD was no longer here and that situation began and ended with poor OL play. So this new group will get a lot of work as blockers before the Texans have to worry about the rest of their game, unless the OL has been fixed.
 
Well i'd take a close look at Ebron

Funny as this is. XSF and Brian Cushing are open to return on the CHEAP. Wonderful depth if you ask me. XSF tape is not good, he might not get signed... Cush and his PED problems might not get signed. Clark too would be wonderful depth. Screw pride etc..... its a darn paycheck.
I too would be fine with bringing all of those guys back, all depends on definition of “cheap”. I could live with XSF as a versatile backup. “Backup” being the keyword there. I could live with Cushing being the 4th ILB, or even play some at OLB. The key there, though, is he’d have to be open to playing STs. I’m also all for bringing Clark in to be an insurance policy at LT. If we can’t find anyone better, Clark I think can hold down the fort for one year.
 
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Will he be able to handle our advanced route tree? He has issues running the correct routes.

That's really going to depend on how well the OL is playing. If Watson can stand in the pocket and get through his progressions, then Bryant could be kept on a simple route plays. If Watson is running for his life, like he did most of last season, Bryant could free-lance and become a very nice compliment to Hopkins.

I actually like the idea of Bryant being signed. I think teams would initially continue to respect Hopkins first and foremost which would leave the ball completely in the court of Bryant and Fuller to make teams pay for their double teams. I think Bryant has plenty left in the tank and should the Cowboys cut him...then you could add a payback on his shoulders. This has the potential to be a carbon copy Honey Badger situation...and it just so happens, the Texans could use a potential impact at WR.
 
Texansballer74, I see every team on that list except the Texans! I know you're trying to make a point but "it doesn't do any good to pour salt in the wound!" :D
 
I am stunned he got a contract with anyone. As bad as he is he did start 53 games last four seasons...
I think it goes to show the lack of talent at OT in the league right now. Nate Solder was made the highest paid OT in the league, and he’s never even made a pro bowl.
 
Well i'd take a close look at Ebron

Funny as this is. XSF and Brian Cushing are open to return on the CHEAP. Wonderful depth if you ask me. XSF tape is not good, he might not get signed... Cush and his PED problems might not get signed. Clark too would be wonderful depth. Screw pride etc..... its a darn paycheck.

TE position needs to be fixed. IMHO with the peices we have got, cant wait to draft and develop. Cause all our draft picks should not have any starters but development guys.

Not a bad idea at all. Do positions need upgrades? Of course but I hVe no problem seeing former starters going down the depth chart instead of out the door if the price is right and there are no truly better options. Doesn’t work in all situations but as a bridge to the next year it will work.
 
Not a bad idea at all. Do positions need upgrades? Of course but I hVe no problem seeing former starters going down the depth chart instead of out the door if the price is right and there are no truly better options. Doesn’t work in all situations but as a bridge to the next year it will work.

Maybe it will light a fire under XSF who probably thought he would have some sort of market.

He might realize his NFL career could be ending if he doesn't improve.
 
Maybe it will light a fire under XSF who probably thought he would have some sort of market.

He might realize his NFL career could be ending if he doesn't improve.
One would think XSF would have had a fire lit last year in a contract year. I really don't think motivation is the problem w/ XSF -- it's hand technique. He hasn't learned to punch and lock onto defenders chest area and hold a block. He whiffs way too much on pass blocks because of this and isn't much of a downfield run blocker because of it also. I think he's still got the size/power/agility to do quite well at guard but the hands aren't there. Either he's been coached up and just can't master it, or he hasn't been coached up.
 
Have you seen an OLmen get better under OB's OL coaches?
I can't say that I have -- but I was taught the proper technique in high school. It's difficult for me to imagine that NFL coaches aren't better than HS coaches, but I guess it's possible.
 
Not worth the price tag or potential locker room trouble. No need for a diva #2 WR

If he's willing to do a Badger type of deal, then it would be worth the time to bring him for a meeting. At this point in his career, if he signs with a new team, especially one with a solid WR1 already in place, then he should fully understand what his position is with his new team. Hopefully, a guy like Bryant would also understand the wealth of knowledge he possesses in regards to the WR position.
 
Have you seen an OLmen get better under OB's OL coaches?

The O-line play with the Texans has gotten worse every year under BOB and I wonder how much of it is coaching and how much of it is them just not finding the the right players for "BOB's Offensive System," the few times they have actually drafted an O-lineman or got one in FA! It was easy under Kubes because he ran a WCO and they knew what kind of linemen they needed to run that system. But, BOB seems to want linemen that can play in any system and those are a lot harder to find. There's not too many 6'5", 320 lbs O-linemen out there that can be both light and nimble on their feet and also the "bulldozer" mauler type that plays the power game. Brandon Brooks is one that comes to mind and we know what happened to him. :mad:

These past few years it seems all the Texans have been doing is getting scraps off the FA pile and drafting developmental players. Most of the scraps are gone now and I guess we'll find out how the coaching is doing with Davenport, Fuller, and whoever else they get in this upcoming Draft.
 
If he's willing to do a Badger type of deal, then it would be worth the time to bring him for a meeting. At this point in his career, if he signs with a new team, especially one with a solid WR1 already in place, then he should fully understand what his position is with his new team. Hopefully, a guy like Bryant would also understand the wealth of knowledge he possesses in regards to the WR position.

These are all things that he would take into account if he weren’t a diva/locker room problem.

Could you imagine how Dez would react if he got the 3-5 targets/game Sammy Watkins got last season instead of his usual 10+?
 
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If he's willing to do a Badger type of deal, then it would be worth the time to bring him for a meeting. At this point in his career, if he signs with a new team, especially one with a solid WR1 already in place, then he should fully understand what his position is with his new team. Hopefully, a guy like Bryant would also understand the wealth of knowledge he possesses in regards to the WR position.

You think he would accept being a #2 or more likely #3 WR at this point with his history of demanding the ball more as a #1?
 

he was an UDFA... nowhere to go but up. He was injured his first year and didn't play. His 2nd year he reverted to his college level that had him as best center in the draft and possible high round pick (IIRC)

If the coaches thought he was all that, Martin would have not been drafted
 
I would think that The O-line instruction would not be on the head coach, but rather with the line coach. However, the head coach should be able to see if he is doing his job correctly and take action accordingly. Do we know if our line coach is someone who is well regarded in that capacity? If not, then there is likely the issue and should be dealt with. If he is quality, then the goods he is working with are the issue and that can take a season or two to rectify.
 
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