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Which off-season moves would you like the Texans to make? (Roster/FA)

infantrycak said:
Since the merits of Kaep ended up getting discussed in the NSZ, here is my take (and DBCooper's):



I'm not a huge fan either. I do think he is/was a QB that had to be accounted for or he would eat you on broken plays. Also a QB that needs a coach who can work with him instead of someone wanting Playdoh.

But dude did get to the SB and then CCG. Alex Smith's last full season he got to CCG, had 17 TDs & 5 INTs.

Again, not really my style as he does look like he can get blown off course. If we had Schaub starting, Kaep would be a hell no backup. But with DW, Kaep is as damn near an ideal vet backup as you're going to get.

RGIII would be also but he's more broken and frankly I worry my about his head because it's in the locker room. Is he dedicated at all ... and willing to be a backup?
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I’d take Kaep over RGIII
 
powda said:
Can you all stop calling him the honey badger? Maybe just "badger." I don't call other men "honey."

Just saying. Lol
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And yet it's a perfect description...honey
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"Ahh, ya doesn't has to call me Johnson! You can call me Ray, or you can call me Jay, or you can call me Johnny or you can call me Sonny, or you can call me RayJay, or you can call me RJ... but ya doesn't hafta call me Johnson."
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Bill Saluga late 1970s
 
TexansBull said:
LT - Davenport
LG - Kelemete
C - Martin
RG - Fulton
RT - Henderson
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Davenport was a rookie who struggled.

Henderson has Crohn's and has missed tons of games. No one would pay him more than 1 year, $4 million with heavy incentives..

Fulton and Kelemente will have their first shots as full-time starters.

Martin showed flashes but also struggled and has been nagged by injuries.


Might be good, but far from certain. I feel best about our new guards.
 
We have got to upgrade our TE situation.

Luke warm or what response!

Aaron Wilson‏@AaronWilson_NFL 4h4 hours ago


When general manager Brian Gaine was asked if Ryan Griffin can be the Texans' No. 1 tight end after C.J. Fiedorowicz retired, he replied: 'I feel like Ryan Griffin can be a contributing tight end for us and our offense'
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Sarah Barshop‏@sarahbarshop 4h4 hours ago


Texans tight ends caught 53 percent of their targets last season, which was the worst in the NFL, according to @ESPNStatsInfo. The group scored just two combined receiving touchdowns, which was tied for last in the league.
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Happy we signed Joseph back. He'll be good in a mentor role. Only has a few good games a year nowadays but still a valuable piece to have.

Load up on that OL and secondary baby.

Also tight end por favor.
 
I'm throwing this out there and sure it won't be popular. Lagarrette Blount could work wonders in this system, can take the snaps between the tackles, move Miller to a 3rd down/change of pace back where he was successful previously, and give Foreman time to heal up and hopefully take over the reins in that role later on.

There's quite a few intriguing talents around at plenty of positions still.
 
gafftop said:
If this is the reason for cap

Like the price but I really did not watch him last year. Does he have anything left? Did he play full season healthy?
If so maybe ???????
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He wasn't used in New Orleans, nor was he happy. NO traded him to the Cardinals where he pretty much let everyone know that he can still turn up the production, aka vintage AP in the first game. He was injured and missed a lot of games but that basically represented another season where his body didn't get beat. If he feels like he's healthy and ready to go, I'd give him a shot at a veterans minimum deal that had the requisite incentives built in.

Even at 33 years old, AP is a complete back who could give Foreman the opportunity to heal versus rushing back to soon. If he produces and Foreman is on schedule...maybe the Texans have a decent trade chip at the deadline in Miller.
 
TexansBull said:
LT - Davenport
LG - Kelemete
C - Martin
RG - Fulton
RT - Henderson
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I don't like the idea of penciling Martin in as the starting Center. I know his draft position may make this inevitable but it's these kind of moves that just set a team back.

Mancz played a full season in 2016 and Martin got the job for 2017....bottom line, Mancz had a way better season with essentially the same personnel. I think if O'Brien and Devlin let these guys have an honest competition for the starting job, don't be surprised if Mancz wins the job.

I like both Fulton and Kelemete but Allen will still be there and I think he would win the starting LG spot...that's not a bad thing.

As for the LT's left in free agency....they're an injury prone and under-performing group. Most have had some serious injuries, one has a serious blood clotting issue and one is considered a RD1 bust. Regardless, the Texans still need a LT. The highest rated LT still on the board is Greg Robinson....a RD1 bust who was playing ok last season as a starter when he got injured.
 
The Texans want/need a TE that's good at blocking but can occasionally catch a pass. Anderson & Griffin are the direct opposite of that. Ebron is reportedly shaky at both so it stands to reason they wouldn't be looking at him.
 
Brandon420tx said:
Kaep has no merits as a player anymore. He lost his job to Blaine Gabbert. A guy who is so badly shell shocked that he has a tendency to close his eyes through his throwing motion. If Kaep had the right stuff needed to compete in the NFL still, then yes, I'd entertain the thought of him being the backup QB here. But he doesn't. Nothing in the world will overcome the fact that he lost his job to Gabbert to me. It has very little to do with his social justice priorities for me.
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Because of all the 'noise' sounding his political views, people forget this. He regressed in each of his last 2 years that he played. Is that is a function of Harbaugh leaving? Or is it because Harbaugh hid CK's flaws? I don't know. I would much rather take a flier on a rookie in the later rounds or someone who is guaranteed mediocre who has been playing football in the last 2 years and doesn't have all the baggage that CK does. The reality is that our season hangs on the health of Watson.

A lot of you doubt O'Brien's coaching abilities, so do you think he can get what Harbaugh got out of him? From what I saw from CK, I always felt he wasn't a very accurate passer. Something that doesn't fit into O'Brien's system.
 
OptimisticTexan said:
I don't like the idea of penciling Martin in as the starting Center. I know his draft position may make this inevitable but it's these kind of moves that just set a team back.

Mancz played a full season in 2016 and Martin got the job for 2017....bottom line, Mancz had a way better season with essentially the same personnel. I think if O'Brien and Devlin let these guys have an honest competition for the starting job, don't be surprised if Mancz wins the job.

I like both Fulton and Kelemete but Allen will still be there and I think he would win the starting LG spot...that's not a bad thing.

As for the LT's left in free agency....they're an injury prone and under-performing group. Most have had some serious injuries, one has a serious blood clotting issue and one is considered a RD1 bust. Regardless, the Texans still need a LT. The highest rated LT still on the board is Greg Robinson....a RD1 bust who was playing ok last season as a starter when he got injured.
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Mancz is a puzzle to me. He had that excellent year at center, but he doesn't seem to have made a positive impression on the staff. He was tendered the minimum and hasn't resigned. Meanwhile, Kelemete was signed to a nice contract; and who appears to be a Mancz clone. Wish I knew what it is about Mancz which relegates him to a backup role in the opinion of the staff.
 
Number19 said:
Mancz is a puzzle to me. He had that excellent year at center, but he doesn't seem to have made a positive impression on the staff. He was tendered the minimum and hasn't resigned. Meanwhile, Kelemete was signed to a nice contract; and who appears to be a Mancz clone. Wish I knew what it is about Mancz which relegates him to a backup role in the opinion of the staff.
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You gotta wonder if it has anything to do with his history of shoulder injuries
 
Jadmakaveli said:
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Although he said Nate never said what team it was you can definitely conclude it was the Texans



Can’t force someone to come to us.

EDIT: conflicting report

https://twitter.com/patricia_traina/status/974632056801112064?s=21
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More context on Solder: It appears maybe the Patriots weren't in on him at the end and it was between Giants and another team (likely Texans).
https://twitter.com/RyanHannable/status/974649492606726145

Looks like Traina might have misunderstood:

https://twitter.com/Patricia_Traina/status/974645602939297792
 
House of Pain said:
Because of all the 'noise' sounding his political views, people forget this. He regressed in each of his last 2 years that he played.
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Nice to say regressed. Helps to say to regressed to what which was 16 TDs, 4 INTs & 90.7 rating. That rating was higher than the prior 2 years. Odd regression.

Mr. Beat Him Out was 5 TDs, 6 INTs & 68.4 rating. Yeah, he beat him out on the field....riiiight.

Number19 said:
In the social media world. In the same world where posters claim our president is a Russian stooge.
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Don't go further into politics.

Number19 said:
Mancz is a puzzle to me. He had that excellent year at center, but he doesn't seem to have made a positive impression on the staff.
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As CnD has pointed out several times, Mancz has battled injury.
 
infantrycak said:
Nice to say regressed. Helps to say to regressed to what which was 16 TDs, 4 INTs & 90.7 rating. That rating was higher than the prior 2 years. Odd regression.

Mr. Beat Him Out was 5 TDs, 6 INTs & 68.4 rating. Yeah, he beat him out on the field....riiiight.
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7 fumbles in 12 games (never fumbled more than 3 times any other season) and a total QB rating of 43.4 and 49.5 (never lower than 60.0 before that point). I can pick and choose stats too. Looking only at stats in football will never give you the whole picture. CK regressed. I watched him with my own eyes.

I hope you keep sending him love letters, he really needs the support.
 
House of Pain said:
7 fumbles in 12 games (never fumbled more than 3 times any other season) and a total QB rating of 43.4 and 49.5 (never lower than 60.0 before that point). I can pick and choose stats too. Looking only at stats in football will never give you the whole picture. CK regressed. I watched him with my own eyes.

I hope you keep sending him love letters, he really needs the support.
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Another comment about picking and choosing Kaep’s stats... the majority of his success was in garbage time much like Brian Hoyer here or Blake Bortles in 2015.

My only take on him:

Is he a backup QB quality player? Yes

Is he worth the baggage/media circus? No

Much like Tebow and Manziel... if QB (or any player) is dominating the headlines and a distraction to your team (and is a low end starter/backup) they will not be in the league.
 
Don't want him as a starter. We have a virtually unique starter. We need a backup who can practice the same playbook.

Please with the picking and choosing. TDs, INTs & rating have long been the top 3. 4th would be comp % and he has hovered around 60% thru his career. Borderline, although he is known to take more shots down field.
 
welsh texan said:
I'm throwing this out there and sure it won't be popular. Lagarrette Blount could work wonders in this system, can take the snaps between the tackles, move Miller to a 3rd down/change of pace back where he was successful previously, and give Foreman time to heal up and hopefully take over the reins in that role later on.
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I don't see why not. Blount fits the description you laid out. I'd still try to come up with a RB in the draft, at some point.

infantrycak said:
Don't want him as a starter. We have a virtually unique starter. We need a backup who can practice the same playbook.
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The Texans have to find some QBs at some point. Heinicke can't take all of the snaps in OTAs and minicamps.
 
Mr teX said:
That should quell all the talk from Steelb and others about the FO not wanting to shell out the money to get this guy.
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Gotta pay significantly more than equal to get a guy to move his wife away from her family. Oh well, this is the Giants gain, time to move on.
 
House of Pain said:
Because of all the 'noise' sounding his political views, people forget this. He regressed in each of his last 2 years that he played. Is that is a function of Harbaugh leaving? Or is it because Harbaugh hid CK's flaws? I don't know. I would much rather take a flier on a rookie in the later rounds or someone who is guaranteed mediocre who has been playing football in the last 2 years and doesn't have all the baggage that CK does. The reality is that our season hangs on the health of Watson.

A lot of you doubt O'Brien's coaching abilities, so do you think he can get what Harbaugh got out of him? From what I saw from CK, I always felt he wasn't a very accurate passer. Something that doesn't fit into O'Brien's system.
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I just wish the Kaep thingy would stop screwing up this thread. Particularly since there's 0 chance of Kaep ever becoming a Texan.
 
OK so Solders in-laws are in CT so another family issue along with the little boys hospital and doctors already being in the area so those are obviously factors the Texans were unable to compete with and so it certainly appears to have come down to non monetary factors for the Solder family on their final decision. Looks like the Texans were willing to fork over 35M guaranteed, what else could they do ?
Ok so for those folks still pizzed at the previous GM for the fix we are in at LT, I say go home and insert some more pins in your R.S. doll.
More surprised than disappointed that we haven't signed any bigger names than we have ? Was that new GM Gain being wise and prudent with our precious cap space, or
as some allege was our miserly ownership not letting Gain spend the way he wanted to in free agency ?
 
IMO the Texans dodged a bullet by not signing the very average Solder, but if they're willing to throw around that type of money for need then why isn't some safety help lined up with the type of talent out there?
 
IDEXAN said:
OK so Solders in-laws are in CT so another family issue along with the little boys hospital and doctors already being in the area so those are obviously factors the Texans were unable to compete with and so it certainly appears to have come down to non monetary factors for the Solder family on their final decision. Looks like the Texans were willing to fork over 35M guaranteed, what else could they do ?
Ok so for those folks still pizzed at the previous GM for the fix we are in at LT, I say go home and insert some more pins in your R.S. doll.
More surprised than disappointed that we haven't signed any bigger names than we have ? Was that new GM Gain being wise and prudent with our precious cap space, or
as some allege was our miserly ownership not letting Gain spend the way he wanted to in free agency ?
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Moving here means his son would've had access to the Med center which most definitely competes with the care his son was recieving where he is now. Looks like it just came down to family & you can't knock either side for how it all went down.
 
AngryNateFTW said:
Football is a 3 phase sport. Special teams is a phase we need to take care of.
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Exactly. I mean do people realize the last time we had a kickoff returned for a TD was damn near 10 years ago in 2009 with Jacoby Jones?

I don't have the stats, but i'm damn positive every team in the NFL has had at least 1-2 kickoffs returned for a TD in that same time frame; maybe more.

So if this guy is a special teams wizard and can help with us getting better there, by all means sign that guy...............................................................just don't let our depth at cb get so bad that he has to see the field on defense.
 
Good get for ST but he should only play on D in a pinch. Pretty big contract for a gunner! God knows the Texans need help at ST, so I'm happy.

Looking over available FA remaining, the only real plethora of talent remaining is at safety. There is one great option, a couple of very good options, another couple of good options, and a couple of fair options.

I'd go all in on the "not honey" badger, and if he bails and signs elsewhere I would immediately turn my attention to the next on my list. If that is Reid, so be it. Dude is a moron, but he is far less in the spotlight than Kaep, and I can live with his political views if he isn't a locker room lawyer or continues to cause waves. Beyond him, there are still some decent to good options that would represent an upgrade and/or provide depth.

I'd also try to sign Gaines at CB either way. I'd also look at DL and LB for help in FA if possible, and make the draft mostly about the offense. I'd draft a tackle, a TE and a RB in round 3 and maybe look at a WR with return capability in rd 4. After that, just go with ST aces either side of the ball.
 
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