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Which off-season moves would you like the Texans to make? (Roster/FA)

Yeah, I am fine with each signing - the problem is, they didn‘t get anyone exciting. We have so much cap space - and so big holes. And at least some big names were available at the OL and in the secondary. So far we have got guys that were either backups or fringe starters. Like I said, I like each signing, they will help. But having one or two big upgrades would have been nice.

Now FA is not over. Texans were very conservative so far. Let‘s see them make a crazy run at Mattieu or Fuller - or maybe do a trade for a veteran LT.

It's okay, I don't need exciting. After 4 years of the Bill O'Brien regime, I'd just like competence.

I am hoping we get Mathieu too, if we can ditch the annoying "Honey Badger" thing.
 
If they can get lucky and find a LT that can start early in his career at the top of the 2nd they should do whatever it takes (2019 2nd) to get the OT that can help keep Watson healthy. I like Crosby/Harrison/Nigerian dude. If they hit on the LT or RT, I think the Henderson will be playing LT next yr the OL will be much improved. Gotta hit on that pick.

Every GM in the NFL is watching how the Texans handled addressing their most important area of need...OL and when the draft rolls around, these GM's know the Texans will be in desperation mode to get a top LT....getting that opportunity to move up is going to cost them a heck of lot more than next season's RD2 pick. GM's are going to smell blood in the water and like any healthy shark, they'll be heartless in demanding 2- RD3, RD4 and they'll take that 2019 RD2 as icing on the cake.

In this case, the Texans need to find a team just as desperate as them in regards to getting an answer for a high demand need position. The Texans could try shopping Clowney to Tampa Bay for a RD2 and a 2019 RD2. Not sure Clowney lands the team a RD1 since he's in the final year of his contract. I don't think it's against league rule (I may be wrong) if they want to discuss an extension/new contract before finalizing the deal.

If the Texans got this far into the thought process, they could go shopping for a replacement and probably get a 3-4 DE and OLB for less than what Clowney would cost them this year and definitively in 2019 when he has to have that new contract.

3- RD2 picks in 2019 could easily be bargaining chips for moving into RD1 if the right prospect is on the board. Otherwise...hell, that'd be 4 picks in the first 2 rounds in 2019. Those RD2 picks could also be used to go backwards and bring in some additional RD3 and RD4 picks if the draft is deep once again in the team's areas of need.
 
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I think the Texans could complete their offensive overhaul by signing:

QB- Brandon Weeden / **Really makes sense from a knowledge and financial standpoint. The remaining FA QB's wouldn't make sense since none would prove to absolutely better or more versed in this offense.**

LT- Greg Robinson / **Literally one of the last LT. I'd like to get him signed before teams get desperate and drive the price up on a prove-it type of player. If Henderson was worth the roll....Robinson should be in the same boat. I think the Texans could get him for roughly the same deal as the Henderson deal.**

RB- Alfred Blue / **I like him b/c of his knowledge of the system and the fact that his game definitely took a nice step forward as the season was winding down. The price will be right and the progression off last season should be there to take advantage of.**

RB- Adrian Peterson / **A low-ball signing with upside potential...if not from a performance angle, then from a future HOF mentoring angle. It wouldn't be a bad signing unless they gave him A "In His Prime" P type of money. Give him a 1 year deal and see if his production would warrant a second season. I would still draft a RB with the hopes that he makes someone expendable.**

WR- Justin Hunter / **I would like to add him to the mix. I think he would be another solid bargain for the price. I think Watson could help this guy improve his game and make him a threat in this offense.

This group would leave plenty of cap money available to set the defense up pretty nicely.

There should be roster space available for a couple of draft picks to make their cases on the OL. I'm also going with the Texans to draft a couple of TE's since there just might b a couple that could make an impact.
 
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I think the Texans could complete their offensive overhaul by signing:

QB- Brandon Weeden / **Really makes sense from a knowledge and financial standpoint. The remaining FA QB's wouldn't make sense since none would prove to absolutely better or more versed in this offense.**

LT- Greg Robinson / **Literally one of the last LT. I'd like to get him signed before teams get desperate and drive the price up on a prove-it type of player. If Henderson was worth the roll....Robinson should be in the same boat. I think the Texans could get him for roughly the same deal as the Henderson deal.**

RB- Alfred Blue / **I like him b/c of his knowledge of the system and the fact that his game definitely took a nice step forward as the season was winding down. The price will be right and the progression off last season should be there to take advantage of.**

RB- Adrian Peterson / **A low-ball signing with upside potential...if not from a performance angle, then from a future HOF mentoring angle. It wouldn't be a bad signing unless they gave him A "In His Prime" P type of money. Give him a 1 year deal and see if his production would warrant a second season. I would still draft a RB with the hopes that he makes someone expendable.**

WR- Justin Hunter / **I would like to add him to the mix. I think he would be another solid bargain for the price. I think Watson could help this guy improve his game and make him a threat in this offense.

This group would leave plenty of cap money available to set the defense up pretty nicely.

There should be roster space available for a couple of draft picks to make their cases on the OL. I'm also going with the Texans to draft a couple of TE's since there just might b a couple that could make an impact.

Of that list aside from Weeden i’d rather just have rookies come in and compete for those roster spots that these guys would fill. Would rather hope we hit on a draftpick than hope for proven busts/jags to finally “get it”.
 
Weeden looked horrible last time he played. I'm fine never bringing him back.

Could you give us a name of a FA QB that might give the team a better chance in a 1-2 game starting situation? I've looked a the list and I'm not that impressed...especially if they were to cost more and have less working knowledge of this offense. I'm not saying Weeden is the end-all but I rationalized why I would sign him if it were me but I'm open to any good recommendations.
 
Of that list aside from Weeden i’d rather just have rookies come in and compete for those roster spots that these guys would fill. Would rather hope we hit on a draftpick than hope for proven busts/jags to finally “get it”.

My Mock Draft would absolutely address those very issues....these players mentioned would serve as nothing more than bridge players who have an opportunity to improve their NFL status while setting the Texans back very little in regards to financial obligations. The majority of top offensive FA's have been taken off the table and the Texans still have some holes to patch.

Texans still have plenty of top tier defensive FA's for the picking and I could imagine that playing with the core players on this defense and RC could be really attractive. This is where my extra money would go at the moment especially with RC returning to the sideline as DC.
 
My Mock Draft would absolutely address those very issues....these players mentioned would serve as nothing more than bridge players who have an opportunity to improve their NFL status while setting the Texans back very little in regards to financial obligations. The majority of top offensive FA's have been taken off the table and the Texans still have some holes to patch.

Texans still have plenty of top tier defensive FA's for the picking and I could imagine that playing with the core players on this defense and RC could be really attractive. This is where my extra money would go at the moment especially with RC returning to the sideline as DC.

Fair enough, I guess I just don't want to waste valuable practice reps on a guy like Greg Robinson when Davenport and a rookie could be getting extra time to develop.

Agree on targeting defense rest of free agency. Really hoping we add another key player in the secondary. Need depth similar to OL overhaul. Would love to target Gaines/Mathieu/Melvin/Boston/Fuller... heck throw in Jo Jo while we're at it! We learned last season you can never have enough DBs when we played the Pats STARTING a CB that we had just signed that week (Johnathan Banks) and he was released less than a month after signing.
 
I think the Texans could complete their offensive overhaul by signing:

QB- Brandon Weeden / **Really makes sense from a knowledge and financial standpoint. The remaining FA QB's wouldn't make sense since none would prove to absolutely better or more versed in this offense.**

LT- Greg Robinson / **Literally one of the last LT. I'd like to get him signed before teams get desperate and drive the price up on a prove-it type of player. If Henderson was worth the roll....Robinson should be in the same boat. I think the Texans could get him for roughly the same deal as the Henderson deal.**

RB- Alfred Blue / **I like him b/c of his knowledge of the system and the fact that his game definitely took a nice step forward as the season was winding down. The price will be right and the progression off last season should be there to take advantage of.**

RB- Adrian Peterson / **A low-ball signing with upside potential...if not from a performance angle, then from a future HOF mentoring angle. It wouldn't be a bad signing unless they gave him A "In His Prime" P type of money. Give him a 1 year deal and see if his production would warrant a second season. I would still draft a RB with the hopes that he makes someone expendable.**

WR- Justin Hunter / **I would like to add him to the mix. I think he would be another solid bargain for the price. I think Watson could help this guy improve his game and make him a threat in this offense.

This group would leave plenty of cap money available to set the defense up pretty nicely.

There should be roster space available for a couple of draft picks to make their cases on the OL. I'm also going with the Texans to draft a couple of TE's since there just might b a couple that could make an impact.
Like except not sure about AP. How much would he cost is biggest question. Plus does he ever catch the ball? Would not assume Foreman will be the guy coming off injury. I am not sure what else is available in fa for rb but I do agree they need to pick one up in FA.
I also would pick up a TE in fa if possible.

I am beginning to get the feeling the Texans big move may be the announcing a BIG Clowney contract. That is what a fanboy like McNair would like. Sorry but that would set this franchise back many years. Surprise me new Brain Trust and don't do it.

We have enough cap space to make us competitive again if used wisely. With Watson healthy I like our chances in a playoff game where we are underdogs better than I ever have before.
 
A little info on our FA OL:

RT- Seantrel Henderson / 6-7 @ 331 lbs / U Miami - BUF / RD7 Pick / Projected as a RD2 or RD3 RT with plenty of upside. Pulled a positive at the Combine and dropped like a rock.

RG- Zach Fulton / 6-5 @ 316 lbs / Tennessee - KC / RD6 Pick / Although he's always played multiple positions on the OL...his NFL projection was RG.

OG- Senio Kelemete / 6-4 @ 307 lbs / U Washington - NO / RD5 Pick / Again, jack of all trades as a 6th OL with NO. He's always been projected to be at his best on the inside. That's a lot of guys (Fulton, Martin, Mancz & Fuller) on the inside and each one of them have the versatility to be OG/OC's primarily.

Possibilities:

OG- Justin Pugh / 6-4 @ 307 lbs / Syracuse - NYG / RD1 Pick / Why didn't the Texans make him a higher priority to sign? Might've come down to money....really don't know why they didn't pursue. At this point, Pugh no longer makes sense....the team has a gluten of interior and versatile OL.

LT- Greg Robinson / 6-5 @ 332 lbs / Auburn - DET / RD1 Pick / I've already stated that he's probably the only LT left worth signing...and his signing should cost the Texans no more than what Henderson did. It is what it is guys, the best LT's are off the board....now they have to roll the dice and hope that Watson can help make them look better.


Watson made Clark/lamm and XSF all look competent last year and every single guy we’ve picked via FA looks to be better than those 3.

Also Greg Robinson started for the jags last year. It’s not like this guy has been sitting at home crushing cheeseburgers.
 
Like except not sure about AP. How much would he cost is biggest question. Plus does he ever catch the ball? Would not assume Foreman will be the guy coming off injury. I am not sure what else is available in fa for rb but I do agree they need to pick one up in FA.
I also would pick up a TE in fa if possible.

I am beginning to get the feeling the Texans big move may be the announcing a BIG Clowney contract. That is what a fanboy like McNair would like. Sorry but that would set this franchise back many years. Surprise me new Brain Trust and don't do it.

We have enough cap space to make us competitive again if used wisely. With Watson healthy I like our chances in a playoff game where we are underdogs better than I ever have before.

If the Texans could get AP for a veterans minimum type of deal with plenty of incentives for a single 2018 season...would this be workable? Sort of like a "nothing ventured, nothing lost" kind of risk.
 
LT- Greg Robinson / 6-5 @ 332 lbs / Auburn - DET / RD1 Pick / I've already stated that he's probably the only LT left worth signing...and his signing should cost the Texans no more than what Henderson did. It is what it is guys, the best LT's are off the board....now they have to roll the dice and hope that Watson can help make them look better.
Is Robinson a free agent and not still under contract with the Lions (or another team) ?
 
Watson made Clark/lamm and XSF all look competent last year and every single guy we’ve picked via FA looks to be better than those 3.

Also Greg Robinson started for the jags last year. It’s not like this guy has been sitting at home crushing cheeseburgers.

This Greg Robinson played for Detroit last season as a backup who spot started some games last season and is currently a UFA. I think last season in general was the only thing giving this former RD1 bust an opportunity to play this season versus calling it quits on his NFL career. My hope, he wants to salvage his career at the ripe old age of 25 years old. Imagine if practicing against Watt and Mercilus daily elevated his game? Hell, if he fades the money on the table isn't a cap wrecking ball.

Worth adding...look at the Spotrac list of available LT's left in FA and Robinson would be the only one left worth inviting in for a look-see.
 
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Also Greg Robinson started for the jags last year. It’s not like this guy has been sitting at home crushing cheeseburgers.

I think you're talking about Cam Robinson. Greg "Bust" Robinson was the OT that was traded from Rams to Lions that was waived with an injury designation.
 
Could you give us a name of a FA QB that might give the team a better chance in a 1-2 game starting situation? I've looked a the list and I'm not that impressed...especially if they were to cost more and have less working knowledge of this offense. I'm not saying Weeden is the end-all but I rationalized why I would sign him if it were me but I'm open to any good recommendations.

I legitimately believe we are going to draft one late/UDFA or wait to see who gets cut from other teams later in the off-season.
 
Per Aaron Wilson twitter... looks like CJ took a steep paycut:

C.J.Fiedorowicz, who's contemplated retirement, has reworked his contract. He's now due a $790,000 base salary for 2018. He was advanced $229,000 in salary
 
Yes ..we cheer for a sack even if a sack with a fumble recovery is better. I want INTs but if a DB doesn't give up a TD ever (Colvin against slots) that's pretty good when attached to less than 1 yard per catch.

This. Hes not Deion Sanders...and we're not paying him to be Sanders. There is a LOT to be said for not allowing a touchdown in 500+ coverage snaps with less than a yard given up per snap. The kid is ascending.

Im high on Colvin as a starter, but we certainly need another corner. Butler would have been awesome to have, but that doesnt mean that Colvin wasnt a good investment.
 
I legitimately believe we are going to draft one late/UDFA or wait to see who gets cut from other teams later in the off-season.

My target RD7 kind of late or as an UDFA if he makes it there is 2 year starting LT, Bentley Spain / NC. He's been solid both of his starting seasons. I look forward to his Pro Day where I suspect his draft status could get a bump.
 
Per Aaron Wilson twitter... looks like CJ took a steep paycut:

C.J.Fiedorowicz, who's contemplated retirement, has reworked his contract. He's now due a $790,000 base salary for 2018. He was advanced $229,000 in salary
So he's not going to retire, certainly got mixed feeling about that ?
 
But that still will not prevent an injury from happening. He is a young running type QB. You act like he was getting killed last season. Savage statue ash was the one getting slaughtered out there last season not Watson.
If Watson runs as much as he did last year, either by design, spontaneity or necessity, he will not last the season. Teams' defenses will be better equipped to have learned his tendencies, and will be "there" to "greet" him often.
 
Houston Texans received another $810,000 in bonus credit for 2018 on JJ Watt's deal. Refund came through insurance the team has on Watt; and injury in 2017.

Houston Texans received $141,118 in 2018 bonus credit from Cushing's 2017 suspension.

Between the Fiedorowicz's reworked deal, credit on Watt & Cushing; and a couple of other adjustments...Houston Texans gained ~$6.201m in cap space.

Per @TexansCap
 
Houston Texans received another $810,000 in bonus credit for 2018 on JJ Watt's deal. Refund came through insurance the team has on Watt; and injury in 2017.

Houston Texans received $141,118 in 2018 bonus credit from Cushing's 2017 suspension.

Between the Fiedorowicz's reworked deal, credit on Watt & Cushing; and a couple of other adjustments...Houston Texans gained ~$6.201m in cap space.

Per @TexansCap

Link: https://twitter.com/TexansCap/status/974278896031068165
 
Yeah, I am fine with each signing - the problem is, they didn‘t get anyone exciting. We have so much cap space - and so big holes. And at least some big names were available at the OL and in the secondary. So far we have got guys that were either backups or fringe starters. Like I said, I like each signing, they will help. But having one or two big upgrades would have been nice.

Now FA is not over. Texans were very conservative so far. Let‘s see them make a crazy run at Mattieu or Fuller - or maybe do a trade for a veteran LT.

My thinking, while everyone is talking about available cap space, is that the TFO knows they have some guys coming up that need contracts, mainly Clowney and may be preparing to open the wallet for him and don't want to hamstring us for next year when we do have to sign a first and second round pick....
 
If Watson runs as much as he did last year, either by design, spontaneity or necessity, he will not last the season. Teams' defenses will be better equipped to have learned his tendencies, and will be "there" to "greet" him often.

I agree that defenses will be better equipped to contain him if he picks up where he left off last season.

That being said, the kid matured by leaps and bounds from his first game to the last. The play in Seattle where he was likely injured was in the pocket and was on the oline. He became a very smart runner otherwise. I think its very likely that with an offseason of study he comes back light years ahead of where he was. Watson was developing as a mobile passer IMHO with a throw it away or run second and slide mentality.

EDIT: The play where he was injured, if memory serves, was also on the RB
 
The Texans are pursuing The Honey Badger relentlessly per Aaron Wilson. One of Mathieu's strengths is that he can play either safety position as well as cover slot receivers. Paired with Colvin who has not allowed a single pass for a TD in 4 years, our DB situation should become a formidable one.

I wouldn't be surprised that signing Mathieu could be a more expensive endeavor than Colvin.
 
The Texans are pursuing The Honey Badger relentlessly per Aaron Wilson. One of Mathieu's strengths is that he can play either safety position as well as cover slot receivers. Paired with Colvin who has not allowed a single pass for a TD in 4 years, our DB situation should become a formidable one.

I wouldn't be surprised that signing Mathieu could be a more expensive endeavor than Colvin.
Is this something Wilson tweeted out just now?
 
The Texans are pursuing The Honey Badger relentlessly per Aaron Wilson. One of Mathieu's strengths is that he can play either safety position as well as cover slot receivers. Paired with Colvin who has not allowed a single pass for a TD in 4 years, our DB situation should become a formidable one.

I wouldn't be surprised that signing Mathieu could be a more expensive endeavor than Colvin.

He will undoubtedly cost more than Colvin. Probably looking at a deal similar to Malcolm Butler's BUT he is the perfect chess piece in today's NFL with his ability to line up anywhere in the secondary. Adding Jo Jo as well as Honeybadger alongside Colvin would add much needed improvement to the secondary.
 
He will undoubtedly cost more than Colvin. Probably looking at a deal similar to Malcolm Butler's BUT he is the perfect chess piece in today's NFL with his ability to line up anywhere in the secondary. Adding Jo Jo as well as Honeybadger alongside Colvin would add much needed improvement to the secondary.

Hopefully not that expensive, but I think he should end up the highest paid safety. Hes not prime Earl Thomas, but he is damn good in his own right.

Certainly Mathieu is a MUCH better safety than Butler is a CB

EDIT: Nevermind...didnt realize that Eric Berry was at 13m. Pay the man and make it happen.
 
Per Ian Rapaport's twitter Jo Jo is back! Now if we can get Honey Badger you gotta feel good about this defense heading into next season.

The #Texans have agreed to terms to bring back CB Jonathan Joseph on a 2-year deal, source said.
 
Good for him. Thats a scary situation, and hopefully he made enough money to last him a long time.

Now we need a few tight ends
From the beginning, that was the only smart decision. But I'm not sure that in the end, if it was not a decision "helped" by the Texans. If so, hats off to them. However, this list allows Fiedo to return only as a Texan should he decided to return to the NFL.
I hope he stays retired.
 
Hopefully not that expensive, but I think he should end up the highest paid safety. Hes not prime Earl Thomas, but he is damn good in his own right.

Certainly Mathieu is a MUCH better safety than Butler is a CB

EDIT: Nevermind...didnt realize that Eric Berry was at 13m. Pay the man and make it happen.

He'll cost that much because it's free agency, he's 25 and he can play CB at a quality starter's level if needed. I wouldn't say he's on the level of Earl Thomas or Eric Berry but he's got top 5 safety potential in a passing league.
 
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The Texans are getting close to bringing back veteran CB Johnathan Joseph. They've been wanting to keep him and could do it today.

9:17 AM - Mar 15, 2018

Im curious if we have the opportunity to sign a younger CB why not do it? It would give us some stability at the position for at least a few years.

If JJO retires after this season or next, we've got to hope that Kevin Johnson has progressed or we will be back in the market for another CB. If Johnson hasn't progressed then we are in the market for 2 more.
 
Im curious if we have the opportunity to sign a younger CB why not do it? It would give us some stability at the position for at least a few years.

If JJO retires after this season or next, we've got to hope that Kevin Johnson has progressed or we will be back in the market for another CB. If Johnson hasn't progressed then we are in the market for 2 more.

We signed a younger CB Aaron Colvin. Jo Jo stabilizes the position with dependable play. Maybe not a locked in #1 CB at this stage of his career but he's not going to embarrass the team. Provided K Jo makes a jump in a contract year and the Texans hit on a CB in the draft I am feeling really good about the CBs on the roster. NOW just need to get that safety to help make their job easier :)
 
The Texans are pursuing The Honey Badger relentlessly per Aaron Wilson. One of Mathieu's strengths is that he can play either safety position as well as cover slot receivers. Paired with Colvin who has not allowed a single pass for a TD in 4 years, our DB situation should become a formidable one.

I wouldn't be surprised that signing Mathieu could be a more expensive endeavor than Colvin.
As I recall Badger slipped dramatically in the Draft because of concerns about drug problems at LSU ? So has there been any recurrence of those issues in the NFL ?
 
Texans, since O’Brian came, now even more so with Gaine, appear to adhere pretty close to the Patriot model. They don’t Go Hard for Big free agents they Go Hard for value and will not overpay. Now that Texans have a franchise QB, the winning will follow? Jury’s out, its tough, competitive and very fluid.

Basicly Texans have upgraded or flat out replaced offensive line deficiencies with exception of a LT. They will have to move up into the 2nd rd. to get one in draft (mark it down). I’m ok with that, just look what the market bears.

Colvin is a terrific signing, he could step in day one starting corner opposite Kevin Johnson. Move Kareem to nickle/safety. What is still available are some dynamic safeties in all sizes, shapes and skill sets but remember the value consideration. Instead of honey badger how about former Longhorn Kenny Vaccaro, S/CB, Saints? Think he only had a pulled groin (past season, which impacted his value lower) finishing out his 5th year of rookie contract. He would be ideal for Texans checking off all the boxes. Already signed one Saint!

That certainly doesn't describe the O'Brien regime.

The Texans have consistently overpaid during his time (either in free agency or trading up in draft).

Colvin was only $2-3 million cheaper per year in guaranteed money than Butler, and I wouldn't be surprised if the Texans matched the offer for Solder, but he wanted to stay in the Northeast for family reasons.

This has been my biggest criticism. They overpay for busts and create tons of holes and depth issues.
 
As I recall Badger slipped dramatically in the Draft because of concerns about drug problems at LSU ? So has there been any recurrence of those issues in the NFL ?
He has evidently not had a drug issue in the NFL. One thing that I hope does not rear its ugly head again is knee issues. He had a fantastic rookie season in 2013 and an All-Pro season in 2015 with the Cardinals, but each of those years ended with torn ACLs. These 2 injuries have taken away some of his earlier explosiveness.
 
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Since Gaine didn't spend the money on the LT, I would be all in on the Honey Badger and if I'm Gaine, I pay whatever it takes to make him an offer he can't refuse.

Yes, he had problems back in the day, but he's been a model citizen in the NFL. Dude is still young and versatile as hell - both safety spots, corner, can be used as a blitzer, and guess what - he can return kicks if they wanted him to.

He's a top 5 safety in the league and would instantly become the best safety the Texans have ever had by far. With all due respect to Glover Quinn and Daniel Manning who were fine players in their own right, they can't touch Mathieu's ability. And beyond those two guys, it's mostly been a ghost town back there.

He would instantly make the D a force to be reckoned with.
 
That certainly doesn't describe the O'Brien regime.

The Texans have consistently overpaid during his time (either in free agency or trading up in draft).

Colvin was only $2-3 million cheaper per year in guaranteed money than Butler, and I wouldn't be surprised if the Texans matched the offer for Solder, but he wanted to stay in the Northeast for family reasons.

This has been my biggest criticism. They overpay for busts and create tons of holes and depth issues.

Hopefully times are changing down on Kirby.
 
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