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Steel B's Texans Mock 1.0

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Rd. 3 Tyrell Crosby- OT Oregon 6'5 310, Crosby is a guy with great feet and plenty of functional strength. Great in pro pro and takes very good angles in run blocking. Only reason he falls is he tore an ACL his Jr. yr but has come back strong as ever. I would trade a 2019 pick to trade into the middle 2nd to get him. Day 1 starter and a massive upgrade.

Rd. 3 Joseph Noteboom- OT/OG, TCU 6'5 315, Noteboom plays with a nasty steak the Texans OL has been missing. He has played both OT spots as well as OG in his time at TCU. Take great angles and is a very smart, 1st or 2nd team all big 12 for 3 yrs. From Killeen, Tx.

Rd. 3 Holton Hill- CB, Texas 6'2 200, Hill is very fluid and seems to understand route concepts, he is fast but is better in zone coverage than in man, although he certainly has the ability to play man. Hill will come out early due to being suspended for pot. So there is some risk involved but Hill is a 1st rd talent. Sean Smith who used to play for the Chiefs is who I would compare him too.

Rd.4 Zach Crabtree- OT Oklahoma St. 6'7 301, Crabtree is a 4 yr starter, mountain of a man who is tough as they come, plays with a mean streak. Crabtree is a really good run blocker who is smart (2nd team academic Big 12) Team leader, Good enough feet, has Basketball Backgrund. Helped lead a potent run game in Ok. St.'s prolific offense. They run behind the right side/Crabtree on most short ydge situations.

Rd.6 Chase Hansen- SS Utah 6'3 216, Hansen is a big a big athletic SS, who can diagnose plays and arrives with an attitude. Has missed time with a leg injury and is currently out of the lineup with an undisclosed injury. Hansen has been injury prone throughout his career, but when healthy he's a stud.

Rd.6 DaeShawn Hamilton- WR Penn St 6'0 200, Hamilton is a fast WR with great quickness. He has really good hands. Hamilton is what Braxton Miller was supposed to be. I see a little Wes Welker in Hamilton.

Rd.7 Todd Kelly- S Tennessee 5-11 200, Kelly is a team leader, with the best character a guy can possibly have, although Kelly only has avg speed he always is around the ball. Solid tackler who I can guarantee you will make the ST's better. He wont pull a Hal and not touch down a guy who catches the ball and then lets the WR get up and score a TD. Dad played 4 seasons with the 49ers.

This mock adds tough smart talented OL and takes advantage of one of the strengths of this draft. Adding a talented but troubled guy like Hill is a risk but it's a small risk in the 3rd, since Ricky usually blows picks in this rd anyways. Might as well blow it on a guy that play. I actually would use one of the 6ths to trade up into the 3rd for Crabtree. He reminds me of Schraeder from the Falcons. The rest of the draft is adding an injured guy at S that's as good as almost any S in this draft. A WR that I believe BOB recruited and another S that has a family with NFL lineage. Alot of these guys are academic all americans.
 
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I'm pretty familiar with Hill. On talent, he is a first round CB in my book. I think he's in the discussion for best CB in the country. He's phenomenal in zone but he's no slouch at all in man. He literally erases half the field for the Texas pass defense. And he's a plus run defender for his position also.

Texas plays mostly zone because their DC loves to zone blitz. But the two games they went heavy man were against the top two WRs in the Big XII so they could keep Hill locked onto those guys all game.

Denzel Mims from Baylor has 8 TDs in ten games and averages 100 yards per game. Against Hill he finished 4-42. Baylor scored 7 points. James Washington from Oklahoma St has 9 TDs in ten games and averages 116 yards per game. Against Hill he finished 4-32. OSU scored 10 points in regulation, 3 more in OT.

The only teams that really tried to test him were Maryland and San Jose St in the first two games of the season. He snagged a pick six in each.

Now to the bad. Despite being All-Conference as a true freshman, he was benched for most of his sophomore year for consistently clashing with his position coach. It can be conceded that his position coach was terrible at his job, but Hill reportedly openly disrespected him in front of the entire position group on multiple occasions. And he has reportedly failed three drug tests for pot in the last five months, leading to his current suspension.
 
bah007 said:
I'm pretty familiar with Hill. On talent, he is a first round CB in my book. I think he's in the discussion for best CB in the country. He's phenomenal in zone but he's no slouch at all in man. He literally erases half the field for the Texas pass defense. And he's a plus run defender for his position also.

Denzel Mims from Baylor has 8 TDs in ten games and averages 100 yards per game. Against Hill he finished 4-42. Baylor scored 7 points. James Washington from Oklahoma St has 9 TDs in ten games and averages 116 yards per game. Against Hill he finished 4-32. OSU scored 10 points in regulation, 3 more in OT.

The only teams that really tried to test him were Maryland and San Jose St in the first two games of the season. He snagged a pick six in each.

Now to the bad. Despite being All-Conference as a true freshman, he was benched for most of his sophomore year for consistently clashing with his position coach. It can be conceded that his position coach was terrible at his job, but Hill reportedly openly disrespected him in front of the entire position group on multiple occasions. And he has reportedly failed three drug tests for pot in the last five months, leading to his current suspension.
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He will never be a Texan. Just too many red flags.
 
steelbtexan said:
Rd. 3 Tyrell Crosby- OT Oregon 6'5 310, Crosby is a guy with great feet and plenty of functional strength. Great in pro pro and takes very good angles in run blocking. Only reason he falls is he tore an ACL his Jr. yr but has come back strong as ever. I would trade a 2019 pick to trade into the middle 2nd to get him. Day 1 starter and a massive upgrade.

Rd. 3 Joseph Noteboom- OT/OG, TCU 6'5 315, Noteboom plays with a nasty steak the Texans OL has been missing. He has played both OT spots as well as OG in his time at TCU. Take great angles and is a very smart, 1st or 2nd team all big 12 for 3 yrs. From Killeen, Tx.

Rd. 3 Holton Hill- CB, Texas 6'2 200, Hill is very fluid and seems to understand route concepts, he is fast but is better in zone coverage than in man, although he certainly has the ability to play man. Hill will come out early due to being suspended for pot. So there is some risk involved but Hill is a 1st rd talent. Sean Smith who used to play for the Chiefs is who I would compare him too.

Rd.4 Zach Crabtree- OT Oklahoma St. 6'7 301, Crabtree is a 4 yr starter, mountain of a man who is tough as they come, plays with a mean streak. Crabtree is a really good run blocker who is smart (2nd team academic Big 12) Team leader, Good enough feet, has Basketball Backgrund. Helped lead a potent run game in Ok. St.'s prolific offense. They run behind the right side/Crabtree on most short ydge situations.

Rd.6 Chase Hansen- SS Utah 6'3 216, Hansen is a big a big athletic SS, who can diagnose plays and arrives with an attitude. Has missed time with a leg injury and is currently out of the lineup with an undisclosed injury. Hansen has been injury prone throughout his career, but when healthy he's a stud.

Rd.6 DaeShawn Hamilton- WR Penn St 6'0 200, Hamilton is a fast WR with great quickness. He has really good hands. Hamilton is what Braxton Miller was supposed to be. I see a little Wes Welker in Hamilton.

Rd.7 Todd Kelly- S Tennessee 5-11 200, Kelly is a team leader, with the best character a guy can possibly have, although Kelly only has avg speed he always is around the ball. Solid tackler who I can guarantee you will make the ST's better. He wont pull a Hal and not touch down a guy who catches the ball and then lets the WR get up and score a TD. Dad played 4 seasons with the 49ers.

This mock adds tough smart talented OL and takes advantage of one of the strengths of this draft. Adding a talented but troubled guy like Hill is a risk but it's a small risk in the 3rd, since Ricky usually blows picks in this rd anyways. Might as well blow it on a guy that play. I actually would use one of the 6ths to trade up into the 3rd for Crabtree. He reminds me of Schraeder from the Falcons. The rest of the draft is adding an injured guy at S that's as good as almost any S in this draft. A WR that I believe BOB recruited and another S that has a family with NFL lineage. Alot of these guys are academic all americans.
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If you're going to do this , you should give us an idea of what your OL looks like next year . Is XSF going to Spain to be a matador ? Inquiring minds need to know .
 
I don't really know any of the college players yet since I haven't watched hardly any college football but this looks like it would be a pretty good haul just by the positions you picked. It sure would make the O-line and secondary stronger provided the picks turn out to be good ones. My guess is though that the Texans may try to move up to the 2nd round to get an OT and what picks they use will depend on how far up they want to move. What I hope they avoid is using 2 or even 3 of their 3rd round picks to move up. If they can hang on to two of the three 3rd round picks while still moving up into the 2nd round they might have a better chance of filling some of these holes with better players. A lot of time between now and then and a lot can happen to some of these players to make them rise up the boards or fall. Should be fun to see what happens.
 
Your mocks are always my favorite Steelb. Load up on offensive lineman first and always (I would take O-line first or second round almost every year), and then attack a particular area of concern as aggressively as possible.
 
bah007 said:
Now to the bad. Despite being All-Conference as a true freshman, he was benched for most of his sophomore year for consistently clashing with his position coach. It can be conceded that his position coach was terrible at his job, but Hill reportedly openly disrespected him in front of the entire position group on multiple occasions. And he has reportedly failed three drug tests for pot in the last five months, leading to his current suspension.
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Ouch.
Not too sure that would sit too well with Vrabel - not to mention O'Brien.
 
No way in hell the Texans are selecting that many o-linemen with 3 of their 1st 4 picks. My guess is they use 2 to move up and get a premium prospect for the o-line and go hard in FA after someone.
 
bah007 said:
I'm pretty familiar with Hill. On talent, he is a first round CB in my book. I think he's in the discussion for best CB in the country. He's phenomenal in zone but he's no slouch at all in man. He literally erases half the field for the Texas pass defense. And he's a plus run defender for his position also.

Texas plays mostly zone because their DC loves to zone blitz. But the two games they went heavy man were against the top two WRs in the Big XII so they could keep Hill locked onto those guys all game.

Denzel Mims from Baylor has 8 TDs in ten games and averages 100 yards per game. Against Hill he finished 4-42. Baylor scored 7 points. James Washington from Oklahoma St has 9 TDs in ten games and averages 116 yards per game. Against Hill he finished 4-32. OSU scored 10 points in regulation, 3 more in OT.

The only teams that really tried to test him were Maryland and San Jose St in the first two games of the season. He snagged a pick six in each.

Now to the bad. Despite being All-Conference as a true freshman, he was benched for most of his sophomore year for consistently clashing with his position coach. It can be conceded that his position coach was terrible at his job, but Hill reportedly openly disrespected him in front of the entire position group on multiple occasions. And he has reportedly failed three drug tests for pot in the last five months, leading to his current suspension.
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This is the kind of info and insight that makes this MB so special.

I would be willing to risk a 3rd on a guy like Hill BOB/Butler seem to be the type of no nonsense coaches that Hill needs to reach his massive potential. If they miss all they've lost is a 3rd. Well worth the risk/reward. IMHO With that said No way Hill becomes a Texan. Another guy I like in the 3rd is Duke Dawson from Florida. He's not as talented as Hill but has great instincts.

Obviously you keep up with UT football as do I, Give us your opinions on the talent level of Noteboom/Crabtree.
 
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bah007 said:
I'm pretty familiar with Hill. On talent, he is a first round CB in my book. I think he's in the discussion for best CB in the country. He's phenomenal in zone but he's no slouch at all in man. He literally erases half the field for the Texas pass defense. And he's a plus run defender for his position also.

Texas plays mostly zone because their DC loves to zone blitz. But the two games they went heavy man were against the top two WRs in the Big XII so they could keep Hill locked onto those guys all game.

Denzel Mims from Baylor has 8 TDs in ten games and averages 100 yards per game. Against Hill he finished 4-42. Baylor scored 7 points. James Washington from Oklahoma St has 9 TDs in ten games and averages 116 yards per game. Against Hill he finished 4-32. OSU scored 10 points in regulation, 3 more in OT.

The only teams that really tried to test him were Maryland and San Jose St in the first two games of the season. He snagged a pick six in each.

Now to the bad. Despite being All-Conference as a true freshman, he was benched for most of his sophomore year for consistently clashing with his position coach. It can be conceded that his position coach was terrible at his job, but Hill reportedly openly disrespected him in front of the entire position group on multiple occasions. And he has reportedly failed three drug tests for pot in the last five months, leading to his current suspension.
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This is the kind of info and insight that makes this MB so special.

I would be willing to risk a 3rd on a guy like Hill BOB/Butler seem to be the type of no nonsense coaches that Hill needs to reach his massive potential. If they miss all they've lost is a 3rd. Well worth the risk/reward. IMHO With that said No way Hill becomes a Texan. Another guy I like in the 3rd is Duke Dawson from Florida. He's not as talented as Hill but has great instincts.

Obviously you keep up with UT football as do I, Give us your opinions on the talent level of Noteboom/Crabtree.


Mr teX said:
No way in hell the Texans are selecting that many o-linemen with 3 of their 1st 4 picks. My guess is they use 2 to move up and get a premium prospect for the o-line and go hard in FA after someone.
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I know they wont, I also know they should. BTW, Crosby is the elite guy that probably will fall to the 2nd and I would trade up for him in a heartbeat.

Thanks for the replies guys, I really like talking about college football and draft prospects. Keep the talk coming.
 
Scooter said:
Your mocks are always my favorite Steelb. Load up on offensive lineman first and always (I would take O-line first or second round almost every year), and then attack a particular area of concern as aggressively as possible.
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That's kinda what I do. I also try to yake the position strengths into account when I do one of these things. I'm looking forward to the guys on here doing their mocks. I always feel smarter after reading this forums members mocks.

Sometimes I only hear from some of you guys after the Texans crap the bed most seasons and the TT Mock Draft. It's that time of yr again. # Rams kicking their ass # Week 10.
 
Honoring Earl 34 said:
If you're going to do this , you should give us an idea of what your OL looks like next year . Is XSF going to Spain to be a matador ? Inquiring minds need to know .
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Davenport/Noteboom/Martin/Manz/Crosby.

Crabtee and a late cut to be a backup at OG/Clark

Pretty large upgrade in Talent and you've got a real good prospect in Crabtree that doesn't have to learn on the fly.

2019 Starting OL

Crosby/Noteboom/Martin/Mancz/Crabtree

Add a drafted OT that can play OG and you have a deep talented OL that's young but has experience and is very athletic. In short a group that can grow together.
 
I'm watching Crabtee against K-State right now. He's dominating/burying the K-State DE into the gound almost every play. I love the mean streak he plays with.
 
steelbtexan said:
Davenport/Noteboom/Martin/Manz/Crosby.

Crabtee and a late cut to be a backup at OG/Clark

Pretty large upgrade in Talent and you've got a real good prospect in Crabtree that doesn't have to learn on the fly.

2019 Starting OL

Crosby/Noteboom/Martin/Mancz/Crabtree

Add a drafted OT that can play OG and you have a deep talented OL that's young but has experience and is very athletic. In short a group that can grow together.
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They could use an upgrade in talent and attitude .
 
Honoring Earl 34 said:
They could use an upgrade in talent and attitude .
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The attitude left when Gibbs walked out of the building on Kirby.

BTW, I cant watch Crosby, but I assume he's doing well since Freeman is running all over Arizona and Herbert has both a running/throwing TD.
 
Enjoyed Thread and comments. We need so much so I don't think I'd trade into second as players stand now. To get Crosby we may be able to get him with one of our picks in 3rd due to injury but if he does well in Senior Bowl and passes physical he might end up second round. Most evaluations of college players are preseason & not very accurate now. Okorafor could be there. I don't like most OTs for 2018 and think we could get similar OLinemen day three. Free agency for this position is not good but we might be able to get a guard.
 
badboy said:
Enjoyed Thread and comments. We need so much so I don't think I'd trade into second as players stand now. To get Crosby we may be able to get him with one of our picks in 3rd due to injury but if he does well in Senior Bowl and passes physical he might end up second round. Most evaluations of college players are preseason & not very accurate now. Okorafor could be there. I don't like most OTs for 2018 and think we could get similar OLinemen day three. Free agency for this position is not good but we might be able to get a guard.
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If they can improve the OG position and trade up for Crosby, then draft a guy like Okafor/Crabtree the OL would have good young talent to build on in the future.
 
My son snuck in a great point during our weekly phone conversation. The majority of OL, like QB's, are playing in college systems that do not lend themselves to an easy or quick transition to NFL Football. Could be why so many teams are being affected by OL injuries...not by the injuries themselves but by the quality of their available depth. Unfortunately, there is no "crystal ball" available to indicate which players and from which rounds are going to handle the transition in the quickest way possible. I firmly agree that this is where a top notch staff makes the difference.

In regards to the Texans...this is where RS has severely dropped the ball. Almost all of his OL picks have failed and it's been hit and miss on his UDFA and FA acquisitions at best.
 
OptimisticTexan said:
My son snuck in a great point during our weekly phone conversation. The majority of OL, like QB's, are playing in college systems that do not lend themselves to an easy or quick transition to NFL Football. Could be why so many teams are being affected by OL injuries...not by the injuries themselves but by the quality of their available depth. Unfortunately, there is no "crystal ball" available to indicate which players and from which rounds are going to handle the transition in the quickest way possible. I firmly agree that this is where a top notch staff makes the difference.

In regards to the Texans...this is where RS has severely dropped the ball. Almost all of his OL picks have failed and it's been hit and miss on his UDFA and FA acquisitions at best.
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This is something I've been reading and hearing about also. NFL line coaches are complaining that the O-linemen coming out of college today are just not being taught a lot of the fundamentals anymore in college due to time constraints and the spread offenses. Many come to the NFL and have to learn from the ground up about hand/foot techniques, leverage, and how to move/direct an opponent. It's taking a longer time to get them NFL ready. They were also saying that almost all of the big schools (Bama, LSU, USC, Ohio St, etc...) that have NFL bound O-linemen may only play 3 or 4 other schools a year that have some quality defensive players on them. So a top rated LT from USC, for example, may only see 1 or 2 DE's during his JR or SR year that will be good enough to also make it in the NFL, and this makes it tough to evaluate the quality of that LT and if he is even going to make it himself in the NFL. If they go to a small school, like Davenport did, it will be even tougher to evaluate. It will take more time to develop a player like that and it's a bigger risk.
 
Insideop said:
This is something I've been reading and hearing about also. NFL line coaches are complaining that the O-linemen coming out of college today are just not being taught a lot of the fundamentals anymore in college due to time constraints and the spread offenses. Many come to the NFL and have to learn from the ground up about hand/foot techniques, leverage, and how to move/direct an opponent. It's taking a longer time to get them NFL ready. They were also saying that almost all of the big schools (Bama, LSU, USC, Ohio St, etc...) that have NFL bound O-linemen may only play 3 or 4 other schools a year that have some quality defensive players on them. So a top rated LT from USC, for example, may only see 1 or 2 DE's during his JR or SR year that will be good enough to also make it in the NFL, and this makes it tough to evaluate the quality of that LT and if he is even going to make it himself in the NFL. If they go to a small school, like Davenport did, it will be even tougher to evaluate. It will take more time to develop a player like that and it's a bigger risk.
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Nice t see that someone commented on the drift of that post.

Hey infantrycak, name the great ones that RS drafted and kept. Don't tell me about the ones that got away b/c that too is a RS problem and a coaching staff problem if they became better with another team.
 
More or less failed
Studdard
Frye
Caldwell
Smith
Newton
Mondek
Williams
Su'a-Filo

More or less success
D Brown
Brooks
Jones
Martin

No contest
Quessenberry

So by my thoroughly unofficial count, that's 4 good picks, 8 not so good, and a no contest due to completely unforeseen circumstances.

Is this par or less than other notable GM's?
 
Late round picks who are reserves are not failures.

But the more important point is ascribing the draft solely to RS is patently false.
 
Mollywhopper said:
More or less failed
Studdard
Frye
Caldwell
Smith
Newton
Mondek
Williams
Su'a-Filo

More or less success
D Brown
Brooks
Jones
Martin

No contest
Quessenberry

So by my thoroughly unofficial count, that's 4 good picks, 8 not so good, and a no contest due to completely unforeseen circumstances.

Is this par or less than other notable GM's?
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Based on where we drafted the guys I think it is better than the average GM. Su'a-Filo and Williams are the only picks I would fault him for. Brennan Williams was a real head scratcher. Guy never showed much ability at UNC, had injury history and anyone that looked at his twitter before the draft would know he was more interested in WWE than the NFL. Newton was a great pick. So was Brooks, Brown and Jones. Martin is yet to be seen.

Our problem is the lack of attention we have shown in the draft for the O-line (only 1 1st rounder on that whole list). IMO, that comes from straight from McNair, drafting big uglies in the first round doesn't put fans in the seats and he is all about $$$, not winning.
 
infantrycak said:
Late round picks who are reserves are not failures.

But the more important point is ascribing the draft solely to RS is patently false.
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Don't know if any of this was directed at me or my post, but had no intention of taking any side on the matter, just providing some info.
 
Mollywhopper said:
Don't know if any of this was directed at me or my post, but had no intention of taking any side on the matter, just providing some info.
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The part about reserves was. 5th+ picks should be considered great if they ever become starters. If they are depth like Smith & Studdard that doesn't make them failures. Hell only something like 25% of 7th rounders ever make a team at all.
 
infantrycak said:
The part about reserves was. 5th+ picks should be considered great if they ever become starters. If they are depth like Smith & Studdard that doesn't make them failures. Hell only something like 25% of 7th rounders ever make a team at all.
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I think that's fair. And I was definitely categorizing based off of whether or not these guys were on the field helping the team or not. But that was also in part to just lazily keep the idea streamlined. Again though the goal not to judge harshly, just narrow the idea.

Could probably add something like a fourth category of guys with passing grades (nothing exceptionally good or exceptionally bad) based on expectation, ie Smith, Studdard.

4 good - 6 not so good - 2 adequate - 1 no contest
 
Not only has Ricky not been good at drafting OL, he's let 2 starters walk and made terrible FA replacement decisions in Allen. This doesn't even take into account the re-signing of Newton who was only slightly above average in his contract year.

But hey,, this isn't Ricky's fault.

Who has faith in Ricky finding 2 OL starters inFA, draft?

Roll call here. I will start a thread on this later.
 
steelbtexan said:
Who has faith in Ricky finding 2 OL starters inFA, draft?

Roll call here. I will start a thread on this later.
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Going off history of rounds 3 and 4 -

Caldwell, B Williams, Su'a-Filo, Brooks, B Jones, N Martin

- where we look to have four picks in 2018, I'd put my faith at 50/50 at worst. You?
 
Mollywhopper said:
Going off history of rounds 3 and 4 -

Caldwell, B Williams, Su'a-Filo, Brooks, B Jones, N Martin

- where we look to have four picks in 2018, I'd put my faith at 50/50 at worst. You?
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30% at the high end. He hit one yr (Brooks/Jones) Missed on the rest.

N. Martin was a 2nd rder
 
3rd & 4th are:

Davenport - too early
Williams - fail
Brooks - great
Jones - good
Caldwell - fail

That's 50/50 or better.
 
infantrycak said:
3rd & 4th are:

Davenport - too early
Williams - fail
Brooks - great
Jones - good
Caldwell - fail

That's 50/50 or better.
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Yep,

The only great/good players got trained up in Houston and Ricky let them move on. But it does save $$$$, Which is why the Texans are where they are today. That's not conducive to winning a SB trophy.

Might as well go into the warroom and flip a coin before making a pick.
 
steelbtexan said:
Yep,

The only great/good players got trained up in Houston and Ricky let them move on. But it does save $$$$, Which is why the Texans are where they are today. That's not conducive to winning a SB trophy.

Might as well go into the warroom and flip a coin before making a pick.
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Again ascribing that decision to RS solo with zero proof.

In fact you were screaming right along with OB for more team speed so off they go and get Miller & Fuller. It's a cap league.

And funny, letting people go when they get too expensive is exactly what Belichick does. He seems to have some rings.
 
infantrycak said:
Again ascribing that decision to RS solo with zero proof.

In fact you were screaming right along with OB for more team speed so off they go and get Miller & Fuller. It's a cap league.

And funny, letting people go when they get too expensive is exactly what Belichick does. He seems to have some rings.
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Nothing can ever be ascribed to RS in your world, even if BOB tells you how talent is acquired.

Yes I wanted then to add speed, I thought Miller would be better than what he is, to be fair running behind this OL isn't like running behind the old Cowboys OL or for that matter the modern day Cowboys OL. Miller does lack vision though.

I liked the Fuller pick and still do, I didn't like tading up 1 spot to draft him, but I understand why Ricky did it after watching the Pats/Seahawks trade up directly in front of him to pick Jimmy G/Lockett.


BB doesn't ever let his best OL walk. Solder/Light/Vollmer etc... The only time he lets guys walk is when they've gotten old. Would that describe Brooks/Jones.
 
gs27 said:
Based on where we drafted the guys I think it is better than the average GM. Su'a-Filo and Williams are the only picks I would fault him for. Brennan Williams was a real head scratcher. Guy never showed much ability at UNC, had injury history and anyone that looked at his twitter before the draft would know he was more interested in WWE than the NFL.
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I still don’t understand why we fault the FO for players that get injured and are not able to recover. It’s football, injuries happen. There’s no such thing as players with perfect health coming out of college (excluding punters, kickers, and guys that simply don’t play). Correct me if I’m wrong, but Brennan only had one major injury while in college.
 
dream_team said:
I still don’t understand why we fault the FO for players that get injured and are not able to recover. It’s football, injuries happen. There’s no such thing as players with perfect health coming out of college (excluding punters, kickers, and guys that simply don’t play). Correct me if I’m wrong, but Brennan only had one major injury while in college.
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He didn't participate at combine because of both knee and shoulder issues. On the field he was inconsistent and never received all conference honors. His twitter account was ALL professional wrestling, not a peep about his team or football. Any one of those reasons alone, ok, just alot reasons not to draft him. Overall I think Rick has done better than most, that pick in particular was bad for a 3rd rounder.
 
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