CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
Osweiler will make $775,000, or a little under the league minimum, as the Cleveland Browns remain on the hook for more than $15 million of Osweiler's 2017 salary.
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QB Brock Osweiler to start preseason opener for Cleveland Browns
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infantrycak
Hall of Fame
$775k is minimum for 4-6 year players. Oz is in his 6th year.
Fred
Veteran
Yep. This really pees in the Cherrios of anyone who carries on (and on and on) about Os being completely worthless and Elway being a genius...
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infantrycak
Hall of Fame
Brownsfan
Waterboy
I think Elway is right about Osweiler. He may not be a starter right now, but he is at least an upper range backup, and he may still have starter potential.
I think Osweiler's problem in Cleveland was Kizer or, perhaps, Hue Jackson's desperate hope that Kizer is ready to start. Since Kizer is seen as the future, Osweiler had no future with the Browns. Conceivably, he might have been used as a backup, and the first year was already paid for. But what about subsequent years? Those would have involved crazy money for a backup?
With the Broncos, it is different. Osweiler has a league minimum contract with the Broncos and my guess is that Elway understands the problem with Osweiler better than most and knows the basic reason for his inaccuracy. My bet is that the Broncos will have Osweiler practicing a shortened stride all year. He won't play much, and nothing much will likely happen on the field this year, but Elway will have an inside view of Osweiler's progress and if there is a chance for his success as a starter, he will know and will most likely be able to sign Osweiler to a favorable long term contract next year if he thinks there is hope.
Of course, there are people who think John Elway is a idiot. I am not one of them.
I think Osweiler's problem in Cleveland was Kizer or, perhaps, Hue Jackson's desperate hope that Kizer is ready to start. Since Kizer is seen as the future, Osweiler had no future with the Browns. Conceivably, he might have been used as a backup, and the first year was already paid for. But what about subsequent years? Those would have involved crazy money for a backup?
With the Broncos, it is different. Osweiler has a league minimum contract with the Broncos and my guess is that Elway understands the problem with Osweiler better than most and knows the basic reason for his inaccuracy. My bet is that the Broncos will have Osweiler practicing a shortened stride all year. He won't play much, and nothing much will likely happen on the field this year, but Elway will have an inside view of Osweiler's progress and if there is a chance for his success as a starter, he will know and will most likely be able to sign Osweiler to a favorable long term contract next year if he thinks there is hope.
Of course, there are people who think John Elway is a idiot. I am not one of them.
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Scooter
Funky
I think it's quite a bit more simple than that. Elway is fallible just like everyone else. He has locked on to something he sees that probably just isn't there. Brock is a pitcher, not a quarterback - he sucks. However, one thing that could help him as a Bronco is years developing a timing with their receivers, namely Thomas and Sanders. He's also playing for pennies and can be cut without costing anything since Siemian and Lynch are basically locked in. Brock for the Broncos is probably similar to Keenum for us - capable of showing up in an emergency and executing a very simple game plan because of familiarity.
I'd rather have a bag of Doritos as 3rd string quarterback, but that's just me.
Brownsfan
Waterboy
Except for the silly crap, not a bad analysis, but I would demur slightly with the Keenum/Osweiler comparison. Keenum and Osweiler are two totally different quarterbacks. Keenum is a scrappy guy who is limited but sound mechanically and tends to play above his ability, and Osweiler is a guy who has all the measurables but has been inconsistent with his play due to mechanical flaws. It is understandable why some people would prefer Keenum as a backup; it is also understandable why a guy like Elway would tend to think he might be able to fix Osweiler.
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Scooter
Funky
Complete opposites, aside from their similar ability to perform a very specific role for very specific teams that I stated.
Speedy
Former Yeller Dweller
Going to have to disagree with that. I'll admit I didn't watch a lot of Os in Denver, but after seeing him extensively in Houston, and how Hopkins numbers dropped significantly, I took a look back at the Denver WR numbers when OS was in. Demaryius Thomas had a huge drop in his catch rate with Os throwing the rock, just like Nuk did.
Os may be just backup material, but upper range backup I think not.
Osweiler's problem is that he's not good. He has a long telegraphed windup and he can't put the ball where his receivers can make a play way more often than he does.
I don't think Elway is an idiot, but these guys do get it wrong occasionally. They're not perfect.
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
Nicki JhabvalaVerified account@NickiJhabvala
Brock Osweiler, on if he has any regrets about leaving Denver as a free agent:
12:22 PM - 4 Sep 2017
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He has about 16 million reasons he has no regrets.
Brock Osweiler, on if he has any regrets about leaving Denver as a free agent:
12:22 PM - 4 Sep 2017
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He has about 16 million reasons he has no regrets.
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
Probably just as an emergency until Lynch returns. However, recently, Elway has not shown much success in his roster transactions and choices.
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
Funny how the target keeps shifting. We should be like Indy, we should be like Pittsburgh, we should be like Denver...
They're wise until they aren't.
Nicki JhabvalaVerified account@NickiJhabvala
Brock Osweiler, on if he has any regrets about leaving Denver as a free agent:
12:22 PM - 4 Sep 2017
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He has about 16 million reasons he has no regrets.
exactly! But it's more that that isn't it? 16 million for this year alone... how much did he make last year?
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
TexansBull
Hall of Fame
Sounds like someone won the game against the house. Not exactly his fault.
Section516
Warrior
Giants playing with house money, Brocky O in game down 14..Lets see him air it out!
Bulls on Parade
2017 Astros: Earn It!
The Browns quarterback situation is so dire maybe they should have just kept Brock Osweiler. They wouldn't be any worse than 0-7 right now. They'd likely have a win or two. For that massive contract and money that they're paying him they may as well have gotten something, and I mean ANYTHING, out of him. Why did they have to let him go? Are they trying to go 0-16 this year?
The Browns' talented and stingy defense has played well enough to win at least three of their games this year. Their run defense is ranked 6th best in the league right now at only 83.7 rushing yards allowed per game. They held DeMarco Murray to 18 carries and 59 yards rushing in a 12-9 overtime loss against the Titans.
The Browns' talented and stingy defense has played well enough to win at least three of their games this year. Their run defense is ranked 6th best in the league right now at only 83.7 rushing yards allowed per game. They held DeMarco Murray to 18 carries and 59 yards rushing in a 12-9 overtime loss against the Titans.
Pretty sure they got something out of him.
Our 2nd round pick and the ability to meet league minimum if nothing else
http://www.denverpost.com/2017/10/31/broncos-quarterback-options-explored-vance-joseph/
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Don't look now Texans' fans, the Brockster may be on the verge of starting his first 2017 regular season game and I wouldn't be surprised if John Elway is offering his input on this situation. Of course I'm joking here, Elway is Mr Bronco and he's as close as it gets to Jerry Joness in being the one person making the ultimate decision for any NFL team.
Elway is after all the guy we know for sure who was willing to pay the most for BO in the 2016 offseason. See we don't know if it was O'Brien, Smith, or the the owner himself who out bid Elway for BOs services?
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
Actually we don't know that Elway wouldn't have bid more. Oz never gave him a chance to counter.
Yea that's true isn't it. With the ego Elway allegedly has I just wonder if he would have permitted the Texans to outbid him for his boy had he had right of first refusal ?
Anyway it's been a real merry go round for the Brockster but his wallet sure got a lot fatter from the experience and how ironic would be if he ends up under center in Denver again ?
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Denver Broncos head coach Vance Joseph has informed his team that Brock Osweiler will take over the starting quarterback duties over Trevor Siemian, the team announced on Wednesday
https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/11/01/brock-osweiler-broncos-starting-quarterback
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So now it's official, the Brockster is back in the saddle at Mile-high.
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TexansBull
Hall of Fame
I wish him the best of luck except against the Texans.
xtruroyaltyx
Hall of Fame
So Basically they don’t have a qb.
I wanted to bring McCoy in to coach Osweiler. I'm truly interested in how this will turn out.