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With non 1st teamer Peters having intercepted the pass, it would have had to be either Weeden or Watson.Strange to cut it short with a rookie QB, no?
I wonder who threw the INT and who is hanging wrs out to dry
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With non 1st teamer Peters having intercepted the pass, it would have had to be either Weeden or Watson.Strange to cut it short with a rookie QB, no?
I wonder who threw the INT and who is hanging wrs out to dry
With non 1st teamer Peters having intercepted the pass, it would have had to be either Weeden or Watson.
I think OBrien would say that he has not had the players to work the system. Every season it seems as though he is simplifying.Can't wait to see what three years learning a system that doesn't work looks like.
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still..he had 1000 rushing 4.0 and 200 receiving 6.1 avg basically what he got at Miami. I think part if not most of problem was allowing him to think he could run between tackles. That area should belong to Foreman and Blue & the latter needs to stop running horizontal and hit the hole.Despite "decent" performance by Miller last year, it was evident that he demonstrated his own significant limitations. He did not show great vision........nor could he create things on his own.......nothing close to Dominick Williams and Arian Foster. And both Williams and Foster had the ability to avoid going down after the first and subsequent hits. Many plays last season I was left wondering what made Miller go down.
nah should have said better RB, OL, QB, WRs TEs....Changed it up just a little.
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right now he is a raw rookie that will be running an NFL offensive team. Our TEs, WRs and backs should bring him along nicely.That statement is illogical at best. The best collegiate defense ever can't compare with a NFL defense considering the size and speed of players on top of coaching.
Watson performed well at the collegiate level, right now is he a raw rookie
Let's not forget Miller wanted Miami to use him more especially up middle and one of the reason he signed with Houston. I think OB was trying to keep his shiny high $ back happy.I'm disappointed but not surprised regarding D Brown. Right now, he's holding all the chips. This line goes from average or perhaps even better than average to total and complete crap without Brown and he knows it.
As far as L Miller, he's not a bruiser and never has been. The Texans completely misused him. He needs to operate in space and use his speed and agility. If you're expecting him to be Earl Campbell light - forget it. It amazes me that coaches as experienced as OB can't see how badly they used him last year. He's a quarter horse and they had him pulling an old plow in the field until he died. It's a freaking crime. I'm hoping with our new RB onboard that Miller is used appropriately.
I read somewhere earlier that it was Watson who threw the pick. Maybe on the 12 observations thing on Facebook (from the official site)
Let's not forget Miller wanted Miami to use him more especially up middle and one of the reason he signed with Houston. I think OB was trying to keep his shiny high $ back happy.
Let's not forget Miller wanted Miami to use him more especially up middle and one of the reason he signed with Houston. I think OB was trying to keep his shiny high $ back happy.
Overall, Eisenhauer writes, the coaching staff came away from OTA's "believing the Texans aren't in as much trouble as many around the NFL believe they are in."
Weeden has by all accounts, the best mechanics of any of the QBs..........good footwork, a strong arm with a remarkably smooth and accurate delivery short and deep. The problem with Weeden historically is that he plays "scared" and folds under rush pressure with an associated break down of his mechanics.The Chronicle has two good pieces on the quarterbacks in this mornings paper, under a common title: Likes What He Sees.
Mark Eisenhauser had a piece on Weeden, and I like what I read:
(Weeden) "...I mean, we all know the situation. I'm not stupid. I'm an old guy, been around the block a couple of times and I understand how everything works...my role on this team is to make our room better, however that is. Whether that's helping (Deshaun), helping Tom. It's not about me, it's more about helping us get better as a football team."
(O'Brien)"...I have a lot of respect for Weed. He's had a good spring."
(Weeden) Refering to his comment when he first arrived in Houston, when he said learning the Texans' offense was like reading Chinese backwards, "It's English now"
(Eisenhauer) Referring to last Tuesday and Wednesday, he observed, "Weeden displayed poise and patience in the pocket, dishing out completions with ease and rarely making a low-quality throw...".
Overall, Eisenhauer writes, the coaching staff came away from OTA's "believing the Texans aren't in as much trouble as many around the NFL believe they are in."
Who said anything about him starting. You're just flaming.For the love of God, stop with Weeden. Baring injury he will never be the Texans starting QB. Wtf, he's like this to some of y'all:
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Ok he's cute.
As best as I remember, you are the only poster who has any relevant facts as to Weeden's deficiency. It's appreciated.Weeden has by all accounts, the best mechanics of any of the QBs..........good footwork, a strong arm with a remarkably smooth and accurate delivery short and deep. The problem with Weeden historically is that he plays "scared" and folds under rush pressure with an associated break down of his mechanics.
[BTW, I posted the Chinese quote in another thread before seeing yours above]
Same thing happened last year.The Chronicle has two good pieces on the quarterbacks in this mornings paper, under a common title: Likes What He Sees.
Mark Eisenhauser had a piece on Weeden, and I like what I read:
(Weeden) "...I mean, we all know the situation. I'm not stupid. I'm an old guy, been around the block a couple of times and I understand how everything works...my role on this team is to make our room better, however that is. Whether that's helping (Deshaun), helping Tom. It's not about me, it's more about helping us get better as a football team."
(O'Brien)"...I have a lot of respect for Weed. He's had a good spring."
(Weeden) Refering to his comment when he first arrived in Houston, when he said learning the Texans' offense was like reading Chinese backwards, "It's English now"
(Eisenhauer) Referring to last Tuesday and Wednesday, he observed, "Weeden displayed poise and patience in the pocket, dishing out completions with ease and rarely making a low-quality throw...".
Overall, Eisenhauer writes, the coaching staff came away from OTA's "believing the Texans aren't in as much trouble as many around the NFL believe they are in."
The Chronicle has two good pieces on the quarterbacks in this mornings paper, under a common title: Likes What He Sees.
Mark Eisenhauser had a piece on Weeden, and I like what I read:
(Weeden) "...I mean, we all know the situation. I'm not stupid. I'm an old guy, been around the block a couple of times and I understand how everything works...my role on this team is to make our room better, however that is. Whether that's helping (Deshaun), helping Tom. It's not about me, it's more about helping us get better as a football team."
(O'Brien)"...I have a lot of respect for Weed. He's had a good spring."
(Weeden) Refering to his comment when he first arrived in Houston, when he said learning the Texans' offense was like reading Chinese backwards, "It's English now"
(Eisenhauer) Referring to last Tuesday and Wednesday, he observed, "Weeden displayed poise and patience in the pocket, dishing out completions with ease and rarely making a low-quality throw...".
Overall, Eisenhauer writes, the coaching staff came away from OTA's "believing the Texans aren't in as much trouble as many around the NFL believe they are in."
OB in insistent that Savage is QB1 going into training camp; but has also emphasized that he has to earn the starting position every day. I think the situation is that while Weeden is solid in practice, Savage has also shined.On the cool I don't know why they won't actually let this man compete for the starting job. It's a stop gap year anyways.
I thought it was....Not sure why anyone thought it was written in stone Savage would start.
I thought it was....
then I remembered what jackhammers can do to stone...
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And the year before that the head coach thought he had two future HOF's in the room and everyone else thought they were crap.Same thing happened last year.
Lots of people believed the Texans QB situation was worse than the Texans organization thought.
well..yeah..that's the solution..but putting solution onto the field may be just a wee bit difficult I'm thinking...As best as I remember, you are the only poster who has any relevant facts as to Weeden's deficiency. It's appreciated.
Seems to me the solution is to keep the pressure off him, for one, and second, a better understanding of the offense, and three, better chemistry with his receivers.
But his role with the Texans seems to be as the veteran backup and he seems to be comfortable in that role.
well..yeah..that's the solution..but putting solution onto the field may be just a wee bit difficult I'm thinking...As best as I remember, you are the only poster who has any relevant facts as to Weeden's deficiency. It's appreciated.
Seems to me the solution is to keep the pressure off him, for one, and second, a better understanding of the offense, and three, better chemistry with his receivers.
But his role with the Texans seems to be as the veteran backup and he seems to be comfortable in that role.
Check out State of the Texans training camp preview out today : https://twitter.com/patdstat/status/882244778678792192
Not worth $10 to me
I don't think it's a news thing, more so a season preview. Also show all WRs and routes ran last yearYeah, I want Texans news as much as anybody but no reason to pay for it this time of year.
I don't think it's a news thing, more so a season preview. Also show all WRs and routes ran last year
Routes that our WRs ran...........or the routes that our WRs were supposed to run? For sure, route running was not a forte of any of our WRs last year.I don't think it's a news thing, more so a season preview. Also show all WRs and routes ran last year
Indeed. They break it down with each WR, what route was ran, how many targets and catchesRoutes that our WRs ran...........or the routes that our WRs were supposed to run? For sure, route running was not a forte of any of our WRs last year.
Don't really get the uproar over where they train. Baseball teams train in Florida and Arizona and nobody cares. The Cowboys train in California. The Oilers used to train in San Angelo. Who cares where they have PRACTICE?
Don't really get the uproar over where they train. Baseball teams train in Florida and Arizona and nobody cares. The Cowboys train in California. The Oilers used to train in San Angelo. Who cares where they have PRACTICE?
Note to self, don't click on articles from the Chronicle again. What a waste.
Note to self, don't click on Brian T. Smith articles again. What a waste.
Texans Make Moves on the Eve of Training Camp
The Houston Texans have made roster moves to prepare for the start of training camp.
- Patrick Starr - 2 hours
With training camp a day away from the Houston Texans, the team has made some roster moves to get ready for the start of camp.
The Texans have placed offensive tackle Duane Brown on the Reserve/Did Not Report List which is not a surprise after he did not make the flight to West Virginia. Brown is now holding out from camp due to him being unhappy with his current contract that has over $18 million in base salary the final two years. Brown was his deal to have some guaranteed money in it.
Rookie defensive end T.J. Daniel was placed on the Active/PUP list which will allow him to rehab the current injury he has. He will be counted against the roster count and can come off the PUP list at any time.
The Texans also placed rookie outside linebacker Dayon Pratt and second-year defensive end Joel Heath on the Active/ Non-Football Injury list. Both have injuries that were sustained during training heading to the season.
This report on Brown is from about 5 or 6 hours ago. Everything else is from about 8 or 9 hours ago. I head the report on 740 at around 4PM. If they got an exclusive comment from Brown they certainly don't seem to be making it official just yet. Or I heard wrong.Texans Make Moves on the Eve of Training Camp
The Houston Texans have made roster moves to prepare for the start of training camp.
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Play of the Texans' first training camp practice: During a 7-on-7 drill, Tom Savage threw a deep ball down the right sideline to Will Fuller. The ball was thrown into traffic, and Fuller made a leaping catch between the two defensive backs.
Sarah Barshop, ESPN Staff Writer
Sarah Barshop@sarahbarshop 2h2 hours ago
DeAndre Hopkins: I think Tom Savage and I connected on every throw he made to me.