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How about Tony Romo in Houston

Tony Romo is playing golf, jogging, lifting weights, running around the backyard playing with his kids. Not bad for a guy people label as injury prone with a bad back.

He also looked "amazing" in that one Touchdown drive in the final game against the Eagles. His only regular-season action 2016. If he retires he's doing so in pretty good health I must say. And if he wants to play I hope he's able to play for a good team like the Houston Texans.

It would be so fitting for Tony Romo to win a Super Bowl with the Texans. I'd love to see Jerry Jones' reaction next February when that happens!


That, I think, is what Jerry is scared of.
 
Right now it might look like jj has no leverage. But in a couple of weeks texans activities will start (can't remember if it's training camp, otas or whatever)
Anyways, if dallas keeps Romo untill june or even later, then he will lose a lot of time with his new team. That might be enough of a reason for the texans to cave and trade for Romo. If they are interested that is.
 
Right now it might look like jj has no leverage. But in a couple of weeks texans activities will start (can't remember if it's training camp, otas or whatever)
Anyways, if dallas keeps Romo untill june or even later, then he will lose a lot of time with his new team. That might be enough of a reason for the texans to cave and trade for Romo. If they are interested that is.
Jerry has no leverage here. Romo shows up April 17th, start of OTA's, with media in tow it will be a circus. Not a good place for your 2nd year QB to be in.

Not to mention if Romo decides to lift weights and "accidentally" pulls something
 
Give them a Third:

2003: Tony Hollings -lol

2004: Glenn Earl - Never did crap.....
Wasnt realy a 3rd round pick (bexause of a trade I think), but he was the third player picked
2005: Vernand Morency lol
2006: Charles Spencer - Could have been great, but the injury messed him up.
2007: Jacoby Jones - was alright, but that muff in the Ravens playoff game! I could never like hm after that.
2008: Steve Slaton - a flash in the pan - Antwaun Molden - was am ok ST player but nothing special.
2009:: Antoine Caldwell - lol
2010: Earl Mitchell - played very well, not Pro-Bowl level, a good guy, that played hard
2011 Brandon Harris - Dude suckes ass!
*Not really a 3rd round pick (bexause of a trade), but he was the third player picked.
2012: DeVier Posey - Never did jack-sh!+ here!- Brandon Brooks: great player but the Texans couldnt get him signed....
2013: Brennan Williams - I guess....he kinda sucked. lol
2014: C. J. Fiedorowicz - Looks like he may turn out OK, I'm thinking OD Lite... Louis Nix III - LMAO!! Epic!
2015: Jaelen Strong - Took awhile to get the hang of things, then looked great, but has a problem staying on the field.
2016: Braxton Miller - Seems to be struggling. I stull have lots of hope for him, and hope he suceeds.

Of those 3rd round picks IMO 8 of them were complete trash! With the infamous Texans third round disasters, I say go for it. He could not be any worse than what they have been getting in the third round. I will give them props for the past copule years though.
 
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Jerry has no leverage here. Romo shows up April 17th, start of OTA's, with media in tow it will be a circus. Not a good place for your 2nd year QB to be in.

Not to mention if Romo decides to lift weights and "accidentally" pulls something

Yup. The Cowboys can't keep him and bar him from all activities. Titans tried that and the NFL said NO.
 
IIRC the current status is they can limit some of what he does at practice (subject to grievance) but not weight/physical training at the facility.

So, they could limit his practice participation to an extent, but not his physical training (weightlifting). That would be a pretty big risk on their part, especially in the hope that they could receive a late round draft pick.

Any chance that J Jones actually has a plan B or C where Romo stays with the Cowboys? That having him as a backup protects them from an injury to Dak, assuming he thinks this could be a Super Bowl year for them?
 
Any chance that J Jones actually has a plan B or C where Romo stays with the Cowboys? That having him as a backup protects them from an injury to Dak, assuming he thinks this could be a Super Bowl year for them?

Just don't see any team expending almost 10% of the cap on a backup. That 2-3 starters at other positions.
 
Just don't see any team expending almost 10% of the cap on a backup. That 2-3 starters at other positions.

It may not be such a crazy decision. If he really believes in this core group of guys, having a backup that you trust and that has been in the system for a long time could be viewed as valuable. Maybe he doesn't go and sign somebody to have that situation, but keeping a long time ex-starter is a little bit different.

I don't really see them doing it either, but I don't think it's out of the question.
 
Joel Corry of CBS Sports considers April 17 a "logical ending point" for the Tony Romo saga. That's when the Cowboys begin offseason workouts. It would be pretty uncomfortable for all parties if Romo were still on the team at that point. If it came to that, Romo would have to show up or risk having his salary reduced by $500,000. At the very latest, the Cowboys could wait until after the draft to cut bait on Romo. Owner Jerry Jones previously mentioned training camp as the deadline for a decision on Romo, but we're guessing he'll be gone long before then.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/a...ditch-tony-romo-before-saga-gets-favre-esque/
 
Not to mention if Romo decides to lift weights and "accidentally" pulls something
then he can just release romo and he would have not lost anything.

I think people (the media) like to make a big fuss about "making right" or sentimental stuff like that.

I don't think a businessman cares about that. and even tho there might be a media circus, that's just more exposition, hence more $$$

and if you are worried about the psycological state of poor Dak who can feel threatened by romo, I'd say he should know by now that he's the starter next season, no reason to worry
 
OB should certainly get his share of the blame, but our front office has drafted 3 QBs during the entire Rick Smith tenure. They were drafted in the 7th Round, 5th Round, and 4th Round, and only one of those in the past five drafts. That is incomprehensible to me.
It doesn't negate O'b during his time not to have been more active in trying to find a Qb. I also don't buy that O'b has no say in Qb or any other personal decisions.

As I said without proof of things read or discussed we don't know the dynamics involved. I imagine there is some truth. We don't know enough. Anything we say without proof to back up our claims is merely speculation.
 
then he can just release romo and he would have not lost anything.

I think people (the media) like to make a big fuss about "making right" or sentimental stuff like that.

I don't think a businessman cares about that. and even tho there might be a media circus, that's just more exposition, hence more $$$

and if you are worried about the psycological state of poor Dak who can feel threatened by romo, I'd say he should know by now that he's the starter next season, no reason to worry

Not sure you can cut an injured player without reaching an injury settlement.
 
Tony Romo is playing golf, jogging, lifting weights, running around the backyard playing with his kids. Not bad for a guy people label as injury prone with a bad back.

He also looked "amazing" in that one Touchdown drive in the final game against the Eagles. His only regular-season action 2016. If he retires he's doing so in pretty good health I must say. And if he wants to play I hope he's able to play for a good team like the Houston Texans.

It would be so fitting for Tony Romo to win a Super Bowl with the Texans. I'd love to see Jerry Jones' reaction next February when that happens!

And that (imho) is at the root of all of this. Jerry's ego is the size of Texas. To see Romo hoisting a Lombardi trophy high in the air with a Texans uni on would be a complete embarrassment to him and his ego would be butt hurt until he dies.

He's essentially trying to force Tony to accept the CBS or Fox gig by hoping the Texans say well screw this, we're moving on. Houston is by far the most likely destination.
 
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Not sure you can cut an injured player without reaching an injury settlement.
ok, didn't know that.

this makes it a bit more risky, but still jj doens't lose anything to wait until the 17th

and after the 17th the only problem would be romo injuring himself working out, which seems a bit extreme :D
 
paycheck is correct. An injured player cannot be released without their assent. In effect, the player's contract becomes fully guaranteed for the duration of the injury.
thanks for the explanation

what about players retiring? if they are under contract when they retire, and then they come back (years later), does the old team still have any rights towards this player?
 
thanks for the explanation

what about players retiring? if they are under contract when they retire, and then they come back (years later), does the old team still have any rights towards this player?

Yup, in terms of the contract's status it's like those years don't exist.
 
Yup, in terms of the contract's status it's like those years don't exist.

I could be wrong. But I thought the team has the rights to that player for the term of the contract. Say this was the last year on his contract. Romo retires. After the beginning of the 2018 league year, he can come back & Dallas has no claim to him.

I'll look around, but I'm pretty sure that's how it is.
 
I don't see Jerry having an ego problem big enough to hold out on the Texans in fear of Romo getting a Lombardi in Houston. Murray was a darn good running back, and not only did he leave but signed with our arch rival. I would have loved for him to remain, but that's business.
 
I don't know how much stock we can put into it, but I found this, pretty much saying what I said.

Reserve/Retired List – If a player retires prior to the expiration of his contract, the team can place him on the Reserve/Retired List and retain its rights to the player under the player’s contract. The contract is tolled, so if, for example, a player retires with 2 years remaining on his contract, and is placed on the Reserve/Retired List, then, if he chooses to “unretire”, the player’s rights are still held by the team to the extent of the remaining 2 years of the contract.
 
Mar 31, 2017 @ 10:05 AM 7,873
Dallas Cowboys Quarterback Tony Romo Reportedly Could Replace Phil Simms On CBS' Top Broadcast Team


Tony Romo seemingly has numerous career options, but he has been unable to pursue any of them as he remains on the active roster of the Dallas Cowboys. While many expected this process resolve quickly, it has been anything but quick. Cowboys’ owner Jerry Jones even came out this week and said the Romo situation could last all the way into the summer and perhaps not even be resolved by training camp.

Dallas Cowboys quarterback Tony Romo remains a member of the Dallas Cowboys, but CBS Sports reportedly could offer him an analyst spot on their top broadcasting team. (AP Photo/Roger Steinman)

As Romo continues to weigh his NFL future, another career path has opened up for which he could have complete control over his freedom of movement. It has been previously reported that Romo is a broadcast candidate at Fox Sports to replace John Lynch, as well as a candidate to join the CBS as well in the role of game analyst. While being a broadcaster for either network for NFL games is certainly a sought-after role, it appears that CBS doesn’t just want Romo, they reportedly want him to replace Phil Simms on their top broadcast team with Jim Nantz.
One tidbit on #Cowboys QB Tony Romo: CBS is eyeing him as a potential replacement for Phil Simms in the booth. A big-time opportunity looms.

— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) March 29, 2017

This represents quite an opportunity that could give Romo pause if his situation with the Cowboys remains unresolved into the summer. Many announcers and analysts spend years in the business trying to get to the top teams in broadcasting and Romo seems to have the opportunity to jump into a lead role in his first year in the business. Successful broadcasting though is a lot more difficult than it appears and is a role that Romo might have to grow into over time. This is further complicated by the fact that next season CBS has the Thursday Night Football games for the first half of the NFL season, which means that Romo would be calling two games per week right out of the gate.

It might also be difficult for Romo to walk away from the game while he still can play at a high level and while he likely has something to prove, after his losing his starting role in Dallas. While injuries have dogged him during the past two seasons, he remains in great demand due to the NFL’s dearth of quality quarterbacks. Despite the lack of trade interest to date, the thinking around the NFL is that the Cowboys will eventually release Romo rather than pay him his $14 million salary. By cutting him, the team would save $14 million in cap space for the 2017 season. He is entering his fifth year of the current six-year $108 million contract with $55 million guaranteed.

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With the Texans and to a lesser extent, the Broncos possibly waiting in the wings for Romo, the smart money may be on him playing in the NFL in 2017 for the first time in a city other than Dallas. While this mindset seemed like conventional wisdom as recently as last week, it seems that, as the offseason progresses, Romo’s options get better and better. All things considered, it would be quite a leap for an unproven broadcaster to join the top broadcast team right off the field, but CBS likely has done their homework and they clearly see Romo as capable of leading their coverage next season for the network. The only thing that’s certain is we haven’t heard the last from this ongoing situation.
 
I don't see Jerry having an ego problem big enough to hold out on the Texans in fear of Romo getting a Lombardi in Houston. Murray was a darn good running back, and not only did he leave but signed with our arch rival. I would have loved for him to remain, but that's business.

I don't think so either, but he had no idea Murray would sign with Philly.

If we had waited three days before trading Osweiler, I think Jerry would have released Romo just like he said he would.

8 don't think he's trying to keep Romo from Houston, he's just trying to get something out of the deal.
 
I don't know how much stock we can put into it, but I found this, pretty much saying what I said.

Nope, that says exactly what I said. Tolling is a legal term, consider it put in stasis, time passes on the outside but the contract is unchanged. Retire with 2 years remaining, come back after 3 years, the original team has the player for 2 years.
 
not saying Jerry does not have an ego but trying to keep an asset from a competitor would seem to be a smart move. I have no problem with what Dallas decides to do. Relationship with player is good to have but my team would come first. It's not about a possible draft pick for me but destination of Romo.
 
not saying Jerry does not have an ego but trying to keep an asset from a competitor would seem to be a smart move. I have no problem with what Dallas decides to do. Relationship with player is good to have but my team would come first. It's not about a possible draft pick for me but destination of Romo.

Would you really call the Texans a competitor ?! They aren't even on the schedule this season , only in the best case scenario for both teams would they square off For all the marbles. And the press coverage both teams would generate in that scenario would be ....

They will be on the schedule in 2018 ....
 
Would you really call the Texans a competitor ?! They aren't even on the schedule this season , only in the best case scenario for both teams would they square off For all the marbles. And the press coverage both teams would generate in that scenario would be ....

They will be on the schedule in 2018 ....

The only way they are competitors is for fans and let's face reality Dallas has a 20 mile long lead on that. Romo is somewhat popular but there aren't many Romo over the Cowboys fans.
 
It's an inter-state rivalry; not so much a football rivalry. And it's not just Texans vs Cowboys; it's Houston vs Dallas.
 
The only way they are competitors is for fans and let's face reality Dallas has a 20 mile long lead on that. Romo is somewhat popular but there aren't many Romo over the Cowboys fans.
Absolutely correct, but there are fans (and perhaps more importantly, media outlets) whose interest in the Texans be far greater with Tony Romo here compared to retired, in Denver, or in a broadcast booth.

Wouldn't mean fans would choose Romo over the Cowboys, just that the Texans would get more attention from Dallas fans than they otherwise would have.

I could see where that would rankle Jerry.
 
The only way they are competitors is for fans and let's face reality Dallas has a 20 mile long lead on that. Romo is somewhat popular but there aren't many Romo over the Cowboys fans.

They really aren't competitors in that regard either .... The Oilers were my #1 team from the get go until they left but the Cowboys were my #2 being a Texas team. I'd wager a large percentage of fans feel similarly.
 
Off the field I have no REAL hate towards Dallas. On the field..... they can go procreate themselves.

One thing I dislike about them is Jerry and I don't think his ego will allow him to see us as a threat. I do believe he doesn't want to lose a single spotlight or risk it. Especially to a team that is in his mind probably still handing out letterman jackets.
 
JMO but if Texans had Romo each game would have the sports talk guys on TV and radio as well as all those NFL and ESPN channels talking about Romo and Texans. I don't see Jones liking that.
 
JMO but if Texans had Romo each game would have the sports talk guys on TV and radio as well as all those NFL and ESPN channels talking about Romo and Texans. I don't see Jones liking that.

He probably doesn't like that they talk about Brady & the Patriots, or Roethlisberger & the Steelers either.

I doubt the Cowboys will lose fans following Romo to Houston, definitely no more, or less that would follow Romo to Denver.

It's not Romo that makes Texas Dallas territory. He won't make it Texans territory.
 
then why is Dallas holding on to Romo?
I think it could be because Tony has more options than similar players in his position, and both the Cowboys and Tony are taking the time to weigh them. On the family side, he just built or still building a multimillion dollar mansion, he has two small children and expecting a third about the time the season begins, and it could be possible that he is considering if he wants to bring about another change that could involve a move.
 
I think it could be because Tony has more options than similar players in his position, and both the Cowboys and Tony are taking the time to weigh them. On the family side, he just built or still building a multimillion dollar mansion, he has two small children and expecting a third about the time the season begins, and it could be possible that he is considering if he wants to bring about another change that could involve a move.
you don't think Romo is concerned about being told he would be cut then placed on hold?
 
He probably doesn't like that they talk about Brady & the Patriots, or Roethlisberger & the Steelers either.

I doubt the Cowboys will lose fans following Romo to Houston, definitely no more, or less that would follow Romo to Denver.

It's not Romo that makes Texas Dallas territory. He won't make it Texans territory.
then why is Dallas holding on to Romo?

The Patriots and the Steelers aren't in Dallas' back yard. But I don't see this as a Dallas fan base vs Texans fan base thing. I see this as being all about Jerruh, his insecurities and his misguided personal apprehensions of embarrassment if Romo becomes a significant topic of discussion by the national talking heads, that would in his mind overshadow his personal interests and reputation. Unlike most Dallas fans who don't see Texans fans or players as a threat to their fandom, Jerruh with his ability to make lots of money but inability to field a SB team for 21 years (much longer than the Texans' existence) apparently does.
 
The Patriots and the Steelers aren't in Dallas' back yard. But I don't see this as a Dallas fan base vs Texans fan base thing. I see this as being all about Jerruh, his insecurities and his misguided personal apprehensions of embarrassment if Romo becomes a significant topic of discussion by the national talking heads, that would in his mind overshadow his personal interests and reputation. Unlike most Dallas fans who don't see Texans fans or players as a threat to their fandom, Jerruh with his ability to make lots of money but inability to field a SB team for 21 years (much longer than the Texans' existence) apparently does.

It would be no different if Romo went to Denver & won a Super Bowl.

If Jerry thought there was a Super Bowl left in Tony Romo, Dak would have been benched last season.

This is all about Jerry wanted to get something for Romo. He's in no hurry to release him. & if Romo is as undecided as they're saying, he probably welcomes the extra time.
 
It would be no different if Romo went to Denver & won a Super Bowl.

If Jerry thought there was a Super Bowl left in Tony Romo, Dak would have been benched last season.

This is all about Jerry wanted to get something for Romo. He's in no hurry to release him. & if Romo is as undecided as they're saying, he probably welcomes the extra time.

It would not be the same if Romo went to Denver and won a SB...........that would not be in Jerruh's own back yard.
 
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