First, this is a decent article in favor of Tom Savage. I like Cosell, but he seems kinda biased to me. Still, decent read.
Just curious, but what do you perceive his bias toward/against?
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First, this is a decent article in favor of Tom Savage. I like Cosell, but he seems kinda biased to me. Still, decent read.
Just curious, but what do you perceive his bias toward/against?
Cosell was strongly in Savage's corner before the draft...
The Patriots draft guys as fresh backups so they don't have to pay the second contract which means bigger bucks.I hope Savage is as good as Schaub when he was when he was at his best. And stay healthy.
Keep drafting a qb every once in a while similar to the Patriots looking for a potential replacement or trade bait.
If Savage goes down, replace him with Weeden, not Osweiler. And definitely draft a QB in the 1st round, unless Savage develops superstar credentials and carries us to a SB win.
Which qb will be a 1st rounder?
Doesn't matter..whomever are the best prospects will most likely be gone by the time we get up to draft in the 1st..
I'm willing to trade Oz and our 1st to the Browns for their 1st.
There are plenty of quality NFL QBs not taken high in the 1st round. I'd say the key would be picking up a guy that they think has what it takes early in the draft, whether that's first or second round. The Texans haven't taken a high pick QB since they drafted Carr.Doesn't matter..whomever are the best prospects will most likely be gone by the time we get up to draft in the 1st..
They're known to bet the rent on QB prospects that won't work out.Why would the Browns do that?
A more likely scenario would be Oz and our first for a 6thThey're known to bet the rent on QB prospects that won't work out.![]()
A more likely scenario would be Oz and our first for a 6th![]()
They're known to bet the rent on QB prospects that won't work out.![]()
But not on ones that haven't already worked out...
RG3?
Looking back at it, excluding the way the position was handled the first two years of OB, it would have probably been a better move to roll with Savage. But hind sight is a mother....
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You think Cosell all of a sudden has a bias against Brock Osweiler ... huh, ok.
And the Savage throw I'd agree was a little behind. But it was a tight area to get it in against the sideline and I don't believe Os would've completed it, even a little behind, if you gave him a number of tries.
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Or we give them a 2nd just to take Os and his ball-and-chain of a contract...
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It's the throw at about the 1:55 mark of the video.
Hopkins had both hands on the ball when he was falling down.
Now, to be fair (or to make excuses depending on your viewpoint), Hopkins did spank the ground pretty hard.
Except he's already made that throw, at least twice that I can remember. Once to Fuller against Chicago, then to Hopkins against KC, I think. When he caught 7 balls for 113 yards & a TD.
I thought he threw a perfect ball to Hopkins @Indy. Hopkins didn't catch it. may have been a hair overthrown. but if we're willing to look pass a ball that is a bit overthrown, surely we'll give a pass that is slightly over thrown.
Why would the Browns do that?
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Doesn't matter..whomever are the best prospects will most likely be gone by the time we get up to draft in the 1st..
In all fairness to Brock, he's absolutely capable of delivering a stellar NFL throw. The ones you mentioned, the gem he zipped to Fiedo a couple weeks ago. Problem is they're just too few and too far between. And the far between consists of far too many unforced errors that are drive killers if not full on turnovers. Greg Cosell piling on or not, we can all see that.
They're the Browns?Why would the Browns do that?
When Bill O'Brien stops running the ball and starts passing it instead speaks volumes by itself.I agree. I don't think know it's necessary to explain why Brock was benched. His performance this game was only part of the reason & like you said, the good stuff comes too far & in between.
& it's not that I think he's piling on Brock. He's extremely enthusiastic about Savage & I think that bias shows in some of the glossing over of Savages performance then contrasting with Brock to try to make Savage look better. Like I said, totally unnecessary. Tom's performance was strong enough to stand on its own imo.
Tom needs reps. We should win Sat. The big game will be Tenn and Cinn should be a warm up for the next week. 55-45 pass; maybe even 60-40. IMO.When Bill O'Brien stops running the ball and starts passing it instead speaks volumes by itself.
It was like he turned into this kid in a candy store.
It will be interesting to see how he divides the snaps on Saturday.
They're the Browns?
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Cosell was strongly in Savage's corner before the draft. I'm totally behind the switch. When he says Savage was much more polished & refined, I agree with that as well.
It was underthrown. Should have been ahead of Williams where Ramsey couldn't have made a play on it. I don't think the safety would have got there in time as Williams had time to catch it, turn, & run a bit.
I'm excited about Savage. But I think a lot of the things he did in that game won't look so good if we had lost... well, if he plays similarly next week & we lose. We'll nitpick the crap out of him.
I want Savage to be the guy. I wanted Brock to be the guy. I wanted Mallett to be the guy. I wanted Case to be the guy... I wanted Tj to be the guy. I wanted Schaub to be the guy. I really don't care who he is. Just as long as we find him.
Hmmm. I don't know what to tell you now.It's something in my settings or anti-virus that won't let them play
I don't know what it was either, but it certainly wasn't improved blocking. He made several throws - on target - with rushers in his face or while being hit. I hope we tighten up the protections because one or two good crunches by Atkins or Dunlap and we might get to see Weeden or worse, could be right back to Osweiler again.I did not expect perfect throws from Savage after he was put in the game as he has not practiced much the past 3 ish weeks. Probably not in sync with the receivers. With him actually practicing with the 1's this week, I would think he should be more on target.
IDK if he is the answer to our QB problems, but you could see the difference in the offense when he came in. Things seemed to "click" with the receivers, Hopkins was getting open (or Savage was actually throwing the ball when he should). He seems to see the field better, better touch on his passes. Better command of the offense. Hopefully he just gets better each game and our problems (at least at QB) are solved.
Well, somebody sure thinks Savage is the answer. Check this article out from Bleacher Report and the video by Chris Simms. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=6&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiY5qeThYjRAhUL3mMKHdVBB0sQFgg0MAU&url=http://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/index.ssf/2016/12/nfl_analyst_ex-rutgers_qb_tom_savage_can_lead_texa.html&usg=AFQjCNGLsgPVq_tz6GRdcU0Fe-bfXV8eaw&sig2=Obm0_j9NH9CEu_Bbbp-u6A
I don't know how much stock I would put in to BR and Chris Simms but Simms sure likes Savage a lot.
"Houston has a Super Bowl-caliber roster with an awesome defense, playmakers and a solid running game," Simms said. "The only thing holding them back has been bottom-three quarterback play. Savage has great arm strength and touch. He's just a better pure thrower of the football than Osweiler."