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Next Head Coach

kingtexan

kingtexan

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Who will it be?

Do we revert back and try to lure a Gruden or Cowher out of retirement?

Convince Saban that like Pete C the second time may be the charm for him? ***could you imagine our defensive talent in Sabans system?

BoB has to go. So who coaches next year?
 
Got to get rid of Smith first or you get a BOB clone. Just a wanna be yes man that will put up with anything just to get the job.
 
kingtexan said:
Who will it be?

Do we revert back and try to lure a Gruden or Cowher out of retirement?

Convince Saban that like Pete C the second time may be the charm for him? ***could you imagine our defensive talent in Sabans system?

BoB has to go. So who coaches next year?
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Another flunky will coach next year. You know Bud Adams, er, I mean McNair. And the pity is, there are so many winners in college jobs. One of them is bound to be interested.
 
kingtexan said:
Is there any other time in recent history?
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Considering the fact that we've won the division and gone to the playoffs 3 out of the last 5 years, yeah there have been other times to come around..

For some reason though you just have a knack for coming around when we lose...
 
Accept the fact he'll be back next year, because that's what will happen. And with BO as QB! This is just the first year of this nightmare, and you know that's true.

Signed,
Mr. Sunshine :)
 
To much money involved to cut the cord now. And you don't want to saddle a new HC with Brock for a year. Although that is what McNair did to Kubiak. My guess is McNair has to much invested in BO X 2 to part ways after 2016 but cleans house after 2017.

But I will play the coaching game: #1 Urban Meyer; #2 Jimbo Fisher; #3 Chris Peterson

Now for all those who want to pooh pooh college coaches, Spurrier and Saban were Owner failures NOT Coach failures. Schiano yes but he never should been hired in the first place and is not in the Saban, Spurrier, Carroll, Johnson, Meyer, Fisher, Peterson class.
 
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I hear Charlie Strong is available.. Just kidding, I do like Urban Meyer and Chris Peterson and see them behind Saban in college but not many others at all. Peterson's teams are prepared period.
 
I hear Charlie Strong is available.. Just kidding, I do like Urban Meyer and Chris Peterson and see them behind Saban in college but not many others at all. Peterson's teams are prepared period.
 
If Godsey is fired you know BOB is on thin ice. The firing of any coordinator is the first sign that a coach is trying to save his own ass.
 
kingtexan said:
At this point it looks like not hiring Phillips to be HC was a mistake. Anyone could do better than BoB.
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Maybe so.
IMO, It looks like Bill is doing the best job he can with the talent he has. Osweiler is just not accurate. He continually throws behind the receiver instead of leading him a little. Bill is having to run the ball more to minimize the dependence of Brock. Defenses know it. They can stack the box and make Brock throw.
Anyway...., Bill does have a winning record.

Remember Kubiak had two of the best seasons this franchise has ever seen when Matt Schaub was an accurate QB. When Matt fell apart, Kubiak became a horrible coach.
 
Rev.G.Longlove said:
Maybe so.
IMO, It looks like Bill is doing the best job he can with the talent he has. Osweiler is just not accurate. He continually throws behind the receiver instead of leading him a little. Bill is having to run the ball more to minimize the dependence of Brock. Defenses know it. They can stack the box and make Brock throw.
Anyway...., Bill does have a winning record.

Remember Kubiak had two of the best seasons this franchise has ever seen when Matt Schaub was an accurate QB. When Matt fell apart, Kubiak became a horrible coach.
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That is on the coach to bring up the next player. he continues to put this team in terrible positions because he is stuck on 1 player. Brock is clearly not getting the concept of being accurate. You have to try something else before we lose this division race
 
amazing80 said:
That is on the coach to bring up the next player. he continues to put this team in terrible positions because he is stuck on 1 player. Brock is clearly not getting the concept of being accurate. You have to try something else before we lose this division race
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The first game last year ruined BOB for making logical substitutions. He will stick with BO until.......Well Until.
 
amazing80 said:
That is on the coach to bring up the next player. he continues to put this team in terrible positions because he is stuck on 1 player. Brock is clearly not getting the concept of being accurate. You have to try something else before we lose this division race
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The first game last year ruined BOB for making logical substitutions. He will stick with BO until.......Well Until.
 
And bob has been in charge of his teams FA and draft for 2 seasons..you have teams that were worse than us and make the jump and seem to be on the rise.. or atleast they dont sheyot the bed when playing good teams.
 
bigmck said:
Bill Cowher or Nick Saban or Vince Lombardi will not make BO throw straight..............The problem is deeper than BOB.
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I agree with you.

If this were High School or College I could see the Head Coach sitting a QB that is playing the way Brock is currently, BUT there is too much money invested.
At least for the first 2 years. Honestly, I would love to see what Savage could do with the first team.

I know the fans had to have a change last year after Hoyer, BUT who pushed for Brock..? Was it Mr. McNair or maybe his son..? Who...?
IF it was Rick or Bill, then one of them is likely getting cut for the $37 Million dollar gamble. If neither one of them gets cut at the end of this year, "my guess" is Mr. McNair told Rick to sign the best available FA to appease the fans. I think Mr. McNair was trying to fix the situation, but it just hasn't worked out with Brock ( so far ).

I wish we wouldn't give up on Bill O'Brien yet. Coaches hate to lose. After watching the parade of QB's last year, I feel like he would change QB's right now if he could.
 
Between OB and Oz's complete failure to get this offense going this season, they should both be gone. I realize Oz has to be back, but he shouldn't be as a starter. I don't care what he is getting paid. Look for another QB this off season.
 
Dang OB just shifted blamed to the Oline and Hopkins on that first INT.

I get the oline...oz had to scramble out due to some pressure (even though this is the NFL and being able to handle pressure like that should be fairly easy....but whatever)

Saying that Hopkins should have broke that pass up though?

Yikes.

Even if He's right and Hop could have made some effort to break that up, it's not going to sit well with guys when you're doing everything you can to deflect blame from Os even going so far as to throw other players/units under the bus.
 
xtruroyaltyx said:
Dang OB just shifted blamed to the Oline and Hopkins on that first INT.

I get the oline...oz had to scramble out due to some pressure (even though this is the NFL and being able to handle pressure like that should be fairly easy....but whatever)

Saying that Hopkins should have broke that pass up though?

Yikes.

Even if He's right and Hop could have made some effort to break that up, it's not going to sit well with guys when you're doing everything you can to deflect blame from Os even going so far as to throw other players/units under the bus.
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If he's doing that publicly he'll lose the team, and we'll be rid of him
 
JB said:
If he's doing that publicly he'll lose the team, and we'll be rid of him
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he did it in his presser, I would rather lose Oz then the team. I find it odd you blame the receiver to be a defender because the QB is spraying the ball. They also commented Nuk left the facility quick and before he put his shoes on. The guy is probably wondering about his contract year performance and his QB is killing it
 
Did OB lose the team last year? Are they seeing same sh*t different day? Can you really blame the P.O.S OL that hasn't been stellar? All blame needs to be on the head coach.

With the QB carousel the last two years, did Nuk see crap coming and thought "oh hell no..." I mean your star WR does a one day hold out in training camp this year and then plays like he does this year. I'm not blaming Nuk on all the interceptions that came his way, but man he was on fire the last two years. I'm not seeing it. Then again, did he hold out cause he practiced with Oz and realized early the guy was going to struggle?

Gah, this is just too damned rough.
 
Rev.G.Longlove said:
Maybe so.
IMO, It looks like Bill is doing the best job he can with the talent he has. Osweiler is just not accurate. He continually throws behind the receiver instead of leading him a little. Bill is having to run the ball more to minimize the dependence of Brock. Defenses know it. They can stack the box and make Brock throw.
Anyway...., Bill does have a winning record.

Remember Kubiak had two of the best seasons this franchise has ever seen when Matt Schaub was an accurate QB. When Matt fell apart, Kubiak became a horrible coach.
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O'Brien took over a loaded team compared to what Koobs inherited. His record speaks to the talent on the team and not to some coaching wizardry. He gets no pass from me. His inability to control the tempo of a game, his incompetence with situational management in respects to down and distance play calling and challenge flag usage tells me he isnt head coaching material. Those arent skills you learn on the job. Some people are good bosses others are great leaders and O'Brien just strikes me more of a guy who's putting on a show. Where is the tough guy who cusses alot and is all alpha at the podium when the game is on the line? His system lacks the creativity to succeed consistently at the NFL level, while Kubiak can take virtually ANY QB and make him into a respectable player due to the blocking schemes,route tree maximization and insane ability to use angles to use the full field.

Bill O'Brien will be fired from this job and probably wont be a head coach again. Kubiak will be a head coach as long as he wants to be one.
 
Uncle Rico said:
O'Brien took over a loaded team compared to what Koobs inherited. His record speaks to the talent on the team and not to some coaching wizardry. He gets no pass from me. His inability to control the tempo of a game, his incompetence with situational management in respects to down and distance play calling and challenge flag usage tells me he isnt head coaching material. Those arent skills you learn on the job. Some people are good bosses others are great leaders and O'Brien just strikes me more of a guy who's putting on a show. Where is the tough guy who cusses alot and is all alpha at the podium when the game is on the line? His system lacks the creativity to succeed consistently at the NFL level, while Kubiak can take virtually ANY QB and make him into a respectable player due to the blocking schemes,route tree maximization and insane ability to use angles to use the full field.

Bill O'Brien will be fired from this job and probably wont be a head coach again. Kubiak will be a head coach as long as he wants to be one.
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You missed my point. IMO, It's the QB that makes or breaks the coach.
Kubiak had Matt Schaub from 2007 - 2013. We gave up draft picks to get him, but it worked out. He was a solid ( not great ) QB and we could compete with most teams.
O'Brien inherited a sack of crap on the QB side and we searched through the bag for 2 years looking for a fresh turd.

We can get rid of Bill if everyone wants. You may be right, history may determine O'Brien is not a good head coach. I know he has that East Coast nasty personality.
Kubiak was a lot more engaging. I just don't think replacing the HC will increase Brock's accuracy.
Kubiak couldn't fix David Carr, but he won a SB with an old Peyton after benching our current boy.
The Saints were an average team for years until they got Drew Brees.
I just want the same for our team. Just have a solid QB so we can compete with other good teams.
 
I think he gets one more year after this year which is looking like an 8-8 season but if we finish 6-10 he's gone....even though it's probably not his fault considering what he's got to work with at quarterback.
 
There's very little chance that Savage could play worse than Os has this yr.

Just imagine if Rick hadn't IR'ed Savage last yr. If Savage plays well we dont have the suck that is Os. This was the single biggest mistake the Texans org made last yr and whoever made that decision should be flred. They wont be fired though because that may be too traumatic/cost the McNair's too much $$$$.
 
xtruroyaltyx said:
Dang OB just shifted blamed to the Oline and Hopkins on that first INT.
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Wow, hadn't heard that. The Oline gets beat every now and then. A QB is supposed to be able to beat the pressure now and then. Brock did that. He made a bad throw. Did the Oline and Hopkins have something to do with that INT? Maybe, but that pass was thrown late and behind Hopkins. I think Brock was looking short and then threw long. He should looking long first, IMO, on a play like that.

O'Brien better watch what he says. I know the QB is the shiny new toy in the closet but he can't coddle him like that all the time.
 
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Rev.G.Longlove said:
O'Brien inherited a sack of crap on the QB side and we searched through the bag for 2 years looking for a fresh turd.
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O'Brien inherited Keenum, Yates and a draft that included Bortles, Bridgewater, Carr and Garoppolo. O'Brien walked into a guaranteed 9 wins, all he had to do was coach what he had and draft a quarterback with the luxury of sitting for a year. Instead he started cutting quality players before having a plan - forced to bring them back (Yates and Keenum went 4-0) because of injury and his shortsightedness.
 
Scooter said:
O'Brien inherited Keenum, Yates and a draft that included Bortles, Bridgewater, Carr and Garoppolo. O'Brien walked into a guaranteed 9 wins, all he had to do was coach what he had and draft a quarterback with the luxury of sitting for a year. Instead he started cutting quality players before having a plan - forced to bring them back (Yates and Keenum went 4-0) because of injury and his shortsightedness.
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Come on now.....Be honest...
Keenum and Yates are serviceable at best. It's okay. I know you're frustrated like the rest of us.
They are adequate 2nd string guys. I'm a U of H guy myself. I like Keenum. He had his moments with Kubiak.
But being fair, if you look at his career stats, he hasn't had a QBR rating to reach 48 yet. Matt Schaub was consistently in the low to high 60's most of his playing time.
( 34.55 QBR the last year with us ).

.....but to the rest of your point, "who makes the decision in the draft?".
If it really is the COACH making the decisions, then what does the General Manager do...? What about our scouting system.?
Who decided not to draft a QB after Matt melted down..??
If it really was the coach like you're suggesting, then I would agree with you.
 
Rev.G.Longlove said:
Who decided not to draft a QB after Matt melted down..??
If it really was the coach like you're suggesting, then I would agree with you.
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McNair was pretty clear at the Kubiak being FIRED press conference that Keenum was the Texans QB of the future. That's twice that McNair has saddled a new Head Coach with a faulty failed QB to start his first season as Texans HC. Starting the 2015 season O'Brien categorically stated that the Texans did not have a QB problem.
 
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