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2016 NFL Power Rankings

I normally don't care about these things too much...

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/09/20/week-three-power-rankings-6/

7. Texans (2-0; No. 12): Isn’t there supposed to be a Super Bowl host curse?


But, they had this little gem, so I had to share it.

28. Jaguars (0-2; No. 18): The bandwagon has emptied faster than the bladder of a nine-year old who drank a two-liter bottle of Sprite just before sleeping 12 hours.
 
I have Houston in the second tier of teams right now.

New England, Carolina, Pittsburgh, Denver, and Arizona are all a little better at the moment imo.

I group the Texans with the Minnesota, Cincinnati, Green Bay group. So these rankings coming out this week sit pretty well with me
 
Hoptimus Prime said:
I have Houston in the second tier of teams right now.

New England, Carolina, Pittsburgh, Denver, and Arizona are all a little better at the moment imo.

I group the Texans with the Minnesota, Cincinnati, Green Bay group. So these rankings coming out this week sit pretty well with me
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More or less, I'm with you. But Denver is not in that top tier.

With their new QB, they're pretty much I the same boat as the Texans & Vikings.

I know they're the defending Champs, but they're not.
 
thunderkyss said:
More or less, I'm with you. But Denver is not in that top tier.

With their new QB, they're pretty much I the same boat as the Texans & Vikings.

I know they're the defending Champs, but they're not.
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We are talking about the same team that beat the Panthers right? The D does not need a good QB to win. They proved that last year when they carried a **** Peyton Manning to a SB victory.
 
chenjy9 said:
We are talking about the same team that beat the Panthers right? The D does not need a good QB to win. They proved that last year when they carried a **** Peyton Manning to a SB victory.
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Yeah... you know why no one talks about the '86 Bears?


Because they're not the '85 Bears.
 
JB said:
Not really... they've given up 40 points in two games
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And last year they gave up 37 points in the first 2 games against arguably inferior teams and gave up basically the same yardage. To me, they look about the same as last year.
 
chenjy9 said:
And last year they gave up 37 points in the first 2 games against arguably inferior teams and gave up basically the same yardage. To me, they look about the same as last year.
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I didn't see the Indy game, and only part of the Carolina game, but it looked to me like they were really missing Trevathan in the middle. Other than that they basically are the same team
 
JB said:
I didn't see the Indy game, and only part of the Carolina game, but it looked to me like they were really missing Trevathan in the middle. Other than that they basically are the same team
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Hence my original reply that they look just as effective. Last year, they gave up 37 points to the Ravens and Chiefs. This year, they gave up 40 points to the Panthers and Colts.
 
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chenjy9 said:
The Broncos D looks just as effective as last year, so not sure what you are watching honestly.
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It's not going to last another 14 games. That's what made their defense so great last year. It was pretty amazing what they did last year. New season, they have to do it again.

I can't count the Broncos among the tier one teams when they've already got plans to change QBs if not this year, then next.

Repeating as Super Bowl Champs is hard enough already. To do it twice without a QB... yeah, okay

:ok:
 
thunderkyss said:
It's not going to last another 14 games. That's what made their defense so great last year. It was pretty amazing what they did last year. New season, they have to do it again.

I can't count the Broncos among the tier one teams when they've already got plans to change QBs if not this year, then next.

Repeating as Super Bowl Champs is hard enough already. To do it twice without a QB... yeah, okay

:ok:
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No one knows if it will last. Last year, people were probably thinking the same thing, that it wouldn't last. There is a reason that games are played. On paper at least, they are the same team... they just traded one mediocre performing QB for another one.
 
chenjy9 said:
No one knows if it will last. Last year, people were probably thinking the same thing, that it wouldn't last. There is a reason that games are played. On paper at least, they are the same team... they just traded one mediocre performing QB for another one.
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Then you may as well put our team & the Vikings in tier one.
 
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Then you may as well put our team & the Vikings in tier one.
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Why not put the Vikings up there?
Did they not just beat Aaron Rodgers and the Pack with a (some say) mediocre QB and no real production from AP?
And they beat the Titans, in their bldg, without scoring an offensive TD.
They're doing something right.

We'll see how good they really are this week when they take on Carolina.
 
Another way of putting it is that teams are what their records are. Right now, our record is 2-0. That means we are, at least for now, a top tier team. Do we have flaws? Sure, but we still managed to win convincingly with them. We compensated for them by excelling elsewhere. There are multiple ways to win a game and ultimately, it matters very little how you get to a win, only that you did.
 
Denvers D is just as good as last year by the looks of it. Their running game looks better. Siemian look serviceable so far, but he doesn't push the ball down the field. All screens and quick throws. I think he could get exposed. Them losing Ware really hurts as well.

Before the season, I wasn't sure they'd make the playoffs, but from what I've seen so far they are still an elite team.
 
JB said:
I didn't see the Indy game, and only part of the Carolina game, but it looked to me like they were really missing Trevathan in the middle. Other than that they basically are the same team
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I think they're missing the DT's that left more than Trevathan, and having Ware out will really impact their pass rush. They beat Carolina though and Luck didn't have 100 yards until the 4th quarter. The Colts game would've been a total laugher if they'd finished with touchdowns instead of fieldgoals and turnovers, Denver was in fieldgoal range on their first 6 out of 7 drives.
 
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Scooter said:
I think they're missing the DT's that left more than Trevathan, and having Ware out will really impact their pass rush. They beat Carolina though and Luck didn't have 100 yards until the 4th quarter. The Colts game would've been a total laugher if they'd finished with touchdowns instead of fieldgoals and turnovers, Denver was in fieldgoal range on their first 6 out of 7 drives.
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So it was their offense that won that game?
 
JB said:
So it was their offense that won that game?
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Total dominance for the most part, just couldn't finish drives so the score was closer than the game. If my math is correct Indy had about 73 total yards in the first half, getting 6 points from a turnover and missed fieldgoal. Luck was getting abused by Ware and Miller, but the pass rush fell off noticeably when Ware went down. Denver still put up 14 points on defense without Ware.
 
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ObsiWan said:
Did they not just beat Aaron Rodgers and the Pack
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I think the Packers are grossly overrated this year. They couldn't bury the Jags. Let Sam Bradford beat them. I know, I know, the Vikings have a good defense. I think the Packers upper level power rankings are based on Rodgers alone. And he's good, for sure, but I'm not so sure about that team.
 
DX-TEX said:
Even with a 3rd string rookie QB they are still the NE Patriots. No one just "goes into Foxborough and just winz".

Even if the Texans somehow win sadly it will still be "but they didnt have Brady"
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I'd rather the narrative on Friday be "The Texans beat a Brady-less Patriots team" than "The Texans lost to Jacoby Brisett". Sports writers won't give the Texans leeway in their columns for going against Bill Belichick, it will be the Texans couldn't beat a banged up team.
 
austins23 said:
I think the Packers are grossly overrated this year. They couldn't bury the Jags. Let Sam Bradford beat them. I know, I know, the Vikings have a good defense. I think the Packers upper level power rankings are based on Rodgers alone. And he's good, for sure, but I'm not so sure about that team.
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R-E-L-A-X

Green Bay has started slow before. And there's no shame in losing to the Vikings in Minnesota. Texans play them up there in October. That's going to be a tough game.
 
banned1976 said:
R-E-L-A-X

Green Bay has started slow before. And there's no shame in losing to the Vikings in Minnesota. Texans play them up there in October. That's going to be a tough game.
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yeah, that Minnesota game worries me more now than it did when the schedule first came out. We had a tough time with KC's defense. I think Minnesota has a D that's comparable to KC's.
 
ObsiWan said:
yeah, that Minnesota game worries me more now than it did when the schedule first came out. We had a tough time with KC's defense. I think Minnesota has a D that's comparable to KC's.
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Hopefully, our offense will have gotten it's crap together by that point.
 
NFL.com Power Rankings Week 4

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2-1 TEXANS

The Texans dropped 7 spots in the ranking this week. Not unexpected considering the poor performance in New England on Thursday night.


The Texans appeared so awful Thursday night that they probably deserved to be lower. Check that, they didn't appear anything ... they were plain awful versus the Pats. If this team is ever to take the next step, it must be able to win in New England against a fully equipped Patriots outfit, much less one without their QB1, QB2 and their top offensive weapon limited to just 14 snaps. The sad deal here is that New England didn't even need an obligatory Gronk catch, much like Houston doesn't need an obligatory Will Fuller drop.
 
if the power rankings were made after jj injury was announced we wouldn't even be ranked top20

this is ridiculous:
Watt cannot be an MVP since he is on defence, but at the same time with an healthy Watt Texans are rated top 5 while without him we are out of the top20

meh
 
NFL.com Week 5 Power Rankings

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12


3-1 TEXANS

Back up 1 spot after the week 4 win over the Titans


Not a huge jump up from last week's rankings, due to the J.J. Watt injury. On to brighter news: Will Fuller might make catching the football an adventure, but he sure is making a case for Offensive Rookie of the Year. While Ezekiel Elliott and Carson Wentz present the strongest competition early, you don't see either of them housing punt returns. That's not a dimension they offer. The Texans sorely needed Fuller's clutch, 67-yard sprint to paydirt. Sprint to paydirt. When's the last time you heard that phrase. I'm bringing it back. #gridiron

 
ObsiWan said:
what site was this from?
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JamTex said:
NFL.com Week 5 Power Rankings

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12


3-1 TEXANS

Back up 1 spot after the week 4 win over the Titans


Not a huge jump up from last week's rankings, due to the J.J. Watt injury. On to brighter news: Will Fuller might make catching the football an adventure, but he sure is making a case for Offensive Rookie of the Year. While Ezekiel Elliott and Carson Wentz present the strongest competition early, you don't see either of them housing punt returns. That's not a dimension they offer. The Texans sorely needed Fuller's clutch, 67-yard sprint to paydirt. Sprint to paydirt. When's the last time you heard that phrase. I'm bringing it back. #gridiron
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How do the Texans really stack up against other teams? How about somebody help me calculate it. I have compiled my own estimate of the relative impact of skill at each position on won and lost record. I normalized the list by setting the most important position at 100 and estimated the importance of other positions as a percentage of that:

wide receiver 100
cornerback 100
safety 95
quarterback 92
center 85
offensive tackle 82
kicker 81
outside linebacker 80
inside linebacker 78
guard 78
running back 75
defensive end 73
defensive tackle 70
returner 70
tight end 70
fullback 61
punter 45
Note that I did not count head coach as a player. If I had, that position would rank far above the others in its ability to win games.

I will leave it to somebody else to assign skill scores to the players. You might set a healthy JJ Watt at 100 and go down from there.

Then multiply each player's skill score by the importance of his position and add all the results to get a number that (hopefully) measures the strength of the team. With which of my numbers do you agree or disagree? How do you think the Texans will come in?
 
NFL.com Power Rankings Week 6

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3-2 TEXANS

A 4 spot drop from 12 to 16 is clearly expected after the Texans showing, or lack of it, against the Vikings.


Going to try and hold steady with the Texans, but think they deserve a more significant drop, based on how bad they've looked in their two losses. So what gives? Well, for one thing, the Vikings' defense has made everyone and everything look silly -- every offensive scheme, every play call, every playbook, every 15-play script and every $72 million quarterback. Gotta say, though: Loved the screen pass to Will Fuller on fourth-and-16 in the second half. It netted 4 yards. #winningfootball
 
JamTex said:
NFL.com Power Rankings Week 6

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16


3-2 TEXANS

A 4 spot drop from 12 to 16 is clearly expected after the Texans showing, or lack of it, against the Vikings.


Going to try and hold steady with the Texans, but think they deserve a more significant drop, based on how bad they've looked in their two losses. So what gives? Well, for one thing, the Vikings' defense has made everyone and everything look silly -- every offensive scheme, every play call, every playbook, every 15-play script and every $72 million quarterback. Gotta say, though: Loved the screen pass to Will Fuller on fourth-and-16 in the second half. It netted 4 yards. #winningfootball
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Yeah, that screen pass was a winner ok. Won the backside prize of the year.
 
NFL.com Power Rankings week 7

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4-2 TEXANS

The Texans moved up 1 spot with the win over the Colts. Could this be a turning point for the Texans?


Raise your hand if three quarters of the way through Sunday night's game you were pleading with the Texans to feed Lamar Miller the ball (... and not have Brock Osweiler throw any more passes).Not you, Bill. This is a question for the fans ... the fans. Bill O'Brien's game plan got more conservative as the contest wore on. Then, when Houston had to have it, Osweiler, C.J. Fiedorowicz and especially Jaelen Strong, all rose up to make huge plays. That said, the W belongs to Miller (178 scrimmage yards) and a defense that halted the Colts at the end of regulation and again in overtime. Next up: at Broncos on Monday night. Juicy....
 
This is the first of three more prime time games.

That's five altogether, right?

I remember when we would b!tch about never having a prime time game.

Apparently now the networks think we're a thing.
 
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This is the first of three more prime time games.

That's five altogether, right?

I remember when we would b!tch about never having a prime time game.

Apparently now the networks think we're a thing.
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Saw somewhere Sunday night's game vs Colts was the lowest rated Sunday night game on NBC in something like 6 years. Part of it is probably baseball playoffs at the same time, but NBC will remember those ratings next season.
 
paycheck71 said:
Saw somewhere Sunday night's game vs Colts was the lowest rated Sunday night game on NBC in something like 6 years. Part of it is probably baseball playoffs at the same time, but NBC will remember those ratings next season.
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Maybe the baseball playoffs had something to do with the low national ratings but I really think it had more to do with 2 teams that, at least for now, can't compete with the better teams in the league in what many probably thought was going to be a boring game from opponents in a weak Division. Throw in the fact that there was no JJ Watt and I think most people outside of Houston and Indy probably didn't care about the game. NBC tried to play up the angle of Luck being a hometown boy playing at Stratford but I just don't think it draws enough interest nationally, and without Watt as an opponent to kind of build up the tension they really didn't have much of a story. It's to bad so many didn't watch it since the game probably turned out to be one of the more exciting games played, especially the last 7 minutes of regulation and then in to OT! I wonder how many people here wished they hadn't turned off their TV's in the 4th quarter. And, I also wonder how many people up in Indy wished they had turned off their TV's in the 4th quarter! :shades:

Now, next Monday, that should be different. Plenty of story lines with that match up and it should draw a lot better ratings! Just hope the Texans don't lay an egg and get blown out! If they make it a good game (And hopefully a win!) then maybe NBC will remember that game next season.
 
NFL.com Power Rankings Week 8

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4-3 TEXANS

The Texans fall 3 spots after a horrible showing in Denver.


If you like 5-yard ins and none-yard outs, this Texans offense is for you! Much hand-wringing going on in Houston regarding a certain quarterback's contract. Remember, the Texans are not on the hook for the entire $72 million that keeps getting tossed around. Also, it's only Week 8. The offensive line didn't fare well, lost a starter, and Lamar Miller was playing hurt. There's more going on with this team than just bad quarterback play.
 
JamTex said:
NFL.com Power Rankings Week 8

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18


4-3 TEXANS

The Texans fall 3 spots after a horrible showing in Denver.


If you like 5-yard ins and none-yard outs, this Texans offense is for you! Much hand-wringing going on in Houston regarding a certain quarterback's contract. Remember, the Texans are not on the hook for the entire $72 million that keeps getting tossed around. Also, it's only Week 8. The offensive line didn't fare well, lost a starter, and Lamar Miller was playing hurt. There's more going on with this team than just bad quarterback play.
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Thought the Offensive line played well
 
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