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Despite Center Position In Question For the Houston Texans; No Interest In Bryan Stork
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Besides his history of concussions, he is a bad actor. He was pulled out of an OTA practice and an inter-team practice for essentially unprovoked fighting.

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The Redskins will send the Patriots a conditional seventh-round pick in exchange, according to a person with knowledge of the situation. The trade was made official despite Stork informing the Redskins that he might retire once the two teams reached an agreement, according to two people with knowledge of the situation. The trade was briefly held up as a result but, was on the NFL’s transaction wire Wednesday afternoon.
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Decent read about the defense in general.


Clowney ready to take Texans defense to next level
http://www.thescore.com/nfl/news/1083963

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So Romeo Crennel, who is a proven and excellent defensive mind, now has Mercilus and Clowney coming off the edge. Wow. But Crennel has also shown a penchant of late for using Watt as more of an edge player. In reality, when all three are healthy, the options are limitless as to where each player can line up, and Crennel has a history of employing multiple fronts and defensive alignments in his schemes. Again, this is assuming Watt gets right sooner than later.

Crennel was very blitz happy in 2014, but much less so in 2015 - even though the cornerback play could have handled a lot of blitzing. Surely the reasoning behind that is Houston’s pass-rush not needing the extra help. The Texans might have to blitz even less this season, which obviously gives them the ability to flood the field with coverage players and potentially cause more turnovers while allowing fewer big plays.

Crennel also varies and disguises coverages extremely well, but with his stable of cornerbacks, he can also play it straight with a lot of man coverage. Joseph is coming off a great year, is Houston’s top cornerback, and spent quite a bit of time lined up with the opponent’s best wide receiver last year.

Even before Watt’s injury, the depth of Houston’s defensive line was extremely concerning. Vince Wilfork remains a space-eater in the middle, but obviously age is a concern here, and he does very little in the passing game. But the preseason has been encouraging overall with this unit. Houston drafted D.J. Reader in the fifth round to be Wilfork’s eventual successor on the nose and the results have been positive thus far.

Christian Covington certainly won’t ever be confused with Watt, but he has played very well and all the reports on him have also been favorable. So the concern with the defensive line has been minimalized thus far, but it is something to keep an eye on for sure, especially with Watt’s current condition.

The Texans defense was simply outstanding to finish up the 2015 season. If Clowney takes the huge step forward that looks inevitable, Houston’s defense could very well be the best in football. That is, assuming one thing…
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Anybody wish Rick would've spent some of that 10 mil on Okung so he could've tag teamed LT with Brown?

With the Martin news I cant believe Rick didn't trade a late rd pick for Stork. Stork must not be Texans worthy.

Wonder if there will be some decent OL available in trade later on in camp, like Clark was last yr?
 
steelbtexan said:
Anybody wish Rick would've spent some of that 10 mil on Okung so he could've tag teamed LT with Brown?

With the Martin news I cant believe Rick didn't trade a late rd pick for Stork. Stork must not be Texans worthy.

Wonder if there will be some decent OL available in trade later on in camp, like Clark was last yr?
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You have to recognize that O'Brien was trained by Belichick. Neither of them like guys that lose their poise/cool. You never know when a knucklehead like that will lose his temper and draw a penalty at a crucial time and cost the team big time. Belichick obviously had had enough and O'Brien probably thought, we don't need that kind of potential headache from a guy who couldn't even keep his starting position.
 
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You have to recognize that O'Brien was trained by Belichick. Neither of them like guys that lose their poise/cool. You never know when a knucklehead like that will lose his temper and draw a penalty at a crucial time and cost the team big time. Belichick obviously had had enough and O'Brien probably thought, we don't need that kind of potential headache from a guy who couldn't even keep his starting position.
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Stork did start in a SB for the Pats, so I think the reason that Stork was let go was they have drafted Mason/Jackson/signed Andrews in FA 2 yrs ago and drafted Karras this yr in addition to already Josh Kline on the roster already. Like I daid great talent/depth and a great commitment to keeping Brady healthy. I wish McNair/Smith made this kind of commitment to to protecting Os.

Stork's temper certainly didn't help his cause but the real reason he was let go is his replacement was already on the roster. This is a luxury the Texans dont have.
 
Stork was on thin ice with Belichick already because of the playoff loss. NE fired the OL coach shortly after the game due to the OL's terrible performance, allowing a record number of hits on Brady.

But further review of the game showed that Stork was tipping the snap on every single play of the game. Denver picked up on it during halftime adjustments and started jumping the snap for every play of the second half.

That's a big deal. That's a mistake that even a high school Center should be able to avoid. Stork had done the same thing in a game earlier in the year but had seemed to correct it until the Denver game. Belichick strikes me as a coach with a very low tolerance for mental mistakes, and Stork has shown prone to making them.
 
bah007 said:
Stork was on thin ice with Belichick already because of the playoff loss. NE fired the OL coach shortly after the game due to the OL's terrible performance, allowing a record number of hits on Brady.

But further review of the game showed that Stork was tipping the snap on every single play of the game. Denver picked up on it during halftime adjustments and started jumping the snap for every play of the second half.

That's a big deal. That's a mistake that even a high school Center should be able to avoid. Stork had done the same thing in a game earlier in the year but had seemed to correct it until the Denver game. Belichick strikes me as a coach with a very low tolerance for mental mistakes, and Stork has shown prone to making them.
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This is the type of post I appreciate.

I would still have signed Stork for depth purposes, seeing the lack of depth at the interior OL positions.. This is the type of thing that should be correctable.
 
steelbtexan said:
This is the type of post I appreciate.

I would still have signed Stork for depth purposes, seeing the lack of depth at the interior OL positions.. This is the type of thing that should be correctable.
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Mental mistakes, concussion issues, attitude issues, and now it's coming out of Washington that he's contemplating retirement.

Hard pass.
 
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steelbtexan said:
This is the type of post I appreciate.

I would still have signed Stork for depth purposes, seeing the lack of depth at the interior OL positions.. This is the type of thing that should be correctable.
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I could have sworn I read reports about New England's OL being in bad shape last season. Wasn't Stork part of that? or was he the one shining spot?
 
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I think Clark would be a valuable reserve on most NFL teams. But it's tough to find one where he would be a starting LT.
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and the plan was he would not be starting tackle on this team. I am concerned if he has to start more than 4-5 games if Brown is delayed.
 
Doubt anyone argues that he is a good back up swing that can start for a few games. He did seem to end season playing better so.. I'm hopeful.
 
badboy said:
Doubt anyone argues that he is a good back up swing that can start for a few games. He did seem to end season playing better so.. I'm hopeful.
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Does his body breakdown or something? He's been getting a lot of reps in practice.

Hopefully he'll hold up through the first three games before he starts breaking down. Bears, Chiefs, Pats... that would help out a lot.
 
ObsiWan said:
Hey now, Jam at least has the patience to wait until after our game has finished.
Just 26 milliseconds after it's finished but hey.....
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It's written already, just not posted. I have been with JT on the old board, love that enthusiasm. We had to give him some therapy after the Miami game, but he is a true believer
 
thunderkyss said:
Does his body breakdown or something? He's been getting a lot of reps in practice.

Hopefully he'll hold up through the first three games before he starts breaking down. Bears, Chiefs, Pats... that would help out a lot.
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I don't think so. He is a 31 YOA (Oct) average skills tackle. He started only about 40% of games when he was on Denver's roster. He was brought on board to plug in either side for 4-5 games if needed in case a starter went out with a minor injury. His current two year deal placed him 24th of 97 right tackles. As I think he would be much better, I wish he was starting while Newton is out. Positive thinking says he is getting good experience on left but I don't want him there all season.
 
NFL preseason Week 3 winners, losers
http://www.espn.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/212031/nfl-preseason-week-3-winners-and-losers
Brock Osweiler, Houston Texans quarterback: It's amazing how little we know about the on-field proficiency of a player who was guaranteed $37 million during the offseason. But Sunday brought the best evidence yet that Osweiler is up to the challenge of starting full time for the Texans. Osweiler converted 11 of 13 passes for 146 yards and a touchdown as the Texans' offense rolled up 31 points in the first half of a 34-24 victory over the Arizona Cardinals. Most notable was how decisive Osweiler was, albeit behind excellent pass protection. There was little of the kind of hesitation that suggests a player feels uncomfortable. He also threw two beautiful deep passes to rookie Will Fuller. One went for a 35-yard gain, and Fuller dropped the other.
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This from ESPN:

http://espn.go.com/blog/houston-texans/post/_/id/17020/texans-quarterback-brock-osweiler-cardinals

Osweiler said there was a play in the game when the offense was in a five wide set and when he looked at the picture of the play later on the sideline, he saw there were four receivers open on the play.

“It’s just very impressive to see that,” Osweiler said. “We have a very talented, skilled group in the offensive room, but they don’t rest on their talent. I think that entire group works extremely hard. Our coaches prepare us, our coaches push us hard."
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If the Oline can patch itself together this will be fun!
 
Just exercising my brain with possibilities, there's been comment on which receivers make the final 53. I know it unlikely, but I'm thinking I'd like some way for Williams to be on the final squad, to be used in a 5 receiver set which I'd run 4 to 8 times a game. I'd line him and Fuller wide on each side and send them on a streak pattern down the sidelines. I'd line Hopkins and Strong up in the slots and send them deep in the middle of the field. I'd move Anderson around, but have him one on one against a LB in the 10 to 15 yard area, but would be a safety valve. Of course, there would be variations, but Os would read the match ups on Williams, Fuller, Hopkins and Strong and just let fly with a quick timing bomb.

Williams would be a one trick pony, but I'd like to keep him for that speed and then use it.
 
So we'll get KC with no Justin Houston
then NE with no Brady
and Minny with no Bridgewater

Let's hope we can take advantage of each
 
So we'll get KC with no Justin Houston
then NE with no Brady
and Minny with no Bridgewater

Let's hope we can take advantage of each
 
Number19 said:
... I'd line him and Fuller wide on each side and send them on a streak pattern down the sidelines. I'd line Hopkins and Strong up in the slots and send them deep in the middle of the field. I'd move Anderson around, but have him one on one against a LB in the 10 to 15 yard area...
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I like that plan. An alternative would be to send Williams and Fuller deep, and Hopkins and Strong to the flats on each side to draw some defenders towards the sidelines, leaving less defenders downfield. Anderson catches the pass, Fuller and Williams make some pseudo-blocks on the deep defensive backs, Anderson breaks a tackle, touchdown! Hell yeah!
 
Number19 said:
Just exercising my brain with possibilities, there's been comment on which receivers make the final 53. I know it unlikely, but I'm thinking I'd like some way for Williams to be on the final squad, to be used in a 5 receiver set which I'd run 4 to 8 times a game. I'd line him and Fuller wide on each side and send them on a streak pattern down the sidelines. I'd line Hopkins and Strong up in the slots and send them deep in the middle of the field. I'd move Anderson around, but have him one on one against a LB in the 10 to 15 yard area, but would be a safety valve. Of course, there would be variations, but Os would read the match ups on Williams, Fuller, Hopkins and Strong and just let fly with a quick timing bomb.

Williams would be a one trick pony, but I'd like to keep him for that speed and then use it.
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Definitely agree but Williams needs to show something to make roster. He might lead a defender deep once or twice but if doesn't catch a pass, he will be basically ignored. I am all about speed but as it stands today (hopefully Williams goes berserk vs Dallas) he will not even get a PS spot. I'd rather see Fuller, Strong, Hopkins and either Anderson and/or Braxton Miller line up.
 
badboy said:
Definitely agree but Williams needs to show something to make roster. He might lead a defender deep once or twice but if doesn't catch a pass, he will be basically ignored. I am all about speed but as it stands today (hopefully Williams goes berserk vs Dallas) he will not even get a PS spot. I'd rather see Fuller, Strong, Hopkins and either Anderson and/or Braxton Miller line up.
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What makes it difficult is we hear the positives coming out of camp - the bombs Williams catches from usually, Weeden. You don't hear how many misses or drops. My impression is that he has had a good camp; but you also haven't seen him much in the games, which speaks volumns. Fuller, Hopkins and Strong are our big three. After that we have a multitude of options. I've had a slow week at work and have amused myself diagraming offensive sets and plays. I'm really excited about the possibilities and that we could have a really explosive offense. I know several of you responded optimistically, but I sure hope OB has the flexibility to fully exploit our talent.
 
Number19 said:
What makes it difficult is we hear the positives coming out of camp - the bombs Williams catches from usually, Weeden. You don't hear how many misses or drops. My impression is that he has had a good camp; but you also haven't seen him much in the games, which speaks volumns. Fuller, Hopkins and Strong are our big three. After that we have a multitude of options. I've had a slow week at work and have amused myself diagraming offensive sets and plays. I'm really excited about the possibilities and that we could have a really explosive offense. I know several of you responded optimistically, but I sure hope OB has the flexibility to fully exploit our talent.
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I think we have a big four including B. Miller, he is more than an option. He will probably have more catches than either Fuller or Strong. Excluding serious injuries, we will have an explosive offense and I would not be against seeing a lot of 4 and 5 wr sets and a hurry up offense to gass the defense.

The best part is that our offense is they are so young and will have years to work together, we will be more dangerous each year for the foreseeable future and we will be able to draft at other positions as needed.
 
BYDS said:
I think we have a big four including B. Miller, he is more than an option. He will probably have more catches than either Fuller or Strong. Excluding serious injuries, we will have an explosive offense and I would not be against seeing a lot of 4 and 5 wr sets and a hurry up offense to gass the defense.

The best part is that our offense is they are so young and will have years to work together, we will be more dangerous each year for the foreseeable future and we will be able to draft at other positions as needed.
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As an offensive weapon, I agree. But I see him more than just a WR. If I was coach I would have him at QB in one of our basic formations. I could also see him lining up at RB. I could see Chip Kelley building an entire offense around this kid's skill set. I think we will carry all three of our QB's, but I would be comfortable going with two and having Miller as our third option. As an aside, how good of a passer is B. Miller.
 
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