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The Johnny "Football" Manziel NFL thread

He's a class act all around. Great answers to all the questions. He's right on the money.
Yeah, Tony G makes me watch the CBS pre-game and post-game shows more often because of his great commentary and analysis.

For years I used to watch the FOX pre-game show with J.B, Terry Bradshaw, Jimmy Johnson, Howie Long and Michael Strahan.

CBS had Dan Marino, Boomer Esiason, Shannon Sharpe and Bill Cowher (it was okay but something was missing). But when they added Tony Gonzalez they made me a fan of that new look "NFL Today" on CBS crew.

I was sort of tied in to CBS anyways because they air 75 % of Texans games. But I wasn't always loyal to their panel of experts.
 
What I don't understand is why so many people are still so obsessed with hanging out and partying with Manziel. I mean he's kind of like a friend of mine from back in high school. Everybody loved him then but as we all went off and actually went to college, got jobs, and made something of our lives, he was still living the same life he lived in high school. Sure, I still party, but it isn't cool anymore to hang out with people that still think they are kids with no responsibilities. Yet somehow, Manziel continues to be treated like an actual somebody.

My daughter lives in Bryan, her husband just graduated from A&M. They said Manziel is pretty much a jerk to all those not in his inner circle.
 

I was hesitant to quote the video because I'm not the biggest fan of Heath Evans. But, what he said was so on the mark that I figured what the heck.

So many players never get the chances that Manziel gets, and I think it pisses a lot of vets off because Manziel not only seems to take it all for granted, but craps all over it and it comes off as very disrespectful to the NFL.
 
My daughter lives in Bryan, her husband just graduated from A&M. They said Manziel is pretty much a jerk to all those not in his inner circle.
Same thing I have heard. I don't know anyone with any close connection to him, but those I know that live in College Station say he's always been incredibly arrogant. Just not a good person.

A lot of this was kind of hidden back when he was in college with him being treated like a god and all. But now that the shine has worn off, he's being seen for who he really is.
 
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I was hesitant to quote the video because I'm not the biggest fan of Heath Evans. But, what he said was so on the mark that I figured what the heck.

So many players never get the chances that Manziel gets, and I think it pisses a lot of vets off because Manziel not only seems to take it all for granted, but craps all over it and it comes off as very disrespectful to the NFL.
Couldn't agree more. Like I said to JB, I was kidding around. Heath Evans isn't exactly the first guy I'd look to for advice if I were Manziel. Now if someone like Dan Marino, Peyton, Brady, or someone like that lit into Manziel, well that'd be something else. Regardless, Evans is on the money. What Manziel did the Wednesday before he was supposed to start in Week 17 is one of the most despicable things I have ever heard a football player do; that is at least for something that involves football.

The Manziel I defended for a long time was the guy in college that partied his ass off in the offseason, was a douche bag, but he took care of business when the game started. Seems like once he got paid, that Manziel disappeared.
 
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My daughter lives in Bryan, her husband just graduated from A&M. They said Manziel is pretty much a jerk to all those not in his inner circle.
And as my sisters said "he is a spoiled asshole". When they both went to Tivy.

Yes those people that were close to him. He was cool but those not in his circle. Just a non disciplined immature spoiled brat. He was treated like a God on the field (righfully so) yet acted like one off



Edit.... my sisters ran track and you think that for tbe most part jocks have a little bit of bonding as a,group..noo he was still an asshole..another friend that playedwith hom said hed get in trouble with coaches because if he had a,shot to hit him he would

Not sure if he was full of **** with me or not. But he hated him too
 
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Same thing I have heard. I don't know anyone with any close connection to him, but those I know that live in College Station say he's always been incredibly arrogant. Just not a good person.

A lot of this was kind of hidden back when he was in college with him being treated like a god and all. But now that the shine has worn off, he's being seen for who he really is.
You posted while i was typing. It goes back to Kerrville also. He hasn't changed. His parents did him no favors.

My friend played golf regularly with the manziels ..well one day at school manziel and his son got into a fight. His son didnt throw the first punch. Tivy has a,zero tolerance policy and both students were going to be expelled. The Manziels raised a ***** fit about it...guess who didn't get expelled.....
 
Same thing I have heard. I don't know anyone with any close connection to him, but those I know that live in College Station say he's always been incredibly arrogant. Just not a good person.

A lot of this was kind of hidden back when he was in college with him being treated like a god and all. But now that the shine has worn off, he's being seen for who he really is.

Word is coming out now that he was coddled in high school, as well, and it was said that there are stories we've never heard that shows his immaturity and lack of respect for his many opportunities is ingrained into his very being.

It's a shame, because the dude has raw talent. He's very much like Vince Young in many ways. They could have been solid pros, but instead screw up their golden tickets in life with immature nonsense.
 
You posted while i was typing. It goes back to Kerrville also. He hasn't changed. His parents did him no favors.

My friend played golf regularly with the manziels ..well one day at school manziel and his son got into a fight. His son didnt throw the first punch. Tivy has a,zero tolerance policy and both students were going to be expelled. The Manziels raised a ***** fit about it...guess who didn't get expelled.....
Either you posted that before and/or I read something similar somewhere else. I certainly believe it.

This is what's sad about sports in America. All too often we excuse the behavior of great athletes and enable them far too much. Manziel is the poster child for a guy that has been letdown by everyone close to him with how they have enabled his awful behavior. Now, he is screwing himself for the rest of his life out of his one opportunity to make a ton of money and live a life most of us can only dream about. All because he refuses to take responsibility for his actions and focus on his job.
 
What if Johnny Manziel were to move in with you and live in your household under your guidance? Could you help him change his ways? I would hang out with him, watching movies and TV shows, cooking good food, playing video games. The stuff guys his age should be doing for fun without always going out to the clubs all the time. I think I could hang out with Johnny and keep him out of trouble.


Got to hand it to him. How is he scoring all of these hot chicks at the club? Do these drunken girls not know how he treated his ex girlfriend and that she put a restraining order on him?

Is it just because of the money and fame he has? He made a nice chunk of change from his first-round rookie contract but it's not like he's paid like a superstar quarterback.

Is he just living the party life while he can?
His own father thinks he'll be dead before he turns 24.

I want to see Johnny Manziel pull it together...
Get signed by another team and have some success.

He's still a kid to me. A lot of guys don't grow up until 27 or 28. Although given his profession he's in the spotlight and every move he makes is magnified.

One day Johnny Manziel may want to settle down, get married and have kids. But I'm concerned with the way he treats these young ladies. He hooks up with new girls every time he goes to the club. Sometimes two or three at a time. I'm surprised his ex stuck with his cheating ways for so long.

I'm not sure Johnny Manziel needs anything other than a reliable friend. In general I want to believe Johnny is a good guy. He just has to hang out with the right people.
 
What I don't understand is why so many people are still so obsessed with hanging out and partying with Manziel. I mean he's kind of like a friend of mine from back in high school. Everybody loved him then but as we all went off and actually went to college, got jobs, and made something of our lives, he was still living the same life he lived in high school. Sure, I still party, but it isn't cool anymore to hang out with people that still think they are kids with no responsibilities. Yet somehow, Manziel continues to be treated like an actual somebody.
If you look at who he hangs around with, those are exactly the types that you described......groupies that gain by proximity his money left overs, or by the "presitige" of association with him...........doesn't matter that some may be celebrities.......they tend to be the worst...........adults that are like kids, just like him, with lots of money................
 
I was hesitant to quote the video because I'm not the biggest fan of Heath Evans. But, what he said was so on the mark that I figured what the heck.

So many players never get the chances that Manziel gets, and I think it pisses a lot of vets off because Manziel not only seems to take it all for granted, but craps all over it and it comes off as very disrespectful to the NFL.
I saw Heath's rant live. If Manziel had been in the same room, I think Heath would have had to be physically restrained.
 
You mean all those teams interested in him passed up their golden opportunity?:chef:
The Broncos don't want to pony up any big money to sign Ryan Fitzpatrick. I think they'll end up signing Johnny Manziel. At this point he can be signed to a cheap, no-risk contract. For his own sake it's probably best if he's out of football for the full 2016 season. But some desperate team isn't going to bypass that talent and potential.
 
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I saw Heath's rant live. If Manziel had been in the same room, I think Heath would have had to be physically restrained.
That would have been good entertainment if nothing else. We could use another modern day Jim Rome vs. Jim Everett. I remember watching that late on a Friday Night back in junior high. That was like the early days of ESPN2.

 
The Broncos don't want to pony up any big money to sign Ryan Fitzpatrick. I think they'll end up signing Johnny Manziel. At this point he can be signed to a cheap, no-risk contract. For his own sake it's probably best if he's out of football for the full 2016 season. But some desperate team isn't going to bypass that talent and potential.
Johnny's still partying...........video captures him coming out of another club saying he will play again this year............looks and speaks like he's stoned.http://fox8.com/2016/03/14/watch-and-listen-johnny-manziel-says-of-course-ill-play-again/#
 
Johnny's still partying...........video captures him coming out of another club saying he will play again this year............looks and speaks like he's stoned.http://fox8.com/2016/03/14/watch-and-listen-johnny-manziel-says-of-course-ill-play-again/#

Two new ladies leaving with him (well I'm being nice calling them that), as usual. At least this time he sounded positive and even gave a shout out to his mother back in Tyler, Texas. I hate to say it but he's back to being Johnny gentleman - the one that deceives these NFL teams. Being stoned may be his prozac. He's even friendly to the TMZ camera guys.

I'd be in Johnny's corner right now if his ex girlfriend didn't have to get a restraining order against him. He lost my respect when he abused his girlfriend. For a few weeks I tried to "not believe it" but the police reports make it hard for me not to believe it.

All the partying and this other stuff doesn't bother me as much. That would actually be pretty cool if he did some good things on the field and won a lot of games. He could be the modern day Joe Namath. Imagine if social media - TMZ Sports mobile, Twitter, etc... etc... was around back when he won a Super Bowl for the New York Jets. He'd be doing a lot of the same things.
 
Honest truth here, I hope he never plays another down of football. I hope he disappears quickly and I really don't care whether the next time (years from how) he surfaces its because he's going to jail or he has straightened out his life and found Jesus. I just don't give a flying ****. I just don't want to read or hear about him anymore.

Yes, I understand how unlikely that is.
 
Honest truth here, I hope he never plays another down of football. I hope he disappears quickly and I really don't care whether the next time (years from how) he surfaces its because he's going to jail or he has straightened out his life and found Jesus. I just don't give a flying ****. I just don't want to read or hear about him anymore.

Yes, I understand how unlikely that is.
Well, the first step is to "UnWatch" this thread.
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TexansTalk is kind of my home. I comment on a lot of things that the rest of you are interested in not because I am necessarily but because you are. It's been a long, long time since I brought anything to the table on Johnny Manziel because I'm tired of him but I follow in here to see what you guys have to say. Outside of here I read the headline, smh and move on.
 
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Where is that big Texas A&M backing that he had a couple years ago? Remember when rich Aggie almuni were putting up billboards in downtown Houston (there were two not far from where I live), taking out newspaper ads in the Houston Chronicle as well, promoting the idea and trying to encourage the Houston Texans to draft him? I haven't seen those people around anymore commenting on Johnny Manziel.

I only do because I'm still intrigued by his talent on the field. I don't believe he's reached anywhere near his potential, not even scratched the surface, and he's still young and athletic enough to make big plays on the field.

In another two or three years it's going to be too late if he doesn't turn his life around soon. He'll become another Vince Young. Just a sad story for an otherwise talented quarterback.

If not for that ex girlfriend abuse situation he was a part of not too long ago, the alleged domestic violence assault - the one that led to his restraining order with her, I'd probably still be in Johnny's corner right now.

I'm only hoping he turns his life around from afar. What he can become on the football field is only secondary in nature, but for his sake it could just save his life if he finds another job now that I think about it. I don't see how not being signed by another team will help him (time off is good but having no job isn't). He'll be everything he is now but with less money to play with.

If Johnny Manziel weren't playing football nobody would care about what he's doing or where his life is going. He'd be just like the average guy - no different than you and I for that matter.

At least in the spotlight, as an NFL quarterback, he can still have a positive impact on the lives of people. I know right now that isn't the case but if he's given the opportunity there's always a chance, albeit small chance, he can start doing the right things on and off the field.

He's no Tim Tebow, let's face it. And Tebow, a good Christian man and a great role model, is having trouble sticking around as an NFL quarterback. Partly because of his unconventional throwing mechanics.
 
Where is that big Texas A&M backing that he had a couple years ago? Remember when rich Aggie almuni were putting up billboards in downtown Houston (there were two not far from where I live), taking out newspaper ads in the Houston Chronicle as well, promoting the idea and trying to encourage the Houston Texans to draft him? I haven't seen those people around anymore commenting on Johnny Manziel.

I only do because I'm still intrigued by his talent on the field. I don't believe he's reached anywhere near his potential, not even scratched the surface, and he's still young and athletic enough to make big plays on the field.

In another two or three years it's going to be too late if he doesn't turn his life around soon. He'll become another Vince Young. Just a sad story for an otherwise talented quarterback.

If not for that ex girlfriend abuse situation he was a part of not too long ago, the alleged domestic violence assault - the one that led to his restraining order with her, I'd probably still be in Johnny's corner right now.

I'm only hoping he turns his life around from afar. What he can become on the football field is only secondary in nature, but for his sake it could just save his life if he finds another job now that I think about it. I don't see how not being signed by another team will help him (time off is good but having no job isn't). He'll be everything he is now but with less money to play with.

If Johnny Manziel weren't playing football nobody would care about what he's doing or where his life is going. He'd be just like the average guy - no different than you and I for that matter.

At least in the spotlight, as an NFL quarterback, he can still have a positive impact on the lives of people. I know right now that isn't the case but if he's given the opportunity there's always a chance, albeit small chance, he can start doing the right things on and off the field.

He's no Tim Tebow, let's face it. And Tebow, a good Christian man and a great role model, is having trouble sticking around as an NFL quarterback. Partly because of his unconventional throwing mechanics.

Dude, he doesn't need the money from the NFL. His family is loaded and from all the stuff that has come out on this failure of a human being, he doesn't give a sh*t about applying himself to be better. Obviously he will blow smoke up anyone's butt, telling them what they want to hear, and has done so on a multitude of occasions. He lacks any amount of integrity, all the stupid ass excuses of "he's only doing what any young man would do" are just that. Excuses made up by mainly grown ass men; which is weird in itself.

I get that you want him to succeed and (for some reason) hold out hope that he will somehow transform into a wonderful person. All that feel good, lovey, sunshiney, fields of flowers, hugs with rainbow kisses hoping he will have a positive impact on lives of people is crazy talk. Johnny Manziel is in it for Johnny Manziel. He doesn't give a crap about you, Texas A&M, the Browns or their fans, doing the right thing, transforming his life, puppies, sick kids, or getting sober. All of what Johnny Manziel is has been on display for awhile now, people refuse to see it because of fandom or willful ignorance.

Last but not least - stop expecting celebrities and athletes to be role models. Yes, there are some genuinely good ones. For the ones that look like they are, but are not - PR firms. They get paid to make sh*t smell good.

Apologies in advance if this came off as a lecture; not my intention.
 
I thought I heard his father say they have cut him off financially? They can't even locate him most of the time to get him the help that he needs. His own father has begged others to help his son and that he doubts he will live to see 24 years old.

He's partying with his own money from what I understand. That nice healthy rookie contract (first-round money). Which is why I found it odd that he gave a shout out to his mother in that last party video that surfaced.

Johnny Manziel, he can still turn it around. He's young enough. I've been in his position before, not to that extreme but maybe I'm in the minority but I hope he can succeed. I hate to see others fail in that position. Any of us could be dead and buried tomorrow regardless of how we live our lives - life is too short. You have to work with what you have and overcome adversity.
 
Pity. It was a pretty good lecture.
it was but I don't entirely agree with all of it because it may not be the right generalization to have. Unless we are actually hanging out with Johnny Manziel we can't truly understand.

Some athletes are great role models: Tim Tebow (a shame he can't stick around an NFL team), J.J. Watt, Jose Altuve, Carlos Correa, Dallas Keuchel, Chris Paul and dare I even say, LeBron James (not his biggest fan but I admire what he does with his charities, great family man and talent).

You can look around different sports and see generally great men that lead by example on and off the court, field, etc... etc... Guys you would like to be like.

I actually use a Carlos Correa avatar and J.J. Watt signature. Just because I admire what they mean to many fans all around the world, young superstars in their respective sport. Taking over the game the right way.

Tremendous role models for anybody to have whether you're a sports fan or not.
 
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an appeal to everyone...
How old are we that we can remember that Matthew Broderick flick from the '80s, still remember his grown up version (more like he never had a day off) called "Election" that came out in 1999. And yet in 2016, we should be wondering how old is Matthew Broderick for that matter? LOL, the last time I watched one of his movies was a Christmas film called "Deck The Halls" that came out in 2006. Danny DeVito was in it too.
 
I thought I heard his father say they have cut him off financially? They can't even locate him most of the time to get him the help that he needs. His own father has begged others to help his son and that he doubts he will live to see 24 years old.

He's partying with his own money from what I understand. That nice healthy rookie contract (first-round money). Which is why I found it odd that he gave a shout out to his mother in that last party video that surfaced.
As a first round pick, almost all of Manziel's four year contract was guaranteed. At the time they waived him, the Browns were still on the hook for his 2016 and 2017 base salaries - which total approx. $2.175 Million.
 
As a first round pick, almost all of Manziel's four year contract was guaranteed. At the time they waived him, the Browns were still on the hook for his 2016 and 2017 base salaries - which total approx. $2.175 Million.

Been waiting to see if they will attempt to void the contract for conduct detrimental including missing his scheduled Dr's appointment.
 
I believe that this is the problem with ol Johnny Football. His father needs to be helping him, NOT others. Because I'm sure it was him that enabled Manziel his entire life. Manziel probably has not heard the word "no" in 20 years.

And at Manziel's age, his father father saying "no" makes no difference..........nor can his father get him committed. Bottom line Manziel is the only one that can get help.......and it all starts by asking for help........and meaning it. His last rehab was strictly for show.........and that "JFF Show" is very close to being cancelled............permanently..........without anyone purchasing the rights to reruns...........
 
This is about as damning a report as you can get as far as Manziel's approach and respect for his profession.

Report: Johnny Manziel was disinterested with Browns, 'had no clue' during practice
By Greg Rajan

Updated 3:43 pm, Tuesday, March 15, 2016

Johnny Manziel is no longer a Cleveland Brown, having been jettisoned by the franchise that placed its faith in him as the savior for a long-suffering fan base.

According to a new report, the Manziel who was in Cleveland the past two seasons was one who slept off hangovers in the back of equipment rooms and was ill-prepared and "had no clue" about being a quarterback at the NFL level.

Emily Kaplan of Sports Illustrated's The MMQB website did a deep dive into Manziel's Browns tenure titled "The Fall of Johnny Football" and the findings were far from positive for a quarterback better known for his off-field partying than any achievements of note on the gridiron.

According to the report, Manziel had come back from his two-month stint in a Pennsylvania rehab facility last spring a changed man. He hired Julius Scott, his former high school offensive coordinator in Kerrville, as something of a life coach and by last July, "coaches and friends had the sense that Manziel had his life under control."

However, that didn't last, as Scott was dismissed by the summer, as friends said Manziel "found his presence overbearing" and then-girlfriend Colleen Crowley moved into Manziel's home in suburban Cleveland.

On the field, Manziel reportedly checked out mentally after he wasn't made the starter following a victory over Tennessee in Week 2. He reportedly believed the starting job was his, but when former Browns coach Mike Pettine declared veteran Josh McCown as the starter after he cleared concussion protocol, Manziel was "incredulous."

Being sent back to backup duty apparently was a tipping point for Manziel, and "instigated Manziel's downward spiral," Kaplan reported.

Friends too, noticed that Manziel was disengaged after the Titans game, though they saw him regroup a few more times during the season. Before the Steelers game in Week 10, for example, Manziel was acting with confidence, as Pettine had just tapped him as the starter for a second consecutive game.

"If Johnny doesn't have a carrot dangling in front of him, he resorts to his default," says a friend. "And his default is not giving a s---."

As for the partying that consumed his off-field life, Browns coaches reportedly issued several warnings to Manziel during the season, which Kaplan reported included Pettine summoning Manziel into his office before the Week 11 bye and telling the QB, "Don't do anything that will embarrass us."

Manziel was then filmed partying in Austin, with the video going viral and getting him demoted to third string.

"The moment he saw that video on Twitter," a friend says, "His reaction was literally, 'F---!' He knew he screwed up. He knew he shouldn't have done that."

Manziel's behavior also reportedly included showing up late to the Browns' facility for meetings and per sources, sometimes sleeping off hangovers in equipment rooms.

Meanwhile, the company he kept troubled Manziel's marketing team, who tried to get him to separate from his entourage.

On several occasions, they plopped the quarterback in front of a white board, mapping out the times he got in trouble and the people he was with when those incidents occurred.

As for his professional development, Kaplan's report described a Manziel who was uninterested in all the off-field work that goes into being an NFL quarterback.

Manziel had never had a playbook before he entered the NFL — Texas A&M issued its players weekly game plans—and he barely studied it. He struggled through weekly quarterback tests. At practice, the offense would run a set of 10 scripted plays, with Manziel (as the No. 2 QB) running two of them. He would brush up on those two plays, and only those two plays.

"(So) when he was thrust into (the starter's) role, it became very clear he had no idea what was going on," says a former Browns coach. "He went out there and had no clue."

During the 2014 season, when then-starter Brian Hoyer was injured and Manziel's workload was increased, "he'd often blank," leaving offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan to simplify the playbook to the point where a Browns source said "you or I could have lined up under center."

Manziel also reportedly didn't endear himself to team officials by uttering remarks like "I bet it's nice in Dallas right now" during a cold day at practice.

Kaplan also touched on Manziel's days at Texas A&M and Kerrville Tivy, where he reportedly operated with an air of entitlement and being an untouchable.

"In a lot of ways, he was the anti-Texas A&M personality," Jason Cook, the Senior Associate Athletic Director who was directly involved with all marketing campaigns in 2013, told The MMQB.

"The university has always been known as tradition-rich and conservative. Johnny was flashy, he was confident, he was unpredictable. That's something that attracted both Aggies and non-Aggies."

Unfortunately for Manziel, his NFL antics don't seem to be attracting interest from teams anytime soon.
 
This is about as damning a report as you can get as far as Manziel's approach and respect for his profession.
It's not very flattering and it's a bit saddening to me, but Johnny Manziel is probably hitting up the clubs again tonight not worrying too much about it. Life is good for him right now. Or so it seems.
 
Man, if only Cleveland had had the time and resources to check into Johnny's past that this reporter did.

A homeless man could have told you how this was going to end.
 
There is NO reason to believe this little boy can be counted on to lead men in anything other than a round of beer This isn't college and where his ability was more than enough. pong. He lacks everything to be a good pro.
 
Manziel believed Browns coaches didn’t want him; LINK


For starters, a close friend of Manziel’s said that Manziel “never really felt like the coaches wanted him there.” A source with knowledge of the situation tells PFT that Manziel and other players indeed sensed that the coaches didn’t want Manziel.

Players felt differently, according to Kaplan. “His teammates all love him, and stand up for him,” an unnamed player told her.

Another source tells PFT that the love for Manziel wasn’t universal among players. However, the sense that the coaches didn’t want Manziel added to the decision of a large number of players to embrace and support Manziel, in part because of the perception that he was being punished for his partying.

The perception that the coaches didn’t want Manziel may have come from the reality that he wasn’t suited to being an NFL quarterback. A former Browns coach tells Kaplan that, once Manziel became the starter, “he had no idea what was going on. He went out there and had no clue.”


As a rookie working with joystick-twisting offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan, the offense was stripped down for Manziel to something so simple that “you or I could have lined up under center,” the unnamed coach said.

They probably didn't want someone that didn't know WTF they were doing. I can see that.
 
He had also done everything the Browns had asked of him the previous offseason—the rehab, the move to the suburbs, less drinking.
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And that's why it wasn't going to work......it wasn't his idea then........and it is unlikely that it will be his idea now.
 
There is NO reason to believe this little boy can be counted on to lead men in anything other than a round of beer This isn't college and where his ability was more than enough. pong. He lacks everything to be a good pro.

Yep. It will be a truly desperate team that tries to give him another chance. But, based on his entire history, he'll blow that chance, too.

And I'm not so sure that Texas A&M gives him the 'ambassador' position that VY got from UT after hearing about the SI article. They were going to kick him out of school, but Kevin Sumlin convinced them to keep him and he made Manziel the starting QB the next day.
 
Yep. It will be a truly desperate team that tries to give him another chance. But, based on his entire history, he'll blow that chance, too.

And I'm not so sure that Texas A&M gives him the 'ambassador' position that VY got from UT after hearing about the SI article. They were going to kick him out of school, but Kevin Sumlin convinced them to keep him and he made Manziel the starting QB the next day.

You know, I don't even think a desperate team would take a shot. I mean Tebow, with better numbers, other than he couldn't hit the water if he fell out of a boat, lasted just 3 seasons and he wasn't close to being the train wreck Manziel is.

I don't see anybody taking a chance with him, especially with how important that position is.
 
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You know, I don't even think a desperate team would take a shot. I mean Tebow, with better numbers, other than he couldn't hit the water if he fell out of a boat, lasted just 3 seasons and he wasn't close to being the train wreck Manziel is.

I don't see anybody taking a chance with him, especially with how important that position.

I'm not sure that Manziel's career arc is really that different from JaMarcus Russell's.
 
If A&M would have put the hammer down when they should have, it would have saved many a lot of grief...............but JFF's dad's money greased too many palms for his precious little **** to suffer his natural due consequences.
Johnny Manziel reportedly almost transferred from Texas A&M before his 2012 Heisman season

By Frank Schwab June 19, 2013 9:57 AM Dr. Saturday

The legend of Johnny Football almost never came to be, at least at Texas A&M.

Johnny Manziel almost transferred out of Texas A&M after his arrest last year, after he was initially suspended by the school for the entire 2012 season. That very interesting piece of news was broken by the Dallas Morning News, citing an unnamed source. The news comes a few days after Manziel angrily tweeted that he can't wait to leave College Station.

Manziel was charged with disorderly conduct by fighting, failure to identify and having a fake driver's license last summer. The report said A&M decided to suspend him for the entire season, and had Manziel not won his appeal he was going to leave the school, the Dallas Morning News said.

Manziel won the appeal of his suspension, which significantly changed the course of college football history.


Manziel set several records last year in becoming the first freshman to win the Heisman Trophy. The suspension was not handed down by the athletic department, but the school, and the report said dean of student life Anne Reber ruled in favor of Manziel's appeal.

But just think of what might have changed had the ruling gone the other way and Manziel had transferred:

• Where would Manziel have gone? Since we're all caught up in the greatness of Manziel now, we've mostly forgotten that he's the most improbable Heisman winner ever, based on his status just before his award-winning season. As Texas A&M ruled on his appeal, Manziel was just a three-star recruit. Nobody knew at this time last year he was Johnny Football. Had he transferred and been restricted from going elsewhere in the SEC (and possibly other schools), who would have taken on this good but not great recruit who at that point was best known for being arrested and leaving Texas A&M following a suspension? Some school would have grabbed him (maybe Texas would have gotten their safety after all!), but obviously his entire career would have played out differently at another school, especially having to sit out a second straight season.

• Would Texas A&M have been nearly as good without Manziel? The Aggies are one of the up-and-coming programs in college football and doing well in recruiting, but a lot of that is due to Manziel's contributions to an 11-2 season. And would Jameill Showers, who was competing with Manziel for the job last year, been a star in his own right? ("Jameill Football" doesn't have the same ring to it.) It's possible, given how Kevin Sumlin's offense produces yards and points. It's more likely that Texas A&M wouldn't be the defending Cotton Bowl champions right now.

• Alabama still probably wins the BCS title anyway, but I guess the possibility exists that the Manziel-led upset in Tuscaloosa sharpened the Crimson Tide's focus and humbled them down the stretch, allowing them to run the table including a close win against Georgia in the SEC title game. Or maybe, Alabama's loss affected Oregon and Kansas State just a bit, and the resulting pressure of knowing the path to a title was clear played at least a small part in their upset losses a week later. The season likely plays out the same way, but it's at least possible that Alabama not losing to Texas A&M would have upset the ecosystem in some fashion.

• Would Manti Te'o be the Heisman Trophy winner right now? You'd have to assume so. It's crazy to believe this but absolutely true: The Te'o fake girlfriend scandal would have been a much, much bigger deal had it all happened to a Heisman Trophy winner, especially the first solely defensive player ever to win it. The anger towards Te'o would have multiplied if he was in the cherished Heisman club. At least we were all spared that part of the story.

As fans of the sport, we're glad that it all worked out for Manziel and Texas A&M. But it sure is interesting to ponder all the different ways history would have changed if it hadn't.
 
Johnny Manziel should hire Doug Flutie as his mentor and trainer. Man, how old is that dude? 53 or so? He looks in great shape and like he could still throw the pigskin around.

 
Just another futile attempt to have someone "do IT for him."
Johnny Manziel just hired a big-time NFL agent, but it might not help him
By John Breech | CBSSports.com
March 19, 2016 6:36 pm ET

Six weeks after he was dropped by his agent, Johnny Manziel has finally found new representation.

CBS Sports NFL Insider Jason La Canfora reported on Saturday that Manziel is now officially being represented by Drew Rosenhaus. The super agent currently represents dozens of NFL players, including LeSean McCoy and Rob Gronkowski.

For Manziel, Rosenhaus will be the second agent he's hired during his brief NFL career. Manziel had previously been represented by Erik Burkhardt, but that relationship ended on Feb. 5 when Burkhardt dumped Manziel following an alleged domestic abuse incident in Texas.

Being Manziel's agent probably isn't going to be easy. According to La Canfora, NFL teams have zero interest in Manziel right now due to his constant partying. Over the past two months, Manziel has been spotted drinking and partying in Mexico, Los Angeles and Miami.

Manziel partied in South Beach after his domestic violence case was sent to a grand jury. The former Browns quarterback followed that up a few weeks later by partying in L.A. after he was cut by the Browns.

According to La Canfora, teams won't be interested in Manziel until he makes "some major life changes and makes real strides towards sobriety."

If Rosenhaus can help him do those two things AND find a team that's willing to sign him, then he'll definitely be earning his commission.

Now one thing to note........Rosenhaus doesn't drink alcohol or smoke......and he HAS put some of his clients into rehab. But even if that's the route that he forces Johnny into, Johnny will only play the game for show .............. before his "affluenza" quickly kicks back in again.........that's just what Johnny "F" Football does/is............
 
Just another futile attempt to have someone "do IT for him."


Now one thing to note........Rosenhaus doesn't drink alcohol or smoke......and he HAS put some of his clients into rehab. But even if that's the route that he forces Johnny into, Johnny will only play the game for show .............. before his "affluenza" quickly kicks back in again.........that's just what Johnny "F" Football does/is............
You just had 2 5-Star QBs bail on A&M because of what they referred to as the Manziel atmosphere.
 
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He had plenty to make if he took his career choice seriously.

To quote in paraphrase fashion: "I've got plenty of time after my career to have fun."

I agree with you, but Johnny has enough $$$$ to party the rest of his life and tell the world to kiss his a** if he wants too. This is what I think bothers people. People want him to conform for $$$$ or fame etc... it's not gonna happen.

I'm just glad the Texans didn't draft him.
 
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