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The Johnny "Football" Manziel NFL thread

In Texas the victim cannot waive the charges off. The prosecutor can continue without the victim's acquiescence. In fact some will bring charges against the victim for false statements if they attempt to recant.


A fork comes to mind.

[BTW, wasn't Greg Hardy's GF a no show in a misdemeanor abuse case?]
 
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These recent statements by the head of the Dallas police domestic violence unit do not sound as though things are likely to fall in Manziel's favor.

Johnny Manziel could face domestic violence charges next week

Naomi Martin nmartin@dallasnews.com
Published: February 19, 2016 5:10 pm


Johnny Manziel and Colleen Crowley attended a Texas Rangers game in this AP file photo.

Johnny Manziel could soon face criminal charges as Dallas police complete their investigation into whether the former Texas A&M star hit, kidnapped and threatened to kill his ex-girlfriend.

“Hopefully by the end of next week we’ll be done with it,” Maj. Midge Boyle, who heads the domestic violence unit, told The Dallas Morning News Friday. She said investigators expect to determine by then whether they will charge Manziel, and if so, with what crime.

Boyle said the investigation has been aided by medical records voluntarily provided by Colleen Crowley, Manziel’s ex-girlfriend. Crowley has said that the Cleveland Browns quarterback slapped her left ear so hard her eardrum ruptured, making her lose her hearing.

Boyle said she has not personally reviewed the medical records.

Detectives are searching for a few more witnesses to complete their investigation and do their “due diligence,” Boyle told The News. They have already interviewed several witnesses, she said, including at least one from Hotel ZaZa in Uptown. That’s where Crowley told police Manziel began abusing her on Jan. 29 in a fight over another woman.

Crowley said Manziel then forced her into a car, hit her, dragged her by the hair and drove her to Fort Worth, saying at one point, “Shut up or I’ll kill us both.” She and Manziel, both 23, broke up in December after dating for two years and living together in Cleveland.

Boyle said detectives are trying to build their best case against Manziel before they ask him for his statement.

“I can’t imagine his attorneys would want him to,” Boyle said. “I don’t know. It depends on what kind of attorney it is and what else is going on. There might be a lot of back story to this.”

She said his attorney has called police to check on the investigation.

Manziel’s attorney, who is listed in court documents as Brad Beckworth, of Austin, did not return calls Friday for comment.


If Manziel is concerned about the investigation, he didn’t appear to show it last weekend at the Houston wedding of his former A&M teammate, Mike Evans. Manziel was a groomsman and “gave one of the best speeches” at the reception, Evans told TMZ.

In a video uploaded to Instagram by another ex-Aggie teammate, Christine✓ Michael, Manziel is seen smiling, holding a beverage and rapping along to the Drake song, “Back to Back.”

Why no immediate arrest?

Police often arrest domestic violence suspects immediately after responding to the victim’s 911 call because they want to prevent any further danger, Boyle said.

That didn’t happen in this case, she said, because Crowley first reported the incident to Fort Worth police, who searched for Manziel using a helicopter. Crowley didn’t provide her statement to Dallas police until a week later, on Feb. 5.

At that point, police didn’t believe Crowley was in immediate danger. By then, Crowley had already secured a protective order in Tarrant County barring Manziel from approaching her for two years; however Boyle said that offenders often ignore that “piece of paper.”

Police would rather get the investigation done right than fast, Boyle said, adding that Crowley isn’t rushing them or talking about feeling as if she’s still in danger. Manziel hasn’t contacted her, to Boyle’s knowledge.

“There’s nothing urgent about this right now,” Boyle said. “We just want to make sure that we investigate the case thoroughly so it gets prosecuted the right way, if it goes that far.”

Boyle added that Manziel isn’t receiving any special treatment from police.

“The only difference between this case and any other case is really that it’s in the media,” she said. “We’re not treating it any different than if it was, I don’t know, a teacher at a school. We’re just trying to make sure we’re fair to both parties.”

A judge has already indicated that he believes something happened between Crowley and Manziel. In approving Crowley’s protective order earlier this month, state District Judge Michael Sinha wrote that “the court finds there is reason to believe that family violence has occurred.”

The Cleveland Browns are expected to release Manziel in March. It’s unclear what his playing status will be then. The National Football League is investigating Crowley’s domestic violence allegations and can punish him regardless of the outcome of any criminal inquiry.
 
It's really sad that I fully expect to open this thread one day and read about Manziel being dead due to OD or being locked up.
 
Uh oh..........it looks like it's probably going to go to the Grand Jury.


Source: Dallas police have video surveillance of Manziel incident
3:15 PM ET
  • Pat McManamonESPN Staff Writer

Dallas police said Saturday they have obtained video surveillance as they continue the investigation into the domestic assault complaint against Johnny Manziel.

Police did not specify the nature of the video, but the footage is from the Hotel ZaZa in Dallas, which is where Colleen Crowley alleged the assault began, a source familiar with the investigation told ESPN.

The Dallas Police Department released a statement and also held a brief news conference Saturday afternoon to address the investigation.

"There has been no determination as to what charge, if any, will be filed against Mr. Manziel," Maj. Midge Boyle said.

Police said that they have interviewed Crowley and witnesses, but they have not spoken to Manziel.

According to the Dallas Morning News, police said the investigation could be concluded by the end of next week. WFAA in Dallas reported the case could go to a grand jury.

Crowley's affidavit seeking a protection order, which was granted, stated that after an argument in Manziel's room at the hotel, he led her down a back stairway to the valet.

Crowley stated in the affidavit that she told the valet she was "scared for my life," and the valet responded he didn't know what to do. She stated in the affidavit that Manziel threw her in the passenger seat of his car.

Dallas police have the video of the encounter with the valet along with other surveillance, according to the source.

Dallas police confirmed they have reviewed Crowley's medical records. She said in her complaint and in the affidavit that she had a ruptured eardrum. Police also said they hope to finish the case as soon as possible.
 
Tony Zarrella Verified account ‏@TonyZ19 Guy at the cigar shop has this. That didn't take long


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We’ve heard all about Johnny Manziel since the NFL regular season ended in early January, but we haven’t really heard from Johnny Manziel over that turbulent time. On Tuesday morning at about 6:48 a.m. EST, Manziel finally spoke via retweet of a 16-day-old Charlie Sheen tweet:

Charlie Sheen ‎@charliesheen
@JManziel2
it's time 2 refocus
all of your energy
on health & Football!
it's never 2 late
2 get a fresh start!
©
9:37 AM - 6 Feb 2016

It was Manziel’s first Twitter activity since Jan. 2.

Obviously, we’re not going to hazard a guess at what Manziel is trying to tell the world here. Sheen has had his own troubles keeping things on an even keel, so there’s that.
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Manz ale. you can't drink it with a straw. Straws are for snorting blow in the men's room.

Manz ale. Not enough alcohol for combustion but just right after a concussion.


Manz Ale. just like Jonny manziel it looks like an adult beverage but it's more like a Shirley temple.

Manz ale. It'll have to do when mommy and daddy lock up the liquor cabinet.

Manz ale, just the right beer for when you punch someone in the ear.

Manz ale. Available at HEB for your next DUI.

Manz ale. drink it fast because it fizzles out even faster.
 
Johnny Manziel domestic violence case sent to grand jury
6:42 PM ET
  • ESPN.com news services
DALLAS -- Dallas police said Thursday they have referred their domestic violence case against Johnny Manziel to a grand jury, which will consider whether to charge the troubled Cleveland Browns quarterback on allegations that he attacked his ex-girlfriend.

Police released a statement saying they have asked the Dallas County District Attorney's Office to present a misdemeanor domestic violence case to the local grand jury. Such a charge carries a maximum punishment of one year in jail and a $4,000 fine.

Manziel's attorney, Bradley Beckworth, didn't immediately return an email seeking comment Thursday. Manziel's agent and marketing agency have both dropped him, and the Browns have indicated they will release Manziel as early as March 9, when the league begins its new calendar year.

Looks like Johnny is going to get away with his actions with a potential slap on the wrists. In Texas, evidently a "felony" domestic violence case only occurs if a "serious bodily injury" ....one producing a significant injury such as a broken bone, disfigurement, loss of a limb, a serious head injury, or an injury that requires surgery and/or hospitalization......as opposed to plain "bodily injury".......one producing a less serious injury such as bruises and scrapes. Also evident, blowing one's ear drum out is not serious enough since it didn't require surgery.

One thing it does do if he gets convicted of this misdemeanor domestic violence claim is that the next such claim will carry third degree felony, which is punishable by 2 to 10 years in prison and a fine up to $10,000........................................Johnny might seriously consider becoming a tea totaler.

But sadly and more realistic for Johnny's approach will be............

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'The Johnny Manziel Combine': NFL Teams Determined Not to Get Fooled Again

By Mike Freeman , NFL National Lead Writer Feb 26, 2016

INDIANAPOLIS — The assessment was blunt. So, so damn blunt.

"This is the Johnny Manziel combine," the NFL team personnel exec said.

How so?

"The Browns weren't the only ones fooled by Manziel during the interview process here," he said, speaking of the combine two years ago. "We spent time with him, and we completely misjudged him.

"He charmed us."

Obviously, he charmed the Browns, too. And while some teams did see Manziel as a tremendous phony at the combine, others did not—and based on interviews at this year's combine, those teams deceived by Manziel have used the experience as a teachable moment.

No, there won't be any type of mass introspection from NFL teams. Some would still draft a character from Better Call Saul if he could throw a football with great accuracy. These front offices aren't trying to save rainforests; they are running businesses.

There will also still be teams that see the interview process as extremely valuable. So no, this isn't to say that teams will stop drafting bad guys—or stop interviewing them at the combine. That would be silly.

Yet, I do sense a change this year. Not a titanic one, for sure, but a change. And that change is to make sure to not get bamboozled by a sweet-talking conman.

One general manager I spoke with here made two things clear.

First, players are better than ever at mastering the interview process—making those interviews increasingly worthless. He was very specific in talking about Manziel.

"I've been amazed at how smooth and practiced the players have become in just a few years," he said. "It's different from even just five years ago."

He said in the past few years, it's been increasingly difficult to mine the truth from players about controversial aspects from their past. While some players tell all and are sincere—he gave Jameis Winston as an example—others are great at fooling teams.

There has always been an element of this, but the GM argues it's worse now than ever before.

Second, teams are trying to find a better way to interview players—have been for a while—but nothing they've tried so far has worked.

One of the problems with combine questions is the teams themselves. Some of the questions asked are just nonsensical and serve no purpose other than to agitate. This week, for instance:

The NFL continues to evolve—for the better, in many ways. The sport continues to push for harsher treatment of players who run afoul of the law or rules. In the past, acts of domestic violence were ignored by football. Not as much now. In the past, football didn't care if a player failed drug tests. Or tried to knock another player out with a cheap shot to the head. Now, football cares more than ever.

This continues to put pressure on teams to not be so casual when it comes to character. Teams in the past few years have tried to draft better when it comes to character, but they have been far from perfect.

To a handful of teams, Manziel represents a sort of weird defining line. Teams felt lied to by Manziel—rightly or wrongly.

I was told by sources from two different teams that members of the new Browns regime have been open in saying that Manziel was almost a model for what they don't want to do at the combine. No player was going to charm them. Not this time. Not this regime.

Coach Hue Jackson told reporters at the combine, speaking of Manziel and accusations he may have assaulted his girlfriend: "I want to make sure we all understand that that behavior will not be tolerated as we move forward, and that's all I want to say about it. Our organization is going to take a stand, and we're going to move on from those kind of situations as we move forward."

No matter how much teams attempt to use the combine interview process, there will always be players who fool teams—or teams that are so in love with a player, they allow themselves to be fooled. Manziel was one example. Randy Gregory was another.

NFL teams knew that Gregory had failed two drug tests while at Nebraska. He was asked repeatedly about those tests by NFL teams at the combine, according to two of those teams.

One front-office executive said Gregory told his team: "You will never see my name associated with that stuff again." That stuff being marijuana.

Gregory would go on to fail a combine drug test. He was recently suspended four games by the NFL after testing positive for marijuana three times, an NFL source confirmed. That means, counting the combine last year, Gregory has failed four drug tests in a year.

Gregory fooled the Cowboys, and the Cowboys fooled the Cowboys.

Just like Manziel fooled the Browns, and the Browns fooled the Browns.

They're trying not to let it happen again.
 
Is Johnny Manziel a sociopath or psychopath? Perhaps both? I've seen him called a charming gentleman to an alcoholic criminal and wanna be murderer that is suicidal. So which is he? Would the real Johnny Football please stand up? Jeez. This guy is becoming a future bad movie the way it's going. It's time to put this guy behind bars for a year or two just to make sure he's not a threat to society (or himself). Forget about playing in the NFL again.
 
Is Johnny Manziel a sociopath or psychopath? Perhaps both? I've seen him called a charming gentleman to an alcoholic criminal and wanna be murderer that is suicidal. So which is he? Would the real Johnny Football please stand up? Jeez. This guy is becoming a future bad movie the way it's going. It's time to put this guy behind bars for a year or two just to make sure he's not a threat to society (or himself). Forget about playing in the NFL again.

He's a spoiled kid in a mans body, mentally he's still 16 who's been given a free pass at life for the most part. When/if it ever comes time for him to pay the piper; I imagine it will be quite the shock. Unless mommy and daddy bail his ass out again - which is probably what will happen.
 
He's a spoiled kid in a mans body, mentally he's still 16 who's been given a free pass at life for the most part. When/if it ever comes time for him to pay the piper; I imagine it will be quite the shock. Unless mommy and daddy bail his ass out again - which is probably what will happen.

First off - don't want him for the Texans.

What he needs is about a 2 second encounter with you. Fist to nose to ground ... realize you aren't the world's little special snowflake
 
Manziel knows he is definitely being released by Cleveland............there goes the argument, that his alcoholic escapades were to force Cleveland to let him leave.


Johnny Manziel Boozin' at Nightclub Hours After Case Sent To Grand Jur

2/28/2016 2:46 PM PST BY TMZ STAFF
EXCLUSIVE

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HE'S AT IT AGAINTMZsports.com


Johnny Manziel spent his Thursday night pounding champagne in a hot Miami nightclub -- a bizarre way to spend the night hours after officials announced his domestic violence case was going to a grand jury.

TMZ Sports spoke with multiple witnesses (including a staff member) -- and obtained video -- showing the embattled QB drinking straight from what appears to be a champagne bottle at Story nightclub in Miami.

Manziel tried to go semi-incognito in a big hat and sunglasses ... but it's obvious it's Manziel.

Hours before Johnny hit the club, the Dallas PD announced the investigation into allegations Manziel struck Colleen Crowley on Jan. 30th was sent to the grand jury, which will decide if charges should be filed against him.

There's a lot at stake for Johnny ... not just his NFL career, but jail time is on the table if he's ultimately convicted of misdemeanor assault/domestic violence.

Maybe the move to party is to show people he's not worried -- but it doesn't seem like the best PR move to us, considering his past ... a past that includes a stint in a treatment center (though he never said what the treatment was for).

We reached out to Manziel for comment -- so far, no word back.
 
First off - don't want him for the Texans.

What he needs is about a 2 second encounter with you. Fist to nose to ground ... realize you aren't the world's little special snowflake

Oh hell no on the Texans getting him, I'd probably boycott the season if that happened. His type of personality will always think he's some sort of special snowflake. Honestly I'd rather put a boot in his fathers ass for raising such a turd.
 
Donte Whitner, Browsn strong safety, commented.:

The strong safety said he was watching TV when he heard Manziel, who went to rehab last year, was partying just hours after his case had been sent to a grand jury.

In an interview at the Cleveland Auto Show, the three-time Pro Bowler said he watched with distress, per Nate Ulrich of the Akron Beacon Journal.

"There was really a lot of empathy there because if you get everything that you care about and worked so hard for all of your life stripped away from you, all the allegations that's going on, there's no way that you can be out partying and doing whatever," he said. "So there might be a serious problem there."
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It just keeps coming.............

Browns QB Johnny Manziel Making It Rain At The Strip Club (Video)

by: Black Adam Schefter On Tuesday, March 1, 2016



Soon to be released QB of the Cleveland Browns, Johnny Manziel is living it up during his last few days as a member of the team. If you think Johnny cares at this point, you’re sadly mistaken.

Manziel was spotted drinking at Story nightclub in Miami on Sunday, now spotted at King of Diamonds making it rain on some strippers on Monday. link includes the VIDEO
 
Oh hell no on the Texans getting him, I'd probably boycott the season if that happened. His type of personality will always think he's some sort of special snowflake. Honestly I'd rather put a boot in his fathers ass for raising such a turd.

Dude would not make one day at Benning.

I have to laugh though. Had a drill sergeant with a serious lisp. 'Oh heth no, do diamonths beothths.' 'On your kevthlar.'
 
Dude would not make one day at Benning.

I have to laugh though. Had a drill sergeant with a serious lisp. 'Oh heth no, do diamonths beothths.' 'On your kevthlar.'

I would doubt he has he mental fortitude to make it past 30th AG.

I think I picked up the Oh Hell No from the military, had an NCO who said it all the time.
 
It is apparent that Bianca Ghezzi, who says that it was her job while JFF was in Miami to "take car of him" is just as narcissistic, and addicted to posing for (her own) cameras. Enjoy the link to her photos and videos. If you're interested, I am sure you can request quotes by the weekend, the night or the hour via her Instagram account.
 
Why Bringing Manziel's Case To A Grand Jury Is Out Of The Ordinary
  • By Adrienne Lawrence | Mar 4, 201 espnW.com
Since he entered the NFL, much about Johnny Manziel has been complicated -- both on and off the field.

Most recently, the 23-year-old quarterback was accused of assaulting his former girlfriend at a Dallas hotel in January. After weeks of investigation, the Dallas police department delivered the matter to the local prosecutor's office, packaging it as a Class A misdemeanor. Dallas police's recommendation? Send it to a grand jury.

A grand jury sounds official, a place where something meaningful would be done. But in actuality, presenting Manziel's case to a grand jury would be unnecessary, and any potential benefit would be unclear.

Here's the skinny on grand juries: They're special largely because they decide whether to bring charges against someone. A grand jury is composed of citizens who review documents, hear testimony and decide on charges. If the required number of jurors votes "yes," the prosecutor can file charges against the accused, and the court case can begin.

In Texas, only felony offenses must be reviewed by a grand jury. Lesser offenses, such as misdemeanors, don't -- the prosecutor can simply skip the grand jury and file misdemeanor charges in court. The process is pretty smooth and simple.

So why would the Dallas police urge the prosecutor to send Manziel's misdemeanor offense to a grand jury if Texas grand juries only have to review felonies?

Your answer's as good as mine.

Grand jury review isn't necessary in Manziel's case. Even the Dallas District Attorney's Office indicates that bringing a misdemeanor case before a grand jury wouldn't be the norm.

The standard procedures outlined on the D.A.'s website -- and the practices explicitly laid out in its domestic violence pamphlet -- indicate that the prosecutor should bypass the grand jury and file the misdemeanor charge against the Browns' quarterback. Bringing the grand jury into the mix also adds further delay to a case that's already been suspected of being unnecessarily delayed. Plus, if nine of 12 grand jurors don't vote to charge Manziel, the prosecutor likely will close the case without the public ever knowing what happened.

That's the tricky thing about grand juries: They operate in secret. Any testimony about Colleen Crowley's alleged injuries wouldn't be reviewed on appeal, the prosecutor's presentation of the facts from that Dallas night wouldn't be called into question, and so on. The integrity of the grand jury case can't be held in check like it can in a public trial. Society simply must trust that, regardless of the outcome, the prosecutor who went to the grand jury did her best to present and explore the evidence.

This isn't to say that there's no benefit to grand jury review. It can be used as an investigative arm to gather information not otherwise available. However, whether further investigation into Manziel's case is needed is unclear. The Dallas police said they have hotel video capturing portions of that night, as well as Crowley's medical records, her sworn statements about the events and her statements that a judge reviewed before granting her a protective order to keep Manziel away.

The Dallas prosecutor's decision to send Manziel's case to the grand jury is discretionary. And this is a high-profile case involving a controversial player in the NFL who happens to be third-generation Texas elite.

We can only trust that her decision is for the better of the people and in furtherance of justice, even if the decision makes the matter more complicated.

Adrienne Lawrence has a B.S. and M.A. in criminal justice, as well as a J.D. from The George Washington University Law School. She completed the M.A. specialized journalism program at USC Annenberg in 2015 focusing on multimedia sports journalism. She practiced law from 2008 to 2015 before joining ESPN in August 2015.
 
Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 23 minutes ago
Browns officially have waived QB Johnny Manziel.

Three unidentified teams have major interest in signing him.

Johnny Manziel was at it again Thursday night ... partying for the 4th night in a row -- this time, hitting the legendary Hyde Lounge on the Sunset Strip.


This kid is fortunate three teams have interest in signing him.
Only because of his potential. Unbelievable. I hope he gets it soon.

I wonder if the Denver Broncos are one of those three teams?
He did go to Texas A&M (Kubiak drools over 'dem Aggies).

And truth be told, his skill set, if he can get his head on straight. Suits Kubiak's WC system quite well. He's very athletic and can throw darts on the run. He'd be dangerous rolling out and perfecting the bootlegs. His athleticism is elite, again, assuming his psycho and party days are behind him.
 
Well, the Browns FINALLY ANNOUNCED the Manziel has been waived.

Man, I loved Tony G back in the day. Best tight end I had ever seen pre Gronk. That's what the Houston Texsns need, a freakin' awesome tight end!

I'd settle for an average tight end. LOL.
We need much better production from that position.

I wonder if J.J. Watt's little brother, who Bill O'Brien and J.J. Watt were both at Wisconsin's pro day watching him two days ago, could transition from a fullback to tight end? If his hands are anything like Watt he could become an ideal pass-catching, blocking tight end that we need. He has big hands and made a lot of catches at his pro day.

Derek Watt could be a nice mid-to-late round gamble for us.
He's projected to go in the 5th or 6th round, according to Mel Kiper Jr.
 
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Aaron Wilson · @AaronWilson_NFL
11th Mar 2016 from TwitLonger



Johnny Manziel statement:
'I'd like to thank the Browns for the opportunity they gave me - nearly two years ago, we all hoped that we were building what could be a championship team for Cleveland. I will always remember the support I received from the organization, my teammates and especially the fans.'


Wonder who wrote the original script...Spielberg?:spit:
 
Wonder who wrote the original script...Spielberg?:spit:

I like what somebody on BRB wrote:

Johnny's PR: You've been cut.

JFF: F*** them!

Johnny's PR: We need to make a statement.

JFF: F*** All of them! Especially that weasel Pettine!

Johnny's PR: OK, then. A generic thank you statement to everyone.
 
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Man, I loved Tony G back in the day. Best tight end I had ever seen pre Gronk. That's what the Houston Texsns need, a freakin' awesome tight end!

I'd settle for an average tight end. LOL.
We need much better production from that position.

I wonder if J.J. Watt's little brother, who Bill O'Brien and J.J. Watt were both at Wisconsin's pro day watching him two days ago, could transition from a fullback to tight end? If his hands are anything like Watt he could become an ideal pass-catching, blocking tight end that we need. He has big hands and made a lot of catches at his pro day.

Derek Watt could be a nice mid-to-late round gamble for us.
He's projected to go in the 5th or 6th round, according to Mel Kiper Jr.
He's a class act all around. Great answers to all the questions. He's right on the money.
 

Talking head on NFLN, former FB with the Seahawks, Patriots and Saints. Pretty knowledgeable guy who has no patience with younger players he feels doesn't respect the NFL and what it means to have the opportunity to play
 
Talking head on NFLN, former FB with the Seahawks, Patriots and Saints. Pretty knowledgeable guy who has no patience with younger players he feels doesn't respect the NFL and what it means to have the opportunity to play
I was joking.

But yes, Manziel's a tool. I agree with Tony Gonzalez. I see him getting one more shot with a team. He either lights it up and continues to party (unlikely), gets his life straight and plays decent football, or he'll end up dead of a drunk driving accident or drug overdose in a few years.

You can be like Gronk, but only if you actually do something on the field. Thus far, Manziel isn't anywhere close to Gronk's level.
 
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What I don't understand is why so many people are still so obsessed with hanging out and partying with Manziel. I mean he's kind of like a friend of mine from back in high school. Everybody loved him then but as we all went off and actually went to college, got jobs, and made something of our lives, he was still living the same life he lived in high school. Sure, I still party, but it isn't cool anymore to hang out with people that still think they are kids with no responsibilities. Yet somehow, Manziel continues to be treated like an actual somebody.
 
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