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Brock Osweiler agrees to 4 year 72 million

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sandman said:
Bortles had two 1,000+ yard receivers and a RB that averaged 4.1 YPC. Not sure how that Broncos O-line is going to lower his league-leading sacks by much. Not sure how that Broncos defense would raise his 58% completion rate or lower his league-leading INT's and Pick-6's. At some point, you're going to have to let Bortles own bad habits and decision making.
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Sounds to me like you're not sure.....hint: playing from behind vs playing with a lead.
 
speedfreek said:
Then Rick Smith needs to be fired. Given the myriad of needs this team has, to stand pat,
would have shown incompetence.

I can't, for the life of me, find any talking head that says we've become a contender
by dropping all of this money on Os.

Actually, I keep hearing comparisons to the Hoyer signing. PFF has this guy right next
to Hoyer in their QB ratings..

In fact, they are saying that Os couldn't wait to leave Denver. If that's the case, then we should
have been able to pry him away for less than what the Broncos were offering -- NOT more..
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Here's one.

The Osweiler signing makes more sense than the Schaub signing did. It makes more sense than the Brady Baby acquisitions. It makes infinitely more sense than drafting Christian Hackenberg and trying to recapture the magic of the 2013 Penn State Nittany Lions. It's the best move the Texans could have made, and it pushed them forward among AFC contenders at the same time that it pushed the Broncos back.
 
xtruroyaltyx said:
I read something a while back and posted about it before we even got Brock, but kubiak was telling the team that Peyton was still the starting qb the entire time he was out.

So while Brock may have gotten the hook in his last game, Kubiak had always planned to go back to Peyton. That decision wasn't about him not liking Brock.

And besides, the Broncos didn't cast him off. They wanted him back.​
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Brock wasn't upset about Manning coming back. Manning was cleared but Kubiak still named Osweiler the starter for week 17. Then the team plays like crap with both of Brock's INT's being tipped passes by his receivers and his fumble being because their RT whiffed a blitz pickup. Sanders and Anderson also had fumbles.

Then Brock gets the hook in the 3rd quarter despite playing a solid game overall and Manning comes in and pretty much hands off the whole game and the Broncos come back and win. Brock gets thrown under the bus by the media and nobody defends him and Manning is named the starter after the game.

That's what ticked him off.
 
The Texans had to do something and they did. They would make the same gamble with a rookie and would mortgage the draft to have to do it.
In fact, it could be argued that we are the team that could actually make this gamble when you consider that Tom Savage is most likely going to get a chance to see what he can do. Now, the Texans have afforded themselves the oppoturtunity to draft a pretty good QB in the late rounds. Guys like Jacoby Brissett, Jacob Coker, Vernon Adams Jr, possibly Kevin Hogan....those guys could be there in rds 4th and possibly later and you can assume that one of those guys, if drafted, won't be 3rd string for very long considering how well Osweiler does here.

The other thing people aren't considering is that OB and Rick Smith got a full week to look at Osweiler in practice when we played Denver in preseason, two preseason games, and 7 regular season games, plus this was a guy they were looking at in OB's first year here coming out of the draft. There has been plenty of tape for them to view.

I'm not even going to think about the trade opportunities this could bring if we wanna hang Hoyer or Savage out there as trade bait.
 
Texian said:
Two are Top 10 potential draft picks, one is a bottom 2nd RD pick. The Texans could draft a late 2nd RD QB without giving up $72MM or a bunch of high draft picks.
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Two are Top 10 potential draft picks: To get them, we'd have to give away a ton of other draft picks. And frankly, neither guy is someone Bill Parcells would draft.

OTOH...

One is a bottom 2nd Round Pick: but is now experienced and has proven he can start and win in this league. With him, we can use the ton of draft picks we saved to make the team around him better, and because of the way the contract is structured, we can easily divest ourselves of him halfway through his contract, or if he pays off, we can easily extend him.
 
The Pencil Neck said:
Two are Top 10 potential draft picks: To get them, we'd have to give away a ton of other draft picks. And frankly, neither guy is someone Bill Parcells would draft.

OTOH...

One is a bottom 2nd Round Pick: but is now experienced and has proven he can start and win in this league. NOT ACCORDING TO BILL PARCELS With him, we can use the ton of draft picks we saved to make the team around him better, and because of the way the contract is structured, we can easily divest ourselves of him halfway through his contract, or if he pays off, we can easily extend him.
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So when did you speak to Bill?
 
Texian said:
So when did you speak to Bill?
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Bill Parcells has 4 rules for drafting a QB.

1) They have to be 3 year starters.
2) They have to have started 30 games.
3) They have to have won 23 games.
4) They have to have graduated.

Since neither Goff nor Wentz fits those criteria, to the best of my knowledge, then Bill Parcells would not draft them without violating his own rules for drafting a QB.
 
Texian said:
Sounds to me like you're not sure.....hint: playing from behind vs playing with a lead.
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Sounds like Bortles isn't good enough to make the rest of the team better.

You might want to go look at his splits. His worst categories are:

1st 10 attempts in a game (compared to 11-20, 21-30, 31-40)
1st half (compared to second half)
1st downs (compared to 2nd, 3rd and 4th downs)

In other words, he is like Hoyer - starts slow, puts his team in a hole, then puts up gaudy stats when it doesn't matter.
 
I don't think you can say the Texans overpaid for him yet. I mean, you can say it but until you see what you got for your money you don't know anything. You know who overpaid? The Texans overpaid when they gave Brian Hoyer ANYTHING. That's a situation where you can say they overpaid because they got nothing in return for it and they damn well should have known how that was going to go. This is speculative. It's optimistic. It's a team paying for what they think will be the answer and the player they're taking that shot on has shown enough positive for this to still be a reasonable gamble. They're all gambles though.
 
If we could sign Brock Osweiler away from the Broncos and then trade them Hoyer... for... anything... a cheeseburger and fries... that would just be beyond awesome.

Unless the Broncos repeat with Hoyer as their QB, at which point I will give up on this thing called football entirely. For at least a year, or a few weeks after the SB, or something.
 
I'm not sure overpay is the correct term to be used for this acquisition. The Texans made a calculated move to offer Brock just enough money to ensure they could get him. Denver would have had to make decisions that they weren't prepared to do such as drop players now or in the near future when guys like Miller's contract is up. Time will tell if this was a great, good or poor choice but it was 1 of 2 choices they had, overpay in draft choices to move up or do this. JJ's domination period as with all players is finite and the quicker they get the offense moving in the right direction the better.

They can also use the draft to get an OLineman, ILB and a TE and pick the best available guy with the first pick that falls to them. A win win proposition but Brock O could just as easily bust out also. It'll be fun to watch this fall.
 
The guys on SriusXM are wondering WTF was Elway thinking with some of the moves he's made this offseason and the like the Os deal the Texans made.
 
So the Texans go out an make an aggressive move in FA to get a qb outside of the draft. The fan-base pretty much agreed as a whole that they needed a qb more than anything else this off-season. There were many fans at home watching on tv and at the playoff game who were were chanting for Weeden to replace Hoyer, again WEEDEN. So the Texans go get probably the best QB available via free agency, after having made salary cap room. They save themselves from having to give up picks in the draft and/or reaching for a qb, because where they were situated in the draft none of the top qb prospects would likely be available to them. They now can focus on filling in other needs like OL, LB, TE, WR or whatever. Yet people still cry about it. Brees, Rodgers, Rivers, and no other top qb FA's were available and if they were their contracts would make Osweillers look paltry in comparison.

One other thing, John Elway does not have the market cornered on being some sort of QB analysis genius god like he is being made out to be. Some of the media and Texans fans act like since Elway didn't pursue Osweiller more then he did it means that Os must suck; because somehow Elway can tell the future about all potential HoF quarterbacks. More then likely it came down to the Broncos can't afford Osweiller at what the Texans offered him. There is no way that the Broncos wanted to leave their team in a situation, coming off a Super Bowl win, where Ryan Fitzpatrick is their best answer. However since they probably had little room to maneuver because of contracts to a couple of superstars (one on his way out) they made the best offer they could, and it wasn't enough. Between that and Osweiller maybe having a case of the ass at Kubiak and Elway for benching him, the Broncos probably had very little wiggle room in negotiations.

Do I think Osweiller is a guaranteed superstar qb, or even an average one - no, but neither are any of the qb's coming out in the draft. It seems like some of y'all are just mad because now the Texans aren't going to try to trade away half of this years draft and part of next years to go for a college qb that some of y'all have a boner for. Maybe there were a few on here who worked out trades on Madden 16 for their guy, and thought that somehow that is actually how it goes down in the real world. You can trade your 3rd string rb, punter, and a can of cat food for the number 1 pick in Madden - not in the NFL though.

The Texans in my opinion avoided giving up draft picks, reaching in the draft, having Hoyer as a starter, having Weeden as a starter, pinning hopes on Savage, and going into training camp with uncertainty at the qb position. All positives. They gained a qb who can actually get it down the field, not the Schaub/Hoyer lob a ball that saw our receiver get tackled when he should have been hit in stride and gone for a td or long gain. I don't expect an explosion of sunshine and roses because we signed Osweiller, he definitely still has to prove himself.

Considering where the Texans were prior to signing Osweiller, and where they are now. There is no way they aren't better off.
 
The Pencil Neck said:
If we could sign Brock Osweiler away from the Broncos and then trade them Hoyer... for... anything... a cheeseburger and fries... that would just be beyond awesome.

Unless the Broncos repeat with Hoyer as their QB, at which point I will give up on this thing called football entirely. For at least a year, or a few weeks after the SB, or something.
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I will say this - if Fitzy, Keenum and Schaub were all traded for late round draft picks, I don't see why Hoyer can't be.

It will also be interesting to see how Denver emerges from this. Essentially, their options are worse than the Texans were pre-Osweiler signing, as they have a 7th round pick coming off his first season in which his only RS action was a last-snap kneel down as the only QB on their roster. They can trade for Kaepernick (or Hoyer), but I'm willing to guess that had the Texans done that instead of signing Brock, the reaction bye and large would not be positive. Now that doesn't mean the reaction would be the same for Denver (a Superb Owl should generate some brownie points after all), but I just don't see Kaep (or Hoyer) as the answer to anyone's QB problems. Fitzy as a FA kind of fits that mold too (although he may be a better option than the two they could trade for). Finally, their best option is likely either the best QB available at the #31 pick - or trade up some if necessary, but realistically, that's likely to be a season or two away before they start seeing the benefit of that.
 
DocBar said:
The guys on SriusXM are wondering WTF was Elway thinking with some of the moves he's made this offseason and the like the Os deal the Texans made.
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Ehh. Elway personally constructed the SB team. These guys probably thought their Broncos were going to replace the Pats as the new dynasty and never really saw it realistically for what it was....the Broncos going all in to win now. Now their cap is all tied up in 'win now' pieces and they are losing young players left and right to FA because they just can't afford to keep them.

Elway didn't mismanage the offseason so much as those guys mismanaged their expectations for what was in the future for the Broncos. They had a window to win a title and they just managed to win one right before that window shut.
 
WolverineFan said:
Brock wasn't upset about Manning coming back. Manning was cleared but Kubiak still named Osweiler the starter for week 17. Then the team plays like crap with both of Brock's INT's being tipped passes by his receivers and his fumble being because their RT whiffed a blitz pickup. Sanders and Anderson also had fumbles.

Then Brock gets the hook in the 3rd quarter despite playing a solid game overall and Manning comes in and pretty much hands off the whole game and the Broncos come back and win. Brock gets thrown under the bus by the media and nobody defends him and Manning is named the starter after the game.

That's what ticked him off.
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Yeah, my point was though that from the moment Manning went out Kubiak said he was still the starter and that he was going to let him heal as much as possible before putting him back in.

Maybe at some point that decision became a little fuzzy after Brock had played so well, however Kubiak always said he was going back to Manning. As a matter of fact, some of the players said that is what helped keep the QB situation from becoming a distraction.
 
xtruroyaltyx said:
Yeah, my point was though that from the moment Manning went out Kubiak said he was still the starter and that he was going to let him heal as much as possible before putting him back in.

Maybe at some point that decision became a little fuzzy after Brock had played so well, however Kubiak always said he was going back to Manning. As a matter of fact, some of the players said that is what helped keep the QB situation from becoming a distraction.
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Absolutely and Kubiak is the guy who kept trying to go back to Matt Schaub even after the entire right side of Schaub's body turned to salt. He is loyal to a fault where a veteran QB is concerned. That he would return to Peyton Manning was a foregone conclusion.
 
Supdee said:
I dont know how I feel about Osweiler at all. 7 starts still isnt enough to warrant such a huge contract like the one Houston gave him.
He definitely may be an upgrade over Brian Hoyer.
With that contract, does Houston even give Savage a shot? you are not paying 17 a year to see that man on the bench.
If Osweiler doesnt work out can we finally give the chop on Smith?
I still believe trading up for Goff or Wentz was the better option.
The problem with this organization is that they do not have the BALLS to get talent. I mean it does take Balls to give Osweiler such a contract but I think potential wise and the way this AFC South division is going, drafting a young GOOD QB would be smart.
Colts have Luck
Jags have Bortles
Titans have Mariota
and then theres us...With Brock Osweiler
I also am aware that Osweiler is 24...but I think actually drafting the guy and grooming him is better.
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I don't know what to think about Osweiler either. Just looking at him, I feel like he's got the tools to be a franchise QB. & only 7 starts is a plus to me. We get in on the process before there's any irreversible damage set in.

Luck & Mariota... yeah those guys look like they're going to be special. Bortles?? Sorry, I'm still not buying the Bortles hype. He's not taller than Osweiler. He doesn't have a stronger arm. He wasn't a better college QB. He doesn't appear to process information at an above average rate. Had Jacksonville not took him where they did, he'd probably be in Cleveland wondering what the hell went wrong. There's nothing special about Bortles. Remember before the draft, everyone saying the only reason he's even being talked about was because of his size. The 2nd & 3rd QBs taken in that draft was Midget Manziel & Bridgewater.

Still, I think our coaches vs their coaches kinda even out whatever QB deficiencies we have.

Going after Osweiler just tells me they didn't fall in love enough with anyone in this draft to make that bold move. & I'm fine with that. They felt good enough about Osweiler to make this move. & I think that's more important than taking a QB in the draft that you don't believe in.

But that's just me.
 
xtruroyaltyx said:
I read something a while back and posted about it before we even got Brock, but kubiak was telling the team that Peyton was still the starting qb the entire time he was out.

So while Brock may have gotten the hook in his last game, Kubiak had always planned to go back to Peyton. That decision wasn't about him not liking Brock.

And besides, the Broncos didn't cast him off. They wanted him back.​
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Yep. I'm obviously a Texans fan, but I'm also an NFL fan. I watch/listen to way too much pro football, especially during the season.

What you are saying is spot on. It was never Brock's job to lose. It was ALWAYS billed as Manning's job to return to when they thought his health could handle it. Manning's status was a daily/weekly update on NFLN and always being asked of Kubiak at every press conference. Kubiak/Elway would rather have gone down with a HoF Manning under center than forever be second guessed about why they did not start him. I do not think the Manning situation reflects on Brock at all other than the very positive attitude he always kept about it and the way he prepared and played those 7 games.

And I have NO doubt that Denver wanted to keep him. They drafted and groomed the guy for four years. He was their long term plan, but salary cap limitations prevailed and it appeared they overestimated the good vibes of a so-called "hometown discount".

I think there is a lot at play, but I would not be surprised if Brock also liked the scheme they run here over Kubiak's bootleg heavy WCO. O'Brien's offense is all about the QB being a field general. With the right QB, it can be vertical and really open up the field. It gives the QB a lot more tools and ability to make decisions at the line. Sage Rosenfel talked positive about Kubiak's system, but he also said that it is not very complicated and really gives the QB a limited set of decisions at the line. From what I've read about the NE/O'Brien scheme, the system is much more complex and really demands a lot from the QB, but also gives him much more freedom at the LOS. I would not be surprised if this played a part in Brock's decision, as well.

And let's not act like the Texans do not have some attractions when you've got one of the top WRs in the game and THE best defensive player in the game. This is not some Browns team just offering money. This is a team that is literally a QB away from being a contender and a city that has never even seen a team in the Super Bowl. You become a LEGEND if you are a QB that takes a Houston team to the Super Bowl. This city would name streets after that QB and you'd see lots of kids named "Brock" 9 months afterwards.
 
Supdee said:
I guess we will just have to love and back Osweiler. I am sick of losing man. I just want a QB that can lead us to the promise land.
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I think Brock Osweiler will become an elite quarterback and top five quarterback in the game sooner rather than later. This signing is going to look amazing for the Houston Texans in the long run. The Broncos will rue the day they allowed this young talent to get away.
 
He was the guy we wanted," McNair said. "Rick said he was going to get him, and he did. I've got to give him a lot of credit. He did a heck of a job."
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I don't know how people can read this comment and not love this signing. This isn't the same as signing Fitzpatrick, Hoyer or Mallett when the top free agent QB's were already off the board. This is realizing QB is a priority, seeing Osweiler as the #1 guy available and getting him.
 
Hervoyel said:
I don't think you can say the Texans overpaid for him yet. I mean, you can say it but until you see what you got for your money you don't know anything. You know who overpaid? The Texans overpaid when they gave Brian Hoyer ANYTHING. That's a situation where you can say they overpaid because they got nothing in return for it and they damn well should have known how that was going to go. This is speculative. It's optimistic. It's a team paying for what they think will be the answer and the player they're taking that shot on has shown enough positive for this to still be a reasonable gamble. They're all gambles though.
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What I like is Smith and BOB finally made their choice of who is going to lead this team for the forseeable future. All it took was McNair to make it happen. I see Osweiler as a guy who has the ability to be a young Big Ben. He throws a good ball and is tough to tackle. He needs to improve on reading defenses, so did Ben his 1st few yrs in the NFL. I have hope because this is BOB's supposed specialty.

Of course Osweiler could turn into Mallett (An inaccurate headcase) or something like Jeff George. (Headcase but talented enough to be the QB of your team for 10 yrs.)

With Osweiler's work ethic McNair/BOB/Smith are betting on the Ben version. As a fan I'm just glad they of off of the pot and saved me the time of having to watch more yrs of he Fitz/Hoyer's of the world.
 
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steelbtexan said:
What I like is Smith and BOB finally made their choice of who is going to lead this team for the forseeable future. All it took was McNair to make it happen. I see Osweiler as a guy who has the ability to be a young Big Ben. He throws a good ball and is tough to tackle. He needs to improve on reading defenses, so did Ben his 1st few yrs in the NFL. I have hope because this is BOB's supposed specialty.

Of course Osweiler could turn into Mallett (An inaccurate headcase) or something like Jeff George. (Headcase but talented enough to be the QB of your team for 10 yrs.)

With Osweiler's work ethic McNair/BOB/Smith are betting on the Ben version. As a fan I'm just glad they ot off of the pot and saved me the time of having to watch more yrs of he Fitz/Hoyer's of the world.
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I haven't seen anything at all characterizing Os as anything but professional. No attitude problems, alarm clock or off field issues.
 
This thread will go on for years. Either you like it,love it,hate it,or wait and see. I thought they should've drafted anyone but clowney. The bed is made, so they know they need a young qb with upside now! They got him and now we will see. I think they did right, but what do I know?
 
steelbtexan said:
What I like is Smith and BOB finally made their choice of who is going to lead this team for the forseeable future. All it took was McNair to make it happen. I see Osweiler as a guy who has the ability to be a young Big Ben. He throws a good ball and is tough to tackle. He needs to improve on reading defenses, so did Ben his 1st few yrs in the NFL. I have hope because this is BOB's supposed specialty.

Of course Osweiler could turn into Mallett (An inaccurate headcase) or something like Jeff George. (Headcase but talented enough to be the QB of your team for 10 yrs.)

With Osweiler's work ethic McNair/BOB/Smith are betting on the Ben version. As a fan I'm just glad they ot off of the pot and saved me the time of having to watch more yrs of he Fitz/Hoyer's of the world.
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Well said and they got Miller.
 
Os is the biggest get in FA available.

You don't often get near prime QB in FA.

Sure he is not a well proven product but you just don't get those in FA.

I really hope, that day one of camp we have a "Os is our future. He is our starter. He is the guy who leads this team to the Super Bowl" and not "It's a competition, no one has earned there place" b.s

Our team needs a leader they can get behind and you don't achieve that with the competition crap.
 
WolverineFan said:
Broncos fans are salty as hell at Brock for leaving. I have a buddy who lives outside Denver and he said he can't remember the fan base turning on a guy like this before. Even Rahim Moore didn't catch half this much flak after his playoff fiasco.

The fact that they are this upset about it only reinforces my feeling that this was a very good decision. Yes we overpaid, but if Brock was "just a backup" or "overrated" then there would be no reason for them to be so butt hurt about him leaving.
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I don't think you can base the validity of this trade on fan opinions much less Broncos fans. Obviously it was a good move for us b/c we were in such dire need, but the fact that they're upset shouldn't mean a thing. Most of the fans that are upset with him are upset mostly b/c they know for sure now that any chance they had to repeat is out the window with his departure. That still doesn't at all mean that he isn't overrated or just a back up. Only his play going forward is gonna tell us & them that.
 
Mr teX said:
I don't think you can base the validity of this trade on fan opinions much less Broncos fans. Obviously it was a good move for us b/c we were in such dire need, but the fact that they're upset shouldn't mean a thing. Most of the fans that are upset with him are upset mostly b/c they know for sure now that any chance they had to repeat is out the window with his departure. That still doesn't at all mean that he isn't overrated or just a back up. Only his play going forward is gonna tell us & them that.
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What? Are you saying Kaep cant win a SB under Kubiak?
 
Gary Kubiak wanted to sign Case Keenum just so the Broncos could have another QB on their current roster (as the only one they have has taken one live snap in a game), but the Rams put a first-round tender on him. It would cost the Broncos the 31st pick in round one if they signed him.

Seems pricey for what, I would assume, is just a backup quality quarterback. Although Keenum has started his fair share of games in spot starts over the years. He won a few games for us a couple seasons ago late in the year.

Broncos may sign RG3 pretty soon from what I hear...
I feel bad they couldn't land Case Keenum. Kubiak loves him.

The Broncos also looked at Y.J. Yates but he's not healthy enough right now. It's remarkable the defending Super Bowl champs are in a worse QB situation than we are. They're even looking at some of our old quarterbacks, Ryan Fitzpatrick included.

Digging through our old garbage. Yikes. Too many mediocre QBs there.
 
infantrycak said:
I agree with McNair 100% - if you were serious about a QB this offseason there were 3 guys: Wentz, Goff and Oz. One cost a lot of money. Two cost lots of picks.
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Exactly.

Additionally, the fact that the only draftees McNair was willing to settle for were Goff and Wentz goes a long way to repair the FO credibility hit of two seasons of 3rd rate QB carousel.

Whether or not the Osweiler gamble pays off, there's a sense of relief that the team is making the right gambles.
 
Bulls on Parade said:
Gary Kubiak wanted to sign Case Keenum just so the Broncos could have another QB on their current roster (as the only one they have has taken one live snap in a game), but the Rams put a first-round tender on him. It would cost the Broncos the 31st pick in round one if they signed him.
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Do you have any reports or is this just surmise?

Seems pricey for what, I would assume, is just a backup quality quarterback. Although Keenum has started his fair share of games in spot starts over the years. He won a few games for us a couple seasons ago late in the year.
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So far all indications are Keenum is their starter. Fisher is the kind of HC who would make that call.

Broncos may sign RG3 pretty soon from what I hear...
I feel bad they couldn't land Case Keenum. Kubiak loves him.
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Actually indications are the Broncos are trying to trade for Kaep. RGIII would already be their QB if he was their 1st alt to Oz.

And I'm not sure where you get Keenum and Kubiak are simpatico - Kubiak kept benching Keenum.

The Broncos also looked at Y.J. Yates but he's not healthy enough right now.
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Where was this reported?
 
Can Brock play under center? Usually guys that tall are better in the shotgun/pistol. And I watched quite a bit of him last year and he was always in the pistol IIRC. I'm trying to formulate the looks and formations the Texans O will be giving us this year and how the playbook might change in general.

To me, physically...he looks like a cross between Big Ben and Mallet. He has the stature and arm of Mallet, but I thought he had the maneuverability and strength of Ben the times I saw him play. Granted, maybe not quite to Ben's degree, but he has that same skill set and physicality to shake off rushers and unlike Mallet he isn't a statue. He isn't a running QB by any means and I would definitely describe him as a pocket passer but he can move, shake, and dodge... and if necessary, scramble.

If he can add the intangibles on the mental side and pick up the pace in his mind, read defenses better than Mallet, with better than Mallet accuracy, I think we've got something special. I do feel like 2016 is his learning year. I don't think we will see his capabilities on full display until 2017 but I'm hoping we see some real potential.

Only time will tell as there are some significant IF'S in there.

I think BY FAR this was the best solution given the circumstances. It doesn't guarantee anything though. Sometimes you can make the best decision with a given set of facts, and still have a poor outcome. But I've got to give Kudo's to BOB, RS, and McNair for at least taking a big swing. I'd rather swing and miss then keep laying down bunts time after time. What has that gotten us?
 
DocBar said:
The guys on SriusXM are wondering WTF was Elway thinking with some of the moves he's made this offseason and the like the Os deal the Texans made.
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Seriously though, they don't try to Osweiler. They put a low tender on CJ Anderson. Heck even the Rams put a first round tender on Kenum. They could have at least put a 3rd rounder on him. Edit(The 3rd round tender was referring to CJ Anderson who looks like he is signing with Miami if they dont match the offer)
 
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Seriously though, they don't try to Osweiler. They put a low tender on CJ Anderson. Heck even the Rams put a first round tender on Kenum. They could have at least put a 3rd rounder on him.
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Im still not quite sure how this whole tender process works, can any FA be tendered?
 
Shishkabob said:
Im still not quite sure how this whole tender process works, can any FA be tendered?
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Only players with less than 4 accrued seasons.

There are 3 tender levels - 1st round, 2nd round and original round/minimum.

Players who have been tendered can negotiate offer sheets from other teams. The original team can then match and keep the player or decline and get compensated based on the tender level.
 
per 610 radio: press conference delayed but Texans tweeted "all contracts now signed" and McNairs now on deck
 
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