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Who else thinks the Texans are going to crash and burn in 2015

Big portion of your problem is not paying attention.

For example, you complement this guy for not liking Hoyer and act like that's some rare opinion around here. If you weren't screaming at the sun you'd know that's around half the MB conservatively estimated.

Same thing on Rick Smith. Tons of people dislike him. Again, yes or no vote on a new GM would be a winner for dumping him.

You're not in a select group on anything you say - just in how you say it.

That and right now people just want to be fans and enjoy the moment . Back to your point , if you put all your energy in trying to promote your own viewpoint , then you never learn others points of view . You may even call them sunshine pumpers .
 
Big portion of your problem is not paying attention.

For example, you complement this guy for not liking Hoyer and act like that's some rare opinion around here. If you weren't screaming at the sun you'd know that's around half the MB conservatively estimated.

Same thing on Rick Smith. Tons of people dislike him. Again, yes or no vote on a new GM would be a winner for dumping him.

You're not in a select group on anything you say - just in how you say it.
You like to argue to the sake of arguing and always want to have the last word. Worst moderator ever.
 
You asserted a change. The change we were coming from in 2011 was 2010 not 2002.

Fact is they owned us 2002-7: 2-10 with us winning both 2004 games. Since then 9-5.

According to your superior logic Portugal and Spain are still world powers because they held sway for centuries and us merely decades. Ancient history BS.



ROTFLMAO - only presented raw numbers as exactly what they were, raw numbers.

Any commentary, assumptions, etc. were pulled illogically by you from thin air.

Not surprising you didn't understand it. It was the anti-Texian post - all facts, no assertions.
Once again when he gets his head handed to him he resorts to bovarian manure and assumes the position of cranial rectum inversion. .423 invalidates all your claims. You can now go back to left field.
 
Ozzie hired Kubiak who you loathe, said had an outdated predictable offense (along with all the other "I can predict the play" f..people). Pick your poison dude - which were you wrong on?
Oooh good one! I can't WAIT to hear his comeback to this one. :popcorn:
 
Big portion of your problem is not paying attention.

For example, you complement this guy for not liking Hoyer and act like that's some rare opinion around here. If you weren't screaming at the sun you'd know that's around half the MB conservatively estimated.

Same thing on Rick Smith. Tons of people dislike him. Again, yes or no vote on a new GM would be a winner for dumping him.

You're not in a select group on anything you say - just in how you say it.

This is right on the money.

I see new seasons as a new start, new beginnings, wipe the slate clean.

While some of us wallow in the past and mired in a .423 closed box, others see the season as one of infinite possibilities.
 
This is right on the money.

I see new seasons as a new start, new beginnings, wipe the slate clean.

While some of us wallow in the past and mired in a .423 closed box, others see the season as one of infinite possibilities.

It may be a blind date but there's hope and we ain't involved in the circle jerk .
 
It may be a blind date but there's hope and we ain't involved in the circle jerk .

Here's hoping she looks like this:

texans-delaney1.jpg


And ready for some action!
 
You like to argue to the sake of arguing and always want to have the last word. Worst moderator ever.

Non-response.

Once again when he gets his head handed to him he resorts to bovarian manure and assumes the position of cranial rectum inversion. .423 invalidates all your claims. You can now go back to left field.

Run away, the .423 bunny.

And there's why you boys get treated like poo-flinging monkeys. No responses of substance, just poo-flinging.
 
Non-response.



Run away, the .423 bunny.

And there's why you boys get treated like poo-flinging monkeys. No responses of substance, just poo-flinging.

Texans"pillowfightsandkittenwhispers" obviously hasn't been paying attention to your opinion of Hoyer, lol
 
Tbo the middle of the road teams like the cheifs and Texans are so hard to predict on how there season will go they could either be the new elite and shoot for 12 wins or they can just be middle of the road and shoot for seven eight or 9 wins

Either way the goal for every team is,to shoot for 10 wins and IMO all the teams in the AFC are capable of getting 10 wins
 
The mentality you have is the same one McNair has. Not invest in the QB position and being content with mediocrity. That mentality and approach is a proven loser.

You don't know that is McNair's mentality. On one hand we'll bash him for spending too much money on Schaub. Then on the other we say he doesn't want to invest in the QB position. Maybe we just don't lile where he has decided to invest in the QB position.

Are you upset we didn't get Peyton? I can understand that, though I didn't want to take the chance at the time.

Are you upset we didn't draft Colin Kaepernick? Geno Smith? Bridgewater? Garopolo? All of the above?

I can understand that as well. But, what if we did draft them, or get Manning, then what? It's not like any of them have won a Super Bowl. Other than Manning & Cap, have even had a winning season. So what you say? They'd have done better here?

But our GM sucks. Kubiak sucks.

So there's no reason to believe we'd have done any better than any of them. As far as the Broncos & 9ers go... they didn't win. Might as well have tanked & got a high draft pick. Right?
 
Bortles, Garoppolo or Bridgewater are 3 QBs we could have had last year that would have made me happy. We could have gotten Garoppolo in the 2nd but for the XSF pick which is looking more like a bust every day.


Bortles could be a bust he didn't really bust out those wins his,rookie season he needs to lead the jags to a,playoff ticket or at least sniff it this,year IMO

I would rather have clowney then Blake tbo
 
Non-response.



Run away, the .423 bunny.

And there's why you boys get treated like poo-flinging monkeys. No responses of substance, just poo-flinging.

What you don't seem to understand is poo-flinging monkeys have a much better understanding of reality, history, basic fundamentals, general logic, deductive reasoning and get it right 100% more often than you. But don't let that stop you.
 
Come on Sunday

Between this thread and a handful of others it seems to me anyone with a negative outlook on the team/our chances has been outcast.

Funny to see that and then compare it to this board after a regular season loss. A lot of the people pissed to hear doubts will soon be calling for change after a loss.

It's almost as if people aren't capable of thinking hoyer sucks and STILL rooting for the team to win? I dunno, just seems petty. I say that believing we're a 9-7 team again. T minus18 hours.
 
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Between this thread and a handful of others it seems to me anyone with a negative outlook on the team/our chances has been outcast.

Funny to see that and then compare it to this board after a regular season loss. A lot of the people pissed to hear doubts will soon be calling for change after a loss.

It's almost as if people aren't capable of thinking hoyer sucks and STILL rooting for the team to win? I dunno, just seems petty. I say that believing we're a 9-7 team again. T minus18 hours.

That's because many people feel that to accomplish something , you have to believe you have a chance . That's the 1st step so screw it I'm buckled in and ready for the ride . Around Christmas or New Years we'll know our fate .
 
That's because many people feel that to accomplish something , you have to believe you have a chance . That's the 1st step so screw it I'm buckled in and ready for the ride . Around Christmas or New Years we'll know our fate .
You and I have no impact on the outcomes of the games. What you and I believe has no bearing at all.
 
Between this thread and a handful of others it seems to me anyone with a negative outlook on the team/our chances has been outcast.
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I haven't done a poll, but my feeling is most people feel we're not going to the play offs this year. Most of the responses I can remember in this thread thinks the OP is overly optimistic. O don't see how we will win 7 games was my first response.

The schedule is easy enough, & they're saying Foster may not miss more than three games. I just have no faith in Hoyer and O'Brien.
 
Between this thread and a handful of others it seems to me anyone with a negative outlook on the team/our chances has been outcast.

That's not it at all.

Take thunderkyss in the above reply to you.

He makes an intelligent response without beating his personal drum of .423 "Rick Smith sucks"

And at the same time you can see that there is hope however deep inside.

His post listens to the previous post but is able to make his thoughts known without alienating people.
 
That's not it at all.

Take thunderkyss in the above reply to you.

He makes an intelligent response without beating his personal drum of .423 "Rick Smith sucks"

And at the same time you can see that there is hope however deep inside.

His post listens to the previous post but is able to make his thoughts known without alienating people.

Maybe texansfight's initial post was worded in a way you didnt like?

He's not a fan of cuts, smith, recent drafts, our ol, our running game, and our qb. Based on everything I saw in preseason I have a lot of the same concerns. Maybe it's a matter of presentation? 7-9 at best is clearly an arguable position...but damn...the concerns look valid to me even if you don't like the messanger.
 
Maybe texansfight's initial post was worded in a way you didnt like?

He's not a fan of cuts, smith, recent drafts, our ol, our running game, and our qb. Based on everything I saw in preseason I have a lot of the same concerns. Maybe it's a matter of presentation? 7-9 at best is clearly an arguable position...but damn...the concerns look valid to me even if you don't like the messanger.

I have concerns too. I'm hoping they surprise me.

I think I have problems with people that can't have 2 way communication and fall back on the same rhetoric in every conversation.

I also will never give up before the games are played!

That's why I watch football, for the excitement and hope.

I love the fall!
 
Maybe texansfight's initial post was worded in a way you didnt like?

He's not a fan of cuts, smith, recent drafts, our ol, our running game, and our qb. Based on everything I saw in preseason I have a lot of the same concerns. Maybe it's a matter of presentation? 7-9 at best is clearly an arguable position...but damn...the concerns look valid to me even if you don't like the messanger.

The only thing I don't like, is like DBCooper said, is how they say it. They come in herewith their abrasive attitudes, yelling at us (practically) as if there's anything we can do about it.

We've got a dude here now, that's looking to get in a fight with all the Hoyer fans. But there ain't no Hoyer fans.

Just like there aren't any Rick Smith fans. However, if you tell one of them their argument doesn't hold water... all of a sudden, you're a Rick Smith fan.

& what really bakes my noodle, are the ones who tell me how stupid I am for buying season tickets. One, in particular, more or less blames me for all the Texans' woes, because I'm not willing to throw away my PSL.
 
I also will never give up before the games are played!

That's why I watch football, for the excitement and hope.

I love the fall!

We've got a punchers chance in every game except the Patriots. That's the only elite team on our schedule.

Doesn't mean we'll win them all, check, I can't imagine being favorites in more than a couple of them, but they all should be very entertaining.
 
Just sad so many here share the same concerns but are so divided based on delivery or personal reasons. Sometimes people want to argue i suppose.
 
I could share plenty of concerns with someone, but at the point where they finish their thought with a Jerry McGuire rallying cry for my team to suck I'm gonna feel rather differently.
 
Who cares about all this, we are mere hours from 2015 season kick off, and I have to work :(.

Uverse does not stream local channels online. Well thanks for nothing att you bunch of low life fun sucking football eaters.
 
This is a 7 win team at best. Our moronic roster cuts are the icing on the **** sandwich of a season we have in store for us. O'Brien's hubris in thinking he can turn the garbage that is Brian Hoyer into a competent, NFL QB will blow up in his face. The roster holes resulting from Dick Smith's horrific 2013 and 2014 drafts will be plain to see for even the blindest homers on this message board. We are going to have trouble scoring points with a bad OL, no running game and **** starting at QB. who else is with me?
 
This is a 7 win team at best. Our moronic roster cuts are the icing on the **** sandwich of a season we have in store for us. O'Brien's hubris in thinking he can turn the garbage that is Brian Hoyer into a competent, NFL QB will blow up in his face. The roster holes resulting from Dick Smith's horrific 2013 and 2014 drafts will be plain to see for even the blindest homers on this message board. We are going to have trouble scoring points with a bad OL, no running game and **** starting at QB. who else is with me?
Finally!!!....a fan that lives in reality (are we the only 2)..You ( & myself) are just being real & objective.....and every time a fan post some realities about the Texans, the Hoyer cry babies start whining & screaming "Your not a real fan!!!"......there are sensible adult "FANS" that live in reality and see things for what they are "this season"......and then there are "Fanatical Fans" that believe in fairy tales & unicorns and when a "sane" fan says anything that burst their fantasy world they whine & stomp their feet....Grow Up
 
Finally!!!....a fan that lives in reality (are we the only 2)..You ( & myself) are just being real & objective.....and every time a fan post some realities about the Texans, the Hoyer cry babies start whining & screaming "Your not a real fan!!!"......there are sensible adult "FANS" that live in reality and see things for what they are "this season"......and then there are "Fanatical Fans" that believe in fairy tales & unicorns and when a "sane" fan says anything that burst their fantasy world they whine & stomp their feet....Grow Up

Wrong I don't have Hoyer in my fantasy world I have Luck .

Here's your assignment . I want you to make a list of teams you think are better than the Texans or rank all 32 . For extra credit you can tell us how we can get a QB of your choice .
 
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Finally!!!....a fan that lives in reality (are we the only 2)..You ( & myself) are just being real & objective.....and every time a fan post some realities about the Texans, the Hoyer cry babies start whining & screaming "Your not a real fan!!!"......there are sensible adult "FANS" that live in reality and see things for what they are "this season"......and then there are "Fanatical Fans" that believe in fairy tales & unicorns and when a "sane" fan says anything that burst their fantasy world they whine & stomp their feet....Grow Up

You quoted that same post a few pages ago. Are you ok?
 
Got a twelve pack of bud light, bud select, and Not your father's root beer on ice for tomorrow. Watt jersey and clothes laid out like first day of school. Gonna hit the road from Leander at 4:30 am. Gonna be tailgating with 7 buddies from high school. Love season openers at NRG
 
Got a twelve pack of bud light, bud select, and Not your father's root beer on ice for tomorrow. Watt jersey and clothes laid out like first day of school. Gonna hit the road from Leander at 4:30 am. Gonna be tailgating with 7 buddies from high school. Love season openers at NRG

Wish I was there to join you!

But I get to watch in NYC!
 
Wrong I don't have Hoyer in my fantasy world I have Luck .

Here's your assignment . I want you to make a list of teams you think are better than the Texans or rank all 32 . For extra credit you can tell us how we can get a QB of your choice .
Well, your gonna need a whole LOT of that luck this season...Rank the teams that are better than Texans? That would require to much typing...Texans 9 & 7 this yr "best" case scenario....How we get the QB we want? We fire Rick Smith and draft one...like all the other playoff teams do ....duh...Could someone please explain how the draft works to Rick Smith.....but if your talking about this season right now...we already have a bigger, more talented, stronger arm quarterback than Hoyer will ever be...(just take the time to really review Hoyers career in the NFL and you'll understand)
 
I haven't seen anyone use the "real fan" card in a while.

I and at least a few others have said 7 wins at most.

I don't understand how you blame Rick Smith for not starting Mallett.
 
I haven't seen anyone use the "real fan" card in a while.

I and at least a few others have said 7 wins at most.

I don't understand how you blame Rick Smith for not starting Mallett.

People around here would blame Rick Smith for the sun going down at night.
 
I haven't seen anyone use the "real fan" card in a while.

I and at least a few others have said 7 wins at most.

I don't understand how you blame Rick Smith for not starting Mallett.
Re read my post....I blame Rick Smith for not drafting a QB with all the chances he's had in all the yrs he's been here....The starting QB pick is on Obrien
 
Re read my post....I blame Rick Smith for not drafting a QB with all the chances he's had in all the yrs he's been here....The starting QB pick is on Obrien

I think if you were inside the discussions you'd find who's brought in is on OB and how much they get paid is on Smith. Don't think Smith had the authority to force Bortles on OB (or pass in him if OB wanted him) for example.
 
I think if you were inside the discussions you'd find who's brought in is on OB and how much they get paid is on Smith. Don't think Smith had the authority to force Bortles on OB (or pass in him if OB wanted him) for example.
I think if you were inside the discussions you'd find who's brought in is on OB and how much they get paid is on Smith. Don't think Smith had the authority to force Bortles on OB (or pass in him if OB wanted him) for example.

Rick Smith is Obriens boss... He can draft whoever he wants to draft....Obrien ( nor any other coach) tells Rick Smith what to do....he has the authority to draft any player he believes will help the team....If your a manager where you work, do the people you manage tell you what to do or do you tell them what to do....I was self employed for over 30 yrs & I always ask my employees for their input and listened....but the decision was mine....and they had to accept it or go work somewhere else....that's how all businesses work
 
Well, your gonna need a whole LOT of that luck this season...Rank the teams that are better than Texans? That would require to much typing...Texans 9 & 7 this yr "best" case scenario....How we get the QB we want? We fire Rick Smith and draft one...like all the other playoff teams do ....duh...Could someone please explain how the draft works to Rick Smith.....but if your talking about this season right now...we already have a bigger, more talented, stronger arm quarterback than Hoyer will ever be...(just take the time to really review Hoyers career in the NFL and you'll understand)

Dude ... I have Andrew Luck as my starting QB in fantasy not a lot of Luck .
 
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