Or the McNair .281 to .488 to .563 and beyond plan. It certainly is what it is.
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Or the McNair .281 to .488 to .563 and beyond plan. It certainly is what it is.
Texian
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Oh wise one, no cherry picking or flawed thinking allowed. What is Fisher's record against the Texans? What is Texans record after Fisher? Your logic is often flawed, like in another thread you tried with no success to compare Ravens drafts to Texans draft. You ASSUME that Rick Smith and the Texans have the same eye and ability of evaluate talent and draft players better or as good as Ozzie Newsome. Wrong, nothing could be further from the truth.
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Or 3 #1 draft picks in 12 years....a recipe for .423
They've had 2 in 12 years. And along that way they've had a progression of betterment. One that I illustrated and you refuse to acknowledge because that would wipe out your entire pitty party.
Honestly though, you can have your misery monopoly. Seriously, it's all yours.
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Learning how to win as an organization is a process . I think the Steelers were formed in 1933 and made the playoffs in 1947 and not again until Chuck Noll took over in 1969 or 70 . You pay to learn and some learn a bit faster than others .
Nitrofish
Let The Big Fish Eat!
Then why have so many former Texans ended up a Raven?
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Texans"Fight" giving up the season before a down is played!
That's loser talk where I come from.
TexansFight
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The Browns are in a league of their own when it comes to expansion shittiness. They are New Orleans 'Aints paper sack wearing and Tampa Bay Bucs bad.
She needs a Texans logo somewhere on her body
TexansFight
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Give me break. I don't make any apologies for wanting a winner in Houston. The same goes for Texian and steelbtexan. I am going to be there this Sunday like I am every home game. I can root for my team hard and still be critical where it is warranted. As BO'B himself said. This team has NO RESPECT across the league because it hasn't done jack squat. I don't like having to call into Charlie Pallilo's show every week to rip on Rick Smith's ineptitude. I would much rather call and be optimistic like I am about the Rockets and Astros. Those teams are led by good GMs and we might get beat but it is not because we have an idiot like Rick running the show.
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I've got my pencil , give me something to write on .
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They should have auto drafted .
She's an open canvas
infantrycak
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You asserted a change. The change we were coming from in 2011 was 2010 not 2002.
Fact is they owned us 2002-7: 2-10 with us winning both 2004 games. Since then 9-5.
According to your superior logic Portugal and Spain are still world powers because they held sway for centuries and us merely decades. Ancient history BS.
ROTFLMAO - only presented raw numbers as exactly what they were, raw numbers.
Any commentary, assumptions, etc. were pulled illogically by you from thin air.
Not surprising you didn't understand it. It was the anti-Texian post - all facts, no assertions.
Amen Brother.....There are a lot of fans living in a pipe dream right now.....Hoyer!!! Seriously!!!.....Ask (or listen ) to any ex NFL QB working as a game analysts & he'll tell u that Brian Hoyer is a good solid journeyman (nice word for back up) QB....that's the history of his career....that's it....He's not a pro bowl QB....he's not going to be face of an NFL teams franchise...He's a great guy, works hard, can "manage" an offense pretty & he won't say something stupid that will embarrass your team during a press conference.....But that's it....You can't teach talent, size or arm strength which are "key" attributes of pro bowl QB's. Hoyer is of average talent, small size & average arm strength & this is not going to change no matter who coaches him... Fans that think Coach Obrien is some kind of Chris Angel & he can magically turn Hoyer into Drew Breeze is in for a big let down.
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Wow, I need to check that thread out for a good laugh. Anyone comparing Texans drafts to Ozzie's Ravens' drafts has a screw loose. That is typical infantrycak liking to argue for the sake of arguing. No one with a clue about football would seriously think that the Texans come close to the results of the best GM in all of football. The results speak for themselves. The Ravens are Super Bowl winners and consistently get deep in the playoffs. The Texans have done squat. One of the best things about football is the record speaks for itself. No one on this board would keep McNair and Rick over Bisciotti and Ozzie. No one.
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That's what y'all aren't getting . Nobody says Hoyers a savior but he is better than Fitz and the QB situation is better than last years . What was our record last year ? We have a pretty easy schedule this year so if there's a bet with the over/under at 8 wins , I'm taking the over .
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infantrycak
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And what some don't seem to get is the bold is pure hope because Hoyer hasn't performed as well as Fitz last year yet.
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The QB position in general is not why people are optimistic about the Texans .
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Having Hoyer play this year is giving me the same feeling when Cody Carlson started for the Oilers.
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I thought he made a good point. Hard to argue our reaults aren't at least similar.
I also don't find much value in the Texans overall.423 record. it is what it is We can go undefeated in 2015 & we'd still be below .500, 16-0 would say McNair did something right, but the overall record would say we're below .500
instead. we should look at a change over time. is McNair doing better or worse over time?
This is kinda interesting - a chart I worked up. It plots the cumulative win % of the Texans since inception. Note the trendline (or I suppose you could call it "the Bob McNair learning curve"). It goes up. I'm sure some will say it doesn't go up fast enough.
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TexansFight
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Post more. You are a welcome addition to this board and are a breath of fresh air like Texian and steelbtexan.
TexansFight
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The parity in the NFL is designed for teams to win 8 games. You make it seem like the Texans 9-7 record last year was some sort of accomplishment. It's not. It means nothing. The mentality you have is the same one McNair has. Not invest in the QB position and being content with mediocrity. That mentality and approach is a proven loser. The Texans .423 winning percentage is proof of that. McNair might be a great guy, but he is a terrible owner when it comes to football operations. We aren't going to do jack squat as long as he has a say in the football side of things. The wildcard is his son, Cal. I have no idea if he will be an improvement or an even bigger buffoon. Time will tell. I would love it if Les Alexander bought the team.
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So what QB would you want and how would you have picked him ?
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The pool should be filling up if there's a circle jerk going on .
TexansFight
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You have enough sunshine pumpers on this board to satisfy anyone. It's nice to have other realists willing to state their opinions despite the backlash that others like myself get from the sunshine pumpers.
TexansFight
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Bortles, Garoppolo or Bridgewater are 3 QBs we could have had last year that would have made me happy. We could have gotten Garoppolo in the 2nd but for the XSF pick which is looking more like a bust every day.
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We'll find out if that's a realistic view after we get a look at them in their second year . The Texans leave themselves wide open for ridicule when they pick a guy ( who some had as a 1st round pick and he can't get on the field ) 33rd and he's not starting .
Having said that 32 teams would have taken Clowney #1 overall and I think he'll prove to be the real deal if he stays healthy . Teddy only became popular after he played for the Vikings and Garoppolo hasn't done a thing yet and didn't look so hot in pre season .
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Sounds like you need a little sunshine!
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Great reference. Remember how everyone loved Commander Cody, especially in the last game of the 92 season against the Steelers at the Dome in which we won to go to the playoffs. We go into the 1994 season with Commander Cody and crash and burn. The same thing could happen to this team. At least we have a much better coach now than the aggy moron of a head coach we had with Pardee. Anyone want to question my Houston NFL fanhood? I have been following this **** for close to 30 years now.Having Hoyer play this year is giving me the same feeling when Cody Carlson started for the Oilers.
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Cody ran the run and shoot right ? That's night and day from what Bills trying to do and you can't compare the two . Bill is trying to be a poor mans NY Giants or Ravens .
Hervoyel
BUENO!
I volunteer to put it there but only if I get to choose where it goes.
I'd say you can't lose on that proposition!
infantrycak
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Big portion of your problem is not paying attention.
For example, you complement this guy for not liking Hoyer and act like that's some rare opinion around here. If you weren't screaming at the sun you'd know that's around half the MB conservatively estimated.
Same thing on Rick Smith. Tons of people dislike him. Again, yes or no vote on a new GM would be a winner for dumping him.
You're not in a select group on anything you say - just in how you say it.